1241309402 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241315942 J * [1]nwmcsween ~nwmcsween@69.176.164.57 1241316332 Q * nwmcsween Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241316332 N * [1]nwmcsween nwmcsween 1241316363 N * nwmcsween Guest488 1241317771 J * ousado_ ~johnny@frnk-5f747656.pool.einsundeins.de 1241318181 Q * ousado Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241318678 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241320217 Q * allquixotic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241321210 J * allquixotic_ ~sean@pool-151-196-238-66.balt.east.verizon.net 1241324716 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1241325168 Q * allquixotic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241325200 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1241325495 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1241326316 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241327845 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1241332402 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.190.35 1241339389 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1241340416 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1241340438 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1241341731 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-246-80.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net 1241345113 J * Keeper longhorn40@188.17.1.203 1241345193 Q * Keeper 1241345667 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-151-196-238-66.balt.east.verizon.net 1241348316 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1241348675 Q * danman Read error: Connection reset by peer 1241348902 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu 1241352359 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-173-118.tukw.qwest.net 1241352581 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241352593 Q * dentifrice Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241352803 Q * allquixotic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241353180 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1241353724 J * dentifrice ceb3586f5f@91.194.60.102 1241353976 Q * scientes Quit: scientes 1241354691 J * Keeper longhorn40@188.17.1.203 1241354741 M * Keeper hi to all 1241354861 M * Keeper How can I mount a file in the guest environment /proc? 1241355000 Q * dentifrice Remote host closed the connection 1241355001 J * dentifrice cd808978e9@91.194.60.102 1241355056 Q * danman Read error: Connection reset by peer 1241355151 Q * DLange Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241355241 M * Keeper Opportunities for VServer much, but I'd like that would be the thread who shared their experiences on their practice in VServer 1241355533 M * pmjdebruijn Keeper: "How can I mount a file in the guest environment /proc?" that question doesn't make sense, could you please reformulate? 1241355558 J * doener ~doener@i59F5A4EE.versanet.de 1241355678 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu 1241355700 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Sorry I do not speak English... You can mount your files in the guest /proc? 1241355730 J * phedny ~mark@phedny.vps.van-cuijk.nl 1241355768 M * pmjdebruijn Keeper: sorry, like I said, that doesn't make sense 1241355784 M * pmjdebruijn Keeper: what do you wish to accomplish and why? 1241355839 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Modify the file cpuinfo in a guest environment 1241355858 M * pmjdebruijn what does that have to do with mounting? 1241355867 M * pmjdebruijn Keeper: why do you want to modify it? 1241355973 Q * dentifrice Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241356023 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Edit vendor_id and model name 1241356116 M * pmjdebruijn because? 1241356162 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: It has no hidden intention simply cosmetic changes 1241356212 M * pmjdebruijn well no... there's no sensible reason to do that, so it's not a feature 1241356281 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: But it is possible? 1241356302 M * pmjdebruijn I don't think so 1241356314 M * pmjdebruijn why would anybody bother... 1241356387 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241356432 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: I already knew how to do this thanks to that responded 1241356524 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Vserver amazing system 1241356636 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Do you have what may be articles about Vserver? 1241356772 M * pmjdebruijn huh? 1241356909 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: I can not understand 1241356933 M * pmjdebruijn never mind 1241356962 M * Keeper pmjdebruijn: Ok 1241357057 M * Keeper Good luck 1241357074 Q * Keeper Quit: Keeper 1241357105 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-173-118.tukw.qwest.net 1241357205 Q * scientes Remote host closed the connection 1241357213 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-173-118.tukw.qwest.net 1241357271 Q * scientes Remote host closed the connection 1241357420 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-173-118.tukw.qwest.net 1241358068 Q * scientes Quit: scientes 1241358071 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-173-118.tukw.qwest.net 1241358469 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1241361193 J * scientes_ ~scientes@97-113-123-177.tukw.qwest.net 1241361531 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241361589 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-151-196-238-66.balt.east.verizon.net 1241361770 Q * allquixotic Remote host closed the connection 1241362091 J * allquixotic ~sean@pool-151-196-238-66.balt.east.verizon.net 1241362412 J * dentifrice 0e8be021e5@91.194.60.102 1241362541 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net 1241362541 J * scientes__ ~scientes@97-113-123-180.tukw.qwest.net 1241362654 M * daniel_hozac pmjdebruijn: it's totally possible, just mount your modified file on top of it. 1241362765 M * pmjdebruijn ok 1241362768 A * pmjdebruijn shudders 1241362937 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241363706 J * scientes_ ~scientes@97-113-123-184.tukw.qwest.net 1241364021 Q * scientes__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241364603 Q * danman Read error: Connection reset by peer 1241365137 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu 1241365821 J * dwery ~dwery@93-39-57-60.ip74.fastwebnet.it 1241366335 Q * scientes_ Remote host closed the connection 1241366349 J * scientes ~scientes@97-113-123-184.tukw.qwest.net 1241367684 J * scientes_ ~scientes@97-113-123-201.tukw.qwest.net 1241368049 P * virtuoso 1241368071 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241368099 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1241369483 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-11-83.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1241371671 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1241371727 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1241371743 M * Bertl evening folks! 1241371792 M * hparker Evening Bertl 1241371792 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, does a recent util-vserver version support 'file' level bind mounts? and if yes, since what version? 1241373081 Q * scientes_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241373168 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1241373214 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F5A5A2.versanet.de 1241373318 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241373486 M * daniel_hozac no, that's still bugged. 1241377093 J * Piet ~piet@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1241377382 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1241378196 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1241379939 M * dwery Bertl: hi, haven't forgot vserver ;) 1241379952 M * dwery I was studying the code... got a question 1241379960 M * dwery why is the magic for sysfs changed? 1241379976 M * Bertl it isn't changed, just moved 1241379994 M * dwery just a define name change then 1241379995 M * dwery ok 1241380011 M * Bertl moved, so that it can be included 1241380050 M * dwery nice. I also noticed there's a pre4 fr .29.. I was at pre2 1241380053 M * dwery will rty it 1241380076 M * Bertl well, we have a release by now, but apply the patch 1241380088 M * Bertl (will upload an update shortly) 1241380105 M * dwery is the release any different from pre4? 1241380347 M * Bertl yes, it contains the fixes we did since :) 1241380358 M * dwery d'oh! 1241380361 M * dwery that's nice 1241380362 M * dwery :D 1241380391 M * dwery I guess Ill wait for the release then! 1241380422 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.29.2-vs2.3.0.36.10.diff plus http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-ptimer-fix01.diff should be fine 1241380458 M * dwery ty! 1241380583 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1241382311 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1241388331 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241388520 M * bzed Bertl: do you plan to call 2.3 stable soon? :) 1241388729 M * Guy- I guess that would be premature - the underlying kernel at least is far from stable... 1241388768 M * Guy- so calling anything based on it 'stable' would give the wrong impression, I think 1241389061 M * bzed I doubt that will change for the kernel 1241389121 M * Guy- well, things did settle down a bit with 2.6.22 after maybe 2.6.22.16 oslt :) 1241389643 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.27 is long-term maintained, so that seems like a good foundation. 1241389696 Q * ousado_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241390475 Q * allquixotic Remote host closed the connection 1241391456 M * Bertl bzed: we'll see, but it won't be 2.3 :) 1241392191 M * dentifrice has some vserver code been merged into the linux kernel, and will the vserver patch be fully integrated somewhere in the future, like it is planned for openvz? 1241392337 M * Bertl how did you arrive at the conclusion that a full integration of OVZ is planned? 1241392396 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1241392396 M * daniel_hozac neither project is being merged. 1241392548 M * Bertl dentifrice: to answer the 'original' question, yes, a bunch of isolation mechanisms Linux-VServer uses since 7+ years have been re-implemented in mainline (so you could consider them 'merged') 1241392594 M * dentifrice Bertl: thanks 1241392603 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c193123.adsl.hansenet.de 1241392613 M * dentifrice Bertl: when gathering info about openvz a few months ago, 1241392629 M * dentifrice Bertl: it looked like developpers were actively working towards inclusion in mainline 1241392646 M * dentifrice and some of them looked confident that it would happen, if I remember correctly 1241392691 M * dentifrice but since the vserver code has been re-implemented in mainline, does that mean there's no cooperation whatsoever? 1241392691 M * Bertl yeah, well, it is a goal of the company behind OVZ to 'outsource' the kernel part 'into' mainline 1241392713 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1241392713 N * saulus_ SauLus 1241392808 M * Bertl dentifrice: we do not spend a lot of time on rewriting perfectly fine code over and over till every mainline developer agrees with it, we focus on actual development and testing ... 1241392851 M * Bertl dentifrice: besides that, mainline cannot merge any of the isolation projects (for political reasons) 1241392878 M * dentifrice Bertl: political? 1241392895 M * dentifrice Bertl: let me guess, they think you're too left-wing :) 1241392907 M * Bertl something like that :) 1241392926 M * dentifrice hehe 1241392953 M * dentifrice but can some of the code OVZ pushes be used by linux-vserver too? 1241393002 J * floopsy ~baihu@65.48.175.249 1241393006 M * bzed does anybody want that? even the openVZ developers consider everything they did after 1.6.18 as not stable... 1241393017 M * Bertl dentifrice: the function is quite similar, but I would not want to use the OVZ code, because it is far from lean or readable 1241393048 M * bzed s/1.6/2.6/ 1241393060 M * dentifrice Bertl: yet it's been welcomed into mainline?! 1241393114 M * Bertl as I said, the implementation in mainline has not much in common with the OVZ code, although the OVZ folks might want you to believe that 1241393129 M * dentifrice ok 1241393199 Q * floopsie Read error: Connection reset by peer 1241393248 M * Bertl and to answer the 'implict' question here: we do make good use of all the mainline virtualization technologies as soon as they become 'useable' 1241394703 M * mugwump did anything happen with that dude who seemed keen to lkml-ify vserver changes? 1241394722 M * Bertl yeah, he vanished :) 1241394740 M * mugwump I don't know, these people who seem keen then disappear once the actual work begins... 1241394744 A * mugwump looks around sheepishly 1241394831 M * Bertl yeah :) .. anyway ... off to bed now ... have fun! 1241394838 A * mugwump waves 1241394840 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1241395196 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving