1247529929 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1247530049 Q * bzed_ Remote host closed the connection 1247530084 Q * bzed Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247530107 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1247530291 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1247530368 Q * bzed Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247530383 N * bzed_ bzed 1247530691 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247530691 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1247531006 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1247531477 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be 1247531541 J * scientes_ ~scientes@174-21-105-2.tukw.qwest.net 1247531571 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1247531983 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247532272 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667:: 1247534676 Q * mxs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247535332 J * Abraxas ~Abraxas@94-224-69-84.access.telenet.be 1247535927 J * mxs mxs@p4FCC9F6C.dip.t-dialin.net 1247536852 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180194010.adsl.alicedsl.de 1247537281 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247538243 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1247538248 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1247540423 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c135108.adsl.hansenet.de 1247540832 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247540843 N * saulus_ SauLus 1247543876 Q * uva_ Quit: Leaving 1247546820 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247547774 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.7.130 1247553007 Q * allquixotic Remote host closed the connection 1247553173 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1247554112 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1247554903 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247555822 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.CJB.Net 1247556516 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247557381 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-22-92.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1247558715 J * Swordsman ~kohii@pool-71-112-25-59.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net 1247559076 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247559721 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.83.205 1247560520 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.7.130 1247560611 M * Swordsman the wiki's archlinux install page seems to be somewhat outdated 1247560638 M * Swordsman http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_ArchLinux#Creating_an_Arch_Linux_VServer 1247560649 M * Swordsman the link to archbootstrap is dead 1247561397 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247561404 J * ktwilight ~keliew@61.186-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1247561980 M * kiorky_ Swordsman: it's archlinux which is pretty dead :D 1247561993 N * kiorky_ kiorky 1247562011 M * Swordsman ...? 1247562045 M * Swordsman I'm a bit new to linux, so... 1247562097 M * Swordsman well, I was looking for something to do some virtualization with, and I was looking for a small distro to use 1247562112 M * Swordsman something small, lightweight, and fast, archlinux seemed about right 1247562187 J * Medivh ck@dolphin.serverbox.de 1247562300 M * Swordsman is there a better alternative I could be using? 1247562433 J * uva bno@118-160-174-128.dynamic.hinet.net 1247563038 M * arachnist first, vserver isn't virtualization 1247563123 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247563475 M * Swordsman well, something similar. 1247563654 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1247563740 M * Swordsman though if that's the case, then the first sentence on the front page of the main page is pretty misleading 1247563961 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@62.85-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1247563988 M * Swordsman anyhow, I pretty much just wanted something that would isolate users on my server so they can't screw things up 1247564177 Q * mxs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247564366 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247564546 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@77.6-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1247564546 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247565092 J * Swords2 ~kohii@pool-71-112-25-59.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net 1247565170 M * ard Swordsman : virtualization is a state of mind. 1247565202 M * ard running multiple website from 1 apache and a single ip is already virtualization 1247565253 M * ard virtual machines are a kind of virtualization 1247565284 M * ard actually OOP is a state of mind. virtualization is just virtualizing ;-). 1247565516 Q * Swordsman Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247565742 M * puck Hey, I want to through the 2.3 vserver patch onto a Debian Lenny box. But keep it as close to stock as possible. Is patching against 2.6.26 okay? 1247566802 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1247566811 M * Bertl morning folks! 1247566889 M * Bertl Swords2: for your purpose the Linux-VServer virtualization/isolation sounds like a perfect match 1247566941 M * Bertl puck: 2.6.26 mainline and all Linux-VServer patches for that kernel can be considered broken, so if you want a working kernel, go for 2.6.27.x or 2.6.22.x 1247566959 M * Bertl (note that 2.6.26 is also unmaintained) 1247567135 M * fback Bertl: you're maintaining 2.3 series for 2.6.22.x? 1247567186 M * puck Bertl: damn, thought so. 1247567194 M * puck Okay, I'll jump to 2.6.27.x or beyond 1247567201 M * Bertl 2.6.22 is kind of maintained (i.e. it still gets bug fixes if there are reports) 1247567707 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1247568249 M * puck Bertl: Would you recommend 2.6.27.x for the 2.3 patch? 1247568291 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: no, 2.6.22.x was dropped a long time ago 1247568306 M * pmjdebruijn I think .19 was announced to be the last 1247568323 M * pmjdebruijn but it has been maintained longer than normal kernels 1247568417 M * Bertl I was talking about the Linux-VServer patch :) 1247568447 M * pmjdebruijn oh 1247568447 M * pmjdebruijn :s 1247568458 M * Bertl from mainline, 2.6.27.x is the one still being maintained :) 1247568501 M * pmjdebruijn I know 1247568522 M * pmjdebruijn I think 2.6.16.62 is still maintained as well, but it will be unmaintained very soon 1247568537 M * puck cool 1247568578 A * pmjdebruijn loves the -stable kernels 1247569595 M * Bertl puck: 2.6.27.x should be fine 1247570761 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247570907 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1247571628 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247571692 M * Bertl ard: can't reproduce the issue ... I'm running your test programin a loop here (on 2.6.30.1-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre3) and absolutely nothing unusual happens ... 1247571970 Q * kolorafa Quit: kolorafa will be back 1247572103 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1247572393 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1247572670 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1247572701 J * doener ~doener@i59F54B41.versanet.de 1247572806 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247572927 Q * Piet__ Remote host closed the connection 1247572993 J * Piet__ ~piet@659AAA4P5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1247572997 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.45.217 1247573759 N * Piet__ Piet 1247573799 M * Bertl ard: anyway, I fixed a few potential issues and reinstated the vroot stuff in pre4, please retest with this version and let me know if you still can recreate the issue on your setup 1247575026 J * docelic__ ~docelic@78.134.204.215 1247575113 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B5F93.dip.t-dialin.net 1247575421 Q * docelic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247576043 M * vasko Bertl: speaking of 2.6.30.1-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre3 problems -- i've give it a try on my workstation and kde4 silently failed to start, put me back to kdm. had no time to experimet so i've recompiled 2.6.30.1 with the same config but without vs patch and it works ok as before. Later that day did the same at home with the same result, nothing in dmesg,xorg log or ~/.xsession-errors 1247576871 M * Bertl okay, then please try the pre4 too, and let me know 1247576886 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1247578274 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1247578443 J * Piet ~piet@659AAA4TI.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1247579723 Q * fback Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247580441 M * FIChTe bertl 1247580458 M * FIChTe pre4 and debian 2.6.30-1 works so far 1247580810 M * FIChTe on amd64 :) 1247581165 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-68-94.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1247581165 J * dave0 ~dmo@home.dmo.ca 1247581201 M * geb hi 1247581270 M * dave0 Hello. Are there any known issues with the vserver support in the Debian lenny kernel? 1247581277 M * dave0 I'm seeing weird guest loopback behaviour 1247581314 J * fback ~fback@pc-nest01-254.sikornik.net 1247581575 M * dave0 anyway... a 127.x.y.1 is created for each vserver, but it doesn't get used 1247581644 M * geb what do you mean by doesn't get used ? 1247581663 M * geb there is some know issue, the kernel and the patch are a bit old 1247581697 M * geb for example you'll have problemes with cpu limits and with the barrier if you change kernel after creating some guests 1247581734 M * dave0 127.0.0.1 is being rewritten to the IP I've used in interfaces/0/ip 1247581746 M * dave0 which is not what I'd expect at all 1247581807 M * dave0 nflags are set appropriately, as far as I can tell: lback_remap,hide_netif,hide_lback,state_admin 1247581862 M * geb the loopback will work by default, try to remove those flags expecialy lback_remap and hide_lback 1247582147 M * daniel_hozac dave0: are those the only flags? 1247582159 M * daniel_hozac dave0: i.e. all which are returned from nattribute --get? 1247582173 M * dave0 ues 1247582175 M * dave0 yes 1247582193 M * Bertl dave0: if your kernel has AUTO_SINGLE_IP enabled, you want to disable it with ~single_ip 1247582223 M * Bertl dave0: also, yes, there are known issues with the debian kernels, specifically the 2.6.26.x ones 1247582266 M * dave0 Bertl: ~single_ip is in nflags for that vserver 1247582309 M * dave0 I'm rebuilding a 2.6.30.1 from upstream, with patch, but my last boot of it panicked in ext3 code... what's the most stable kernel to use with the devel patch? 1247582323 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, the cryptic save_ctxinfo issue was a missing /bin/env 1247582345 M * Bertl dave0: patch-2.6.30.1-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre4.diff 1247582363 M * dave0 oh, there's a pre4? Crap. 1247582365 M * Bertl dave0: 2.6.27.x and 2.6.29.x should be fine 1247582374 M * nox s.o from westcoast US online? 1247582698 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving. 1247582854 M * daniel_hozac nox: kinda early for that. 1247582871 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247582883 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1247582926 M * Bertl FIChTe: great! 1247582931 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1247582940 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1247582958 M * nox daniel_hozac: worth a try :) 1247584337 J * mxs mxs@p4FCCAA24.dip.t-dialin.net 1247584514 M * dave0 geb: removing lback_remap and hide_lback doesn't help (nor would I expect it to). 1247585459 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1247585679 N * ensc|w Guest1126 1247585686 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1247585697 Q * Guest1126 Read error: No route to host 1247585706 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1247585718 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1247585837 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1247586608 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1247586650 M * dave0 wow, that was... obscure 1247586680 M * dave0 I figured out why 127.0.0.1 wasn't being mapped to my 127.x.y.1 address: I didn't have an interfaces/0/prefix 1247586756 M * dave0 does anyone know why that happens? 1247587764 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1247587764 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1247587770 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1247587785 J * fback_ fback@red.fback.net 1247587879 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.83.205 1247587902 Q * fback Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247588344 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247588540 N * julius_ Wophon 1247588619 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.CJB.Net 1247590951 N * fback_ fback 1247591021 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1247591082 M * Bertl dave0: why what happens? why you didn't configure the prefix properly? 1247591145 M * dave0 Bertl: 'vserver build' didn't configure it for me, and I didn't bother adding it manually 1247591170 M * Bertl what util-vserver version do you have? 1247591174 M * dave0 so, without the prefix, 127.0.0.1 was always rewritten to my guest's interfaces/0 IP address 1247591200 M * dave0 0.30.216~r2772-6 from debian lenny 1247591212 M * Bertl and your build line was? 1247591225 M * dave0 ... lost to the sands of time :( 1247591228 J * gate_keeper_ ~gk@92.53.16.197 1247591278 M * dave0 anyway, the autogenerated lback address never gets used if there's no prefix on the 0 interface 1247591326 M * dave0 verified on 2.6.30.1 + vs2.3.0.36.14-pre4, and on whatever abomination Debian has patched into 2.6.26 1247591352 M * Bertl if the kernel gets assigned /0 then it is the proper behaviour, as this is the IP to be used for anyhting 1247591420 M * dave0 Maybe defaulting the prefix to 0 if unspecified is a bad idea? 1247591427 M * dave0 at least, it should generate a warning 1247591439 M * Bertl but IIRC, util-vserver complains about such a setup, but daniel_hozac should have the details 1247591455 M * Bertl (that's why the build line would have been interesting) 1247591515 M * Bertl i.e. either prefix or netmask need to be set, otherwise you get a warning 1247591691 M * dave0 http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13122 1247591713 M * dave0 so -m skeleton at least doesn't warn 1247591743 M * Bertl IIRC, the warning is on guest startup 1247591780 M * Bertl (but it might make sense to add a warning to the build part too) 1247592015 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1247592031 M * dave0 Bertl: yeah, I definitely didn't see any warnings at startup 1247592075 M * dave0 there was one at shutdown, though: Warning: Executing wildcard deletion to stay compatible with old scripts 1247592105 M * dave0 while trying to silence that one by setting a prefix I discovered that it fixed my 127.0.0.1 problem as well 1247592185 A * dave0 debootstraps another one to check for warnings 1247592280 M * Bertl okay, please file a bug report to util-vserver (feature request) that this should be warned on at build time (and startup) 1247592669 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1247592969 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1247593928 M * dave0 Bertl: the savannah bugtracker, or is there a better way? 1247594095 M * Bertl nah, savannah is fine 1247594171 M * dave0 meh... need to create a savannah account to file bugs there 1247595675 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.83.205 1247595839 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1247598253 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247598277 P * miguelzinho Leaving 1247598815 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1247599738 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1247600504 M * ard :-( 1247600522 M * ard EIP is at ext3_has_free_blocks+0x9/0x60 1247600535 M * Bertl with pre4? 1247600536 M * ard BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 0000ef5b 1247600536 M * ard trippeh: [] ext3_has_free_blocks+0x9/0x60 1247600541 M * ard nope, not yet :-) 1247600545 M * ard I will now try that 1247600549 M * Bertl please do so :) 1247600571 M * ard this is the 32bit system at home, so it takes a while :-( 1247600593 M * Bertl about 5min for compile, if you cleanup the config :) 1247600660 M * ard well, then I will probably not be able to use any of my usb devices ;-) 1247600668 M * ard compile is still done on a server 1247600680 M * ard but this system also needs fglrx :-( 1247600692 M * ard (my card is too old for open source drivers) 1247600762 M * ard kernel almost prepped for compilation... 1247600787 M * ard cachefs also doesn't work very well on 2.6.30.1 1247600795 M * ard with or without vserver ;-) 1247600860 M * dave0 Bertl: that's what I had with pre3 earlier today 1247600889 M * ard dave0: cachefs? 1247600908 M * dave0 ard: no, your ext3_has_free_blocks issue 1247600915 M * ard ah :-) 1247600916 M * dave0 pre4 is working fine so far 1247600965 M * ard I first assumed a problem with acls, but in the end it must have something to do with caching and late block allocation 1247601128 M * ard http://stats.kwaak.net/munin/dc0/algapi.dc0-vsmemory.html will change in 5 minutes to a stack of RSS 1247601361 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247601447 A * ard meant http://stats.kwaak.net/munin/dc0/blowfish.dc0-vsmemory.html 1247601692 M * Bertl yes, I fixed a bug in the balloc code (ext3) 1247601719 M * ard w0000t 1247601899 M * ard almost finished 1247601906 M * ard kernel is finished, now 3d drivers 1247602499 M * ard for now the bug is not reproducible 1247602500 M * ard w000t 1247602528 M * ard I assume that will also fix the 64 bit versions 1247602774 M * Bertl the kernel doesn't make much difference between 32 and 64bit nowadays 1247602797 M * ard well, the 64 bit said ENOSPC, and the 32 bit oopsed :-) 1247602828 M * ard although the 32bit was ext3 loop mounted on an ext4 fs 1247603410 M * ard < - if (!ext3_has_free_blocks(sbi)) { 1247603410 M * ard < + if (!ext3_has_free_blocks(sb)) { 1247603410 M * ard < *errp = -ENOSPC; 1247603418 M * ard I can understand that fixed it :-) 1247603689 M * ard but, eh, you fixed a bug in plain 2.6.30.1? 1247603862 M * Bertl nope, in the Linux-VServer patch 1247604012 M * ard ah... 1247604028 M * ard reading a diff -u of 2 patch files is a little bit hard... 1247604033 M * ard but I see it now :-) 1247604217 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1247604367 J * Kmos ~gothicx@kmos.user.oftc.net 1247604468 M * ard write(3, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3309\360\230\37\177\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1"..., 117) = 117 1247604470 M * ard it works :-) 1247604479 M * Bertl good :) 1247604716 M * ard on to the next thing 1247604721 M * ard will cachefs work :-) 1247604731 M * mnemoc Bertl: hi, if you find a minute, may you make a 2.3.0.36.6 patch for 2.6.27.26? :) it's only the first hunk of drivers/md/dm.c that fails from .25's patch 1247604771 M * ard (/me gained 2MB/s read speed from the local nfs server today. From 63MB/s to 65MB/s uncached...) 1247604921 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247605518 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1247605655 M * ard weird... /me created a 10G file on ext4 with dd, and it uses 0x1400008 blocks.... 8 more than necessary on an extent based filesystem 1247605997 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1247606150 M * ard ah.... cachefs works on ext3 but not on ext4 1247606558 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1247607322 M * Bertl mnemoc: the change in 2.6.27.26 to dm.c is bogus 1247607423 M * ard Bertl : it magically also fixed some weird blanking issues I had with fglrx ... 1247607543 A * ard only doesn't see any relation 1247607568 M * ard because I also had blanking problems with 2.6.28 1247607571 M * Bertl check the fglrx source code :) 1247607589 M * ard :-( 1247607624 M * ard too old, it's an r420, and there are open source drivers starting from r500 1247607634 M * Bertl maybe it shows some blanking problems when you do not have network access (i.e. the DDoS client cannot work properly :) 1247607635 N * dave0 dave0gone 1247607683 M * ard But then again, maybe this latest patch also cures my skinproblems! 1247607684 M * ard :-) 1247609701 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247609860 J * Piet ~piet@659AAA5IE.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1247610315 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247611340 Q * docelic__ Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1247611755 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1247611859 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1247611873 Q * thierryp 1247612358 Q * Kmos Quit: return unless user.signoff? 1247612494 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving. 1247612512 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1247614273 M * Bertl mnemoc: uploaded a patch for 2.6.27.26 (please test and report back on the dm stuff :) 1247614562 J * ousado ~johnny@p5B3C2E43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de