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1239326408 N * mog mog_away
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1239347227 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
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1239356540 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
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1239369510 M * hijacker fellows, how do one umount a filesystem in the guest from the host ?
1239369524 M * hijacker i want to umount the /tmp mountpoint
1239369528 M * hijacker and I am unable to do so
1239369545 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e <guest> umount /vservers/<guest>/tmp
1239369560 M * hijacker ah
1239369563 M * hijacker lovely
1239369567 M * hijacker i was trying with:
1239369581 M * hijacker vnamespace -e 112 -- umount /tmp
1239369581 M * hijacker umount: /tmp: not mounted
1239369711 M * hijacker hm, it completed fine, but it is still displayed in the mount command?
1239369719 M * hijacker do I have to reset the mtab as well ?
1239369776 M * hijacker right, just removed it from the /etc/mtab in the guest
1239369780 M * hijacker seems alright now
1239369784 M * hijacker thanks daniel_hozac 
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1239372423 N * mog_away mog
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1239376291 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA]
1239376360 M * ktwilight_ what's in .36.10 tha'ts not in .36.9? .29 kernel uses .36.9 but not .36.10?
1239377122 J * Helder Bloodlines@81.193.102.183
1239377123 M * Helder http://bloodlines.mybrute.com/   << Beat me in this cute game and original game :) Its totally random! Try it out guys
1239377183 Q * Helder autokilled: This host violated network policy. If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net, thanks. (2009-04-10 15:26:23)
1239377186 M * Wonka go away
1239377193 M * Wonka oh, already gone :)
1239378329 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
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1239382001 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1239382007 M * Bertl back now ...
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1239389987 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com
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1239390315 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com
1239390968 M * Bertl mEDI_S: troubles with your irc client?
1239390985 M * mEDI_S is fixed now sorry ;(
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1239392377 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-18-53.tukw.qwest.net
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1239394761 M * ktwilight_ hm, am gettin' "mount: /path/to/vserver/guest is not a block device" whenever i start my guest. is that normal? 0.30.216-pre2832 with 2.6.28.9-vs2.3.0.36.10
1239394798 M * ktwilight_ doesn't happen in .30.216-pre2827
1239395121 M * daniel_hozac try pre2833.
1239395573 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;)
1239395689 J * aurel42 marc@bong.a42.de
1239395722 M * ktwilight_ daniel_hozac, with pre2833, i get a "vcontext: pivot_root(): Invalid argument" instead
1239395999 M * daniel_hozac hmm, looks like we need a kernel change.
1239396013 M * aurel42 Hi, I tried the 2.6.29 kernel on Debian/sid, but it seems I'm running into a problem in the debootstrap phase. Do I need a newer util-vserver than "0.30.216~r2772" to make this work?
1239396191 M * ktwilight_ daniel_hozac, kernel change?
1239396223 M * daniel_hozac to get the desired behaviour.
1239396231 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: what is the problem, exactly?
1239396279 M * ktwilight_ hmm...does that mean pre2832 is broken? even thuogh it actually starts up?
1239396294 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1239396342 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: this is the last line in debootstrap.log: /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/etch/debootstrap.script: line 146: repeat: command not found
1239396347 M * ktwilight_ o~ fun :)
1239396397 M * ktwilight_ let's see if it's broken in .27.x
1239396406 M * daniel_hozac it is.
1239396446 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: not sure where "repeat" is supposed to come from (it's not a sh builtin, right?), but it seems to be caused by something going awry during required package installation.
1239396507 M * ktwilight_ dang :(
1239396516 M * ktwilight_ daniel_hozac, so which kernel+util-vserver works?
1239396519 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: none.
1239396522 M * daniel_hozac ktwilight_: none.
1239396524 M * ktwilight_ besides the stable on the main site
1239396526 M * ktwilight_ no way...
1239396537 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: it's probably from an older debootstrap version.
1239396554 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: try removing /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distrib/*/debootstrap.script and trying again.
1239396641 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: doing that now
1239396733 M * daniel_hozac ktwilight_: try removing the if (IS_MNT_SHARED(old.mnt) || IS_MNT_SHARED(new.mnt->mnt_parent) || IS_MNT_SHARED(root.mnt->mnt_parent))
1239396741 M * daniel_hozac block from fs/namespace.c:pivot_root.
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1239396851 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: thanks, that helped a lot.
1239396874 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: is there anythink I need to tweak manually now that the script didn't do its thing?
1239396886 M * daniel_hozac no.
1239396938 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what do we need?
1239396963 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: pivot_root currently doesn't allow shared mountpoints to be used.
1239397002 M * daniel_hozac which kind of makes the dual namespace thing suck a bit :-)
1239397006 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: I had to fix /etc/resolv.conf
1239397011 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm .. any idea why?
1239397016 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: you always have to do that.
1239397020 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: not yet...
1239397033 M * daniel_hozac aurel42: if you haven't setup /etc/vservers/.defaults/files/resolv.conf.
1239397034 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: ah, probably the debian magic that usually does that for me.
1239397052 M * ktwilight_ daniel_hozac, recompiling :)
1239397081 M * aurel42 daniel_hozac: I use "newvserver" for setup.
1239397113 M * Bertl aurel42: well, there is your problem :)
1239397117 M * aurel42 :D
1239397157 M * aurel42 well, I'll find out soon enough what else Debian usually does for me. ;)
1239397194 M * Bertl yeah, have fun, debian is really fun ... unless you want a working system, of course :)
1239397216 M * ktwilight_ it's great for anything besides the kernel. :)
1239397236 M * Bertl yeah sure ... dream on
1239397239 M * ktwilight_ haha
1239397244 A * ktwilight_ continues to dream
1239397256 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I see no problem in removing that check, but I presume it is there for some reason
1239397295 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: right. we should probably figure out why. :)
1239397360 M * Bertl ktwilight_: I'm really surprised that we do not have a horde of debian folks here, complaining about the missing scheduler stuff and the (very likely) broken chroot barrier ... but I guess most of them just assume it works :)
1239397392 M * ktwilight_ Bertl, in their vserver kernel? or vanilla?
1239397403 M * Bertl yep
1239397459 M * ktwilight_ blame 'em for not collaborating with you guys :)
1239397509 M * Bertl that's probably because we are all a bunch of evil bastards nobody can work with :)
1239397553 M * ktwilight_ haha
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1239397864 M * ktwilight_ daniel_hozac, Bertl, hmm, commenting those out works fine...
1239397886 M * ktwilight_ anyway i can test its integrity?
1239397897 M * ktwilight_ s/anyway/any way/
1239398064 M * Bertl well, the 'restrictions' part (in the comment) says that the new root must be on a different filesystem as the current 'process' root, which I think we do not meet anyways, daniel_hozac?
1239398093 M * Bertl but OTOH, we use the pivot for a different purpose
1239398139 M * daniel_hozac we do.
1239398152 M * daniel_hozac i mean, assuming /vservers is its own filesystem.
1239398155 M * Bertl I'd say, we should disable the check conditionally
1239398172 M * ktwilight_ what do you mean "own filesystem"? as in the guests are residing in its own partition?
1239398173 M * daniel_hozac yeah, if inside a context that's being setup or something.
1239398186 M * Bertl yep, thought about setup state
1239398191 M * Bertl would that suffice?
1239398236 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1239398371 M * daniel_hozac actually, not sure about that... but it should. i'm not sure what we do when migrating to a pivot-root context.
1239398393 M * Bertl do we need to pivot again?
1239398412 M * daniel_hozac no.
1239398418 M * daniel_hozac we already have the second namespace already pivoted.
1239398424 M * daniel_hozac we just have to enter that and cd to the new one.
1239398426 M * daniel_hozac i think.
1239398437 M * Bertl so, all we need is a way to select the namespace
1239398442 M * daniel_hozac we have that :)
1239398448 M * Bertl exactly!
1239398504 M * daniel_hozac i think everything should work the way its supposed to once that check is removed.
1239398618 M * daniel_hozac assuming the VFS doesn't get super unhappy with the shared root.
1239398664 M * Bertl I don't see why, as long as we do not introduce circular inheritance structures
1239398798 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1239399122 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-pivot-fix01.diff
1239399182 M * Bertl actually do we need to disable all checks?
1239399300 M * daniel_hozac no, i think that's the only check that matters.
1239399488 M * Bertl okay, ktwilight_ you are going to test this?
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1239400591 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1239401392 M * Bertl well, let's hope ... off to bed here now ... have fun!
1239401396 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1239401810 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1239402095 M * ktwilight_ sorry, can't. got an early day tomorrow, off to paris for the weekend. i'll do it when i come back, if no one else does it :)
1239403399 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
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1239406929 N * mog_away mog
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1239407347 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net