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1240449806 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr
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1240455215 J * Williams ~Williams@123.127.250.67
1240455249 Q * Williams 
1240455498 J * litw ~litw@123.127.250.67
1240457373 M * litw Hi all! When I use "vserver vs1 build ...", I got "/usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/vs1: Function not implemented". Is there a tutorial about using vserver on rhel? Any hints are appreciated.
1240457748 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1240457779 M * mugwump does anyone know of a linux privilege escalation bug that affected vserver in its default config?
1240458541 M * mugwump or already investigated the recent ksplice or udev exploits?
1240460349 M * Supaplex mugwump: I don't expect udev to run in guests. the suggested secure way has always been to create manual device nodes, any only a very few of them.  how recent for ksplice? there was one months ago, but vserver provided minimal at best protection from that. if your main kernel is ksplice fixed, then vserver should be just as safe.
1240460419 M * mugwump but I mean, was ksplice protected by capabilities on most vserver setups?
1240460420 M * Supaplex litw: is your kernel running the vserver patch?
1240460452 M * mugwump I'm guessing it would have needed cap_sys_admin to not return with EPERM
1240460494 M * Supaplex I vaguely recall something daniel_hozac mentioned. I know Bertl_zZ and him looked at it.  I don't recall the outcome of that conversation.
1240460558 M * mugwump See, whenever I've looking into such an exploit they didn't work in vserver
1240460590 M * mugwump either because they required creating a /dev node, some bad /proc or /sys entry point, or they needed some capability
1240460612 M * Supaplex I think they modified the POC code for more testing.  I'm 3% sure the in the eaisly available code didn't do anything.
1240460632 M * Supaplex it was using system.map to determine a function reference to abuse
1240464800 M * litw capset(): Invalid argument mean what?
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1240465625 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-240-82.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no
1240469007 J * litw ~litw@123.127.250.67
1240470875 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71
1240470922 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1240470927 M * Bertl morning folks!
1240470963 M * Bertl litw: start with running testme.sh, if that fails, upload the output as well as the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' to a pastebin
1240470964 M * fb hello Bertl!
1240470998 M * fb your patches did the trick, if you missed that info
1240471013 M * Bertl Supaplex: I presume your addresses changed, find the base address and do the offset (+b)
1240472143 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6
1240472586 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@host156-36-static.14-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1240472669 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net
1240472915 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1240474500 J * Yishuai ~chenyishu@222.35.252.14
1240474528 M * Yishuai Could you please send me a test.sh? the website link always timeout.
1240474532 M * Yishuai Thank you very much!
1240474616 M * Yishuai my email is chenyishuai@gmail.com
1240474641 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh
1240474653 M * Yishuai yes. I tried.
1240474666 M * Bertl if that times out for you, then your network is misconfigured
1240474698 M * Bertl maybe a firewall which allows syn, but no follow up packets, or a bad MTU
1240474717 M * Yishuai I can look at the http://vserver.13thfloor.at
1240474775 M * Yishuai I am in China
1240474810 M * Bertl so the goverment? blocks Linux-VServer scripts .. nice :)
1240474832 M * Yishuai super. thanks!
1240474836 M * Bertl okay, I'll send it to you
1240474857 M * Yishuai thanks litw too!
1240474887 M * Bertl litw: could you put the stuff on a pastebin, please?
1240475101 M * Bertl litw: either that or paste.linux-vserver.org
1240475165 M * Yishuai I run the testme.sh. It fails. The result in http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12851
1240475201 M * Yishuai I use CentOS5.2. Could you please help me?
1240475232 M * Bertl you need to isntall a Linux-VServer patched kernel first
1240475264 M * Yishuai where I can find the how-to? :)
1240475266 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6
1240475321 M * Bertl you might be able to use the centos packages though:
1240475324 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_CentOS
1240475371 J * esa bip@62.123.8.119
1240475378 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr
1240475379 M * litw Bertl, http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12852
1240475430 M * Yishuai Get it. Bertl: Thank you very much! 
1240475439 M * Bertl litw: that looks good, you might want to update util-vserver to a recent version
1240475446 M * Bertl Yishuai: great!
1240475863 Q * bourgeau Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240475997 M * litw Bertl: the version of util-vserver is 0.30.215. I will update it to 216 and try again.
1240476456 J * geb ~geb@87-98-134-86.kimsufi.com
1240476463 M * Supaplex Bertl: base address? how?
1240476473 M * Supaplex how do I find it, that is.
1240476567 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1240476627 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-135-134.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
1240477310 M * Bertl Supaplex: remember what we did yesterday? you found the base address in the System.map (from the booted kernel) which was just below the reported EIP
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1240477420 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2009-04/LOG_2009-04-22.txt @1240388001
1240477479 M * Bertl so, you are looking for the 'new' address of free_vx_info now (in your rebuilt kernel) and the offset 0x0b
1240477536 M * Supaplex the kernel screenshot told us it's free_vx_info. humm okay. find that from system.map and add 0x0b to figure out where in the function it triggered the bug?
1240477549 M * Bertl precisely
1240477678 M * Supaplex kernel/vserver/context.c:197 badda bing. now to look at that code. :)
1240477703 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192098.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240477753 M * Supaplex http://rafb.net/p/aT7WOE29.html
1240477867 M * litw Hi Bertl, what do you think about MNT_DETACH?
1240477923 M * Bertl very useful mount option :)
1240477935 M * litw 1o1 ...
1240478009 M * Bertl Supaplex: yeah, looks like _something_ is having a reference on that context, when it is freed, IIRC, we fixed that some time ago .. so I would consider that resolved on a newer kernel
1240478037 M * Supaplex okay. that was fun chasing it. I kept local notes so I can do similar in the future. :)
1240478041 M * Bertl (was one of those reorder patches, if you are interested)
1240478045 M * Supaplex thanks
1240478072 M * Supaplex any caveats in lenny vserver+kernels?
1240478073 M * Bertl np, if you see that on a recent kernel, please report immediately ...
1240478092 M * Bertl you mean, mainline/vanilla kernels?
1240478143 M * Bertl usually there are no issues whatsoever on _any_ distro, if you build your own kernel and util-vserver ... unless the toolchain is broken (we had that with ubuntu :)
1240478206 M * Supaplex I forget the reasons why, but I think I stick to the ones debian provides, as the community is usually more helpful if I have suspected kernel issues.
1240478214 M * Supaplex (their community etc)
1240478302 M * Supaplex hummmmm
1240478656 M * geb Bertl, can you precise for ubuntu ? (was talking with somebody who tell me about switch from debian to ubuntu for vserver)
1240478662 J * thierryp ~thierry@zircon.inria.fr
1240478880 M * Bertl Supaplex: whatever fits your needs and makes you happy :)
1240478923 M * Bertl geb: I think the issues are mostly resolved by now, but there were problems with dietlibc and the gcc/ld they used producing broken kernels/util-vserver
1240478979 M * geb thanks :)
1240479077 M * Supaplex if you were a molex powe splitter in my home, where would you be hiding. hummm.....
1240479099 M * Bertl IMHO, the current problem with debian is, that they stick to their 'broken' versions and call them stable, while ubuntu uses bleeding edge stuff, and doesn't care if it works or not :)
1240479244 M * geb Bertl, what distribution are you using if it is indiscreet :) ?
1240479272 M * geb don't care about the troll is just for my curiosity :)
1240479319 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@euclide.rsr.lip6.fr
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1240479541 M * Bertl geb: mostly Mandriva, somewhat modified
1240479825 M * geb ok thanks :)
1240479928 M * Supaplex when I get my infrastructure into better shape, I might create my own repos for some packages.
1240480055 M * geb should be intesting to create a vserver_integration_in_distribution page for listing know bugs in packages ship by distributions etc...
1240480095 M * Supaplex am I the only one, that when I see snail mail spam, the first thought that comes to mind is "I'm going to delete this." vs "I'm throwing this away." :P
1240480165 M * Bertl geb: not sure it is a good idea to make a page which lists the bugs distros make and ship (except for the appropriate bug tracker)
1240480267 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1240480273 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1240481505 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1240481794 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net
1240482476 Q * Supaplex Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240482837 J * jakob ~chatzilla@87.51.1.151
1240482842 M * jakob Hey
1240482880 M * jakob I have vserver installed on an intripid ubuntu server
1240482905 M * jakob I have one nic which is on a 192.168.0.0/24 subnet
1240482962 M * jakob I want to add vserver guests on a virtual 10.1.0.0/24 subnet on the vserver host
1240482966 M * jakob is that possible?
1240483030 Q * esa Read error: Connection reset by peer
1240483030 M * jakob I can create the guests without a problem having the IP in that subnet (10.1.0.0/24) but they don't have route to the internet
1240483039 J * esa bip@62.123.8.119
1240483057 M * jakob and it seems like I can't use the route command no a guest
1240483435 M * litw Bertl_oO, util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2833 works well, thanks a lot
1240483932 P * TobiX 
1240484004 J * Supaplex ~supaplex@166.70.62.193
1240484869 M * nox jakob: i would assume more a natting problem there
1240484890 M * nox since all guest are local for the host routing is not a issue here
1240484992 M * nox iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 10.1.0.0/24 -d ! 10.1.0.0/24  -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.123 <-- if 123 is the host ip
1240485107 M * nox otherwise the gw and other 192.168.0 nodes (not the host) would need a route to 10.1.0.0/24
1240486408 M * geb jakob,  http://linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests 
1240486415 M * geb i have an working example if you want
1240486425 J * saulus_ ~saulus@d026135.adsl.hansenet.de
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1240486535 N * saulus_ SauLus
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1240489092 J * cluk ~cluk@p5B17F76D.dip.t-dialin.net
1240489143 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1240489205 M * jakob Nox, geb: sorry I was disturbed, by a meeting
1240489214 Q * BenG 
1240489252 M * geb no problem :)
1240489255 M * jakob Thanks I will look at your input now :-)
1240489577 M * jakob geb: So I need to setup the dummy-interface on 10.1.0.0/24 subnet
1240489632 M * geb yes
1240489650 M * geb you can see http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12839
1240489788 M * jakob ok I am no shark with iptables
1240489798 M * jakob how much of that do I need?
1240489855 M * jakob can't I just route everything at once?
1240489868 M * geb you will need the ifup.d script for loading iptables.conf
1240489893 M * geb the line with -j MASQUERADE for giving acces to the net for vservers
1240489927 M * geb the other lines are only for redirecting connection to the host ip to a vserver
1240489945 M * jakob so I only need the one
1240489952 M * geb yes
1240489963 M * jakob ok I'll try it right away, thanks
1240490003 M * geb ie -A PREROUTING -s ! 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.5 will route http traffic (port 80) to the vserver 192.168.0.5
1240490110 M * jakob but that is very specific
1240490173 M * jakob route what traffic btw?
1240490226 M * geb route http://$host-ip to the $vserver
1240490277 M * jakob ok but I'd like the vservers to expose there own IP's
1240490303 M * geb oh ok
1240490319 M * geb sorry i didn't understand that
1240490322 M * jakob so that other hosts need to use the host as gateway
1240490329 M * geb well forget about the dummy and the nat
1240490330 M * jakob to the guests
1240490355 M * jakob ok then :-)
1240490366 M * jakob but it's nice to know that I can do that
1240490391 M * jakob do  you know the solution to my current need ;-)
1240490428 M * geb just define an eth0:0 interface in the host with 10.1.0.1 or 10.1.0.254 (it will allow you to forget about the route, the host will create them in a automaticaly)
1240490472 M * jakob Let me try
1240490487 M * geb and create a vserver with interface --dev eth0 (or eth0:0) and the ip you want
1240490510 M * jakob yes
1240490516 M * geb not sure what is the better / will work: eth0 or eth0:0
1240490546 M * jakob I can just modify the conf files right? /etc/vserver/interfaces/
1240490553 M * geb yes
1240490559 M * jakob ok
1240490571 M * geb /etc/vserver/$x/interfaces/0/{ip|dev}
1240490615 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1240491621 M * geb jakob, does it work ?
1240491624 M * geb :)
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1240492968 J * litw ~litw@123.127.250.67
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1240493431 M * litw Can I use vserver on my ia64 machine?
1240493715 M * geb yes
1240493784 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Paper#Non_Intel_i386_Hardware
1240494075 J * larsivi ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com
1240494291 M * litw geb: thanks
1240494429 M * litw I'm really puzzled, What does the output mean? /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/vsname: Function not implemented
1240494460 M * litw What function?
1240494629 M * litw the output of vserver-info: VS-API: ??? is this the same thing?
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1240495960 J * allquixotic ~jcd@mac18pg2.wam.umd.edu
1240496018 J * dna ~dna@186-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1240496127 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1240496134 M * Bertl back now ...
1240496691 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat
1240501755 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1240502279 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me
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1240502700 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx
1240502797 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1240502807 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1240502842 M * harobed have you some init.d script to auto start vserver ?
1240502872 M * harobed I would like start vserver myserver start
1240502942 M * harobed ok, I found this in faq
1240502970 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1240503060 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240503327 M * Bertl harobed: good, just add the mark, and you should be fine
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1240510236 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1240511769 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1240512736 J * cga_ ~weechat@82.84.179.164
1240512765 Q * cga Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240513183 P * cga_ got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1240513296 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
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1240517740 M * DelTree_ 38
1240517745 M * DelTree_ oops...
1240517750 N * DelTree_ DelTree
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1240518653 M * Bertl DelTree: upload the trace to paste.linux-vserver.org :)
1240519088 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
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1240519984 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192098.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240520057 M * mugwump hey Bertl, did you see my question before about exploitable root privilege escalation bugs?
1240520088 M * mugwump I was just wondering if there were any that have let you escape a vserver before
1240520104 M * mugwump certainly all the ones I've investigated never were.  But I didn't look at very many really
1240520152 M * mugwump I guess right at the beginning there was the barrier thing
1240520183 M * Bertl yes, but the barrier was a Linux-VServer exploit
1240520222 M * Bertl per definition, typical root exploits give you root (inside the guest) if at all
1240520248 M * Bertl most exploits fail, when not adjusted to Linux-VServer kernels
1240520310 M * Bertl the reduced capability set, the limited device nodes and proc/sys access prevents a lot of potential exploits too
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1240520768 J * Philadelphia bno@118-168-237-114.dynamic.hinet.net
1240521152 J * TheSeer ~theseer@e177147053.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240521161 M * TheSeer good evening :)
1240521211 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240521537 J * Yishuai ~chenyishu@222.35.252.14
1240522020 M * TheSeer OSError: [Errno 17] File exists: '/storage/vservers/tpcc-ci/..'
1240522020 M * TheSeer error: python callback <bound method RPMTransaction.callback of <yum.rpmtrans.RPMTransaction instance at 0x1d2f290>> failed, aborting!
1240522028 M * TheSeer anyone having a pointer as to what the problem might be?
1240522038 M * TheSeer this happens when trying to build a new vserver with -m yum
1240522568 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1240522665 M * Bertl is the yum patched?
1240522704 J * TheSeer_ ~theseer@e177146052.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240522754 Q * TheSeer_ 
1240522807 J * urbi ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1240522808 M * urbi hi
1240522813 M * urbi :)
1240522831 M * urbi is it possible to change guest vserver partition size without having to restart the vserver?
1240522856 M * Bertl sure, if you have a way to resize the partition online
1240522857 M * urbi /tmp is too small and i'm running some stuff i would not like to restart
1240522882 M * Bertl tmp is not a partition inside a guest (by default), it is a tmpfs
1240522910 M * urbi can i change the size?
1240522936 M * Bertl yep, inside the guest namespace, you can 'remount' it with a new limit
1240522981 J * TheSeer_ ~theseer@e177146052.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240523072 Q * TheSeer Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240523079 M * urbi vnamespace -e <XID> mount -t tmpfs -o remount,size=256m,mode=1777 none /var/lib/vservers/<servername>/tmp/
1240523202 M * urbi cool
1240523205 M * urbi thx
1240523265 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1240523309 N * TheSeer_ TheSeer
1240523314 M * TheSeer *sigh* i'm lost :/
1240523324 M * Bertl how so?
1240523379 M * TheSeer http://pastebin.ch/1221
1240523388 J * edlinuxgu ~kvirc@216.223.13.134
1240523389 M * TheSeer that happens when using vserver xxx build .. -m yum ...
1240523397 M * TheSeer -d centos5
1240523410 M * TheSeer i have no clue what i did to break it ;)
1240523419 M * TheSeer i have various vserver on that box already that all work fine
1240523421 M * Bertl I asked: is the yum patched?
1240523450 M * TheSeer oh, didn't see that
1240523450 M * edlinuxgu Hey all, How are you?
1240523462 M * TheSeer ouhm.. doesn't look like it
1240523473 M * TheSeer for it complains about it
1240523497 M * edlinuxgu I want to follow up on the VServer Web Interface if anyone wants to chat about it.
1240523530 M * mnemoc VServer Web Interface?
1240523555 M * edlinuxgu There was a thread going around about it on the mailing list
1240523599 M * edlinuxgu I posted my reference implementation http://www.jointhegrid.com/svn/vserver-wui-lite/
1240523660 M * edlinuxgu I wanted to flesh out real details, and make something official.
1240523718 M * mnemoc I'm a "bit" behind in the ML :p
1240523875 M * edlinuxgu Ok well there are two interesting things I have done actually
1240523903 M * edlinuxgu http://www.jointhegrid.com/svn/vserver-cacti-jtg/trunk/
1240523917 M * edlinuxgu I also have some really slick cacti graphs for vserver
1240524224 M * edlinuxgu But I really wanted to have someone check out the implementation I did and suggest some features to add to it to make it official
1240524252 M * edlinuxgu It was one of the things VServer wanted for the "summer of code" application
1240524301 M * Bertl correct, just provide some package and advertize it on the ML
1240524325 M * TheSeer Bertl: okay, downgraded to the patched yum version available as rpm from dhozac's repo ... seems to have solved the issue
1240524345 Q * geb Quit: Quitte
1240524347 M * Bertl edlinuxgu: and hang around on IRC, and suggest it to everybody looking for an interface
1240524367 M * Bertl (that way you should get a reasonable amount of feedback :)
1240524381 M * Bertl TheSeer: great!
1240524416 M * edlinuxgu I was just wondering if you guys in the end want to include it into your SVN or anything. I dont want to handle the logistics of running my own mailing list etc.
1240524479 M * Bertl you can reuse whatever infrastructure we have
1240524538 M * Bertl best contact hollow for an account on the svn/git host
1240524562 M * edlinuxgu Great. Great.
1240524596 M * edlinuxgu Well I have a quick question to ask you guys. One of the things I am doing is populating a drop down of distributions that can be installed.  Can I determine that information dynamically or is this just a static list?
1240524654 M * Bertl I'd say that is something to be customized
1240524672 M * Bertl mainly because the distros depend on the build method
1240524704 M * Bertl I'd make the default build debian and maybe fedora/centos
1240524789 M * Bertl debian/ubuntu versions are probably the only ones which can be built on all host distros without additional programs/tools/data
1240524865 M * edlinuxgu Ok. I have not experimented with all of the distro / build method combinations.  I have CentOS so centOS5 template, rpm, and yum work out of the box for me.
1240524899 M * Bertl debootstrap (debian/ubuntu) should work out of the box too
1240524940 M * Bertl templates do not require additional tools, but rpm/yum needs a working rpm/yum
1240525032 M * daniel_hozac well, templates do require the utilities required to extract it. :-)
1240525049 M * Bertl hey daniel_hozac! good to read you!
1240525099 M * daniel_hozac hey, how are you?
1240525132 M * Bertl quite fine .. cold is almost gone ... and you?
1240525137 M * edlinuxgu Ok that is good information. I will make a distributable in the next comming days. As always thanks for the info.
1240525159 M * daniel_hozac i'm good, but pretty busy lately.
1240525163 M * Bertl edlinuxgu: np, keep asking (and hanging around)
1240525174 M * daniel_hozac edlinuxgu: did i read it right that this is written in Java?
1240525197 M * edlinuxgu Yes. Just really doing a shell exec
1240525203 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: busy is fine, I was worried you were ill or so?
1240525218 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240525258 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: not at all, i'm better than ever. just really preoccupied with life.
1240525276 M * daniel_hozac edlinuxgu: on behalf of all Java-haters, why?
1240525278 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192098.adsl.alicedsl.de
1240525292 M * edlinuxgu On behalf of all java lovers its my best language
1240525307 M * edlinuxgu Let me ask you this. What other language do i have bindings for?
1240525319 M * daniel_hozac Python has native bindings to all of libvserver.
1240525384 M * edlinuxgu The only really native thing I am doing is 'vserver build'. Making the /etc/vserver/* type files is just done with file io
1240525417 M * daniel_hozac but i'm assuming you're also showing statistics and such about running contexts.
1240525434 M * edlinuxgu True. Just doing a forked vserver status
1240525454 M * daniel_hozac which is a lot more work than a vc_virt_stat call.
1240525454 M * edlinuxgu I am not adverse to using the python bindings
1240525464 M * Bertl daniel_hozac, edlinuxgu: let's see it as proof of concept and playground for now :)
1240525492 M * edlinuxgu Well I would realy like to front end VServer Control Daemon
1240525496 M * daniel_hozac well, the point i'm really trying to make is, Java is _horrible_ to work with.
1240525542 M * Bertl obviously not for edlinuxgu :)
1240525560 M * edlinuxgu True I dont know python .
1240525581 M * edlinuxgu Im not against using it though.
1240525582 M * Guy- "work with" != "write code in", I suppose :)
1240525597 M * daniel_hozac personally, i find both terrible.
1240525603 M * daniel_hozac but that's just me.
1240525613 M * Guy- I also find it terrible to work with, fwiw
1240525652 M * Guy- but let's not get started on that :)
1240525654 M * edlinuxgu Daniel Vserver Control Deamon has a Web Service style interface. I would love to hook into that.
1240525687 M * daniel_hozac vcd is a completely different toolkit from util-vserver though.
1240525723 M * Bertl my point is, we need/want a maintained web frontend, and it seems like edlinuxgu is willing to provide that, right?
1240525740 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1240525771 M * edlinuxgu I definately see daniel's point for using Python, I know shell execing is a nasty way to do something.
1240525774 M * Bertl maybe the favor for java leads to native java bindings for libvserver too, who knows
1240525948 M * edlinuxgu My goal is to create a nice front end with features people can use. Where are the python bindings installed to?
1240525964 M * daniel_hozac python's sitelib.
1240525985 M * Bertl another option, IMHO would be php, which could make good use of bindings too
1240526011 M * Bertl (and is quite common nowadays, but so is python and java :)
1240526089 M * edlinuxgu I gotta run guys! Ill investigate the python bindings. Thanks all.
1240526097 M * Bertl anyway, don't let this get a language problem .. but proper bindings/interfaces to the kernel are preferable in the future
1240526146 M * Bertl k, cza
1240526150 M * Bertl *cya
1240526181 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: did you read some of my questions in your backlog?
1240526378 M * daniel_hozac no, i didn't. let me check it now...
1240526475 M * daniel_hozac the build problem?
1240526490 M * daniel_hozac do you still get that if you use --arch instead of -arch?
1240526492 M * Bertl yep, that is probably the main issue
1240526504 M * Bertl hmm, good point, let me check
1240526577 Q * edlinuxgu Ping timeout: 482 seconds
1240526589 M * Bertl seems to work a lot better, we should put that in the FAQ or so?
1240526618 M * Bertl at least for me, it wasn't clear that this 'typo' caused it
1240526648 M * daniel_hozac i would have expected debootstrap to error with some type of message about it, not silently like that.
1240526700 M * Bertl okay, so that seems to be resolved then ...
1240526790 M * daniel_hozac maybe file a bug against debootstrap?
1240527142 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1240527182 M * Bertl but everything starting with the chroot-sh (so basically everything) comes from util-vserver, right?
1240527183 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1240527245 M * daniel_hozac yeah. that's the cleanup script running on an empty tree.
1240527285 M * Bertl maybe we could add some sanity checks, to detect a failing build (not limited to debootstrap)
1240527306 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap is the only thing that continues even when the command fails.
1240528010 M * Bertl okay, problem solved for now ... improvement possible
1240528027 M * Bertl I'm off to bed now .. have fun everyone!
1240528033 M * TheSeer same here
1240528035 M * TheSeer n8
1240528039 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1240528044 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting
1240529690 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-65-163.tukw.qwest.net
1240530525 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr
1240531094 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau