1246926506 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-70-17-238-89.balt.east.verizon.net 1246927076 Q * imcsk8 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246927467 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1246927690 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246928277 Q * snooze Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246928414 J * snooze ~o@1-1-4-40a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se 1246928451 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246928477 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1246931188 Q * imcsk8 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246931584 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1246931818 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1246934562 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246934606 J * arachnist arachnist@smierc.net 1246935316 Q * allquixotic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246935633 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c207184.adsl.hansenet.de 1246936042 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246936050 N * saulus_ SauLus 1246936808 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246937475 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.13.178 1246938906 J * ktwilight ~keliew@2.254-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1246938906 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246939931 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1246940182 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246940830 Q * ViRUS Quit: If there is Artificial Intelligence, then there's bound to be some artificial stupidity. (Thomas Edison) 1246940852 J * Genghis- ~Genghis@ph34r.my.d-n-s.org.uk 1246940922 J * mugwump_ ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1246940933 Q * mugwump resistance.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1246940933 Q * Genghis resistance.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1246942131 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.83.205 1246944207 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246944407 Q * julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246945431 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1246946594 Q * Kamping_Kaiser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246947209 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1246947241 J * Kamping_Kaiser kgoetz@203.209.167.143 1246947365 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.28.94 1246947377 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1246947763 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1246948956 Q * bernroth Remote host closed the connection 1246949606 J * urbi ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com 1246949611 M * urbi hmm 1246949620 M * urbi i keep making 32bit guests on 64bit host machine 1246949628 M * urbi vserver iztokz build -m debootstrap --context 1010 --hostname iztokz.si-shell.net --interface eth0:91.185.202.1/29 --rootdir /vservers -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386 1246949637 M * urbi i guess that --arch thing is for 32bit 1246949650 M * urbi how do i make a 64bit guest then? 1246949806 J * bernroth ~broth@62.245.254.80 1246950515 Q * bernroth Remote host closed the connection 1246950542 J * bernroth ~broth@62.245.254.80 1246951648 M * hijacker urbi, i presume --arch x86_64 ? 1246951737 J * vk5foss kgoetz@203.209.167.143 1246951801 J * dna ~dna@128-205-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1246951808 Q * Kamping_Kaiser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246952343 M * urbi E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-x86_64/Packages 1246952344 M * urbi nope 1246952405 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71 1246952850 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1246952871 A * hparker uses --arch amd64 1246953145 Q * ghislainocfs2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246953239 M * hijacker amd64 ? 1246953250 M * hijacker ups hparker suggested that already 1246953357 M * urbi hparker thx :p 1246953360 M * urbi hijacker u too 1246953360 M * urbi ;) 1246953754 M * harrydg_ http://harry.enzoverder.be/patch-2.6.29.6-vs2.3.0.36.14-grsec2.1.14-20090706.diff.gz 1246953758 M * harrydg_ can someone test it? 1246953765 M * harrydg_ (if you want off course ;)) 1246953767 M * harrydg_ tnx! 1246953950 M * ktwilight thanks harrydg_ :) just updating the page now 1246953990 M * ktwilight harrydg_, should i keep the other versions on the frontpage? or should i get rid of the others? 1246954288 J * Shuro ~jg2@81.89.253.146 1246954560 M * harrydg_ i'll do it tonight 1246954562 M * harrydg_ or you can do it 1246954563 M * Shuro Hello, i have a problem: i have a gentoo host system and build a debian vserver (vserver debian build -m debootstrap --context 74 --hostname debian.local --interface eth0:192.168.0.74/24 -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386) build has no problems, i tried to start the vserver but the /etc/default/rcS file is missed, i copied them from a other debian host, now "vserver debian start" say nothing wrong, but the vserver didnt start 1246954574 M * harrydg_ i just want some testings first... then i can be sure it works properly 1246954580 N * harrydg_ harry 1246954599 M * harry gotta run now... ids will sound an alert if i stay ;) 1246954605 M * urbi Shuro: which util-vserver ? 1246954665 M * Shuro urbi: version 0.30.215 1246954673 M * urbi Shuro: update it 1246954726 M * urbi Shuro: i think r3 is the newest in portage 1246954735 M * urbi Latest version available: 0.30.215-r3 1246954820 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1246954854 M * Shuro and that fix it or is it the "i dont know but it is a try" answer? 1246954920 M * urbi Shuro: its a fix :p 1246954971 M * urbi just emerge it 1246954992 M * Shuro after update, must i build the debian vserver new? 1246955030 M * urbi that i dont know 1246955033 M * urbi try without 1246955045 M * urbi but if u changed something already (rcS) 1246955051 M * urbi i'd build it again 1246955066 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1246955068 M * Shuro i didnt update it, iam not the sysadmin, iam only the sysadmin apprentice and on the host running important vserver 1246955107 M * urbi if you just created the vserver it doesnt matter if u re-create it 1246955113 M * urbi does it? 1246955128 M * urbi just emerge util-vserver and try starting the guest 1246955142 M * urbi if it doesnt work, rebuild it :P 1246955170 M * ktwilight harry, have done it :) 1246955237 M * harry tnx 1246955500 M * harry http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/patch-2.6.29.6-vs2.3.0.36.14-grsec2.1.14-20090706.diff.gz 1246955507 M * harry that links makes more sense, maybe ;) 1246955688 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@208.172-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1246955688 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246955739 M * ktwilight_ harry, it's there...under Experimental 1246955815 M * ktwilight_ i've also removed all other .29.x patches, and just keep .6 and .5 1246955835 A * ktwilight_ don't use grsecurity 1246955846 M * ktwilight_ but am wondering, will there be a patch for .27.x? 1246955862 M * ktwilight_ um, specifically .27.25 1246956129 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1246956172 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.37.112 1246957558 M * pmjdebruijn ktwilight_: there already is 1246957560 M * pmjdebruijn long time 1246957583 M * pmjdebruijn ktwilight_: just look in the experimental section (not the direct links) 1246957596 M * pmjdebruijn anyway 2.6.27.26 has already been released upstream :) 1246957620 M * arekm ... with broken md code 1246957670 M * ktwilight_ pmjdebruijn, for grsecurity? 1246958001 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@231.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1246958111 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1246958147 M * harry i don't do grsec for older kernels 1246958157 M * harry since it requires OR a backport , which is extremely hard 1246958172 M * harry OR old grsec... which might still contain some uncorrected bugs 1246958177 M * harry ==> not so safe/stable 1246958353 M * pmjdebruijn ktwilight_: oh no, I though you didn't use grsec... 1246958373 M * pmjdebruijn arekm: heh? did they break md between .27.25 -> .27.26? 1246958412 M * arekm pmjdebruijn: exactly, not sure if breakage is serious but part of 26 patch is mismerged 1246958417 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246959095 M * pmjdebruijn arekm: the -stable team is aware of that? 1246959201 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@100.75-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1246959243 M * ktwilight_ pmjdebruijn, nah, i don't use grsecurity, but though it'd be nice to update (keep an eye on) grsecurity too :) 1246959262 A * ktwilight_ is not happy with the disconnects :/ 1246959321 M * arekm pmjdebruijn: not sure if they saw it. It was mentioned in 2.6.27.26 announce thread on lkml 1246959336 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246959636 J * hotswap ~robin@chello080109182206.static.tirol.surfer.at 1246959700 M * hotswap Hi 1246959721 M * hotswap how can i tell the debian installer to use the ata_piix driver. 1246959737 M * hotswap because my raid is not beeing detected properly. 1246959750 M * pmjdebruijn hotswap: ask in #debian ? 1246959770 M * hotswap sry 1246959777 P * hotswap 1246959947 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-140-89.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net 1246960390 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-70-17-238-89.balt.east.verizon.net 1246961443 M * harry i still can't write a f*cking mail to the mailinglist 1246961457 M * harry i tried all my addresses... even the "delivered-to" header as "from" 1246961463 M * harry it still says i'm not subscribed 1246961479 M * harry can someone tell me what address i CAN write mails with, to the list? 1246961583 J * mxs mxs@p4FCCAE23.dip.t-dialin.net 1246961882 Q * mxs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246962024 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1246962061 M * Bertl_oO harry: any you subscribed with, I'd say ... 1246962180 M * harry you changed it once... to my "new" address since i changed jobs 1246962194 M * harry now it's on my personal address i assumed... but aparently it's not 1246962202 M * harry if need be, i'll resubscribe :) 1246962219 M * harry (anyway, gotta go, ssh triggers intrusion detection... :( ) 1246962224 M * harry and irc is impossible :( 1246962231 M * Bertl_oO probably the easiest ... I have no idea about the list manager, Hollow maintains it 1246962694 J * thierryp ~thierry@lns-bzn-47f-62-147-212-202.adsl.proxad.net 1246963053 M * urbi hi bernroth 1246963055 M * urbi Bertl_oO* 1246963056 M * urbi :P 1246963439 M * bernroth hi 1246965576 J * doener ~doener@i59F5A8D7.versanet.de 1246967243 Q * friendly Remote host closed the connection 1246968602 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246968727 J * arachnist arachnist@smierc.net 1246972311 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246972347 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1246972352 M * Bertl back now ... 1246972870 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1246972924 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.37.112 1246973155 Q * derjohn_mob 1246973445 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1246973483 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1246973514 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1246973525 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1246973543 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1246974352 M * Bertl kir: problems with the irc client? 1246974543 M * kir nope, I just did two X Window restarts (using C-A-Backspace) and forgot to turn off pidgin properly. sorry for the noise 1246974574 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246974710 M * Bertl np 1246975242 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.27.254 1246975746 Q * yang Remote host closed the connection 1246975780 J * esa bip@62.123.64.207 1246976127 Q * Abraxas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246976263 J * Abraxas ~Abraxas@94-224-69-84.access.telenet.be 1246977026 M * urbi Bertl: you know that issue with no services starting in guest vserver 1246977056 Q * pmenier Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246977086 M * urbi its here again, even though it worked 2 days ago and i havent changed a thingie 1246977128 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-8-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1246977167 M * Bertl what services are selected in the guest, and what log output do you get (in the guest)? 1246977237 M * urbi for that i need to, what, chroot inside guest? 1246977255 M * Bertl not necessarily, but that would be an option 1246977342 M * urbi Bertl: is it possible because i have an older version of debootstrap ? 1246977350 M * urbi Latest version available: 1.0.13 1246977350 M * urbi Latest version installed: 1.0.9 1246977372 M * Bertl did you create a new guest, or do you see that with an old guest? 1246977378 M * urbi a new one 1246977401 M * Bertl well, newer utils are adapted to recent debootstrap 1246977412 M * urbi i'll try emerging then and we'll see 1246977816 J * dowdle ~dowdle@97-121-201-35.blng.qwest.net 1246977836 M * urbi Bertl: now i get a differnet error 1246977839 M * urbi different :S 1246977870 M * urbi http://nopaste.com/p/amJxRUphcb 1246978083 M * urbi :/ 1246978258 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@91.178.153.85 1246978258 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246978272 M * Bertl that looks like older util-vserver 1246978298 M * Bertl I'd suggest to remove debootstrap from the host, and get a recent util-vserver version 1246978332 M * Bertl (recent means 0.30.216-pre2833 or later) 1246978450 M * urbi god damn gentoo portage 1246978486 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.83.205 1246978946 M * urbi Bertl: so i need to manually (again) install util-vserver 1246978957 M * urbi but why to remove debootstrap first? 1246979244 J * Val ~val@v41.org 1246979251 M * Val Hi 1246979294 M * Val got a namespace problem with 2.6.29.5-vs2.3.0.36.14 1246979433 M * Val vnamespace -e $CTX /usr/sbin/automount /var/lib/vservers/$GUEST/home file /etc/auto-$GUEST.home 1246979480 M * Val with /etc/auto-$GUEST.home containing one line "* -fstype=auto,rbind :///home/&" 1246979492 M * Val (i.e. automounting homes in guests) 1246979516 M * Val this worked fine 'till 2.6.28 vserver patch 1246979563 M * Val and a /etc/vservers/.defaults/namespace-cleanup-skip containing "/home" 1246979576 M * Val but now, nothing appens inside guests 1246979609 M * Val any idea ? 1246980056 M * Bertl what util-vserver version? 1246980127 M * Bertl urbi: well, I'd suggest to do so, util-vserver downloads the proper debootstrap, so it should work fine 1246980277 M * Val Hi Bertl :) 1246980280 M * Val Bertl: 0.30.216~r2772 1246980291 M * Bertl ah, get a newer one then :) 1246980297 M * Val :( 1246980299 M * Val well 1246980310 M * Val let's go :) 1246980341 M * Val hum, latest packaged ones for debian is 0.30.216~r2772 1246980357 M * Bertl yes, which is too old for a 2.6.29.x kernel 1246980363 M * Val ok 1246980432 M * Val Bertl: or else downgrade my kernel to 2.6.28 one ? 1246980447 M * Bertl 2.6.27.x should be fine 1246980506 M * Val ok 1246980512 M * Val thanks 1246980518 M * Bertl np 1246980704 M * Val new util-vserver tarball could not be found at http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/utils/util-vserver/ ? 1246980742 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/ 1246980782 M * Val bookmarked 1246980968 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@10.185-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1246981277 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246981316 M * allquixotic daniel_hozac: From some ML traffic it looks like you were involved in some efforts to integrate vserver into libvirt... this was exactly a year ago to the day; do you know if anything has happened with it since then? 1246981353 M * Bertl it seems the the libvirt folks didn't like Linux-VServer, and thus no feedback was ever seen 1246981449 M * allquixotic Wow. That's not a very good reason for letting someone else's contributions just drop on the floor. 1246981489 M * allquixotic I happen not to like the _only_ OS-level virtualization solution that libvirt does support, so I have to choose between libvirt and vserver. The choice isn't hard; I'll just grind through the CLI tools for vserver. 1246981563 M * Bertl well, you might join the irc channel and ask them why they never responded ... 1246981618 M * allquixotic I suppose :) User demand might help a bit, but if the developers are determined not to say they support vserver, then it won't get done either way, except for a fork of libvirt. 1246981629 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.dhcp.lbl.gov 1246981650 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1246981748 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1246982072 M * Val unable to package latest util-vserver tarball to debian : too more added patches from debian folks :( 1246982137 M * urbi Bertl: is util-vserver-0.30.216_pre2841 ok ? 1246982148 M * Bertl should be fine 1246982208 M * urbi Bertl 1246982209 M * urbi * QA Notice: Package has poor programming practices which may compile 1246982209 M * urbi * fine but exhibit random runtime failures. 1246982209 M * urbi * src/vcontext.c:301: warning: implicit declaration of function 'pivot_root' 1246982257 M * urbi should i be worried? 1246982262 M * urbi the package was masked in portage 1246982311 M * Bertl well, recent headers (i.e. headers which match kernels younger than a few years) should define pivot_root() 1246982376 M * Bertl http://linux.die.net/man/2/pivot_root 1246982393 M * Bertl but you might ask daniel_hozac about the details and implications 1246982436 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1246982457 M * Bertl also make sure that you are using dietlibc for building (otherwise you have been warned :) 1246982468 J * julius ~julius@217.20.127.15 1246982953 Q * allquixotic resistance.oftc.net osmotic.oftc.net 1246982953 Q * mugwump_ resistance.oftc.net osmotic.oftc.net 1246982953 Q * nkukard resistance.oftc.net osmotic.oftc.net 1246982953 Q * nenolod resistance.oftc.net osmotic.oftc.net 1246982966 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1246982977 M * urbi dietlibc ? 1246982983 M * urbi well guest vserver started now :p 1246983049 M * urbi how do i know i'm using dietlibc: ) 1246983082 M * Bertl vserver-info - SYSINFO 1246983086 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-70-17-238-89.balt.east.verizon.net 1246983086 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1246983086 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1246983091 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1246983155 M * urbi http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13093 1246983204 M * Bertl looks good :) 1246983211 M * urbi thank god:P 1246983533 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1246983598 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F5AC52.versanet.de 1246983700 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246984102 M * Val well, seems that following edge linux-vserver or keeping full stable linux-vserver support in Debian is a pitty 1246984112 M * Val 2.6.26 is a shit 1246984126 M * Val 2.6.27 no more exists 1246984129 M * Bertl the debian folks seem to think differently :) 1246984147 M * Val and the next ones need new packaged version of util-vserver :( 1246984181 M * Val it is really anoying 1246984240 M * urbi switch to gentoo 1246984243 M * urbi it still sucks 1246984248 M * urbi but sucks less :P 1246984260 M * Val i'll feel like home ;) 1246984297 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1246984360 M * Val i follow edge stuff from the project 'till 2001, it's the first time i have no way to get a full working kernel/util-vserver using packaging (even if my own ones) on production 1246984396 M * Val and no way to fall back to tarball install 1246984446 M * Bertl well, with the 2.6.26 kernel from debian, you are already using a broken kernel 1246984477 M * Val yes, but now i have to migrate all etch hosts to lenny ones 1246984477 M * Bertl (and you might be extra careful when you upgrade, as all filesystem attributes are propably messed up) 1246984493 M * Val yes, i saw xattr problems 1246984496 M * urbi Val: lenny is debian 4.x ? 1246984511 M * Val urbi: yup 1246984518 M * urbi Val: whats debian 5.x called then? 1246984524 M * Val lenny 1246984530 M * urbi hehe 1246984538 M * urbi so how do u know the difference then :P 1246984595 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1246984652 M * Val three month i work to get all my scripts working with lenny : first it was cpu sched missing, i decided to build up-to-date kernels then it was a namespace problem for mounting bind mounts... Now i cannot provide latest util-vserver tools for my latest up-to-date kernel 1246984668 M * Val ... a nightmare 1246984871 M * Bertl ... a 'debian' nightmare ... 1246985801 M * julius Bertl: what's the distribution of your choice? 1246985844 M * Bertl basically a revamped mandriva version 1246985877 M * julius ok - that's unexpected^^ 1246985892 N * pmenier pmenier_off 1246986802 M * cehteh :) 1246986870 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1246987459 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1246987725 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1246988325 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1246989689 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1246989974 J * Floops[w]2 ~baihu@205.214.201.176 1246990348 Q * Floops[w]1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1246993064 M * urbi mandriva? 1246993069 M * urbi thats ex mandrake? 1246993092 M * Bertl yep 1246993290 M * urbi hihi 1246993298 M * urbi i totaly forgot about that distro 1246993515 M * urbi wasnt it more popular like 9 years ago then now? 1246993522 M * urbi or am i wrong 1246993555 M * Bertl probably .. I never go for popular :) 1246993587 M * urbi i mean 1246993595 M * urbi i heard alot about mandrake a few years back 1246993606 M * urbi i havent heard anything in years :) 1246993625 M * Bertl well, we hear a lot here about debian :) 1246993692 M * urbi is mandriva supported for guest vservers? 1246993710 M * Bertl almost all distros are supported for guests 1246993731 M * urbi what about as a host:P? 1246993731 M * Bertl but there is no specific build method for mandriva guests (if that is what you mean) 1246993740 M * urbi since a developer is using it ;) 1246993770 M * Bertl well, it works fine here, although the .spec daniel_hozac provides has some issues on recent mandriva 1246993894 M * daniel_hozac even the most recent one? it works fine in the tarball you sent me. 1246993916 M * urbi fight, fight, fight! 1246993917 M * urbi ;) 1246993943 M * urbi how can u send broken packages!! :P 1246993950 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, a new one? didn't know you changed something ... 1246993971 A * Bertl goes and tests immediately ... 1246994050 J * Kmos ~gothicx@kmos.user.oftc.net 1246994439 M * Bertl of course, I was completely wrong, and the latest version builds perfectly fine from the tar (not even minor adjustments are required :)! 1246994445 M * Bertl thanks daniel_hozac! 1246994480 M * urbi good job daniel_hozac! 1246994482 M * urbi :> 1246994494 M * urbi now u can hang out with the rest of us again 1246995440 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1246997451 Q * ghislainocfs21 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1246998934 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247000517 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1247001864 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1247002239 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1247003896 Q * Abraxas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247004447 J * Abraxas ~Abraxas@94-224-69-84.access.telenet.be 1247004662 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247004776 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1247006446 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be 1247006545 M * allquixotic Does vserver use unification for `vserver build -m clone' or does it do a recursive copy? 1247006564 M * daniel_hozac unified files will be hardlinked, everything else will be copied. 1247006570 M * allquixotic Thanks :) 1247006733 Q * Kmos Quit: return unless user.signoff? 1247008067 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1247008914 M * urbi gn 1247008940 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1247009293 M * allquixotic The FAQ mentions an "ngnet" which is supposedly a better isolation of network interfaces... does anyone know if this is in any sort of workable state yet? Networking is one thing that I need to be just as isolated as it is with bridged networking on VirtualBox; i.e. the host can bind to 0.0.0.0:X as much as it likes, but the guest still gets its own unique public IP that isn't routable in the host at all. 1247009348 M * Bertl well, we prefer 'isolation' above 'virtual networking', but YMMV 1247009379 M * Bertl you should be able to get the heavy 'virtual' networking with network namespaces 1247009434 M * allquixotic Bertl: I'll research network namespaces, thanks :)