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1246323717 J * peace ~sk@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1246323727 M * peace Hello everyone
1246323882 M * peace I have a problem of java in a guest than try to allocate too big heap size and fail to do so. I am not sure why it failed as the memory limit is not set (vlimit show it is unlimited) and the box still has plenty of RAM; is it a bug or expected behaviour of vservers?
1246323922 M * peace Try vlimit -c CID --rss 250000 -S then it works by the way
1246324051 M * peace It is debian lenny vserver 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 if it helps
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1246347322 J * magus ~chatzilla@195.160.234.10
1246347427 J * urbi ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1246347428 M * urbi hoi
1246347429 M * urbi =)
1246347432 M * magus Hi, I was wondering when(or if) a patched yum rpm will be avaliable for CentOs 5.3?
1246347483 M * urbi i'm trying to rsync some vserver to another machine, but my load gets up to 30 even when checking file list - what options should i use, currently i use "-aPxvzc" and i have slow hard drives but fast connection.. 
1246347496 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr
1246347678 M * magus urbi, rsync will generate a high load on the disks, no option would help you out...you can try to sync individual folders or use scp
1246348148 M * LuckyLuke but as far as I know rsync shouldn't ever generate a load so high, it's also a single running process.
1246348165 M * LuckyLuke so you should get 1 load unit for the server and 1 for the client
1246348358 M * magus rsync will generate not only a complete file list but also will try to compare the files between the host and destination, thus generating a lot of io...if one has slow hard drives load average will rise significantly
1246348891 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1246349422 M * LuckyLuke in and of itself will rise it just by 1 (see the definition of load average), of course it'll raise more if you have _other_ processes waiting for disk while rsync is using it up. A side effect of this is that how much the load increases will depend only on what other things your system is doing and not on rsync directly.
1246349462 M * LuckyLuke anyway things to look at: run rsync as nice (won't do much), change I/O scheduler (could do), tune I/O scheduler (some of them should probably be able to manage a per process I/O 'nice level')
1246349488 M * LuckyLuke see also ionice(1) man page
1246349527 M * LuckyLuke (oh, well, you could also get faster / more disks :)
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1246349910 M * ard urbi & magus : you can also limit bandwidth. That also works on local copies
1246349939 M * ard --bwlimit=KBPS          limit I/O bandwidth; KBytes per second
1246349967 M * magus Regarding slow disks: urbi are you using a Dell PowerEdge 1800 or smth similar with raid5 array?
1246349984 M * ard you mean <shiver> "hardware" raid :-)
1246350055 M * magus yes...that particular unit could only manage ~2mb/s without issues
1246350087 M * ard well, most of the megaraid/(==dell perc stuff) is really bad
1246350170 M * ard Usually applications have to wait on disk, so why not use software raid. At least then you get limited by the disks, and not the raidcontroller
1246350182 M * ard and don't let me start on the bugs :-(
1246350237 M * ard "hardware" raid is only good for less stable operating systems, like those from microsoft.
1246350285 M * ard magus : we are a dell toko (since va-linux ceased to exist)
1246350328 M * ard we even had lengthy discussion with them about our persistence to only accept dell's without their hardware raid controller ;-)
1246350508 M * magus We got a bunch of 1800's and some 1850 units really cheap...the 1850's worked great(even with hardware raid 1), but the 1800 units were horrible...
1246350594 M * magus ... in the end we configured every disk in the 1800 as a separate jbob array and used mdraid to glues them into a raid5 array.
1246350611 M * magus *glue
1246350630 M * ard Heh, we got 1[56789]50 ;-)
1246350661 J * esa bip@62.123.12.217
1246350683 M * ard And a pile of 100 unused 1U old hardware :-(
1246350764 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1246350919 Q * nkukard synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1246350947 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1246350972 M * magus I'm glad we got rid of our old junk  last summer...I still had some <blushing> Athlon XP machines 
1246350983 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
1246350998 J * weasel ~weasel@anguilla.debian.or.at
1246351165 M * magus Guys, does somebody have precompiled patched yum rpm's for CentOS 5.3?
1246351371 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1246352410 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-140-89.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
1246352554 P * peace 
1246353455 J * weaselTM_ ~weasel@anguilla.debian.or.at
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1246355739 J * Hunger ~Hunger@Hunger.hu
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1246359835 M * kolorafa i am now recompiling cernel and i read "Paravirtualized guest support  --->" and i thinking what is it? :D
1246360066 M * pmjdebruijn it's not vserver related
1246360073 M * pmjdebruijn it's like VMware VMI extensions (for guests)
1246360084 M * pmjdebruijn and similar stuff with KVM/Xen guests
1246360092 M * pmjdebruijn kolorafa: you don't need this for VServer
1246360168 M * kolorafa yes i know, but i was curies(is that the word?) .. :) and i am thinking to boot um on one guest a vmware guest
1246360199 M * pmjdebruijn then you could use VMI 
1246360206 M * pmjdebruijn but we've had some issues with VMI... and 2.6.27
1246360221 M * pmjdebruijn so I'd recommend against it, unless you do your own thorough testing
1246360225 M * kolorafa i am trying v2.6.28.7 xD
1246360237 M * pmjdebruijn not sure 2.6.28 is any better
1246360286 M * kolorafa i was thinking about 2.6.27.15 with grsecurity or 2.6.27.25 without
1246360287 M * _Shiva__ kolorafa: that option is to be set when the Kernel runs under a hypervisor (i.e. that Machine is a VM itself) - you don't need it to be a host that is running guests
1246360317 M * kolorafa thx shiva 
1246360437 M * kolorafa Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  E5335  @ 2.00GHz > someting is better if i check Processor family to  Core 2/newer Xeon ?
1246360469 M * kolorafa sorry for that asking :)
1246360561 M * _Shiva__ "Select this for Intel Core 2 and newer Core 2 Xeons (Xeon 51xx and 53xx) CPUs. You can distinguish newer from older Xeons by the CPU family in /proc/cpuinfo. Newer ones have 6 and older ones 15 (not a typo)"
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1246360728 M * pmjdebruijn kolorafa: I'd go with 2.6.27.25 :)
1246360749 M * _Shiva__ . o 0 ( my idea for a GSoC project still is writing a "probeconfig" target for the kernel Makefile - i.e. that you boot a generic Kernel that is able to detect any hardware and will populate your .config with optimal values for the machine you build it on ... ) ;-)))
1246360760 M * pmjdebruijn kolorafa: newer!
1246360809 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1246360881 M * kolorafa ehm... what? xD
1246360919 M * pmjdebruijn it's a newer type Xeon...
1246360928 M * pmjdebruijn we have lots of those as well :)
1246360976 M * kolorafa aa... thx :D i didn't think about what you was saying xD
1246361345 M * kolorafa agr... grsecurity (somehow) tempt me, but i dont know how it looks with vservers :) is it worth?
1246361487 M * pmjdebruijn no clue, we don't resel vserver directly to clients
1246361505 M * pmjdebruijn we resell services in those vservers, so vserver is a management tool for us... not a product by itself...
1246361513 M * pmjdebruijn it might be worth it, if clients have direct acecss
1246361526 M * kolorafa me to, but i think to allow www klients to access to ssh
1246361582 A * pmjdebruijn would never do that... 
1246361634 M * kolorafa very cut of ssh so it could be calld 'putty ftp accss' xD
1246361656 M * pmjdebruijn please don't use different colors text
1246361700 M * kolorafa sorry, i must acidently klick (i use shortcuts for winamp next mp3)
1246361837 A * kolorafa thx for your time and advise
1246363210 M * kolorafa [root@pnet214 linux-2.6.27.25-vs2.3.0.36.6]# make
1246363210 M * kolorafa   CHK     include/linux/compile.h
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1246363212 M * kolorafa O_o
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1246370615 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
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1246386783 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
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1246387310 J * mib_eal08nyd c1325ffb@webchat.mibbit.com
1246387433 M * Bertl welcome mib_eal08nyd!
1246387695 M * mib_eal08nyd makemake
1246387719 M * mib_eal08nyd thank you but my nick is actually makemake
1246387744 M * Bertl well, then you didn't manage to set it correctly :)
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1246387809 M * mib_eal08nyd i joind this wiki chat stuff 
1246387853 M * mib_eal08nyd make it short like "eal" or "nyd"
1246387900 M * Bertl k, so what's the problem/reason mib_eal08nyd/makemake? :)
1246388008 M * mib_eal08nyd no prob, i need to set it correctly ,does wiki stands for wikipedia ?
1246388037 M * Bertl no, but wikipedia is derived from wiki
1246388115 M * mib_eal08nyd what kind of knoledge is on the wiki?
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1246388141 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-144-90.adsl.restena.lu
1246388149 M * Bertl really depends on the specific wiki .. like on a specific book
1246388233 M * mib_eal08nyd if a wiki can be specific ,do you have a speciality?
1246388287 M * Bertl 'our' wiki is about Linux-VServer, a project to do OS Level Isolation (kind of virtualization which is extremely performant and easy to use)
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1246388954 M * mib_eal08nyd Is your type of virtualization better ? like whats the difference...
1246388990 M * mib_eal08nyd you mean network isolation? 
1246389038 M * Bertl 'better' is always related to 'something' and really depends on the problem at hand ... to run e.g. BSD on Linux, our 'virtualization' is simply the wrong choice :)
1246389125 M * Bertl but if you want to run several linux distros side by side on your machine, Linux-VServer is what you want
1246389363 M * mib_eal08nyd great 
1246389444 M * mib_eal08nyd i'm a student 
1246389748 P * mib_eal08nyd 
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1246394192 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
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1246403650 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1246403656 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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