1243123264 J * saulus ~saulus@c193248.adsl.hansenet.de
1243123790 J * kgoetz kgoetz@203.209.167.143
1243129273 M * sid3windr hmpf
1243129283 M * sid3windr I tried to build a yum guest without yum installed
1243129290 M * sid3windr now I have a .rpmdb and a proc I cannot remove :(
1243129294 M * sid3windr device or resource busy
1243130022 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving...
1243131714 M * Bertl unmount it?
1243131880 M * sid3windr it's not mounted
1243131884 M * sid3windr at least not from the host side
1243131890 M * sid3windr I tried to chcontext to the old id but no go
1243131902 M * Bertl it is mounted inside the guest namespace
1243131920 M * Bertl try to enter that with vnamespace
1243131928 M * sid3windr ahh hmm
1243131944 M * Bertl or maybe it is even mounted on the host, check with /proc/mounts
1243131966 M * sid3windr nope, not on the host, I checked that :)
1243131990 M * Kamping_Kaiser lsof |grep rpmdb return anything?
1243132007 M * sid3windr nope - that wouldn't stop me from rm'ing it either ;)
1243132033 M * Kamping_Kaiser true :)
1243132060 M * sid3windr is there a way to list the namespaces?
1243132069 M * Bertl nope
1243132082 M * sid3windr ok :]
1243132087 M * sid3windr then they'll stay there until the box reboots
1243132087 M * Bertl mainline decided that they should be 'transparent'
1243132097 M * sid3windr probably until 2010 somewhere ;)
1243132110 M * sid3windr or some root hole comes up :p
1243132139 M * sid3windr Checking preinstall checks
1243132139 M * sid3windr find: /proc/1/task/1: No such file or directory
1243132139 M * sid3windr Error, OS check failed
1243132146 M * sid3windr I hate sh*t like this. :/
1243132213 M * sid3windr (i don't need os preinstall checks, I know what I'm installing it on)
1243132224 M * sid3windr but is there a reason this is hidden/"broken" in my guest?
1243132232 M * sid3windr -bash-3.2# ls /proc/1/task/ -l
1243132232 M * sid3windr total 0
1243132232 M * sid3windr ?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? 1
1243132383 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23F8E1.dip.t-dialin.net
1243132521 M * sid3windr hmm scratch that :)
1243132530 M * sid3windr or well, still curious, but not the cause for the error
1243132788 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243132869 M * Bertl the old kernel with the initpid issue
1243134351 J * Floops[w] ~baihu@205.214.201.176
1243134741 Q * Floops[w]1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243134823 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1243134827 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1243136618 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp121-44-217-44.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
1243137277 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243140191 Q * uva_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243142793 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243144032 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1243144051 Q * AndrewLee Quit: leaving
1243144117 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw
1243144192 Q * geb 
1243145317 J * uva bno@118-160-170-48.dynamic.hinet.net
1243146233 M * Kamping_Kaiser Is there something I can do which allows me to build chroots inside a vserver? When i tried I got this error: http://paste.debian.net/36924/
1243146335 M * Kamping_Kaiser Another problem I"ve seen is a message saying "E: Failed to mount /proc: Operation not permitted" When trying to use pbuilder. Dont know if its related (doesnt look it, but i'm not familiar with vservers yet)
1243148028 J * doener ~doener@i59F56A08.versanet.de
1243148133 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243149455 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1243150970 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net
1243153471 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1243154258 J * yarihm ~yarihm@adsl-68-121-162-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net
1243154324 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1243155569 J * Keeper longhorn40@94.50.96.48
1243156698 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1243156702 M * Bertl morning folks!
1243156713 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1243156728 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243156744 M * Bertl Kamping_Kaiser: well, there are several ways to do that actually .. one is to avoid device creation, another one is to use the device mapper feature (from vs2.3)
1243156833 M * Keeper Bertl: Good morning
1243157197 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243157229 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1243157952 Q * saulus Remote host closed the connection
1243158179 M * Kamping_Kaiser Bertl, 'morning. 
1243158320 M * Kamping_Kaiser vserver --version returns 'vserver 0.30.216-pre2772 -- manages the state of vservers`. Is this the version I'm looking for?
1243158496 M * Bertl a more recent one would be good (for recent vs2.3 kernels), but this one should be able to do it too
1243158577 M * Kamping_Kaiser I'll try with this one; thanks for the help
1243158625 M * Bertl np
1243158753 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1243159860 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1243160070 J * harobed_ ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1243160070 Q * harobed Read error: Connection reset by peer
1243160393 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1243160511 M * Kamping_Kaiser http://nigauri.org/~iwamatsu/d/?date=20081207 Someone with the same issue I have. I'll try and get it translated (its japanese) and see if it helps
1243160753 M * Kamping_Kaiser http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnigauri.org%2F~iwamatsu%2Fd%2F%3Fdate%3D20081207&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
1243161276 M * Kamping_Kaiser ooOOoOOOoOo. that fix seems to work. *goes to check if thats what Bertl was telling him to do*
1243161658 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1243161666 Q * BenG 
1243163210 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1243163300 M * Keeper How to add namespace net?
1243164224 M * Bertl you need to unshare it, there is preliminary support in util-vserver for automating that, but you need to contact daniel_hozac for the details ...
1243164281 M * Bertl I think you touch a file called 'net' in the 'spaces' dir
1243164366 M * Keeper Bertl: I tried not loaded guest
1243164414 M * Bertl make sure you have the latest version (probably from the svn) and a very recent kernel
1243164599 M * Keeper Bertl: Kernel 2.6.28.9
1243164832 M * Marillion Keeper: btw. 2.6.28.10 is out
1243164851 M * Marillion http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.28.10-vs2.3.0.36.11.diff
1243164921 M * Keeper Bertl: I have a question of security, the one who is in the guest environment can create a device file and copy it to the guest environment, and thereby gain access to it?
1243164955 M * Marillion but i think that Bertl mean the 2.6.29 Branch
1243164969 M * Kamping_Kaiser Bertl, I think setting ADMIN_MAPPER has fixed the /dev/null error from the link i found. just trying to test it again atm.
1243164977 M * Kamping_Kaiser so tyvm for your help :)
1243165031 M * Keeper Marillion: Yes, I know that already have a new patch just yet there was no need updated, but I think that now it is time :)
1243165045 M * Marillion :)
1243165084 M * Kamping_Kaiser  /dev/null seems to be an issue, but other then that and makedev not working (not suprised) its looking quite healthy.
1243165115 M * Keeper Marillion: You've tried to run iptables in a guest environment?
1243165193 M * Marillion Keeper: no, i don't need it, for one service one guest, it the best way *afaik*
1243165239 M * Marillion if you mean for security
1243165308 M * Bertl Keeper: creating devices is not allowed by default (inside the guest)
1243165465 M * Keeper Bertl: Yes, I know, but if you create a device file on another server and moved to the guest environment, then there will be access to the device?
1243165514 M * Bertl unless you are using the device mapper, yes .. but there is no way to 'move' it into the guest 'accidentially' or from the guest itself
1243165517 J * grobie ~grobie@tyr.schnuckelig.eu
1243165548 M * Bertl so, it is secure, unless you make it insecure :)
1243165621 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving.
1243165790 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1243165829 M * Keeper Bertl: Sorry if the question just stupid, it was just a little unclear why, and asked, but now it is clear that the access devices is possible only through vdevmap or as otherwise
1243165865 M * Bertl basically you have two options here again:
1243165895 M * Marillion Keeper: you can iptables-rules to define on host with --source IP or prerouting
1243165904 M * Bertl - use the device mapper to allow ceating certain/arbitrary devices, but block 'evil'/unwanted ones (either access or creation or both)
1243165934 M * Bertl - run without device mapper, and make sure that you do not put evil/unwanted devices into the guest
1243166100 M * Bertl in either case the guest is secure, unless you screw up :)
1243166159 M * Keeper Bertl: I like VServer and I want to use it for VDS hosting is why I ask you that how it works
1243166203 M * Bertl sure, it is designed for a potential hostile environment ... i.e. if configured correctly, no harm can be done from inside a guest
1243166296 M * Keeper Marillion: So I do, but just interesting to run in a guest environment :)
1243166304 M * Kamping_Kaiser speaking of guests. Since I didnt get a reply when i asked this in another channel; does anyone else thing the guest being given its path is a problem? http://paste.debian.net/36831/ . It was a result of something i did via the parent, but i still think its a bit weird
1243166422 M * Marillion Keeper: ah ok
1243166485 M * Bertl Kamping_Kaiser: what is/was weird for you?
1243166524 M * Kamping_Kaiser Bertl, being inside a guest and being told my full path on the hosts filesystem; to wit /var/lib/vservers/autobuilders/lib/vservers/buildvserver
1243166532 M * Keeper Bertl: Unfortunately I did not fully разобрался workings VServer but you and your community ready to help and this is to say thank you for your patience and work ;)
1243166589 M * Kamping_Kaiser infact, looking at it again that path looks like its the path to both the vservers i was messing with at the time.
1243166641 M * Keeper Bertl: Sorry, some words in Russian, I forgot to switch :D
1243166695 M * Bertl Kamping_Kaiser: if you manage to get a host path on a recent (non broken, i.e. non-debian :) kernel and util-vserver, then it is considered a bug and will be fixed ASAP
1243166715 M * Bertl Kamping_Kaiser: because that basically means that the namespace isolation is not working properly
1243166781 M * Kamping_Kaiser Bertl, ok. I might leave that on the backburner for a while. building new kernels+vserver isnt something i can invest in for a while :/
1243166796 M * Marillion Keeper: use for the translate :) http://www.google.de/language_tools?hl=ru
1243166867 M * Bertl Kamping_Kaiser: you can also use the stable branch, which should be provided via packages for most distros
1243166987 M * Keeper Marillion: Convenient, but some words do not translate so sometimes shows Russian words without translation :D
1243167380 M * Marillion oh of course that is a pity
1243167600 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1243167606 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1243167729 M * Marillion my english lesson in the school is ~20 years ago, i forget much words
1243167829 M * Keeper Marillion: Main language is well known :)
1243167847 M * Marillion yeah ;)
1243169262 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1243170361 Q * ard Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243170521 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1243172450 J * scientes_ ~scientes@174-21-88-43.tukw.qwest.net
1243172705 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-100-169.customers.d1-online.com
1243174287 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243174524 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1243175840 J * saulus ~saulus@c193248.adsl.hansenet.de
1243176618 Q * harobed_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243178161 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-14-46.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1243181582 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1243181601 Q * ghislainocfs2 
1243182239 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa
1243182310 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1243182695 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1243184136 M * Keeper bye
1243184155 M * Keeper Good Luck
1243184163 Q * Keeper Quit: Keeper
1243185470 M * Bertl_oO nap attack ... bbl
1243185475 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1243186235 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated!
1243187693 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180193040.adsl.alicedsl.de
1243188873 J * ousado ~johnny@p5B3C2978.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1243189124 J * harobed_ ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1243189282 Q * ousado__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243189367 Q * ousado Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243189587 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1243190128 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving...
1243193503 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243194032 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello084115149052.4.graz.surfer.at
1243194323 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1243194664 M * Bertl back now ...
1243196036 J * yarihm ~yarihm@adsl-68-121-162-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net
1243196222 J * ousado ~johnny@p5B3C2978.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1243196561 M * micah did svn.linux-vserver-org (207.69.131.10) move, or is it just down?
1243196600 M * Bertl works fine here
1243196621 M * Bertl different IP though
1243196632 M * micah oh?
1243196643 M * mnemoc 78.47.240.170 here
1243196647 M * Bertl well, actually different name i.e. svn.linux-vserver.org not svn.linux-vserver-org
1243196666 M * micah yes, sorry that was a typo :)
1243196678 M * micah its the svn connection that seems to be failing:
1243196678 M * micah svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver': could not connect to server (http://svn.linux-vserver.org)
1243196681 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243196712 M * micah but perhaps I have an incorrect svn url
1243196712 M * mnemoc svn ls http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver works flawless here
1243196737 M * mnemoc with the host resolving to the IP I gave above
1243196740 M * micah when I do that, I get this response:
1243196740 M * micah svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver': could not connect to server (http://svn.linux-vserver.org)
1243196751 M * micah i'm also getting that same IP
1243196765 M * mnemoc transparent proxy bothering?
1243196780 M * micah none here
1243196789 M * Bertl you listed a different one above?
1243196796 M * micah Bertl: that was a typo when I pinged
1243196803 M * Bertl ah, okay :)
1243196806 J * scientes_ ~scientes@174-21-88-43.tukw.qwest.net
1243196810 M * micah i get 78.47.240.170 when I look it up, and I can ping there fine
1243196830 M * micah but using svn 1.5.6 doing: svn ls http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver I get that error
1243196832 M * Bertl yes, svn ls works here too, as does the web interface
1243196843 M * micah the web interface is working fine for me
1243196858 M * mnemoc web is just a GET you are getting troubles with the OPTIONS
1243196976 M * micah seems to work with a different svn version, so I think its my local svn 
1243196998 M * Bertl new debian version? just kidding :)
1243197048 M * mnemoc :D
1243197213 M * Bertl micah: how's going, and what are the plans for debian stable? 
1243197231 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009050120]
1243197379 M * micah Bertl: its good, nice weather caused me to get sunburned... but otherwise good :)
1243197394 M * micah Bertl: debian stable was released and no plans for maybe 10 years or so
1243197398 M * micah for the next one ;)
1243197411 M * Bertl okay, so it will stay 'broken'?
1243197454 M * micah i can update the utilities that are in unstable with the latest svn revision, since there has not been a release yet
1243197469 M * micah and then I can backport that version to stable so those folks can have that version
1243197477 M * micah but I dont know if that svn version is 'broken' or not too
1243197478 M * Bertl I'm actually more worried about the 2.6.26 kernel
1243197508 M * Marillion micah: write a bug-report wishlist to the Maintainer
1243197515 M * micah Marillion: what maintainer?
1243197534 M * Bertl lol
1243197549 M * Marillion for Debian util-vserver
1243197561 M * micah Marillion: it seems a waste to write a bug report to myself
1243197574 M * Marillion hi ole
1243197591 M * micah Bertl: i'm curious what is broken in the 2.6.26 version... although I dont handle that myself
1243197601 M * micah Marillion: you mean ola, and ola hasn't touched the package in forever
1243197621 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243197638 M * Marillion micah: ah sorry, for wrong write the name ;)
1243197649 M * Bertl micah: well, the main 'problem' seems to be that the 2.6.26 version uses 'wrong' filesystem attributes, which cause a lot of grief for folks switching from or to that kernel :)
1243197692 M * Bertl micah: but also the missing TB scheduler, the initpid issue (pid 1 parent wrong) and a bunch of other minor issues are part of that release
1243197808 M * micah it would be good to talk to waldi about a point release update to address those issues
1243197819 M * micah are those in the vserver patch itself, or issues in the kernel (or both)?
1243197849 M * Bertl mostly in the Linux-VServer patch, as it was not intended for a release before 2.6.27
1243197913 M * Bertl most of it could be backported to 2.6.26 though, which only leaves us with the 2.6.26 (mainline) issues
1243197914 M * Marillion micah: which kernel-version use you?
1243198037 M * micah Marillion: i am managing several hundred machines, and as a result I am using three or four different kernel versions
1243198087 M * Marillion micah: ok, sorry that i ask ;)
1243198185 M * micah Bertl: so I guess we need a plan to make that happen. the things that seem like they need to be done is to write an email to the debian kernel list describing the issues and how they are significant, and then request information about plans for a point-release update, and perhaps an offer for an updated 2.6.26 patch-set with the fixes backported
1243198230 M * micah if we can get some response that such a backported patch would be integrated into an update, then we know its worth doing
1243198306 M * micah i'd be happy to draft up an email and then maybe you can fill in the pieces I get wrong, or more info about the impacts of the issues?
1243198333 M * Bertl okay, no problem with that
1243198361 M * Bertl there should be a bunch of debian bug reports on that already, unless the debian folks didn't report anything despite my suggestion to do so
1243198945 M * Marillion lenny (at half) is still coming, ok in 9 month or one year :)
1243200052 Q * harobed_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243201228 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243201676 M * micah Bertl: what would you say were the reasons why there was no vserver patch released for 2.6.26?
1243201726 M * micah (or why that version was being targetted for 2.6.27)... i have a high level understanding that this was likely due to the fact that the upstream kernel was undergoing major internal changes that affected virtualization and so the patchset needed a major overhaul
1243201738 M * micah but would like to include some of those details in this draft
1243201958 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1243203112 M * pmjdebruijn micah: 2.6.27 is -stable, is long time maintained
1243203137 M * pmjdebruijn very little reason to support 2.6.26 then... 
1243203268 M * pmjdebruijn it has baffled me why Debian select 2.6.26 for Lenny
1243203275 M * pmjdebruijn selected*
1243203330 M * micah pmjdebruijn: timing issues
1243203352 M * pmjdebruijn huh?
1243203366 M * pmjdebruijn wasn't 2.6.27 released long before lenny was released?
1243203376 M * pmjdebruijn anyhow
1243203382 A * pmjdebruijn doesn't use Debian kernels anyway
1243203771 M * Marillion pmjdebruijn: lenny was released with .26, that is the problem
1243203781 M * pmjdebruijn I know :)
1243203794 M * pmjdebruijn they also removed the bnx2 firmware from the installation kernel
1243203798 M * pmjdebruijn massive ennoyence
1243203815 M * pmjdebruijn effectively meaning lenny can't be netinstall on 50% of all decent servers
1243203820 M * Marillion is now int repo
1243203827 M * pmjdebruijn since e1000 and bnx2 are the only chips found in real servers :(
1243203831 M * pmjdebruijn oh well
1243203832 M * Marillion s/int/in the
1243203842 M * pmjdebruijn in what repo?
1243203850 M * Marillion firmware-bnx2
1243203869 M * Marillion debian repo
1243203908 M * Marillion repository as i mean :)
1243204134 M * Marillion pmjdebruijn: sorry for my bad english, i must new learn it
1243204317 M * Piet hi! I just upgraded a vserver to lenny (coming from etch) and would like it to reboot. unfortunately, on the host server, it does no longer know this server. it is still listed in vserver-stat, but without a hostname. now how can i restart this vserver and what can i do to make it's hostname show up on the vserver-stat output again?
1243204359 M * Marillion pmjdebruijn: you come from netherlands, you understand better german, as i speak english ;)
1243204579 M * Piet Bertl: still awake? sorry for buging you there
1243205076 M * Marillion Piet: try "vuname" again, but i don't know that won't solve your case.
1243205385 M * Marillion Piet: or another suggest, show to BTS for more information
1243205488 M * Piet Marillion: vuname did not help, it does output the hostname correctly.
1243205517 M * Piet actuall yi don't seem to want to set the hostname but the "Virtual server name"
1243206062 M * Bertl Piet: kernel and util-vserver version?
1243206121 M * Piet 2.6.26 on debian  :-)) (just read your conversation above)  lenny host + now also guest.
1243206164 M * Piet Bertl: i'll pastebin the vserver-stat outout so you know what i mean
1243206191 M * Piet well actually, it's just two lines
1243206202 M * Piet CTX   PROC    VSZ    RSS  userTIME   sysTIME    UPTIME NAME
1243206210 M * Piet 6985    13  77.2M  22.5M   1h29m40   2h09m41  56d10h57 
1243206218 M * Piet there are other vservers there
1243206247 M * Marillion Piet:  and what is in uts/nodename? 
1243206268 M * Piet util-vserver is 0.30.216~r2772-6
1243206279 M * Bertl doesn't matter, you probably lost the entry in /var/run/vservers*
1243206312 M * Bertl note that both kernel and util-vserver are known to be broken (the ones you are using :)
1243206350 M * Piet it is still in /var/run/vservers.rev but no longer in /var/run/vservers
1243206380 M * Marillion Bertl: i have no problems, but i use 2.6.27.15 with harrys patchset :)
1243206381 M * Piet Bertl: i'll talk to micah about it later to determne my options, unless you can quickly hook me up
1243206438 M * Piet Bertl: so do i just create /var/run/vservers/vservername ?
1243206443 M * Bertl well, question is, devel/experimental kernel or stable branch (probably the former) and do you have a problem to compile stuff on your own :)
1243206500 M * Bertl s/on your own/yourself/
1243206529 M * Piet i would prefer a stable kernel (is this the question you're asking ?) and would prefer not to compile from source, but can do
1243206564 M * Bertl well, stable kernel means 2.6.22.x, which is perfectly fine
1243206602 M * Bertl I'm not sure how the debian support for that is, but there should be some debs somewhere (at least there were)
1243206664 M * Piet ok, did this, now i can stop it. <Piet> Bertl: so do i just create /var/run/vservers/vservername ?
1243206740 M * Piet and start, too
1243206746 M * Bertl yep, with the correct xid
1243206791 M * Piet yes, it has the right one
1243206845 M * Piet linux-image-2.6.26-1-vserver-686                      2.6.26-13
1243206854 M * Piet that's what's currently running
1243206977 M * Piet anyways, thanks for your help so far
1243207095 M * Bertl np
1243209101 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c192198.adsl.hansenet.de
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