1241835740 J * ousado_ ~johnny@frnk-5f743151.pool.einsundeins.de 1241836182 Q * ousado Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241840186 Q * arew264 Remote host closed the connection 1241840855 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1241850320 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1241850326 M * Bertl morning folks! 1241854856 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-246-80.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net 1241857198 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl 1241857202 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1241857891 Q * nerdpunk Quit: sigkill 1241858371 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1241859351 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1241860132 J * mcp ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1241860309 J * Piet ~piet@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1241860437 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1241862039 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241862461 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.146.131 1241863159 J * nerdpunk ~nerdpunk@2a01:198:2ee:0:206:7bff:fe04:623 1241864172 J * z0d ~z0d@artifact.hu 1241864175 M * z0d Hello 1241865265 J * larsivi_ ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com 1241865265 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1241865889 M * nerdpunk Bertl_oO: linux 2.6.27.23 and 2.6.29.3 are out... like to rediff the latter? there are some rejects in kernel/exit.c and kernel/fork.c, not so easy to resolve (for me at least) 1241868483 Q * opuk Quit: leaving 1241868692 J * opuk ~kupo@pipe.intertubez.net 1241869168 J * ousado__ ~johnny@frnk-5f743151.pool.einsundeins.de 1241869192 Q * ousado_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241870086 J * Keeper longhorn40@94.51.238.154 1241870108 M * Keeper hi 1241870113 M * Keeper to all 1241870511 M * Keeper As a guest environments does not work reboot? 1241870892 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1241871168 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-59-171.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1241873606 M * mnemoc hi, there is any tool/helper to turn /proc/virtual/$xid/status human readable? 1241873794 M * pmenier Hello 1241873842 M * pmenier http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12915 can i build a kernel-2.6.27.23 with patch 2.6.27.21 ? 1241874289 M * mnemoc pmenier: look at the .rej, they are probably very simple to adjust 1241874582 M * Keeper But still no patch for this version of the kernel 1241874621 M * pmenier mnemoc: yes for Makefile.rej no problem :) but i wanted to be sure for the other hunks.. 1241874910 Q * xdr Quit: leaving 1241875016 M * mnemoc pmenier: there is another reject in line 42 1241875049 M * pmenier yes but it seems related to mips architecture no ? I compil on i386... 1241875332 M * mnemoc beside /etc/vservers/builder/bcapabilities:CAP_MKNOD 1241875344 M * mnemoc and a partition mounted with 'dev' 1241875354 M * mnemoc what may one need to be able to mknod? :( 1241875543 M * pmenier you can't cp them from host ? 1241875574 M * mnemoc pmenier: i need to create nodes at will on that guest, it's a build server 1241875601 M * mnemoc and in all previous build (v)servers I have made those two things were enough 1241875728 M * mnemoc but this is teh first time I try with an ext4 partition... 1241875871 M * pmenier perhaps trying with all bcaps and remove them one by one... but i think you would not like :) 1241875981 M * mnemoc this set works fine on other (not much older) kernel/vserver versions 1241876004 M * mnemoc my doubt is if the CAPs are actually getting enabled 1241876041 M * mnemoc do you know anything to "translate" /proc/virtual/$xid/status into human? 1241876078 M * pmenier no sorry 1241876100 M * mnemoc :( 1241876167 M * zbyniu mnemoc: for mknod you need to unset CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE afair 1241876220 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1241876228 M * mnemoc CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE=y ow 1241876233 M * mnemoc zbyniu: thanks for the hint 1241876275 M * pmenier mnemoc: you can compare http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12916 with your bcaps 1241876278 M * zbyniu and capsh --decode=00000000344c05ff for translate bcapcabilities 1241876289 M * pmenier :) 1241876366 M * pmenier zbyniu: where do you get capsh ? 1241876384 M * zbyniu libcap >= 2 1241876392 M * pmenier thanks 1241876436 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.146.131 1241876437 M * mnemoc thanks :) 1241876461 M * zbyniu :) 1241876766 Q * opuk Quit: Lost terminal 1241876866 J * opuk ~kupo@pipe.intertubez.net 1241876943 M * Keeper You can do whatever with the establishment of Centos Guest not cleared cache yum? 1241877200 M * Keeper Because it turns out that every time when a guest environment CentOS, again you need to download the rpm 1241878020 M * Keeper understand how it works, thanks 1241879633 M * Keeper vserver vserver2 build -m yum --context 42 \ 1241879633 M * Keeper --hostname vserver2.mydomain.com \ 1241879633 M * Keeper --interface eth0:192.168.1.11/24 -- -d centos5 1241879649 M * Keeper Can not find file for '_DEV_FILE'; aborting 1241879792 M * zbyniu Keeper: mm, afaik, it was something like that: add %_netsharedpath /dev:/etc/rc.d/init.d/halt:/sbin/new-kernel-pkg:/usr/bin/rhgb-client in some rpm/macros file 1241879818 M * zbyniu and unset TMPDIR before build, that's all 1241879844 M * Keeper zbyniu: thanks 1241881314 M * Keeper zbyniu: TMPDIR for what? 1241881630 M * zbyniu unset TMPDIR; vserver vserver2 build ........ 1241881691 M * Keeper zbyniu: thanks 1241882888 M * Keeper zbyniu: How strange then, when I add my version of / etc / vservers / .distributions / it gives an error _DEV_FILE and when I use the default it works 1241883084 M * zbyniu Keeper: and did you add your definitions in /usr/lib{,64}/util-vserver/distributions ? 1241883113 M * Keeper zbyniu: I have a Gentoo Host 1241883221 M * Keeper zbyniu: So they need to add here and did you add your definitions in / usr / lib (, 64) / util-vserver/distributions not here / etc / vservers / .distributions? 1241883273 M * Keeper zbyniu: Sorry 1241883284 M * Keeper zbyniu: So they need to add here / usr / lib (, 64) / util-vserver/distributions not here / etc / vservers / .distributions? 1241883527 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1241883591 M * zbyniu Keeper: I didn't create by myself but i see definitions of guests in /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions 1241884691 M * Keeper zbyniu: thanks 1241884697 M * Keeper zbyniu: work 1241885014 M * zbyniu :) 1241888143 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.146.131 1241888307 M * Keeper Very flexible, the system and most importantly, all can be changed to your liking 1241888756 M * Keeper zbyniu: Thank you for your help, very glad that there are such responsive 1241888839 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: also, vattribute --get --xid 1241889059 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: thanks! 1241889078 M * mnemoc mknod is there.... 1241889107 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: do you think my mknod problem may be fs-related? (first time I try ext4) 1241889211 M * Keeper daniel_hozac: Hello, it is whether you can disable the update in a guest environment with the use of vupdateworld --all 1241889245 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-24-227.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1241889250 M * geb hi 1241889252 M * zbyniu Keeper: np :) 1241889291 M * zbyniu mnemoc: do you want mknod only some well defined devices? 1241889340 M * mnemoc zbyniu: yes, but I don't want to need to alter the system building tools 1241889416 M * zbyniu you can add them to device mappings 1241889427 M * mnemoc i do vserver in this case to be able to limit resources and to not harm if is install crap (wrong architecture and stuff) in / instead of the sandbox 1241889435 M * mnemoc not because I would fear to be hacked 1241889458 M * mnemoc device mappings? 1241889521 M * zbyniu see http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1241889534 M * zbyniu and search /etc/vservers/vserver-name/apps/vdevmap there 1241889563 M * zbyniu but if you want to create MANY devs it's PITA 1241889565 M * mnemoc thanks, i never saw that before 1241889583 M * zbyniu then disable CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE in kernel config 1241889647 M * mnemoc i'll really have to give a read to all "new" CONFIG_VSERVER_ stuff 1241889713 M * Keeper zbyniu: You can do whatever tun and tap added by default for each guest system? 1241889776 M * Keeper zbyniu: /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps? 1241889805 M * mnemoc can "Device Mapping" be disabled per-guest? 1241889828 M * zbyniu yes, /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vdevmap I don't know other solution 1241889919 M * zbyniu mnemoc: No, AFAIK 1241889977 M * Keeper zbyniu: Guest system can not reboot from the inside? 1241890086 M * zbyniu Keeper: oh, I don't know, it was changing in past, may also depends on guest system 1241890266 M * Keeper zbyniu: Unfortunately a reboot from the guest system I can not, I tried but could not so that it did... Although it is a pity that there is no such possibility, it would be very handy 1241890781 M * zbyniu Keeper: I use only from outside but yes - sometimes it is handy 1241891252 M * Keeper zbyniu: For what purpose do you use Vserver? 1241891612 M * zbyniu to separate services, to have other system inside 1241891647 J * doener ~doener@i59F56BE3.versanet.de 1241891714 M * Keeper zbyniu: Vserver is very interesting conceived, much more interesting OpenVZ 1241891753 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241891851 M * Keeper zbyniu: Do Vserver wider range of opportunities and support for modern kernels, it is important 1241892002 M * zbyniu openvz has ugly support; version for 2.6.20 it was patch restoring important changes to .18(!) because they didn't make patches for current kernel then... 1241892117 M * zbyniu that is more important in long run then features 1241892245 M * Keeper zbyniu: First, I used OpenVZ, but the functionality of the old core of the main negative here, besides the standard quota support was not properly made, the only plus is support for iptables in the guest environments 1241892311 M * zbyniu yes, better network separation is only important plus of openvz 1241892699 J * yarihm ~yarihm@adsl-68-124-30-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net 1241892791 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1241892845 J * Piet ~piet@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1241893371 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-122-26.tukw.qwest.net 1241893462 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241894037 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1241895086 M * Bertl_oO zbyniu: note that recent kernels provide network namespaces which basically aim to provide full network virtualization (and they work with Linux-VServer too :) 1241895193 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: you can set the defaults to let the guest create arbitrary device nodes. 1241895247 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: -vv 1241895287 M * daniel_hozac see vdevmap --help. 1241895304 M * daniel_hozac should be pretty straight-forward to translate that into the configuration structure required. 1241895332 M * mnemoc thx 1241895342 M * mnemoc i didn't know that command either 1241895383 M * daniel_hozac Keeper: properly setup guests have no problem rebooting from the inside. 1241895400 M * zbyniu Bertl_oO: yes, but I don't belive it's ready&stable in kernel, I more trust in your code ;) 1241895457 M * Keeper Bertl_oO: zbyniu, the latest version of the kernel support for User namespace, PID Namespaces 1241895921 M * Keeper zbyniu: There is the option which will copy the files "/ etc / vservers / / uts" in depending on the Guest OS using? 1241895983 M * Keeper daniel_hozac: thanks 1241896140 M * Keeper daniel_hozac: There is the option which will copy the files "/ etc / vservers / / uts" in depending on the Guest OS using? 1241896166 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: what's the syntax for "arbitrary device" ? 0.30.215 says "Device and target are missing;" :( 1241896246 M * zbyniu Keeper: probably is but I don't know without searching 1241896253 M * mnemoc and '*' gives vc_set_mapping(): No such file or directory 1241896256 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: mkdir char; pushd char; touch open create; echo /dev/null > target; popd; mkdir block; pushd block; touch open create; echo /dev/loop0 > target; popd 1241896305 M * mnemoc .oO 1241896306 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: kinda funky, but it works. 1241896356 M * mnemoc inside /etc/vservers/whatever/apps/vdevmap ? 1241896360 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1241896411 M * Keeper very good 1241896811 M * mnemoc root@builder:/dev# mknod null2 c 1 3 1241896811 M * mnemoc mknod: `null2': Operation not permitted 1241896814 M * mnemoc :( 1241896841 M * daniel_hozac and it's got CAP_MKNOD? 1241897463 M * Keeper What you need to include to work with OpenVPN, and tun, tap devices? 1241897798 M * Keeper NET_ADMIN, and access for tap, tun 1241898102 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: yup, and vattribute confirms it 1241898141 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: it seems i'll have to change the kernel image anyway :| 1241898940 M * daniel_hozac Keeper: nothing. just use ifconfig-noexec and route-noexec, and set up the tun/tap interface with util-vserver. 1241898972 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: your util-vserver version does handle /etc/vservers//apps/vdevmap when you restart it, right? 1241899151 M * Keeper daniel_hozac: thanks 1241899166 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1241899551 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: at least I got a vc_set_mapping error when stopping it after creating the apps/vdevmap/* stuff 1241899568 M * daniel_hozac and none when you started? 1241899571 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: and I do have the helpers (It's .215 release) 1241899575 M * mnemoc yup, none on start 1241899750 M * Keeper Bertl_oO: This small patch for the kernel, and so many opportunities Well done! 1241899944 M * Keeper Bertl_oO: I saw a Russian conference on VServer it talked about the main pros VServer compared to other similar systems ... It was interesting to hear how people admire your work 1241901548 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.207.134 1241902186 J * Floops[w]2 ~baihu@205.214.201.176 1241902581 Q * Floops[w]1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241903697 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1241903752 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: I have my new kernel (with devmap and vtime disabled) ready for uploading, do you want me to test something with the current to find why it's not working before replacing? 1241903944 M * Keeper Thanks to all who answered the questions, and those who developed the project in this and those who helped them develop 1241904253 M * Keeper Good luck to all 1241904370 Q * Keeper Quit: Keeper 1241906301 J * floopsie ~baihu@65.48.175.249 1241906681 Q * floopsy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241907121 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1241908849 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1241909219 J * Piet ~piet@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1241910937 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c207245.adsl.hansenet.de 1241911344 Q * saulus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241911354 N * saulus_ SauLus 1241911398 J * eleazarf ~eleazarf@cablelink25-198.telefonia.intercable.net 1241911422 Q * eleazarf 1241911985 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1241912797 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241913544 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/