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1244513231 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1244513235 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1244530762 M * pmjdebruijn hmmm
1244530771 M * pmjdebruijn we just had something odd with 2.6.27.24-vs2.3.0.36.6
1244530978 M * pmjdebruijn http://pastebin.com/m4667237f
1244530986 M * pmjdebruijn the vserver seems stopped
1244530991 M * pmjdebruijn but isn't completely stopped
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1244531317 N * yang-away yang
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1244533930 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-105-109.customers.d1-online.com
1244534115 M * pmjdebruijn huh, I can't unmount the volumes :s
1244534174 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1244534178 M * Bertl morning folks!
1244534244 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: the guest is simply running, but somehow, your links in /var/run/vserver* got lost
1244534301 M * pmjdebruijn uh, can unmount I mean
1244534317 M * pmjdebruijn I had no issues unmounting the volumes
1244534323 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1244534331 M * pmjdebruijn that should be possible as the guest is running right?
1244534350 M * Bertl on the host?
1244534812 M * Bertl it is expected that you can 'unmount' filesystems the guest uses _on the host_
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1244535129 M * pmjdebruijn oh
1244535130 M * pmjdebruijn :s
1244535158 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: should I get a 'filesystem is busy' error?
1244535175 M * pmjdebruijn since it's the guests rootfs?
1244535250 M * Bertl it isn't busy on the host, and it is still mounted in the guest's namespace
1244535260 M * pmjdebruijn huh?
1244535265 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1244535491 M * pmjdebruijn even then it's weird the /var/run/vserver files vanished...
1244535605 M * Bertl well, they probably didn't vanish, they got removed by some script or person
1244535885 M * pmjdebruijn hmmm
1244535904 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1244536681 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
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1244538251 J * BWare ~itsme@ip-80-113-1-198.ip.prioritytelecom.net
1244538253 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1244538271 M * BWare Morning
1244538292 M * BenG good morning sir
1244538317 M * BenG hmmm, should say or madam, as there's no way of telling on IRC
1244538322 M * BenG apologies for the assumption
1244538334 M * BWare nah... you assumed correctly ;)
1244538368 M * BenG all the same, I think I'll just stick to "morning" in future when I don't know :)
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1244540566 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1244540574 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1244546278 M * pmjdebruijn hmmm
1244546297 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: shouldn't filesystems that are used by vservers(guests) be locked?
1244546390 M * daniel_hozac they are.
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1244546472 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com
1244546512 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: I could unmount
1244546517 M * pmjdebruijn while a vserver was running
1244546528 M * Bertl_oO on the host :)
1244546535 M * pmjdebruijn yes
1244546545 M * Bertl_oO you can't unmount in all namespaces when the guest is running
1244546561 M * pmjdebruijn but that means it's still mounted in the vserver namespace?
1244546572 M * Bertl_oO bingo!
1244546600 M * pmjdebruijn hmm ok
1244546616 M * pmjdebruijn we do the initial mount on the hosts, before starting the vserver though
1244546620 M * pmjdebruijn host*
1244546622 M * pmjdebruijn does that matter
1244546643 M * Bertl_oO not really, except that the mounts are sitting around on the host namespace too
1244546692 M * pmjdebruijn yeah ok
1244546696 M * pmjdebruijn that's what we want...
1244546710 M * pmjdebruijn that eases your backup process
1244546759 M * Bertl_oO mine?
1244547297 M * pmjdebruijn ours :)
1244547306 M * pmjdebruijn s/your/our/
1244547309 M * pmjdebruijn doh!
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1244550823 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1244551004 M * vasko hi
1244551189 M * vasko i've hit a weird problem on 2.6.29.2-vs2.3.0.36.12, when starting guest hostname on host is changed to guests name. when setting manually on host, it changes also guest's name and vice versa
1244551244 M * vasko i cannot reproduce it on other servers and this one is already in a production so i cannot do much testing here
1244551268 M * vasko i'd like to know if this is a bug or just some kind of misconfiguration.
1244551314 M * daniel_hozac sounds like old utils on a new kernel.
1244551394 M * vasko 0.30.214
1244551410 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1244551413 M * vasko ok, i'll try newer, thanks
1244551424 M * daniel_hozac you'll want 0.30.216-preXXXX
1244551504 M * vasko is the guest now running with more capabilities than is the normal default?
1244551542 M * daniel_hozac no, it's just not running as isolated as it should be.
1244551555 M * vasko ok
1244552569 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-87-171.tukw.qwest.net
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1244556449 M * wibble hmm, net::server appears to fail in linux vserver :(
1244556583 M * Bertl_oO wibble: in what way?
1244556608 M * wibble t/UDP_test................NOK 5/5make[1]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
1244556608 M * wibble make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
1244556608 M * wibble make[1]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
1244556624 M * wibble simply won't build. Tested on the host OS and works fine
1244556640 M * wibble I'm trying to find out what it is actually doing
1244556760 M * BWare mannually build it 
1244556771 M * BWare should be somewhere in ~/.cpan
1244556771 M * wibble ah, it's trying to do something on localhost
1244557276 P * thierryp ciao folks
1244557336 M * Bertl_oO so what's the problem with 'localhost' in your setup?
1244557353 M * wibble it doesn't have 127.0.0.1 !
1244557377 M * Bertl_oO what kernel/patch version do you use?
1244557392 M * wibble unforutnately a little old, one sec!
1244557435 M * wibble 2.6.18
1244557442 M * wibble not sure what patch (still checking)
1244557464 M * fb wibble: uname -r doesn't reveal this?
1244557479 M * wibble no, using Debian stock kernel (sorry!)
1244557482 M * wibble 2.6.18-6-vserver-686
1244557576 M * fb Etch  2.6.18+6  2.0.2.2-rc9 
1244557590 M * Bertl_oO okay, so configure localhost to resolve to your first guest IP
1244557617 M * wibble yes, that solved the first issue, then HTTP::Server is looking for 127.0.0.1 !
1244557723 J * thierryp ~thierry@intern174.lnk.telstra.net
1244557729 M * Bertl_oO well, that's broken behaviour :)
1244557744 M * Bertl_oO anyway, the only 'proper' solution to that is to update
1244557754 Q * thierryp 
1244557765 M * wibble I see. does the update give true 127.0.0.1 support?
1244557868 M * Bertl_oO recent kernels provide lo isolation via remapping
1244557873 M * Bertl_oO (the feature is called lback remap)
1244557886 M * wibble ok cool will take a look at that!
1244557893 M * wibble thanks as always :)
1244557901 M * Bertl_oO i.e. 127. is mapped to a specific 127.x.y.1, and mapped back to 127.0.0.1
1244557907 M * wibble (it is very rare I have to ask, as it just works!!)
1244557919 M * Bertl_oO (which makes basically all broken apps 'work' :)
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1244558179 M * fb wibble: and migration from etch to lenny is not as difficult as the previous dist-upgrade
1244558195 M * fb wibble: but, do read upgrade instuctions, if you plan this
1244558213 M * wibble heh, I was just about to do an apt dist-upgrade :P ;)
1244558278 M * fb wibble: you can break your sysem with just dist-upgrade
1244558281 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1244558286 M * wibble it was a joke!
1244558362 M * fb wibble: a lot of admins just do dist-upgrade, and when the machine gets disconnected starts to think what could go wrong ;)
1244558393 M * wibble lol
1244558405 M * wibble if someone did that here, their P45 would be following!
1244558904 M * daniel_hozac you'd throw a motherboard at them?
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1244583599 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1244583604 M * Bertl back now ...
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