1246754271 M * Bertl off to bed now ... cya!
1246754277 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1246778290 M * mxs_ a vserver with ~RAW_ICMP in ccapabilities should not be able to use ping, correct ?
1246778433 M * mxs_ (since for some reason, ping works just fine in my vservers, even without raw_icmp (as checked with vattribute))
1246778801 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-140-89.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
1246780091 M * arachnist mxs_: you either have a special version of ping, or cap_net_raw
1246780092 Q * friendly Remote host closed the connection
1246780606 Q * LuckyLuke Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1246780679 J * geb ~geb@212.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net
1246780844 M * mxs_ ping as delivered with debian lenny, and default vserver build settings
1246780863 M * mxs_ (which according to wikidocs do not include any netcaps -- of course vattribute does not list netcaps ;)
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1246783117 J * dna ~dna@128-205-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1246783265 M * mxs_ does per-context quota-hash still exist in any form ?
1246783280 M * mxs_ (and is there any documentation on vroot, vrsetup, cqtools, etc. ?)
1246784326 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1246784334 M * Bertl morning folks!
1246784396 M * mxs_ g'morning
1246784428 M * Bertl mxs_: there are two ping versions, one which creates their own packets via raw sockets, and one which uses icmp sockets, the latter one is permitted by default
1246784460 M * mxs_ ah ok, thanks, probably that one is being used by deb then :)
1246784497 M * Bertl the per-context quota hash was dropped some (longer) time ago, because demand was _very_ low and the changes to the quota system quite intrusive and maintainance intensive
1246784514 M * Supaplex sup Bertl.
1246784533 M * Bertl mxs_: vroot is still something you want to use for proxying quota ioctls though
1246784541 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1246784562 M * Bertl Supaplex: Sunday, morning ... I'm slowly waking up :)
1246784564 M * mxs_ alright, I'll stop looking for that then. http://linux-vserver.org/Feature_Matrix is wrong in that case.
1246784586 M * Supaplex Bertl: nice. take it easy.
1246784609 M * mxs_ Bertl: yeah, with vroot I can get "one" quota-domain, i.e. one vserver per filesystem can get quotas
1246784620 M * Supaplex do we have a general mailing list? I think I'll post later after I collect my thoughts on vserver-stat regarding memory reporting etc.
1246784675 M * Bertl mxs_: some filesystems support 'project' quota, which is quite similar to the per-context quota .. you might want to use one of those
1246784731 M * Bertl Supaplex: yep, we have one, and it should be under 'Communicate' on the wiki
1246784764 M * mxs_ Bertl: xfs and the like (and probably zfs, were I not on linux); right now I'm targeting ext4 (or ext*) since I'm pretty sure of its characteristics :)
1246784785 M * Bertl mxs_: but with 2.6.30 finally moving quota to the vfs, it might become easier to do something like the quota hashes again
1246784794 M * mxs_ it would just have been a "nice to have", at the moment I only require quotas in one context anyway
1246784815 M * Bertl as most others do .. (that's why we dropped it :)
1246784816 M * mxs_ yeah, but I am not holding my breath -- as you said yourself, sponsorship of vserver is .. well .. lacking ;)
1246784852 M * mxs_ yeah, I had a glimmer of hope it would work since there are no "this won't work" notices on the feature matrix or such ;)
1246784877 M * Bertl it worked quite fine in vs2.3 up to the point where we dropped it
1246784938 M * mxs_ while I'm sometimes masochistic, never enough to maintain a sufficiently outdated kernel :)
1246784984 M * mxs_ especially with kerneldevs being positively braindead and no longer marking security-relevant patchsets in any way, shape or form
1246785140 M * Bertl yeah, but if you feel like, you could port the feature to a recent kernel :)
1246785320 M * mxs_ I could also completely overhaul the wiki, document all flags and caps in the linked-to source files the "flower" page, figure out whether that grsec refcount bug is actually a bug in grsec or a refcount bug in vserver, 
1246785330 M * mxs_ or add the kitchen sink functioniality to vserver
1246785339 M * mxs_ err functionality
1246785358 M * mxs_ if only time were malleable like wishes are :)
1246785448 M * Bertl the first part sounds good to me, but we definitely do not need the kitchen sink :)
1246785488 M * mxs_ well, just embed emacs into the util-vserver binaries and that takes care of itself :>
1246785641 M * mxs_ but there is an ever-growing list of things I really ought to do, but probably will never get to. I'd really like for there to be a PKCS15-emulation layer for Aladdin's eTokens as configured by Aladdin RTE in OpenSC, too !
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1246794167 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
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1246819546 J * geb ~geb@212.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net
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1246823318 Q * Estiercol autokilled: This host violated network policy. If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net, thanks. (2009-07-05 19:48:38)
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1246832803 M * Bertl anybody tested the 2.6.30 pre yet?
1246833310 M * _are_ I just compiled it
1246833327 M * _are_ but unfortunately they have some bug in aacraid and it won't boot
1246833391 M * _are_ I got errors in reiserfs and ocfs2 about wrong numbers of argument, no idea if that was vserver-related or not. I don't need those tdrivers so I just disabled them
1246833850 M * Bertl yep, reiser and ocfs2 are not complete yet (in the Linux-VServer port)
1246833887 M * Bertl okay, thanks for the feedback ... off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1246833897 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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