1242346908 Q * ^jan Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242349044 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.201.29
1242356123 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1242358778 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1242363292 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.14.29
1242364823 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-242-57.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no
1242366440 J * ^jan ~jan@83.Red-80-33-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1242366768 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242367565 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1242368486 Q * ktwilight Quit: dead
1242369914 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1242371768 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1242372060 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@248.8-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1242372252 J * cga ~weechat@194.244.1.35
1242372438 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1242372757 M * ktwilight did something change in 2.3.0.36.10? default guests didn't boot...even when apps/init/mark is marked.
1242372764 M * ktwilight uh...
1242372766 A * ktwilight checks website
1242372805 M * ktwilight ah, new version.
1242373184 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net
1242373341 M * ghislainocfs2 vsomething added to the wiki :)
1242373348 M * ghislainocfs2 http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Useful_commands#Doign_one_action_to_ALL_vservers_in_one_go
1242374678 M * hijacker cool
1242374684 M * hijacker cheers ghislainocfs2 
1242374708 M * ghislainocfs2 daniel: do you know commands that are not in the utility docs ? i am willing to add them
1242374718 M * ghislainocfs2 hijacker: thanks ;)
1242375855 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving...
1242376839 M * ghislainocfs2 is anyone know how to build a vserver when you need to have mountpoints for various directory. Each time i try the utils just rename the existing directory moving away the mount points :(
1242376939 M * ghislainocfs2 i think i have no way :(
1242377217 M * pmjdebruijn ghislainocfs2: use vserver's fstab?
1242377239 A * pmjdebruijn doesn't fully understand what you want...
1242377320 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr
1242377322 M * mnemoc ghislainocfs2: /etc/vservers/$name/fstab
1242377537 M * ghislainocfs2 no its at build time
1242377549 M * ghislainocfs2 so the fstab is not read (at least i think)
1242377578 M * ghislainocfs2 i want to build the vserver guest into the allready created mount hierarchy
1242377593 M * mnemoc no idea then
1242377609 M * ghislainocfs2 basicaly it's /var/tmp, /tmp and /home that are on special mount points
1242377613 M * ghislainocfs2 :)
1242377613 M * mnemoc i don't use the standard helpers when creating guests
1242377656 M * ghislainocfs2 i think best option is to create them, stop them, move them, create the hierarchy, move the file over, restart
1242377666 M * mnemoc why do you need them premounted?
1242377680 M * ghislainocfs2 to bad we cannot just say to the utilks 'just =do not move the dirs in place ! :) '
1242377699 M * mnemoc the "creation" should not place anything on _those_ directories anyway
1242377717 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz
1242377754 M * ghislainocfs2 yes i do not list all the dirs :), /var/run is part of them
1242377788 M * ghislainocfs2 but i guess i could easely move it as it's not heavy
1242377856 M * mnemoc make a post creation script doing the moves :)
1242377878 M * mnemoc /var/run is also supposed to be rm -rf on init
1242377881 M * ghislainocfs2 ok will do that :)
1242377886 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1242377931 M * ghislainocfs2 hum the suvbdirectory created in ti will not be recreated i think
1242377945 M * ghislainocfs2 lika apache2 / exim4 / puppet ...
1242378035 J * doener ~doener@i59F56D01.versanet.de
1242378071 M * mnemoc right, most do find /var/run/ ! -type d -exec rm -f '{}' \; instead of rm -rf
1242378279 M * ghislainocfs2 yep :)
1242378371 M * mnemoc but also most (decent) /var/run/ users create their structure if it's missing :)
1242378998 Q * ^jan Read error: Connection reset by peer
1242379173 M * fb mnemoc: find /var/run/ ! -type d | xargs -r rm would be better (and faster) approach ;)
1242379464 J * ^jan ~jan@83.Red-80-33-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1242379522 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1242379690 M * mnemoc fb: doesn't xargs fork too?
1242379727 M * mnemoc I'm not a fan of -exec, but I would love to know why xargs does better in this case :)
1242379960 M * PowerKe mnemoc: -exec executes one by one while xargs groups the rm ?
1242379973 M * mnemoc oh, didsn'
1242379978 M * mnemoc t notice the flag
1242380003 M * mnemoc .oO
1242380022 A * mnemoc goes to read xargs's man
1242380049 M * mnemoc i didn't know xargs grouped the argument
1242380160 M * mnemoc $ echo a b c | tr ' ' '\n' | xargs -r echo
1242380160 M * mnemoc a b c
1242380164 M * mnemoc narf
1242380211 M * mnemoc I was self convised xargs run the command for each line on input
1242380778 M * fb mnemoc: that's main purpose of xargs
1242380814 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1242380881 M * fb to group arguments, and even better, if the args list is too long, it will divide it into parts
1242380907 M * fb mnemoc: and xargs -0 is sometimes really handy :)
1242380915 M * fb (and -r)
1242380970 M * mnemoc I suppose \0 is a must when you risk to have spaces
1242381041 M * mnemoc splitting lines, that is handy.... i many times have to for x in foo/*; do something "$x"/*; done because of length
1242381063 J * ben00001 ~ben@host90-152-0-26.ipv4.regusnet.com
1242381074 M * ben00001 Hey guys - I'm after a little assistance
1242381262 M * ben00001 We were running Debian Etch with Linux-Vserver 2.6.26-bpo.1-vserver-686 with good success, but we have since changed servers and our new platform is running Debian Lenny - which means we needed to install the latest kernal. The bonus was that we didn't have to use a backported kernel, 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 was natively supported. 
1242381313 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-24-227.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr
1242381317 M * Bertl morning folks!
1242381320 Q * geb 
1242381338 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1242381348 M * ben00001 However, although it installed and is working *fine* - I'm having an issue that I used to have with Etch when it wasn't running a backported kernel. After some time the vserver has been running - for no apparent reason, the network interface drops from the v-server. Rebooting the offending v-server resolves the problem. 
1242381391 M * Bertl proper observation, wrong conclusion :)
1242381407 M * ben00001 I can't find anything in the logs (not sure which logs in particular to look at though) that could explain what is going on. Obviously, the fix last time was to install 2.6.26 - but that's what we are running now.
1242381426 M * ben00001 Bertl! I don't know if you remember - but I had this issue a while back and you were helping me through it!
1242381454 M * Bertl most likely (note: we could not confirm that yet, but I'm pretty confident) 'something' takes your interface down and up again for no apparent reason
1242381488 M * Bertl the 'offending' guest is the victim not the offender and restarting it, simply addrs back the IP
1242381496 M * Bertl *adds
1242381531 M * ben00001 http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2008-09/LOG_2008-09-26.txt
1242381538 M * ben00001 thats the log from when I had the issue last time
1242381540 M * Bertl what you might find if you look for it is on the host, in /var/log/messages a note that ifplugd (or something similar) did take down the interface and brought it up again
1242381552 M * geb hi
1242381573 M * ben00001 I was posting under the username "vserveruser"
1242381697 M * Bertl well, check the logs or upload the log (host) for the time in question, make sure to add some time margin, as the effect will not be noticed immediately
1242381714 M * ben00001 which log should I grab
1242381722 M * ben00001 syslog messages ?
1242381736 M * ben00001 is there one in particular for the network interfaces (Debian Lenny)
1242381774 M * Bertl I have no idea for debian, on mandriva I find such events in /var/log/messages
1242381803 M * Bertl maybe grab for existing messages first, like 'down' or 'up'
1242381803 M * ben00001 its pretty baron
1242381876 M * ben00001 http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12922
1242381958 M * ben00001 I'm doing a few greps now to find info relating to eth0 etc.
1242381984 M * geb if eth0 were down you should get messages in dmesg
1242381989 M * geb "link up/down"
1242382004 M * ^jan Bertl: sorry to disturb... Do you have any idea why this error appears in messages log file in the host?  --> kernel: vxW: [»irqbalance«,4598:#101|49155] messing with the procfs.
1242382050 M * ^jan I get often vxW errors in my logs in several host servers and I have no idea how to solve them
1242382061 M * Bertl it is a warning, and it states that a process called irqbalance (in context 101 is trying to access hidden entries in proc
1242382066 M * ben00001 http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12923 - the last 30 lines output from dmesg
1242382081 M * ^jan great, thanks... now I can search better
1242382112 M * Bertl ^jan: I'd suspect that you have irqbalance running in a guest
1242382161 M * ^jan yeah, could be, they have cpanel installed and it install several things that I have to fix later, like bandmin
1242382291 M * ben00001 the closest thing I found relating to my issue was this (http://communities.vmware.com/thread/83063) but I checked through all files in /etc/udev and there wasn't like the OP described
1242382319 M * Bertl what kernel are you using atm? the lock limit sounds strange
1242382342 M * ben00001 Linux 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Mar 27 06:11:27 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1242382376 M * Bertl well, upgrade to a recent kernel .. 2.6.26 is known to be broken
1242382430 M * ben00001 whats the latest stable available
1242382448 M * Bertl 2.6.22, but 2.6.28/2.6.29 is fine
1242382470 M * ben00001 I take it there isn't a precompiled flavour for lenny kicking about
1242382490 M * ben00001 its just that I can't remember offhand how to compile a kernel
1242382494 M * Bertl there probably is, just not publicly available .. a lot of folks built there own
1242382524 M * Bertl ask around a little, I'm sure somebody has rebuilt a vanilla kernel with all modules and stuff 'the debian way'
1242382596 M * ben00001 I'll give it a quick bash! What's the worst that can happen eh!
1242382652 M * ben00001 hmm
1242382657 M * ben00001 theres a 2.6.29 on backports
1242382802 M * ben00001 doh, not for amd64
1242382871 M * ben00001 Just downloading source and compiling now ... shouldn't be long
1242383011 M * geb i have a 2.6.28.7-grsec2.1.13-vs2.3.0.36.7
1242383026 M * geb but i removed some things like audio support, atm etc
1242383035 M * geb i can put the .deb online or the config
1242383078 M * ben00001 yeah, I obv. don't need audio support on a production server that doesn't even have X
1242383090 M * ben00001 what are the benefits of the grsec patch
1242383166 M * geb grsec add some hardening : randomized PID, better separation on memory ( no writable and executable memory) ...
1242383178 M * ghislainocfs2  make-kpkg --revision 1 --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image kernel_headers     dpkg -i ../kernel-image-version.deb 
1242383178 M * geb and some things you can configure
1242383188 M * ghislainocfs2  make-kpkg --revision 1 --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image kernel_headers    ; dpkg -i ../kernel-image-version.deb 
1242383197 M * ghislainocfs2 oups sorry for the doublepost
1242383216 M * ben00001 I was just vaguely following this (http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_vserver_debian)
1242383228 M * geb http://gebura.eu.org/work/admin/
1242383250 M * geb but i don't remember very well all stuff i removed...
1242383258 M * geb fell free to use it ... or not !
1242383267 M * ben00001 lol
1242383275 M * ben00001 Lenny stable I take it?
1242383286 M * ben00001 we're running mail and web off this single server
1242383292 M * ben00001 so it needs to be reasonable
1242383324 M * geb you can load the config if you want verify what was removed
1242383334 M * geb but if you have time, test building your own :)
1242383349 M * ben00001 I always have time! This server has to be rock solid
1242383373 M * ben00001 We're running 3 ecommerce stores that generate a fair revenue which have to be moved onto it
1242383385 M * ben00001 we had great stability on the last one - so I expect nothing less from this
1242383417 M * ktwilight make sure you've tested before deploying then ;)
1242383425 M * geb i bet you'll more trust a kernel that you compiled with your own hand :)
1242383431 M * ben00001 the testing is in the deployment ;) lol
1242383448 M * Bertl ben00001: a customized kernel, based on e.g. 2.6.29.2 (not 3 atm) is probably your best bet regarding to stability (if you are testing anyway)
1242383544 M * ben00001 I'm building linux-2.6.29.2 right now
1242383570 M * ben00001 I can't remember if it will build in support for the RAID array - but its no biggie to rebuild the initrd image anyway
1242383605 M * geb make-kpkg can use actual configuration for proposing you default choice
1242383614 M * Bertl make sure that you configure the kernel so that it matches your system (i.e. remove all stuff you do not have use or hardware for :)
1242383640 M * geb so if you load linux-image-2.9-amd64 you will just have to select vserver support, all others stuffs will be debian default
1242383641 M * ben00001 I used menuconfig and loaded an the existing config I'm running atm
1242383653 M * geb (but that will include sound support !) 
1242383661 M * ben00001 Doh!
1242383669 M * ben00001 I flicked through - but a lot of it is over my head
1242383684 M * ben00001 and scary as the bulk says "experimental" next to it
1242383819 M * ktwilight which may also mean "unnecessary"
1242383833 M * ben00001 unfortunately - I don't know any better (yet!)
1242383850 M * geb i have some vserver using 192.168.0.X and one other on a 10.X.X.X (all are on the dummy0 interface), how can i deny acces betwen each others ?
1242383879 M * ben00001 could add /etc/hosts.deny
1242383887 M * ben00001 ALL: 10.*
1242383897 M * Bertl ben00001: a good option is to hire somebody who knows how to custom tailor a kernel to your system(s), that often yields a big improvement performance and stability wise
1242383910 M * ben00001 would you be interested ?
1242383932 M * Bertl sure, no problem with that, it is what I do for a living
1242383940 M * ben00001 ... interesting
1242383943 M * geb ben00001, i prefer a solution with iptables and/or vserver because /etc/hosts.* is only for *some* services
1242383955 M * ben00001 what do you charge roughly
1242383955 M * geb services that use tpd
1242383970 M * geb tcpd
1242383980 M * Bertl ben00001: let's take that private, shall we?
1242383998 M * ben00001 sounds like a plan - do you have an email address I could contact you on?
1242384029 M * Bertl sure, the 'usual' herbert<at>13thfloor<dot>at will do
1242384048 M * ben00001 <dot> com i assume
1242384061 M * Bertl nope <dot>at (austria)
1242386499 M * BenG Bertl, a quick question about the available patches, the website points the patch vs2.3.0.36.10, but you have .11 and .12 on the file server
1242386527 M * BenG are .11 and .12 for testing purposes, what situations are they for?
1242386560 M * BenG that's looks more like two questions, but anyway
1242386594 M * BenG loving the automatic 127.0.0.1 thing in the newer kernels BTW
1242386601 M * Bertl simple the web site wasn't updated recently 
1242386636 M * Bertl the .11 and .12 are preferable over the .10 (as usual, the latest version of the same branch has the most fixes)
1242386779 M * BenG cool, I'll roll some even newer kernels then
1242386802 A * BenG wonders if anyone's used his Debian packages except him
1242388517 J * rofe ~rofe@83.221.146.177
1242388625 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242388879 M * rofe hey...
1242388891 M * rofe I have a problem that I can't seem to find anything on
1242388916 M * rofe I have a Debian Lenny which is the host-system
1242388935 M * rofe network is configured with iproute2 only, and all traffic is tagged
1242388980 M * rofe I have made some routing tables and rules that routes the traffic from the guest systems to the right interface/vlan
1242389041 M * rofe the problem is that when I create a new vserver guest system, or stopping/restarting it, it flushes the routing table so I will have to manually add the routes again
1242389046 Q * Hollow Quit: leaving
1242389052 M * rofe anyone knows why ?
1242389052 J * Hollow ~bene@shiva.xnull.de
1242389062 M * rofe or how to solve it ?
1242389100 M * rofe I've tried to add the routes as static routes with iproute2 but that didn't make any difference
1242389290 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242389553 M * Bertl rofe: unfortunately that is how Linux is designed
1242389570 M * Bertl rofe: let me ask, what kind of routes do you need for those guests?
1242389584 M * rofe we have a vlan for physical servers
1242389608 M * rofe we then have two vlans (A and B)
1242389617 M * Bertl also note that the debian kernel und utils are broken, so better update them sooner or later :)
1242389640 M * Bertl vlans as in eth0.42, yes?
1242389645 M * rofe on the physical servers we make for example 3 guest systems on VLAN B each with thier own IP
1242389652 M * rofe they all use the same routing table 
1242389695 M * rofe vlans as in vlan11 and vlan12 if you think interface name
1242389708 M * rofe both using eth0 as device
1242389716 M * Bertl but they are created as ethernet 'tagged' vlans, right?
1242389721 M * rofe yes
1242389728 M * Bertl okay, just wanted to clarify
1242389747 M * Bertl each of them has a private network and a private default gateway?
1242389757 M * rofe and I use rules to direct traffic from an ip-range to a routing table in which I specify the default route
1242389771 M * rofe on the host system
1242389778 M * Bertl okay, so you mastered multiple routing tables already, good!
1242389798 M * rofe yes each network (ip-subnet) have their own gateway
1242389810 M * rofe which routes traffic between the vlans
1242389813 M * Bertl and you say, when creating a guest, your table disappears?
1242389818 M * rofe yes
1242389830 M * Bertl would you mind giving me the build command line?
1242389845 M * Bertl (feel free to 'adjust' ips or names)
1242389847 M * rofe no, one second then
1242389883 M * rofe vserver $name build -m debootstrap --context $context --hostname $hostname --interface $interface:$IPAddress -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian
1242389896 M * rofe I use a script in which I specify the variables
1242389945 M * rofe it would look like this
1242389946 M * rofe vserver TestServer build -m debootstrap --context 42 --hostname TestServer --interface vlan11:192.168.11.10 -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian
1242389992 M * rofe is that what you meant ?
1242389996 M * rofe by build line ?
1242390001 M * rofe build command line
1242390003 M * Bertl and at that time, vlan11 is already up and available, yes?
1242390007 M * rofe yes
1242390019 M * rofe the interface is up but not assigned any IP-address
1242390029 M * rofe and networking is working fine on the host system
1242390034 M * Bertl I don't see how the build process could mess with the routing table
1242390066 M * Bertl could it be that you have some special post-build scripts or so?
1242390069 M * rofe I don't get it either
1242390084 M * rofe it's a standard installation
1242390097 M * Bertl what util-vserver version?
1242390099 M * rofe I have installed Debian base system and then ssh and vserver
1242390105 M * rofe two seconds
1242390114 M * Bertl np, take your time
1242390134 M * rofe 0.30.216~r2772-6
1242390156 M * Bertl would it be hard for you to update that to a recent snapshot?
1242390189 M * rofe I don't know how to do it my self but I can get a colleague to help me
1242390225 M * Bertl okay, I would try that first, just to rule out that some ugly side-effect of the broken debian util-vserver affects you
1242390241 M * rofe okey... thank you :-)
1242390248 M * rofe I try that first
1242390254 M * Bertl you know where to find them?
1242390273 M * rofe not really, but google use to be a good place to start :-)
1242390280 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/
1242390291 M * rofe thanks!
1242390305 M * Bertl make sure to install dietlibc and some crypto libs, e.g. beecrypt
1242390308 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1242390565 Q * davidkarban Read error: Connection reset by peer
1242390918 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71
1242391345 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1242392279 J * docelic_ ~docelic@78.134.196.209
1242392399 M * pmjdebruijn http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/14/450 sweet, xfs,mm and cifs fixes :)
1242392453 M * Bertl yeah, nice ...
1242392673 Q * docelic Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242393147 M * ghislainocfs2 broken debian util-vserver affects you ? i was beleiving the utils where ok but the kernel was the issue :(
1242393321 P * rofe Leaving
1242393760 M * Bertl kernel is definitely broken, utils are unfortunate for certain setups/kernels
1242393771 M * Bertl they seem to work fine so far for the debian kernel/setup
1242393838 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1242394028 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.FireEgl.Com
1242394123 Q * BenG 
1242395214 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.14.29
1242396147 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa
1242396343 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1242397160 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242397352 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1242398373 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat
1242398606 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1242398930 M * ben00001 geb are you still about?
1242398939 M * geb yes :)
1242398952 M * ben00001 don't suppose you still have that kernel kicking about
1242398956 M * ben00001 http://gebura.eu.org/work/admin/ - doesn't load for me
1242399123 M * geb thanks, i was working on the server
1242399123 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection
1242399125 M * geb should be better now
1242399152 M * ben00001 how stable have you found that kernel?
1242399200 M * geb it was running 3 mounths without problems
1242399206 M * ben00001 i'm still compiling mine now!
1242399206 M * geb but you haven't any waranty :)
1242399222 M * ben00001 first time round i forgot to add in "initrd"
1242399229 M * ben00001 so it built an incomplete package
1242399270 M * ben00001 as i'm running (software) raid, i assume i would have to edit the initrd image to include the raid information on your kernel package
1242399314 M * geb the initrd should be rebuild when installing the package
1242399348 M * geb anyway if you want have a very rocksolid kernel accept Bertl proposal :)
1242399368 M * geb nobody here will make you a better kernel
1242399371 J * serge ~serge@LAubervilliers-153-53-1-14.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1242399384 M * ben00001 lol - we're still considering the Bertl offer
1242399395 M * ben00001 but I'm poor right now!
1242399467 M * serge Saluton, ĉu iu esperante parolas?
1242399483 M * Bertl serge: try english :)
1242399535 M * serge Sorry I don't speek english.
1242399544 A * ktwilight facepalm
1242399557 M * ktwilight i totally forgot that i had docs buried deep somewhere
1242399562 M * Bertl serge: we'll manage to 'understand' you
1242399565 M * ktwilight i make too many mundane mistakes :)
1242399593 M * Bertl serge: if all else fails, use google translate or similar
1242399806 M * ktwilight i wanna add this util-vserver installation guide for debian, any idea where i should put it?
1242399815 M * ktwilight in Installation_on_Linux_2.6?
1242399840 M * ktwilight or add a new page, but link it from Installation_on_Linux_2.6?
1242399868 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian maybe?
1242399903 M * Bertl Installation_on_Linux_2.6 is generic, i.e. distro independant
1242399931 M * serge La aliĝa retadreso de la dissendolisto "vserver-subscribe@list.linux-vserver.org" malbone funkcias.
1242399962 M * Bertl which reminds me .. Hollow: ping?
1242399984 M * ktwilight ah good point, didn't see that. thanks Bertl :)
1242400041 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.FireEgl.Com
1242400093 M * serge Ĝi malakceptas mian aliĝan peton.
1242400115 M * ben00001 http://tinyurl.com/q5nqyv - translate doesn't work well lol
1242400138 M * Bertl serge: please use a translation service in both directions
1242400208 M * serge I'm sorry I don't speek english, do you speek esperanto or french?
1242400341 M * serge I try to subscribe to the mailing list, but the service return a undelivered 511 message.
1242400565 M * Bertl most of us do neither know esperanto or french, but I got the ML problem, will relay it to the proper person
1242400608 M * Bertl serge: do you have a question for the ML? (it is also in english) or just want to read the archives?
1242400950 M * geb serge said that he has some questions for the list
1242400956 A * geb translate form /query
1242400959 M * geb from
1242401152 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B56DC.dip.t-dialin.net
1242401163 M * ben00001 quick question guys
1242401171 M * ben00001 new kernel in (29.2)
1242401172 M * ben00001 can not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implemented
1242401187 M * ben00001 ./proc/uptime can not be accessed.
1242401395 M * ben00001 how do I check that I haven't been a plumb and not enabled the linux-vserver extension in the kernel
1242401486 M * Bertl update the utils :)
1242401499 M * ben00001 where's the latest version stashed
1242401540 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/ (see wiki)
1242401695 M * ben00001 http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/stable/util-vserver-0.30.tar.bz2 ?
1242401701 M * ben00001 pretty sure im running 0.3
1242401714 M * ben00001 its got (0.30.216~r2772-6) on it right now
1242401737 M * ben00001 I can't see a newer version than that
1242401743 M * Bertl get the latest 0.30 snapshot
1242401770 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242401783 M * Bertl 0.30.216-pre2833
1242401816 M * ben00001 how can I check if I've actually built the kernel with vserver support
1242401820 M * ben00001 maybe I missed a flag?
1242401845 M * Bertl you cannot turn Linux-VServer off :)
1242401856 M * ben00001 I'm just wondering if maybe I compiled it wrong
1242401888 M * Bertl you might have selected the legacy stuff, but that contained a big fat warning ... OTOH, if you are missing the patch, then check with /proc/virtual/info
1242401913 M * ben00001 this is from my working kernel
1242401915 M * ben00001 VCIVersion:     0002:0303
1242401915 M * ben00001 VCISyscall:     236
1242401915 M * ben00001 VCIKernel:      13000ff1
1242401927 M * ben00001 its all gibberish to me lol
1242401930 M * Bertl :)
1242401944 M * Bertl but looks fine
1242401949 M * ben00001 But I rebooted into .26.2 - I need to reboot back into .29.2
1242401955 M * ben00001 let me restart and check
1242402046 M * geb Bertl, http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions_scratch#127.0.0.1_issues , do you have any opinion about that ? i remember that you told me "DONT USE THIS!" :)
1242402072 M * ben00001 Erm ...
1242402073 M * ben00001 [~]$ cat /proc/virtual/info
1242402074 M * ben00001 cat: /proc/virtual/info: No such file or directory
1242402074 M * Bertl yeah, don't use this! :)
1242402087 M * Bertl ben00001: so that kernel is not patched
1242402091 M * ben00001 I'm a lemon
1242402093 M * geb will add a "big fat warning" :)
1242402094 M * ben00001 how did I manage that
1242402109 M * Bertl geb: yes, please do and feel free to cite me :)
1242402236 M * ben00001 .... starting again :(
1242402455 M * ben00001 when running menuconfig - where is the option for Linux-vserver
1242402561 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1242402563 M * Bertl there is none, when you apply the patch, you get it 100% :)
1242402601 M * Bertl but you get a submenu to control various details ...
1242402623 M * ktwilight oh, .27.x is not patched with the pivot issue
1242402649 M * ktwilight Bertl, do you think you can spare some time to update .27.x patch?
1242402652 M * ben00001 sorry, ignore my stupidity, i've downloaded the kernel (http://linux-vserver.org/Welcome_to_Linux-VServer.org)
1242402657 M * Bertl is it affected at all?
1242402674 M * ktwilight just tried .27.21-vs2.3.0.36.4 and it's not working well with the latest util-vserver due to the pivot changes
1242402680 M * ktwilight not sure about other deltas though
1242402717 M * ben00001 do I need to download something else to make it work?
1242402750 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6
1242402768 M * Bertl (basically the patch, apply iy, build and isntall it, then boot it :)
1242402774 M * Bertl *it
1242402778 M * ben00001 Lol, just found that page now
1242402840 M * Bertl ktwilight: okay, will check when I finished with my server :)
1242402849 M * ktwilight yay thanks :)
1242402867 M * Bertl shouldn't take too long, I take it you are going to test it then?
1242402880 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions_scratch#127.0.0.1_issues is that too fat :) ?
1242402907 M * ben00001 so I want the (http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.29.2-vs2.3.0.36.10.diff)
1242402913 M * ktwilight Bertl, yup, will test it :)
1242402927 M * ktwilight gtg now though, will bbl to test it
1242402935 M * Bertl k,cya
1242402939 M * ktwilight thanks first!
1242402950 M * Bertl ben00001: actually I would suggest to go for the .12
1242403024 M * ben00001 its not on the downloads page - but I'll just key it in
1242403194 M * ben00001 yey, linux vserver options now
1242403250 M * ben00001 and sound support is on by default lol!
1242403285 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1242403287 M * ben00001 i take it, loading the config from the orignal (non-vserver) kernel on the system is likely to cause me problems.
1242403438 M * ben00001 compiling now ... this should take a while
1242403585 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1242403667 M * Bertl not really, but it won't be optimized for your system (the default used for Linux-VServer are sane)
1242403685 J * SlackLnx ~SlackWare@85.139.11.81
1242403810 M * ben00001 The only immediate diff. I've noticed is sound support is disabled lol
1242404033 A * SlackLnx hi \o
1242404850 J * ViRUS_ ~mp@p579B4F8F.dip.t-dialin.net
1242404962 M * ben00001 is it possible to tune the elevator algorithm whilst retaining data on the disk
1242404979 M * pmjdebruijn elevator?
1242404986 M * ben00001 for disk io
1242404992 M * pmjdebruijn elevator was 2.4
1242404998 M * pmjdebruijn 2.6 has pluggable io schedulers
1242405008 M * ben00001 oh !
1242405060 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1242405171 M * pmjdebruijn cfg or deadline should work fine for you
1242405176 M * pmjdebruijn CFQ I mean
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1242409581 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1242409585 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1242410927 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.130.131
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1242414278 M * ktwilight back and waiting :)
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1242418318 M * Supaplex heh
1242418522 J * sfreak ~sfreak@p5485FB5A.dip.t-dialin.net
1242418555 M * ktwilight anyone familiar with the nethash fix? am trying to port it to .27.23 but can't seem to get around it...
1242418575 M * ktwilight seems like the code change alot from .27 to .29
1242418590 M * ktwilight the patch could be irrelevant in .27 :/
1242418728 M * ktwilight aha, found it :)
1242418747 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1242418762 M * Bertl it isn't relevant
1242418773 M * ktwilight Bertl, but in line 170?
1242418808 M * Bertl of what file?
1242418812 M * ktwilight i'll paste
1242418844 A * Supaplex sets up a few sand bags just in case
1242418896 M * ktwilight Bertl, http://rafb.net/p/SzI8W135.html
1242418912 M * ktwilight trying to port back http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-nethash-fix01.diff
1242418930 M * ktwilight can't wait for you, so i thought, i'll go ahead and work on it :) have already patched the others, so...working down the other patches
1242419005 M * Bertl still doesn't apply :)
1242419040 M * ktwilight ah k
1242419048 M * ktwilight i'll scrap that then
1242419066 M * ktwilight Bertl, how would i know which delta is applicable?
1242419084 M * Bertl by understanding the code?
1242419101 A * ktwilight dunno enough kernel code :(
1242419142 M * ktwilight Bertl, could you maybe review this once i'm done?
1242419166 M * Bertl review it yourself .. here is the updated 2.6.27 version as promised
1242419170 M * Bertl patch-2.6.27.23-vs2.3.0.36.5.diff
1242419186 M * ktwilight ah k, thanks :) i'll cross check
1242419190 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.27.23-vs2.3.0.36.5.diff (actually)
1242419608 M * ktwilight :/ just spotted 3 delta patches that are different for .27
1242419623 A * ktwilight is amazed how you can keep track with the kernel changes
1242419861 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
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1242422078 M * Bertl ben00001: hey, how's going with the kernel?
1242422094 M * ktwilight hm, my kernel crashed. i wonder why...
1242422101 M * ktwilight uh, i meant it doesn't boot.
1242422115 M * Bertl ah, well, that's somewhat different :)
1242422127 M * Bertl upload the boot log (pastebin) I'll have a look
1242422128 M * ktwilight yea :)
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1242428338 Q * ViRUS_ Quit: If there is Artificial Intelligence, then there's bound to be some artificial stupidity. (Thomas Edison)
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1242431706 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1242431713 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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