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1241505831 M * litw Hi all, I cannot use vserver with rhel5.1(IA-64). Could anyone give me some suggestions?
1241506064 M * pmjdebruijn I'm guessing vserver doesn't compile on Itanium
1241506072 M * pmjdebruijn litw: IA-64 is pretty obscure...
1241506102 M * pmjdebruijn litw: stick around for others to response
1241506108 A * pmjdebruijn only has experience with x86
1241506357 M * litw It can be compiled with some slight changes.
1241506379 M * kcodyjr it's fundamentally 64-bit clean, works fine on amd64
1241506384 M * kcodyjr more likely an RHEL problem
1241506397 M * kcodyjr note the substring: 'HEL'
1241506440 M * litw But when I create a new vs, failed.
1241506469 M * kcodyjr path issue? is the error message at all informative?
1241506680 M * pmjdebruijn oh sweet... 2.6.27.22/2.6.28.10 were released
1241506697 M * litw kcodyjr, I use linux-2.6.28.9 and the corresponding patch. 
1241506763 M * kcodyjr said path, not patch. i'm thinking a userspace issue.
1241506817 M * litw to pmjdebruijn, are there any special options of kernel should be selected?
1241506850 M * litw to kcodyjr, seems like something wrong with kernel..
1241506912 M * kcodyjr what's the symptom. more detail is needed than 'it failed'
1241507121 M * litw to kcodyjr, output of testme.sh: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12855
1241507342 M * kcodyjr you have a mismatch of build options in your kernel vs your userspace
1241507350 M * kcodyjr turn on the legacy api options in the kernel config, rebuild, and reboot
1241507460 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr
1241507517 M * litw 2kcodyjr, Yes! the legacy api options!!!
1241507553 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1241507600 M * litw Are there legacy api options in 2.6.28.9?
1241507724 M * litw I can use vserver on my pc with fc9, but I cannot find out some legacy api options in the config file in use.
1241507752 M * kcodyjr apparently not. update your userspace?
1241507808 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net
1241507829 M * kcodyjr i'm out of ideas.
1241507855 M * litw You give me the same suggetion as Bertl
1241507877 M * litw The utils-vserver is lastest..
1241507900 M * kcodyjr perhaps the problem isn't directly with vserver, but with some other user<->kernel interface
1241507906 M * kcodyjr try an strace to see what it's really doing
1241508047 M * litw 2kcodyjr, thanks a lot.
1241508130 M * litw I don't think I can make it work..
1241508228 M * kcodyjr remember rhel5.1 runs a much earlier kernel than that. the problem could be anywhere...
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1241508408 M * litw I've used the 2.6.28.9 with the rest of rhel5.1 on my server for several months.
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1241508753 M * litw Do some developers of vserver appear here?
1241508986 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6
1241509060 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-240-82.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no
1241509643 M * fb litw: Bertl is main developer
1241509677 M * fb litw: and daniel_hozac, who works also on util-vserver
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1241511630 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1241511635 M * Bertl morning folks!
1241511702 M * Bertl litw: can you upload the output of 'testme.sh' and 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' to a pastebin?
1241511743 M * Bertl ah, seems I found the testme.sh, now I just need the other one
1241511787 M * fb morning Bertl!
1241511902 M * Bertl litw: and what does 'cat /proc/virtual/info' and 'uname -a' give you?
1241512324 M * litw Bertl: I'm so glad to finally meet you!
1241512384 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71
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1241512496 M * litw To bertl, here is output of vserver-info: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12908
1241512569 M * litw To bertl, /proc/virtual/info: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12909
1241512573 M * litw uname -a
1241512598 J * PowerKe ~tom@d5153A5EC.access.telenet.be
1241512621 M * litw To bertl, uname -a: Linux vstest 2.6.28.9-vs2.3.0.36.10 #1 SMP Thu Apr 30 08:40:39 CST 2009 ia64 ia64 ia64 GNU/Linux
1241512643 M * Mr_Smoke Mo'in
1241512668 M * Bertl litw: first, you are missing dietlibc, and you have been warned :)
1241512675 M * Mr_Smoke Just for the record .... how stable is 2.3 now ? is it going "stable" anytime soon or is this going to wait for possible kernel inclusion ?
1241512694 M * Bertl no, we do not wait for mainline inclusion
1241512709 M * Bertl it will become 'devel' really soon now, I hope
1241512727 M * Mr_Smoke Hm ok :)
1241512733 M * Bertl once there, we will chat about features for the next stable (2.4 release)
1241512758 M * Mr_Smoke IS it not devel yet then ?
1241512767 M * Bertl the stable branches are supposed to work for years, so some planning and testing beyond the normal is required
1241512807 M * Bertl it is labeled experimental, but keep in mind that _all_ mainline kernels are considered 'devel' or 'experimental' here
1241512812 M * Mr_Smoke Ah ok
1241512836 M * Mr_Smoke It's just that 2.3.0.34 is listed as "development", hence my confusion, but I get the picture
1241512930 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1241512938 M * litw Bertl, I tought it was just a warn. I'm going to install the lib.
1241512939 M * Bertl it is 2.3.0.34.11 :)
1241512961 M * Bertl oops, 36.11 I mean :)
1241513003 M * Bertl litw: I doubt that is the reason for your issues, but it would be a good idea to install it anyway
1241513032 M * Bertl litw: what was the reason for 2.6.28.x instead of 2.6.29.x?
1241513049 M * litw Yes, I'm compiling it..
1241513208 M * litw I've done some other works base on 2.6.28.9-vs2.3.0.36.10
1241513220 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1241513428 M * pmjdebruijn 2.3.0.36.10 seems to apply cleanly to 2.6.28.10
1241513470 M * Bertl litw: is there a problem with using 2.6.28.10 for example?
1241513533 M * litw Bertl, I think it's ok ;)
1241513556 M * Bertl good, let me upload an updated patch with all the fixes since for that version and give it a try, yes?
1241513611 M * litw That's good!
1241515112 M * Bertl litw: hmm, let's try something else first: please get this tool: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/vcmd-0.13.tar.bz2 and build it (make should do)
1241515237 M * litw I met a question with dietlibc
1241515269 M * Bertl yep?
1241515277 M * litw I've installed the libc, but the warning still exist
1241515308 M * Bertl did you rebuild util-vserver?
1241515341 M * litw -_-'' my fault.
1241515467 M * litw What should I do first? rebuild utils-vserver Or install vcmd-0.13.tar.bz2?
1241515522 M * Bertl the vmcd should be quick
1241515526 M * Bertl *vcmd
1241515584 M * litw Ok
1241515775 M * litw Compiled successfully, then
1241515818 M * derjohn Bertl, /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd is there on newer guests, but not in "older" guests (i.e. installed some time ago). Was there a bug in the (debian) utils which caused that behavior ?
1241515864 M * Bertl derjohn: I do not remember a time when there was _no_ bug in the debian utils ... that's why they a deprecated since years
1241515920 M * Bertl *they are
1241516026 M * litw Bertl, the output of vcmd without any arguments: vserver: Function not implemented
1241516211 M * derjohn Bertl, i'll do "ln -s /dev/fd /proc/self/fd" on the old ones and dont care any further :)
1241516248 M * derjohn * ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/fd
1241516304 M * Bertl yeah, the latter one is preferable :)
1241516343 M * Bertl litw: okay, that's not so good, please run it with strace -fF ./vcmd
1241516408 M * Bertl (and upload the output to the pastebin)
1241516464 M * litw Bertl, it's here: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12910
1241516700 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-14-55.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr
1241516700 M * Bertl okay, you have the source of your kernel at hand, yes?
1241516714 M * litw Bertl, yes
1241516778 M * Bertl run 'grep vserver arch/ia64/kernel/*' and paste the two output lines please ...
1241516789 M * Bertl (in the kernel source tree)
1241516834 M * litw Ok( it's still  2.6.28.9-...)
1241516842 M * Bertl yeah, that's fine
1241516934 M * geb hi
1241516965 M * litw Bertl, arch/ia64/kernel/entry.S:       data8 sys_vserver
1241516986 M * litw arch/ia64/kernel/fsys.S:        data8 0                         // vserver
1241517014 M * Bertl that looks good .. the question now is, why does it still give ENOSYS
1241517078 M * Bertl litw: did you enable VSERVER_DEBUG in your kernel config?
1241517086 M * litw Let me see
1241517137 M * litw No, but I'd like to rebuild kernel now
1241517180 M * litw Do you need that?
1241517220 M * Bertl yes, please enable it and get the latest patch for 2.6.28 or 29
1241517245 M * Bertl (vs2.3.0.36.11 in any case)
1241517301 M * litw Ok, I will notice you when finished
1241517475 M * litw Bertl, how to get vs2.3.0.36.11? I can't fint it at http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads
1241517519 M * derjohn Bertl, the delta between .10 and .11 only "delta-ptimer-fix01.diff" ? how important is that fix?
1241517535 M * derjohn (currently I use vs2.3.0.36.10 on 2.6.28.9)
1241517676 M * Bertl depends, if you use kvm or similar, it might hang a cpu or two :)
1241517719 M * Bertl (for normal operation, it isn't relevant)
1241517735 M * sid3windr cpu's are cheap these days...
1241517735 M * sid3windr :p
1241517867 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1241518149 M * Bertl litw: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/ExperimentalT/patch-2.6.28.10-vs2.3.0.36.11.diff
1241518291 J * doener ~doener@i59F5BA62.versanet.de
1241518670 M * litw Bertl, It's for 2.6.28.10... ok, patch kernel first..
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1241519567 M * geb i have two question about vunify/hashify: 1) is it possible to use the COW mechanisms (link breaking) outside of a vserver (for some files on the host) ?
1241519627 M * geb 2) wasn't somebody working on a fs inspired by this mechanism (i don't find the website anymore) ?
1241519669 M * Bertl 1) basically yes, and it will also work on the host, but you can circumvent it (as root)
1241519703 M * Bertl 2) yes, but such an implementation would be quite complicated .. so I doubt it will be done anytime soon
1241519859 M * geb thanks :)
1241519927 M * geb i refind the link ( aufs.sf.net) but it isn't really what i thought
1241520095 M * mnemoc http://www.digitalinfra.co.jp/20080720/hashfs.20081006.html
1241520120 M * mnemoc but seems abandoned
1241520206 M * derjohn Bertl, thanks, as I use it inside xen ("kvm similar"?), I think an upgrade makes sense ;)
1241520348 M * geb thanks mnemoc !
1241520540 M * geb it doesn't looks so old
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1241528127 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1241528135 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1241538685 M * Keeper Hi
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1241539188 M * Keeper Can somebody help me out in some settings
1241539332 M * Keeper Why configure /etc/vservers/<vserver-name>/cpuset - and how can they be used?
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1241547903 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1241547907 M * Bertl back now ...
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1241563224 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have fun!
1241563228 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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