1239753777 J * nwmcsween ~nwmcsween@69.176.164.57
1239753801 M * nwmcsween hi what are the major differences between vserver and openvz?
1239753805 N * nwmcsween Guest470
1239753834 M * Guest470 no migration capabilities
1239753866 M * Guest470 but what else?
1239753888 N * Guest470 nwmcsween
1239753902 Q * nwmcsween Remote host closed the connection
1239754016 J * nwmcsween ~nwmcsween@69.176.164.57
1239754046 M * nwmcsween sorry repost I was disconnected: what are the major differences between vserver and openvz
1239754182 M * dowdle nwmcsween: Looks like Bertl went to bed at 16:28
1239754220 M * dowdle nwmcsween: Well, I guess that would be my time... so let me rephrase that as... about 1.5 hours ago.
1239754284 M * dowdle nwmcsween: I'd say to compare the features pages on the OpenVZ and the Linux-VServer websites.
1239754313 M * nwmcsween I have no  C/R in linux vserver but I want to know what the roadmap is for vserver
1239754339 M * nwmcsween if they will implement C/R once in mainline, how its difference from lxc
1239754487 M * dowdle C/R = ?
1239754500 M * dowdle http://wiki.openvz.org/Features and http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions
1239754513 M * daniel_hozac checkpoint restart.
1239754539 M * dowdle nwmcsween: Good luck.  I have to run my ride is here.  Later
1239754568 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1239754741 M * nwmcsween well really i want to know why i should use vserver over openvz
1239755739 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
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1239757891 J * nenolod ~nenolod@ip70-189-74-62.ok.ok.cox.net
1239757905 Q * nenolod 
1239757936 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1239758229 Q * nwmcsween Ping timeout: 482 seconds
1239758397 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239759185 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection
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1239759617 J * hparker ~hparker@adsl-76-236-205-26.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net
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1239767154 J * nwmcs459 ~nwmcsween@69.176.164.57
1239769892 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1239769896 M * Bertl morning folks!
1239770009 M * Bertl nwmcs459: because the code is a lot cleaner, more architectures are supported, the overhead is a lot smaller, the IRC support is better and the project is not tied to a company interested in selling their commercial product :)
1239770027 M * nwmcs459 ah there we go
1239770072 M * nwmcs459 does vserver use cgroups at all?
1239770084 M * nwmcs459 and are the features the same except for C/R?
1239770090 M * Bertl yep, for recent kernels (i.e. the ones which have the cgroups)
1239770107 M * nwmcs459 ah then they are
1239770137 M * Bertl the features are basically the same, one difference might be that Linux-VServer focuses on lightweight isolation instead of doing virtualization in many areas
1239770167 M * nwmcs459 is there a large learning curve in openvz vs vserver?
1239770227 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-240-82.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no
1239770232 M * nwmcs459 i might just go for it as long as I can grasp it within a weekend and how is development is it continous?
1239770266 M * nwmcs459 I was looking at it quite some time ago and noticed 2.6.24 was only supported about a year ago
1239770281 M * nwmcs459 or 2.6.22 can't remember
1239770455 M * Bertl you were probably looking at the stable releases, which focus on quite stable and proven kernel versions
1239770473 M * Bertl the devel and experimental releases are quite up-to-date, I'd say
1239770615 M * Bertl for example, 2.6.27.21, 2.6.28.9 and 2.6.29 :)
1239770625 M * nwmcs459 Is there a roadmap anywhere? Is cgroups the prefered way to allocate resources?
1239770740 M * nwmcs459 well im definity going to devote a weekend to vserver
1239770757 M * Bertl mainline seems to focus on/around cgroups for resource accounting and limitation, but Linux-VServer has accounting and limits for more than six years now .. but cgroups are fully supported and future development will be incorporated as soon as it becomes usable
1239770838 M * Bertl while the cgroup stuff has some advantages (like potential for hierarchical structures) it has a lot more overhead too, but that is something you can decide on ...
1239771019 M * Bertl regarding roadmap: not really, Linux-VServer is mostly feature complete, so we spend a lot of time to adapt it to recent kernel development and on incorporating mainline virtualization mechanisms where appropriate
1239771234 J * hparker ~hparker@adsl-76-236-205-26.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net
1239771402 M * Bertl check out the wiki to get started, and if you use/prefer debian, make sure that you do not get a broken kernel or outdated util-vserver :)
1239771473 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl
1239771521 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239771789 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl
1239771793 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1239771898 M * nwmcs459 thanks for the help :)
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1239773035 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1239773796 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.84.22
1239773873 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl
1239773884 Q * urbi Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239773921 Q * imcsk8 
1239774882 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.84.22
1239775469 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1239775772 Q * ghislainocfs2 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239775940 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1239776806 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71
1239777915 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl
1239777919 Q * zbyniu_ 
1239778332 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1239778515 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1239779323 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1239779438 M * ghislainocfs2 hello there :)
1239779458 M * ghislainocfs2 to continue the cgroup/vserver debate i see that cgroup can limit memory usage
1239779472 M * ghislainocfs2 is there a difference between cgroup handling and vserver handling ?
1239779500 M * ghislainocfs2 i wonder about vashified guest how the linked libs are shared and accounted between the vserver 
1239779796 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6
1239780939 J * wongyb ~wongyb@pc91155.cse.cuhk.edu.hk
1239780986 M * wongyb Failed 
1239781019 M * wongyb Failed to start Apache2 in Debian 3.1 guest. The host is Debian 5.0 64-bit
1239781048 M * wongyb who
1239781058 M * wongyb help who
1239781073 M * wongyb who -server
1239781153 M * wongyb Failed to start Apache2 in Debian 3.1 guest. The host is Debian 5.0 64-bit
1239782122 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.152.84
1239782209 M * wongyb quit
1239782211 Q * wongyb Quit: Leaving
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1239782626 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.151.218
1239782879 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1239782885 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239783044 J * esa bip@62.123.8.70
1239785407 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1239786227 J * dna ~dna@136.Red-83-55-27.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net
1239786998 Q * nenolod Remote host closed the connection
1239787027 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1239787188 Q * nenolod Remote host closed the connection
1239787216 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1239787670 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving.
1239787675 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1239788346 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1239788750 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
1239789572 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau
1239790227 Q * fosco_ Quit: Reconnecting
1239790229 J * fosco_ fosco@212.85.148.86
1239790287 N * fosco_ fosco
1239790441 Q * fosco 
1239790451 J * fosco fosco@212.85.148.86
1239790480 Q * fosco 
1239790485 J * fosco ~fosco@91.208.40.1
1239792671 J * tanjix tanjix@mozart.star-hosting.de
1239792675 M * tanjix Hi @ll
1239792704 M * tanjix I have a strange problem with kernel 2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre3vserver
1239792721 M * tanjix when I ssh to a guest A, i see the filesystem of guest Z
1239792727 M * tanjix when I ssh to a guest B, i see the filesystem of guest Z
1239792733 M * tanjix when I ssh to a guest C, i see the filesystem of guest Z
1239792736 M * tanjix and so on ...
1239793131 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@euclide.rsr.lip6.fr
1239794889 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net
1239794952 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c145040.adsl.hansenet.de
1239795060 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239795060 N * saulus_ SauLus
1239795508 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1239795813 J * yeal ~damiano@200.63.17.162
1239795814 P * yeal 
1239796326 J * kuldip ~jiming@60.191.89.44
1239796327 P * kuldip 
1239796757 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch
1239797541 J * hesse ~hor-lam@194.44.170.81
1239797541 P * hesse 
1239797756 J * macchius ~howard@190.66.8.82
1239797756 P * macchius 
1239797776 J * macchius ~howard@190.66.8.82
1239797776 M * macchius Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip
1239797776 P * macchius 
1239798108 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239798372 J * hetzel ~cheston@187.9.120.99
1239798373 M * hetzel Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip
1239798373 P * hetzel 
1239798913 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1239799411 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-29-96.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr
1239799420 M * geb hi
1239799847 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239799967 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1239801381 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239802044 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-36-141.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr
1239802598 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1239802820 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-2-040.ethz.ch
1239803242 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1239803248 Q * jrdnyquist Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239803963 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1239804075 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-65-163.tukw.qwest.net
1239805097 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239805244 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1239806019 J * uva bno@114-45-230-52.dynamic.hinet.net
1239806621 Q * fosco Quit: Reconnecting
1239806624 J * fosco fosco@marx.wirefull.org
1239806847 J * larsivi ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com
1239807000 N * ensc Guest544
1239807010 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.160.26
1239807421 Q * Guest544 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239807473 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1239807582 M * Bertl_oO tanjix: are you sure you ssh-ed to the correct guest?
1239807728 M * Bertl_oO ghislainocfs2: yep, that would be interesting to know ... my assumption would be that cgroups might get that right, as the vmas are tagged, but it might also mean more memory usage
1239808484 J * Axet ~john@vshost1.nurvnet.org
1239808510 M * Axet hi all, I've just been messing around with vservers and wanted to add a new one but I got an error message saying that the context was already used and that I need to choose another one
1239808526 M * Axet I thought that contexts allowed an admin to define the rights given to a vserver 
1239808536 M * Axet why can't I have 2 vservers with the same contexts ?
1239808542 M * Axet or have I got it all wrong ?
1239808556 M * ard Heheh...
1239808562 M * ard context *id*
1239808565 M * ard it's a number
1239808565 M * harobed hi, I look for trampoline.sh information...
1239808569 M * ard just like a userid
1239808571 M * harobed where can I found it ?
1239808585 M * ard  /etc/vservers/<name>/context
1239808592 M * ard ow
1239808592 M * ard wait
1239808604 M * ard wasn't intended for harobed 
1239808629 A * ard wasn't reading axet right
1239808653 M * ard context id is a way to separate your context / vservers
1239808661 M * harobed ard: what ?
1239808674 M * ard it's not intended for classifying rights
1239808700 M * ard harobed : I mixed your's and axet
1239808705 A * ard was replying to axet :-)
1239808721 M * harobed lol
1239808724 M * Axet ok thanks for the info :)
1239808732 M * Axet so I can just increment it then 
1239808748 M * ard You can increment them, or let the vserver build script do it for you
1239808763 M * Axet ok thanks i'll go do that now :)
1239808764 M * ard the next value is in /etc/vservers/.defaults/context.next or something like that
1239808765 M * Axet cya
1239808766 P * Axet 
1239808789 M * ard harobed : why do you need trampoline.sh?
1239808823 M * harobed ard: I don't know how to use/configure it
1239808832 M * ard http://www.mail-archive.com/vserver@list.linux-vserver.org/msg04265.html
1239808845 M * ard This is the first time I've heard about it :-)
1239808872 M * harobed http://www.sculpturedlife.com/vserver/irc-logs/index.php?date=2004-07-08 <= not found
1239808895 M * harobed I need trampoline to this use case :
1239808910 M * harobed ssh vserver1@example.com
1239808920 M * harobed ssh vserver2@example.com
1239808936 M * harobed redirect to vserver guest
1239808947 M * ard well, the script is very short
1239808955 M * ard http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/trampoline.sh
1239809008 M * harobed ok, I need to create some user on my physical server
1239809014 M * ard You'd probably need a good authorized_keys for that
1239809017 M * harobed ok
1239809022 M * harobed I try
1239809048 M * ard vserver commands can only be done by root
1239809072 M * ard Personally I surround scripts like trampoline.sh with some sanity checking, and let it sudo itself
1239809101 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.144.106.114
1239809114 M * harobed :(, I can't configuration many trampoline :(
1239809291 M * ard Well, I usually let the sshd daemon start from inetd
1239809301 M * ard That part can also be done from the root:
1239809393 M * ard someip:22 stream tcp nowait root  /usr/sbin/vserver /usr/sbin/vserver --silent aVserver exec /usr/sbin/sshd -i
1239809400 M * ard in the inetd.conf
1239809407 M * ard in another case:
1239809411 M * ard *:2015 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/bin/tessassh  /usr/local/bin/tessassh wapiti
1239809435 M * ard in which case it verifies if the vserver is running, and if not, it first starts it, and then exec's sshd
1239809436 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.147.242
1239809470 M * ard It's easier on the pts to have them allocated within the vserver
1239809783 M * harobed ok
1239809972 M * Bertl_oO nap attack ... bbl
1239809976 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1239810015 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat
1239810112 J * Philadelphia bno@118-160-174-171.dynamic.hinet.net
1239810131 Q * Philadelphia Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239810286 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239810484 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1239810709 M * tanjix Bertl_zZ: yes i am sure
1239810989 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1239811088 M * tanjix i've done / tried some debugging: i entered a guest by vserver XXX enter and created a file named like the context id of the guest (10039)
1239811124 M * tanjix then i ssh'ed to that server with that context id and saw that file. i then ssh'ed to another guest with another ip and came again in the guest with id 10039
1239811131 M * tanjix i was able to delete the file also
1239811150 M * tanjix when i then looked in the guest again with vserver XXX enter, the file was really deleted
1239811156 M * tanjix it's a strange behaviour...
1239811448 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau
1239811536 Q * kir Quit: Leaving.
1239811942 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me
1239811955 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1239812044 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@euclide.rsr.lip6.fr
1239812807 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1239812991 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA]
1239813135 M * ard tanjix : what does ls -al /etc/vserver/<vservera>/vdir say?
1239813156 M * ard and so on :-)
1239813215 M * ard and vnamespace --ctx vservera cat /proc/mounts
1239813223 M * ard eh
1239813230 M * ard and vnamespace --ctx vservera enter cat /proc/mounts
1239813264 M * ard and vnamespace --enter vservera cat /proc/mounts
1239813289 M * tanjix vnamespace --ctx vservera enter cat /proc/mounts returns: invalid option ctx
1239813302 M * ard try the last vnamespace ;-)
1239813324 M * ard I mean: --enter and not --ctx
1239813330 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239813369 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12826
1239813376 M * tanjix i did it for three guests
1239813382 M * tanjix the host is running around 50 guests
1239813494 Q * imcsk8 Read error: Operation timed out
1239813508 M * ard heheh :-)
1239813692 M * ard Hmmm, looks good to me
1239813706 M * ard every vserver a distinct partition
1239813725 M * ard the symlinks are correct
1239813744 M * ard there is no way you can see file a created in vserver b from vserver c
1239813750 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1239813757 M * ard so there must be a mixup somewhere
1239813766 M * ard maybe ip addresses?
1239813806 M * ard I mean: if you vserver blaat exec touch /tmp/qqqq.test
1239813813 M * ard will that be visible in all?
1239814585 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.144.106.114
1239815557 J * uva bno@118-160-174-171.dynamic.hinet.net
1239815695 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau
1239815723 J * marsie ~dietrich@189.80.21.242
1239815730 P * marsie 
1239815817 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@euclide.rsr.lip6.fr
1239816023 Q * bourgeau 
1239816359 M * tanjix ard: no it is not
1239816374 M * tanjix but when i ssh to IP of guest A for example and do ifdonfig inside the guest i ssh'ed to
1239816381 M * tanjix i see the IP of guest Z
1239816452 M * tanjix example: ssh to 192.168.20.11... ifconfig shows ip 192.168.70.11 or ssh to 192.168.22.11 shows ip 192.168.70.11
1239816555 J * Wonka_ produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1239816555 Q * Wonka Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239817135 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1239817335 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.144.106.114
1239817588 Q * doener_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1239817688 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1239817891 J * doener ~doener@i59F5ADA1.versanet.de
1239818090 Q * blathijs Quit: reboot
1239818330 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.131.229
1239818588 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature
1239819114 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat
1239819750 Q * Wonka_ Remote host closed the connection
1239821383 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11
1239821491 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1239821495 M * Bertl back now ...
1239822262 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1239823579 M * tanjix wb!
1239823596 M * Bertl thanks!
1239823597 M * tanjix Bertl: maybe you have an idea regarding my problem?
1239823615 M * Bertl a bunch actually, but I need to get some more info about your guests
1239823625 M * tanjix which ones? ;)
1239823672 M * Bertl mainly the network config, i.e. the contents of /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces (for a start)
1239823678 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines)
1239823690 M * tanjix for all guests or just for a few?
1239823720 M * Bertl specifically for a 'bad' guest, and for all guests containing 192.168.70.11
1239823740 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1239823758 M * tanjix the 192.xx was only an example, the guests are availabe via routed IPs in the www
1239823761 M * ghislainocfs2 hum i again lost track of how to use quota inside a guest with a dedicated partition. anyone has an idea ?
1239823772 M * Bertl tanjix: ah, and I need your kernel/patch version as well as the util-vserver version
1239823790 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12827
1239823836 M * tanjix kernel: 2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre3vserver | util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2772
1239823945 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: http://linux-vserver.org/Standard_non-shared_quota
1239823978 M * ghislainocfs2 ah thanks bertl ! why i allways miss this one ? is it possible to have more than 8  vroot device ?
1239824051 M * Bertl tanjix: okay, the guest config you showed me contains the *.70.11 ip as /32, so you will see that, not really unexpected?
1239824112 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12828
1239824117 M * tanjix this are other guests
1239824127 M * tanjix this problem did not occur before with the old kernel
1239824186 M * tanjix now when i e.g. ssh to *.72.11 and do an ifconfig then, i see the ip *.70.11
1239824194 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1239824196 M * tanjix and i also see the filesystem of the guest with *.70.11
1239824200 M * Bertl okay, so let's take the ds10040 guest for example, please install 'ip' from 'iproute(2)' inside the guest (or a similar one), ssh into it and run 'ip addr ls'
1239824202 M * tanjix and not *.72.11
1239824277 M * tanjix that does not work. i installed iproute in the guest ds10040
1239824281 M * tanjix and ssh'ed into it
1239824287 M * tanjix but now i am ssh'ed to ds10039
1239824291 M * tanjix and there is no iprotue installed ;)
1239824325 M * Bertl well, take the ds10040 instead then :)
1239824362 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239824366 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12829
1239824407 M * Bertl and ifconfig shows you *.70.11 ?
1239824407 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
1239824460 M * tanjix the output from pastebin-12829 is done by vserver ds10040 enter and then ip addr ls
1239824479 M * Bertl okay, and what does 'ifconfig' show after the enter?
1239824481 M * tanjix when i ssh to any ip from a guest on the same host, i am always being put to ds10039
1239824495 M * tanjix and not to the guest i really want to go in
1239824519 M * Bertl ah, there we go, you end up on the wrong guest, i.e. the guest is fine, your ssh target not, yes?
1239824528 M * tanjix correct
1239824537 M * tanjix doing vserver xxx enter is ok
1239824542 M * tanjix but not when ssh-ing to the guests
1239824553 M * tanjix then i always get in the same guest - and that's wrong
1239824556 M * Bertl okay, then let's get the detailed config of that guest
1239824565 M * tanjix of ds10039?
1239824568 M * Bertl yep
1239824587 M * Bertl let's start with the interfaces section, and work towards flags and caps
1239824603 M * tanjix the interfaces are already @ pastebin
1239824608 M * tanjix 12827
1239824624 M * Bertl also get me the output of /proc/virtnet/<nid>/*
1239824651 M * tanjix a caps fiel does not exist so we can skip this on i think?
1239824655 M * tanjix fiel = file
1239824681 M * Bertl yep, typo
1239824733 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12831
1239824811 M * Bertl okay, that is a funny one, but I guess I figured it :)
1239824828 M * tanjix what's funny there ? ;)
1239824833 M * Bertl look at the 12831 output, see the /0.0.0.0 ?
1239824842 M * tanjix yep
1239824854 M * Bertl that basically means _all_ ips
1239824863 M * tanjix mh
1239824868 M * tanjix makes sense ;)
1239824871 M * Bertl there should be a 255.255.255.255 there
1239824877 M * tanjix but it is not ;)
1239824888 M * Bertl now, look at the 12827 outpout, you got the 'prefix' in the mask file
1239824893 M * Bertl *output
1239824906 M * tanjix i have checked on another server with older kernel
1239824910 M * tanjix there is 255.255.255.255
1239824915 M * Bertl i.e. it should either be 255.255.255.255 in 'mask' or 32 in 'prefix'
1239824948 M * Bertl I presume the older util-vserver did tolerate the misconfiguration, the new ones don't :)
1239824960 M * tanjix mh ok ...
1239824969 M * Bertl stop the guest, rename the 'mask' to 'prefix' and restart it
1239824977 M * tanjix i do this configuration since... 3 or 4 years ;)
1239824988 M * Bertl well, and since then it is broken :)
1239824996 M * tanjix too baaaaad ;)
1239825014 M * tanjix so renaming the file mask to prefix?
1239825017 M * Bertl btw, it would be better to use the proper netmask/prefix instead of /32, but it works with /32 too
1239825085 M * tanjix i am shutting down all guests now and then doing the renaming
1239825093 M * Bertl yep, good idea
1239825278 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.131.229
1239825476 Q * cga 
1239825899 M * tanjix ok, guests are starting again
1239825919 M * tanjix when i did the /etc/init.d/vservers start i got an: lstat(): No such file or directory
1239826001 M * tanjix and the problem itself seems to be solved, when i now ssh to any ip, i am in the correct guest ;)
1239826024 M * Bertl yep, in the config before, the first started guest bound all IPs for ssh
1239826039 M * Bertl thus, you ended up in that guest every time
1239826051 M * tanjix mh no
1239826053 M * tanjix it is not solved
1239826067 M * tanjix the first ssh to a guest after they all started was correct
1239826081 M * tanjix any ssh to any other guest after this one brings me to the guest i sshe'ed first
1239826119 M * Bertl check the /proc/virtnet/<nid>/info for that guest, it should be 255.255.255.255 not 0.0.0.0
1239826139 M * Bertl (or the correct netmask, if you set it)
1239826153 M * tanjix it is 255.255.255.255
1239826160 M * tanjix vnamespace --ctx vservera enter cat /proc/mounts
1239826162 M * tanjix oops
1239826224 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12832
1239826249 M * tanjix and when i ssh to this ip, i get into guest ds10049 and ds10006
1239826273 M * Bertl hmm?
1239826274 M * tanjix ds10049 was the guest i sshed first after the server were started again
1239826311 M * Bertl and the config for ds10049 is?
1239826315 M * tanjix any following ssh to any other ip (ds10021, das10033, ...) brings me to ds10049
1239826342 M * tanjix the configs are all the same except the ip number
1239826345 M * Bertl i.e. what does the /proc/virtnet show for that?
1239826371 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12833
1239826374 M * tanjix for ds10049
1239826448 M * Bertl hmm ...
1239826471 M * tanjix my oppinion is maybe a bug in virtualization or something. the first ssh is correct, any ssh attempt after the first beams me always the the guest i sshed first, after all guests were 8re)started
1239826499 M * Bertl could you restart them once again, and try with a different 'first' guest?
1239826504 M * tanjix sure
1239826521 M * Bertl if there is a bug, it would make sense that the first connection gets stuck in the cache
1239826539 M * Bertl also use the explicit 'ip' not the name to rule out resolver issues
1239826572 M * tanjix i will now ssh first to ds10022 (*.53.11)
1239826620 M * tanjix mh
1239826625 M * tanjix i again get into ds10049
1239826632 M * tanjix although all servers were stopped and started
1239826635 M * tanjix confused....
1239826668 M * Bertl well, I think that one might still be 'special' from the config
1239826683 M * Bertl but try to reboot, to clear the cache (if possible)
1239826705 M * tanjix yes, it's possible. whole host is rebooting now
1239826727 M * tanjix i hope it comes back online ;)
1239826919 M * tanjix mh...
1239826930 M * tanjix it won't get back online :(
1239826950 M * Bertl no remote console?
1239826985 M * tanjix not on this host, no... each reboot was succesful, this not :(
1239826997 M * Bertl very strange ...
1239827014 M * tanjix trying a remote reset
1239827082 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1239827134 M * tanjix ahh it's back
1239827156 M * tanjix 20 guests started already
1239827196 M * Bertl good!
1239827228 M * tanjix ok trying again... first ssh-ing to "ds10006 (*.37.11)
1239827247 M * tanjix weird...
1239827252 M * tanjix i now cam into ds10022
1239827256 M * tanjix instead of ds10006
1239827308 M * Bertl at the first attempt?
1239827315 M * tanjix yep
1239827372 M * tanjix and ifconfig in the ssh-ed wrongserver shows the correct of ds10022
1239827408 M * tanjix so: i wanted to ssh to "ds10006, *.37.11" and came into "ds10022, *.53.11"
1239827421 M * tanjix ifconfig inside ds10022 shows ip for ds10022, so this is correct
1239827675 M * tanjix i tihnk when i reboot with the old kernel (2.6.22.9-vs2.3.0.28) it works fine again
1239827683 M * tanjix but the problem is a strange one
1239827711 M * Bertl well, I'll try to recreate your setup here .. we'll see, maybe I find something
1239827734 M * tanjix i can give yu access to that server here, if you like or if it helps you
1239827771 M * Bertl let's see if I find something .. if not, I'll come back to that
1239827789 M * tanjix ok, thx for all, Bertl!
1239827851 M * Bertl np, thanks for bringing it to our attention!
1239828015 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: it seems the debootstrap got updated again, should recent util-vserver use the correct one?
1239828451 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1239828692 Q * zpenguin Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239828693 J * blathijs ~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl
1239828733 M * blathijs Is there a way to make the util-vserver init script start servers automatically in a particular order?
1239828749 M * Bertl you can set 'dependancies'
1239828768 M * blathijs So far I've only found stuff about marks
1239828845 M * blathijs Bertl: How to specify these dependencies?
1239828902 M * blathijs Ah, seems I just need to create a file named "depends"
1239828925 M * blathijs in /etc/vserver/<name>/apps/init
1239828931 M * blathijs containing vserver names
1239829013 M * Bertl yep, you were faster :)
1239829083 M * blathijs I was already halfway the script code when I realized I could also ask here :-p
1239829092 M * blathijs But I found the flower page entry about it as well
1239829107 M * blathijs pretty nifty code, to generate a Makefile to handle the parallelism :-)
1239829114 M * blathijs (slightly obscure for reading, though)
1239829129 M * Bertl hehe
1239829448 M * blathijs Oh well, time for sleep
1239829457 M * Bertl have a good one! :)
1239829476 M * blathijs I'll try another reboot in the morning, hope that things won't fail so horribly as they did the first try :-)
1239829529 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1239830628 M * fb Bertl: are there any known problems with running samba inside a guest?
1239830678 M * Bertl not that I know of?
1239830822 M * fb "wins_registration_timeout: WINS server 127.0.0.1 timed out registering"
1239830858 M * Bertl IIRC, wins is not required nor really samba related
1239830877 M * Bertl but you might want to use the lback virtualization
1239830895 M * fb http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12834
1239830906 M * fb and this looks even more strange to me
1239830937 M * fb i want samba to provide wins service
1239831011 M * Bertl well, IIRC, the wins stuff is using some broadcast stuff, no?
1239831024 M * fb this suggests lback virtualisation works, no? http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12835
1239831037 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure you can make it work, but I think you need to get the config right for that
1239831098 M * fb Bertl: network traffic suggests wins server runs, at least half way right
1239831161 M * fb Bertl: I added option 44 to DHCP server, and it seems workstations send packets to this server instead broadcasting queries
1239831288 Q * Kamping_Kaiser Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239831406 J * Kamping_Kaiser ~kgoetz@ppp121-45-106-76.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net
1239832548 M * fb Bertl: it seems it depends on 127.0.0.1 availability somehow. Will try to debug this later, tomorrow maybe. Maybe start with setting up another, non-virtual server?
1239832560 M * fb and for now, good night everyone
1239833285 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1239833745 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1239833879 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1239834850 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1239834855 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1239836711 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1239837126 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1239837546 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1239837601 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr
1239838388 J * PowerKe ~tom@d5153A4C4.access.telenet.be