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1249006417 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1249006422 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1249006948 M * jpic happy sysadmin day!!!
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1249027728 J * dna ~dna@55-197-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1249028546 M * elesouef Hi. I see several way to "clone" a vserver to another local one. What is the best practice in order to do this ?
1249029124 M * pmjdebruijn rsync should be fine
1249029130 M * pmjdebruijn elesouef: with clone... you mean move?
1249029148 M * elesouef pmjdebruijn: I mean duplicate.
1249029211 M * pmjdebruijn rsync should be fine
1249029211 M * pmjdebruijn rsync -a at least
1249029223 M * pmjdebruijn elesouef: you make you don't get IP conflicts etc
1249029236 M * pmjdebruijn and you stop probably stop the vserver, before syncing...
1249029253 M * elesouef pmjdebruijn: bt modifying /etc/vservers files, right ?
1249029280 M * pmjdebruijn yeah
1249029609 M * elesouef ok, thanks.
1249030028 M * pmjdebruijn elesouef: always do a test run first
1249030040 M * pmjdebruijn elesouef: don't do these things on production machine for the very first time
1249030061 M * elesouef :) of course.
1249030337 J * theocrite ~Robert@kim.theocrite.org
1249030798 M * elesouef I get some issues nowadays with vserver being unreachable and being "zombiefied" in vserver-stat.
1249030826 M * elesouef It seems to occur after the last debian lenny upgrade.
1249030856 M * elesouef the ctx is still in vserver-stat but the name of the vserver disappear. Any ideas ?
1249031006 M * theocrite I had the same thing two days ago : http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13226
1249031023 M * theocrite When I tried to halt the guest, it restarted the host -_-
1249031035 M * elesouef same issue here :)
1249031217 Q * otabbee Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
1249031680 M * elesouef another vserver just falled and I get this in syslog : "[ 5896.075074] vxW: [»ps«,4906:#182|182|182] did lookup hidden df070de0[#0,2] 
1249031685 M * elesouef »/dev/pts«."
1249032462 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1249032642 M * pmjdebruijn elesouef: are yo running the stock debian kernel with lenny?
1249032655 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1249032744 M * theocrite I have the same messages (not only when I have zombies), and I indeed use a Debian kernel
1249032825 M * theocrite But only since the 28th of July.
1249032839 M * elesouef pmjdebruijn: yes, debian kernel.
1249032900 M * pmjdebruijn I highly recommend you build your own... 2.6.27.28-vs2.3.0.36.6 for example
1249032942 M * pmjdebruijn oh sweet
1249032947 M * pmjdebruijn 2.6.27.29 has been released
1249033074 M * blathijs Running experimental releases on production systems is recommended?
1249033099 M * elesouef been a long time since I built a debian kernel. pmjdebruijn : you gat a good pointer for that ?
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1249033188 M * blathijs elesouef: Download sources, and run make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
1249033207 M * blathijs elesouef: (from the kernel-package package)
1249033220 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1249033225 M * blathijs You might want to patch in vserver as well, btw :-p
1249033258 M * elesouef blathijs: agreed :) Do I need to recompile util-vserver also ?
1249033413 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1249033418 M * Bertl morning folks!
1249033460 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1249033498 M * Bertl elesouef: yeah, the debian kernel is known to be broken .. better avoid it ... you also want to get/build a more recent util-vserver on recent kernels
1249033602 M * Bertl theocrite: same for you ... hopefully the debian kernel will get an update soon
1249033673 M * elesouef Bertl: being lazy, are there any debian repository available for util-vserver ?
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1249033744 M * Bertl elesouef: for sure .. just I have no idea about the quality of those packages (anyway google should find them)
1249033860 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: the 2.6.27.27 patch seems to apply just fine to 2.6.27.29 (except for the EXTRAVERSION obviously)
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1249034165 M * elesouef Bertl: are there any compatibility matrix for util-vserver and vserver kernel patch ? Or 0.30.216 will be sufficient for 2.2+ releases ?
1249034204 M * daniel_hozac recent util-vserver will work for basically any kernel.
1249034319 J * Kmos ~gothicx@kmos.user.oftc.net
1249034339 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1249034378 M * elesouef daniel_hozac: ok, great news, thanks.
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1249037507 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1249037512 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1249042163 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1249042171 M * Bertl back now ...
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1249043578 M * Bertl and off again .. bbl
1249043583 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1249044722 J * ManaPirat ~ManaPirat@stamper.dp-media.de
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1249044728 M * ManaPirat howdy :)
1249044783 M * ManaPirat Is there a way to add a "virtual" /sys sysfs to a linux-vserver guest? I cannot get rid of HAL and it wont start without a proper sysfs :-/
1249044828 M * ManaPirat I am using the debian lenny supplied vserver-kernel btw.
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1249046422 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1249046440 M * Bertl ManaPirat: there is no point in running hal in a guest (hardware is handled on the host)
1249046505 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1249046506 M * Bertl but if you really want to allow your guest to do hardware specific stuff, you can mount /sys into your guest (though I wouldn't advise to do so)
1249047223 M * Bertl and off again ...
1249047228 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1249047238 M * ManaPirat Bertl I would siable it if gome wouldnt depend on it :)
1249047262 M * ManaPirat *sigh* too late
1249047266 M * pmjdebruijn ManaPirat: why would you want to run GNOME in a vserver?
1249047287 M * ManaPirat because I want to use it as a NX Terminalserver as I did often in the past
1249047298 M * pmjdebruijn ah
1249047301 M * pmjdebruijn right
1249047315 M * ManaPirat IDK what they changed to gnome now .. but HAL seems to be an integral dependency
1249047367 M * ManaPirat I used to run the NX-Server with gentoo .. didnt had an issue there thankls to useflags .. but with lenny now ... trading flexibility for stability
1249047433 M * ManaPirat well., I'll go and nag the debian folk then :D
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1249047926 M * pmjdebruijn ManaPirat: does HAL have to be running? often it's just a case of satisfying the package dependancy
1249047974 M * ManaPirat well I get some error messages at gnome startup which si anoying :-/
1249047988 M * ManaPirat gnome/debian folks might know ... i'm on it :)
1249048096 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-5-175.iusacell.net
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1249048202 M * elesouef How can I stop a vserver that has "lost" its name in vserver-stat ?
1249048239 M * elesouef I still have the context id's.
1249048246 M * ManaPirat oh good question! .. I have this kind of error too sometimes
1249048284 M * elesouef ManaPirat: Bertl_oO suggested that the debian kernel is broken in lenny these days.
1249048356 M * ManaPirat I have those missing vserver names on a gentoo box 
1249048367 M * ManaPirat lemme check the version ..
1249048389 M * ManaPirat 2.6.22-vs2.2.0.6-gentoo #2 SMP
1249048420 M * elesouef ManaPirat: debian 2.6.26-2-vserver-686
1249048486 M * ManaPirat I am using 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 on the debian box but yet have to see problems
1249048502 M * theocrite elesouef: elesouef my quick and dirty hack : in two different terms : chcontext --ctx $ctx shutdown -f then in the host, shutdown -c to prevent the host to stop too :)
1249048521 M * elesouef theocrite: funny trick :)
1249048532 M * ManaPirat lol
1249049106 M * elesouef theocrite: damned... I wasn't that quick to stop the host's shutdown.
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1249049357 M * ManaPirat :D
1249049384 M * elesouef well, have to go. I will check this issue later.
1249049560 M * elesouef thanks for your help, btw.
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1249055863 M * geb hi
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1249062165 P * sutarja 
1249062486 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
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1249063669 M * gnarface someone should set up a quiz bot for this channel entirely populated by questions about linux-vserver configuration
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1249066201 M * gnarface ok so, if I have two guests and i want to give them each a private network address in addition to their public one
1249066209 Q * takeru Quit: takeru
1249066227 M * gnarface and i want to be able to put those two private addresses on the same subnet
1249066239 M * gnarface would i need to do that with iptables?
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1249067987 M * Bertl_oO iptables + s/dnat is a good choice
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1249070144 M * gnarface thanks
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