1239149284 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1239150122 J * FireEgl Sebastian@173.16.9.10 1239151391 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.145.201 1239152368 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1239152969 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1239155357 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.145.201 1239156025 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1239156906 Q * ser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239160085 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239160632 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1239162191 Q * GNUcifer Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239166338 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239166653 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1239166734 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1239167534 J * julius ~julius@hades.juliusroob.de 1239167893 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1239168732 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-18-53.tukw.qwest.net 1239168945 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1239170457 J * jze ~jesper@gw.comsys.informatik.uni-kiel.de 1239171992 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71 1239173960 J * dna ~dna@196-204-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1239174031 J * thierryp ~thierry@zircon.inria.fr 1239174204 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1239174531 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@host156-36-static.14-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1239174545 J * dna_ ~dna@176-202-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1239174980 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239175389 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1239175394 M * Bertl morning folks! 1239175409 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1239175488 M * thierryp Bertl: hello Herbert 1239176058 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1239176091 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239176317 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1239176510 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1239176785 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1239176788 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1239179052 Q * FloodServ Service unloaded 1239179230 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr 1239179346 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1239179499 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1239179716 Q * bourgeau Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239179852 Q * balbir_ Read error: Operation timed out 1239179970 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1239180281 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1239180284 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1239180518 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1239180780 J * esa bip@62.123.8.45 1239181242 J * esa` bip@62.123.8.156 1239181261 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239183107 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@euclide.rsr.lip6.fr 1239186556 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-65-213.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239186607 M * geb hi 1239188184 M * jze On the old vserver wiki there are not many pages left. http://linux-vserver.org/List_of_pages_not_migrated_yet 1239188214 M * jze If everybody on the channel would only transfer two or three pages to the new wiki the old one could be deactivated. 1239188751 M * thierryp daniel_hozac: hi Daniel 1239188773 M * thierryp have you got any plans to upgrade your vserver support to centos 5.3 ? 1239189911 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c193013.adsl.hansenet.de 1239190020 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239190020 N * saulus_ SauLus 1239190083 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1239190086 M * mugwump jze: you mean there are 218-327 pages left? :) 1239190220 M * jze mugwump: Are more than the 86 listed pages in the old wiki not migrated? 1239190411 M * mugwump well, there are 109 nicks in the channel, so two-three each means 218-327 1239190512 M * jze mugwump: ok, only 0.789 pages each :-) 1239191878 Q * balbir_ Read error: Operation timed out 1239192673 J * sitkarev ~sitkarev@ppp78-36-96-255.pppoe.komi.dslavangard.ru 1239192718 M * sitkarev Hello. Daniel are you here? I have some information to report concerning latest vserver patch. 1239192746 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239193048 M * sitkarev Latest vserver experiment patch vs2.3.0.36.9-pre2 has broken sparc support. :( 1239193357 M * pmjdebruijn there is already a pre3 1239193378 M * sitkarev Thank you. Is it worth trying on sparc? 1239193406 M * sitkarev We can do it no problem. If anybody needs compiler output we can send it immediately. 1239193424 M * sitkarev It seems that patch "forgot" to uncomment some places in the code for sparc. 1239193456 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1239194249 Q * sitkarev Read error: Connection reset by peer 1239194488 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-52-198.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239195029 J * sitkarev ~sitkarev@95-52-135-184.dynamic.komi.dslavangard.ru 1239195055 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239195544 M * sitkarev We tried to use pre3 version and result is the same. :( 1239195901 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection 1239196096 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239196220 M * sitkarev What do you think guys? Does anybody needs sparc compiler output on pre3 patch? 1239197602 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1239197631 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1239197636 M * Bertl back now ... 1239197660 M * Bertl sitkarev: yep, please upload any sparc related output 1239197671 M * sitkarev Where should i do that? 1239197677 M * sitkarev I mean.. Where to put this output? 1239197712 M * Bertl any pastebin will do 1239197749 M * sitkarev You mean I am to copy it into irc chat?? Sorry. I can send it by e-mail easily. 1239197761 M * Bertl paste.linux-vserver.org 1239197803 M * sitkarev Great thing. Excuse me. One minute please. 1239197848 M * sitkarev http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12818 1239197850 M * sitkarev Here it is. 1239197888 M * sitkarev And I also uncommented __NR_vserver in unistd.h because patch did not uncommented system call number definition. 1239198048 M * Bertl yeah, the machine where I used to do cross compiling tests, is unavailable since half a year ... 1239198076 M * sitkarev You can use our abilities to do that ))) 1239198085 M * sitkarev With great pleasure. 1239198103 M * Bertl well, do you have build account for me somewhere? that would help indeed 1239198135 M * sitkarev I will ask guys on that host if they can provide you access. Is ssh enough for you and non-privileged user rights? 1239198157 M * Bertl (i.e. some user account, with space for the kernel and the toolchain, as well as vi and cscope would be enough) 1239198168 M * Bertl actually vim 1239198178 M * sitkarev vim yes.. it has color and.. 1239198278 M * sitkarev They really need 2.6.29 with vserver because they have some problems with qlogic SCSI. I can't reach them now by phone but i am surely do that later. I suppose giving you a shell will not make any inconvinience for them. 1239199098 M * sitkarev Bertl: Just finished phone call. They have stopped machine for maintenance but will get it up soon. They will provide the shell. How can I contact you and supply login details? 1239199130 M * Bertl msg me here on IRC 1239199192 M * Bertl that's 64 bit sparc, right? 1239199315 M * ktwilight__ freebsd is coming to debian :) any possibility of having vserver in debian, or is it a moot idea? 1239199330 Q * jze 1239199350 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection 1239199363 M * Bertl ktwilight__: well, Linux-VServer was/is in debian .. what do you have in mind? 1239199364 M * sitkarev Yes 64 bit sparc. 1239199397 M * sitkarev I will message you as soon as they make shell and install cscope. 1239199460 M * sitkarev I think he means that you are to port vserver to freebsd kernel )) 1239199481 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: FreeBSD has it's own sort of vserver called jail. 1239199483 M * Bertl well, freebsd already has jails, primitive ones, but nevertheless ... 1239199516 M * Bertl and it would need a new project called FreeBSD-VServer to provide similar functionality :) 1239199531 M * ktwilight__ sitkarev, yes i know that 1239199541 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: It is based around jail system call. Some aspects of root are limited inside. I used to jail many years ago. But we moved all machines to vserver. 1239199542 M * ktwilight__ Bertl, yup 1239199601 M * ktwilight__ not sure about the differences in freebsd and linux kernel, but would there be a benefit of having a freebsd-vserver port? 1239199624 M * Bertl it's almost completely different :) 1239199624 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: It will be a complete rewriting of existing Linux-Vserver. 1239199651 M * ktwilight__ yay :) 1239199682 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: linux-vserver is pretty tied to internal kernel structures and they are completely different. 1239199689 M * ktwilight__ yup 1239199709 M * ktwilight__ am thinking more towards the concept and principles, rather than the kernel functionalities 1239199735 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: If you are about the concepts then probably you can make jail(2) better. 1239199752 M * ktwilight__ ah i see 1239199763 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: I've used jail and it was usefull at that time. 1239199920 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173.16.9.10 1239199940 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: If you study FreeBSD's kernel internal structures for processes, filesystems and VM subsystem you can try to improve jail(2). 1239199960 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1239199963 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: SysV IPC virtualization is also a good thing. I don't know if it is already implemented in it. 1239199965 M * ktwilight__ hm, never really had the opportunity to play with freebsd's kernel tbh. i have been using a freebsd jail though 1239200020 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: FreeBSD world also had ezjail project. It is a set of tools to make life with the jail easier. 1239200035 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: You can contribute to it. 1239200396 M * ktwilight__ ha! you've gotta be kidding me :) 1239200399 M * ktwilight__ i can't code 1239200472 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: Opensource world has many things to do except coding. 1239200479 M * sitkarev You can write and translate docs. 1239200504 M * ktwilight__ :) 1239200524 M * sitkarev ktwilight__: Wanna say english is the only language you know?? 1239200567 M * ktwilight__ i do contribute to open source, but only where i know i can ;) 1239200573 M * Bertl sitkarev: please try the pre4 I just uploaded 1239200608 M * sitkarev Bertl: Ok! 1239200850 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1239200858 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1239204252 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1239204307 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1239205004 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1239205150 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1239205190 Q * swen Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1239205419 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1239205935 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-52-198.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239206532 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1239207047 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1239207354 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239207674 J * urbi ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com 1239207675 M * urbi hi 1239207683 M * urbi rsync: Failed to exec c: No such file or directory (2) 1239207683 M * urbi rsync error: error in IPC code (code 14) at pipe.c(84) [receiver=3.0.5] 1239207755 M * urbi when i'm tryin to rsync a guest vserver to another machine 1239207757 M * urbi :S 1239207939 M * BenG I think that's an IP level problem, rather than a vserver one 1239208001 M * urbi ip level ? 1239208011 M * BenG you know, networking and all that 1239208026 M * urbi everything else works just fine 1239208029 M * urbi http://pastebin.com/m37261892 1239208037 M * urbi here's a strace 1239208057 M * urbi its a new clean install 1239208059 M * BenG you are syncing from a host or guest? 1239208063 M * urbi from host 1239208090 M * daniel_hozac you want an -fF 1239208117 M * urbi -fF ? 1239208122 M * daniel_hozac strace -fF 1239208158 M * urbi http://pastebin.com/m3bf83d5f 1239208205 M * urbi woops :) 1239208242 M * urbi http://pastebin.com/m27654ca1 1239208245 M * urbi this should be it 1239208285 M * daniel_hozac well, your rsync arguments are flawed. 1239208294 M * urbi yes, the last one should be fine 1239208304 M * daniel_hozac what? 1239208310 M * urbi http://pastebin.com/m27654ca1 1239208324 M * urbi u meant -fF i added to rsync :) 1239208338 M * daniel_hozac no, -fF was for strace. your rsync arguments are also flawed. 1239208350 M * daniel_hozac you're telling it to use a command called "c" to connect to the other machine. 1239208396 M * urbi ehh 1239208399 M * urbi is that 'e' too much ? 1239208406 M * BenG -aPxvzec 1239208416 M * BenG -e is followed by command name 1239208441 M * urbi -aPxvzc 1239208442 M * urbi then ? 1239208479 M * daniel_hozac -aPxvzce ssh is probably what you want, unless your rsync defaults to that. 1239208580 M * urbi thx 1239208623 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1239208716 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1239208936 J * thierryp ~thierry@zircon.inria.fr 1239209240 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1239209382 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1239209895 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau 1239209926 M * cehteh is it vserver or is it xfs .. i have a memory leak *in-kernel* aieeeh 1239209979 M * cehteh 2.6.28.3-vs2.3.0.36.4 1239210044 M * cehteh .. well i suspect XFS 1239210092 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239210271 N * pmenier pmenier_off 1239210381 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239210687 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1239210693 M * Bertl back now ... 1239210726 M * Bertl cehteh: I would suspect xfs too, but how do you see that the kernel leaks memory? 1239210760 M * Bertl sitkarev: does it work for you? 1239210899 M * sitkarev Yes. 1239210903 M * sitkarev Just got it. 1239210906 M * sitkarev THANKS a lot. 1239210927 M * sitkarev Those guys just reported success to compile the kernel. 1239210938 M * sitkarev Do you still need a shell on sparc?? 1239211105 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1239211166 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239211448 M * Bertl well, if everything compiles fine, I'm okay 1239211461 M * Bertl but if you get any compile warnings, we should look at them 1239211478 M * Bertl also run the testme.sh and testfs.sh on the new kernel 1239211757 M * sitkarev We'll do that. 1239211803 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1239212075 J * geb_ ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-12-4.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239212425 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239212595 Q * geb_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239213051 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F5B2D2.versanet.de 1239213140 J * geb_ ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-12-4.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1239213152 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239213301 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1239213368 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.148.224 1239213602 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239213613 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1239213690 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr 1239214117 J * larsivi ~larsivi@212251132182.customer.cdi.no 1239214159 M * cehteh hmpf 1239214177 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1239214609 J * larsivi_ ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com 1239214659 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239214726 Q * bourgeau Quit: bourgeau 1239214793 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.186.50 1239218619 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1239219044 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1239219045 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1239219561 Q * cehteh Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5 1239219586 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1239219649 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1239219810 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1239220093 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1239220680 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239220904 M * cehteh uhm ... i guess i found a problem 1239220910 M * cehteh Bertl: ping 1239220984 M * cehteh seq 5000000 | xargs touch .. eats kernel memory with delight (no buffers/cache) ... but freed when the filesystem gets umounted 1239221009 M * cehteh same for 'ls' and other operations on a dir with many files 1239221048 M * cehteh on another non-vserver box cache and buffers increase, but looks like no kernel memory is wasted 1239221073 M * daniel_hozac same kernel version and filesystem? 1239221086 M * cehteh tried with xfs and ext4 1239221093 M * cehteh kernel where different versions 1239221114 M * cehteh i now build a new kernel on the vserver with vserver disabled but everything kept the same 1239221115 M * daniel_hozac apples and oranges,t hen. 1239221120 M * cehteh yes sure 1239221130 M * cehteh but testing that is matter of hours 1239221151 M * cehteh is it sufficient to disable vserver or do i need to remove the patch? 1239221172 M * daniel_hozac you can't really disable vserver. 1239221182 M * cehteh guessed so 1239221232 M * cehteh ok removing the patch and then try again 1239221251 M * cehteh its a viaC3 .. really slow 1239221356 M * cehteh you didnt heard yet about the problem? .. because its not the most recent vserver 1239221372 M * cehteh 2.6.28.3-vs2.3.0.36.4 1239221380 M * daniel_hozac no. 1239221423 M * Bertl well, if you unmount it and it gets freed, it's not leaked, is it? 1239221456 M * Bertl I would opt for a creative caching on the xfs side :) 1239221493 M * Bertl the real question would be: is the memory available if needed? 1239221572 M * cehteh Bertl: same on ext4 1239221585 M * cehteh no the memory is not available .. server crashes 1239221604 M * cehteh its really kernel memory which gets used unswapable 1239221625 M * cehteh first it swaps all user processes out.. then it OOMs the rest and then it crashes 1239221646 M * cehteh and unfortunally i compiled the kernel without slabinfo 1239221698 M * cehteh this really sux .. i have a dir which accidentally filled up with 2.5 mio files or so (i cant even check that) 1239221714 M * cehteh and a ls, rm or any operation on it makes it crash 1239221747 M * Bertl try to enable debugging for inodes, semaphores and locks 1239221783 M * cehteh first i just use vanialla without vserver but exactly the same config .. ok? 1239221824 M * Bertl yep sure ... 1239221923 M * cehteh just takes hours to test .. the C3 is the last 32 bit box here and i have no distcc's for 32 bit anymore 1239221934 M * cehteh and it is my gateway/router :P 1239221994 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239222001 M * Bertl it is fairly trivial to build a 32bit kernel on any 64bit machine 1239222022 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1239222036 M * cehteh yes .. but to be exact i want to build it there with the same compiler and all 1239222060 M * Bertl well, be exact and build all of them on a fast x86_64 machine :) 1239222145 M * cehteh well yes .. but i want to do other things meanwhile 1239222174 M * cehteh first of all i just wanted to know if anyone of you can confirm this problem or heared about it 1239222185 M * Bertl so? use ionice and nice to limit the building to idle time 1239222188 M * cehteh later i can try on a 64 bit server too 1239222214 M * Bertl no, haven't heard or seen of unusual memory allocations yet 1239222271 Q * nenolod Remote host closed the connection 1239222327 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1239222760 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1239222771 Q * BenG 1239223095 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1239223568 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1239223744 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1239223835 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1239224791 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1239226109 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone, cya! 1239226114 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1239226481 J * bourgeau ~bourgeau@pha75-12-82-245-87-245.fbx.proxad.net 1239227488 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1239227621 J * Kojiri ~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net 1239228018 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1239228156 Q * larsivi_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1239228165 J * larsivi ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com 1239228279 P * Kojiri 1239229096 Q * geb_ Quit: Quitte 1239229231 Q * sitkarev Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1239231046 N * bzed help 1239231056 N * help bzed 1239231279 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239231291 Q * padde Remote host closed the connection 1239231336 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1239231781 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1239231814 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1239231896 J * larsivi ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com 1239232602 Q * bourgeau Ping timeout: 480 seconds