1238458822 Q * ichavero_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238458822 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238461588 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@189.155.145.201 1238461868 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1238464713 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1238469255 Q * ichavero_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238476273 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F54235.versanet.de 1238476377 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238476494 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238477244 Q * sunkencity Quit: sunkencity 1238477922 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@98.21.204-77.rev.gaoland.net 1238478143 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c145167.adsl.hansenet.de 1238478485 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1238478555 Q * saulus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238478555 N * saulus_ SauLus 1238478816 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238479700 J * esa bip@62.123.8.44 1238479904 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1238479955 Q * kir 1238480299 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.145.201 1238480310 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@189.155.145.201 1238480911 J * cluk ~cluk@p5B17F874.dip.t-dialin.net 1238480914 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71 1238481411 Q * esa Remote host closed the connection 1238481417 J * esa bip@62.123.8.44 1238481715 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238481876 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1238482828 J * sunkencity ~joel@c-4f66dd33-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1238483342 J * esa` bip@62.123.8.44 1238483362 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238483687 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1238483697 M * Bertl morning folks! 1238483862 M * fb hello Bertl :) 1238483975 Q * esa` Remote host closed the connection 1238483985 J * esa bip@62.123.8.44 1238485501 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1238485536 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1238485870 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1238486152 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1238486181 Q * sunkencity Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238487019 J * sunkencity ~joel@81-232-47-162-no38.business.telia.com 1238487056 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1238487343 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238487343 Q * ichavero_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238488235 M * sunkencity every time i set up a debian vserver on gentoo i need to relink (ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/fd ) even though the link seems fine in the there in source tarball 1238488247 M * sunkencity how can I fix that? 1238488336 M * Bertl source tarball? 1238488336 M * cehteh you have udev inside the vserver? 1238488396 M * sunkencity i dont think i have udev in there 1238488419 M * Bertl nah, it's more likely it is related to the way the guest is cleaned up 1238488433 M * sunkencity i have built a tarball with debootstrap 1238488438 M * sunkencity on a debian machine 1238488450 M * Bertl i.c. why not build the guest with debootstrap directly? 1238488451 M * sunkencity maybe i should not pass -d debian when i build? 1238488461 M * sunkencity can i do that on gentoo host? 1238488464 M * Bertl sure 1238488508 M * Bertl but the tarball should be fine too, I was just wondering 1238488535 M * sunkencity the build script seems to do something to the tarball too 1238488536 M * cehteh anyone ever tried vserver+smack? 1238488546 M * sunkencity i get apt/sources.list replaced 1238488549 M * sunkencity with crap 1238488559 M * Bertl what util-vserver version? 1238488588 M * sunkencity 0.30.215 1238488595 M * sunkencity 214 sorry 1238488601 M * Bertl you might want to update to a more recent one 0.30.216 1238488643 M * Bertl and if the issue remains, talk to daniel_hozac ... leaving out the distro (-d) part should avoid the cleanups, I think 1238488687 M * sunkencity ok thanks, I'll try building without -d the next time :) and try 216 on a dev box! 1238488763 M * sunkencity seems to be a some gentoo portage blocks to take care of to upgrade to 216 from the current state 1238490032 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl 1238490037 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1238490324 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1238490539 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1238491094 J * bono bono@118-168-236-199.dynamic.hinet.net 1238491517 Q * MooingLemur Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238492344 M * ghislainocfs2 any user of the debian util-vserver here ? 1238492369 M * ghislainocfs2 i installed the lenny version and i cannot find any services files like vprocunhide etc... 1238492417 M * cehteh better deinstall and build your own :P 1238492436 M * cehteh could be that you are the only user if the debian package :) 1238492507 M * cluk ghislainocfs2: still running debian etch here, util-vserver is working fine there. 1238492872 M * hijacker_ ghislainocfs2, do you try to run those as root? 1238492926 M * hijacker_ /etc/init.d/vprocunhide 1238493232 M * bzed 1 root@ni:~# dlocate vprocunhide 1238493232 M * bzed util-vserver: /usr/lib/util-vserver/defaults/vprocunhide-files 1238493232 M * bzed util-vserver: /usr/lib/util-vserver/vprocunhide 1238493244 M * bzed everything there 1238493262 M * bzed cehteh: that's bullshit, sorry. 1238493310 M * cehteh :) 1238493329 M * ghislainocfs2 it is on lenny and yes i am root ;p 1238493359 M * ghislainocfs2 bzed: but why is it not in /etc/init.d ? 1238493370 J * ThinkLINUX ~marco@83.98.245.70 1238493412 M * ghislainocfs2 cluk: i tried building my own but i failed, i am not fluent in debian packages making 1238493452 M * cluk ghislainofs2: vprocunhide is normaly run from /etc/init.d/util-vserver afaik 1238493554 M * ghislainocfs2 cluk: ok i see 1238493772 M * ghislainocfs2 thanks for the hint, on source install you got plenty of files in /etc/init.d here only one 1238493804 Q * ThinkLINUX Quit: Ex-Chat 1238493928 J * ThinkLINUX ~marco@83.98.245.70 1238494465 J * Moo ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com 1238494737 J * dna ~dna@138-202-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1238494887 J * Punkie ~Punkie@2a01:5f0:1:80:216:d4ff:fe05:5987 1238495807 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1238496013 P * sunkencity 1238496442 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238496827 M * Pazzo Hi @ll! I recently moved some old 32bit vServers to a new 64bit host, it seems that I forgot something, dhcpd is no longer working. NET_RAW is set in bcapabilities, no special bcast is set. Do I still need to do something "manually" to allow access to 255.255.255.255? 1238496851 M * Pazzo Btw: Kernel is 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 1238497189 M * Pazzo Forget it, solved. Thnx anyways :) 1238497660 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238499099 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-2-061.ethz.ch 1238499424 J * salva ~salva@26.Red-80-26-83.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1238499468 J * xdr ~xdr@62.88.128.188 1238501303 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: Leaving 1238501635 J * thierryp ~thierry@zircon.inria.fr 1238501704 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1238501942 J * esa bip@62.123.8.44 1238502144 J * thermoman ~thermoman@84.201.90.210 1238502227 M * thermoman it's a bit offtopic: does anybody know how to create virtual NICs earch with a different MAC? want to test a loadbalancer. multimac (http://www.primianotucci.com/default.php?view=57) doesn't work, each interface has the same MAC. same with eth0:0 aliasing. any ideas? 1238502546 M * pmjdebruijn thermoman: I'm not sure vserver is the best tool to test this? 1238502617 M * thermoman i'm just here because some people in here might know how to do this :) 1238502639 M * thermoman i confirmed linux-vserver uses same MAC for each guest 1238502657 M * pmjdebruijn you could wait... maybe someone else knows 1238502669 M * thermoman so i really need to use vmware for this little stupid test... 1238502879 Q * xdr Quit: leaving 1238502953 M * ghislainocfs2 vserver use the kernel networking (apart for the loopback special handling) 1238502978 M * ghislainocfs2 all is in the host so i do not think it can change the mac or that there is any tool for that in vserver 1238502988 M * ghislainocfs2 if this exist i would be happy to know 1238502989 M * ghislainocfs2 :) 1238503068 M * pmjdebruijn thermoman: or virtualbox 1238503072 M * pmjdebruijn thermoman: or xen 1238503089 M * pmjdebruijn vserver isn't true virtualization... it's just containerization (or whatever you'd like to call it) 1238503202 M * thermoman yeah 1238503222 M * thermoman for virtualbox i need a bridge 1238503232 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238503242 M * thermoman bridge has same MAC as physical device 1238503249 M * thermoman so there is only xen/vmware 1238504398 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1238507971 M * Bertl_oO thermoman: you could get a very recent kernel and use the network namespace to create a separate network interface inside the guest 1238507978 M * Bertl_oO (and bridge that on the host) 1238508016 M * daniel_hozac you could just use macvlan. 1238508029 M * Bertl_oO good point, should work too 1238508111 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: btw, did you read/answer my question regarding the memory limit off by one, you commented on? 1238508151 M * daniel_hozac SEMARY/NSEMS are only incremented, not decremented. 1238508176 M * Bertl_oO aha, hmm, so we are talking about two different issues, I presume 1238508202 M * Bertl_oO I'm referring to the as/locked values, IIRC 1238508237 M * daniel_hozac ah. i must have missed that. 1238508268 M * Bertl_oO but good to know that the SEMS are incorrect too ... will fix that soon 1238508390 M * Bertl_oO I think I fixed the as/locked values with the latest change in 2.6.29 already 1238508637 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: do you know, by any chance, which kernels are affected by the SEMARY/NSEMS issue? 1238508739 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.27+, i think. 1238508936 Q * mog Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1238509670 M * Bertl_oO okay, uploaded a patch which should fix the sem stuff (untested) 1238509803 J * dowdle ~dowdle@153.90.195.54 1238510061 J * bliz42 ~kdsmith@fw.cpetracking.com 1238510254 M * bliz42 good morning 1238510347 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.63 1238510469 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238510673 N * yangp yang 1238510687 Q * ThinkLINUX Quit: Ex-Chat 1238511009 A * bliz42 yawns 1238513375 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1238513528 M * bliz42 hmm. if anyone is around, I have a few vservers setup on a private network using dummy0 on my machine, and after starting up the vservers with the private network it seems to overwrite my container boxes dummy0 network config with one of (likely the last to start up) network configuration. 1238513628 M * bliz42 hmm.. but after reconfiguring my container, if i stop and start the vserver it doesn't overwrite it again. 1238514018 M * bliz42 well, i am unable to reproduce. it happened after a reboot, but i'm not in a position where i can reboot this server at this time, so I will wait until later and if I can reproduce it consistently I'll look more into it. 1238514847 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1238515434 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238515503 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1238515771 Q * bliz42 Quit: bliz42 1238516389 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.144.106.114 1238516390 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@201.144.106.114 1238516423 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1238516519 J * bourgeau_ ~bourgeau@tomsoieur.fr 1238516520 Q * bourgeau Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238516655 Q * kiorky_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238516765 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1238517160 J * aaronyy_ ~aaronyy@cpe-74-72-228-187.nyc.res.rr.com 1238517429 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1238517657 Q * aaronyy_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1238517719 J * esa bip@62.123.8.44 1238518039 J * aaronyy_ ~aaronyy@cpe-74-72-228-187.nyc.res.rr.com 1238518376 J * esa` bip@62.123.8.44 1238518386 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238518578 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net 1238518946 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238520285 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1238520472 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1238520781 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1238520935 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1238520983 M * Bertl back now ... 1238521650 Q * Punkie Quit: Leaving 1238521855 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1238522984 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-66-24.tukw.qwest.net 1238523266 Q * nenolod Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238523620 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238523718 J * nenolod nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1238524419 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1238524890 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1238524950 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.187.144 1238525200 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180192152.adsl.alicedsl.de 1238525631 Q * ichavero_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238525631 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238525730 Q * cga Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238526091 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1238526213 J * scientes_ ~scientes@75-165-83-47.tukw.qwest.net 1238526232 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1238526490 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238527282 J * cga ~weechat@82.84.128.26 1238527496 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1238528517 Q * cluk Quit: Ex-Chat 1238528575 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238528957 M * tanjix1 i want to build a new kernel with the latest pre2 patch for 2.6.29 from 29th march... can i jsut copy the .config of the pre1-patched kernel to the new one? 1238528990 N * tanjix1 tanjix 1238529321 M * bonbons tanjix1: usually yes, just run make oldconfig and you should be fine 1238529380 M * Bertl (all new options will be asked) 1238529381 M * bonbons Bertl: is it expected that pre2 for 2.6.29 does not allocate new uts an user contexts? 1238529447 M * bonbons (don't remember by heart which version of utils I have on the box, 0.30.215 I guess) 1238529510 M * bonbons Bertl: exactly same userspace works correctly with 2.6.28.8-vs2.3.0.36.8 1238529519 M * Bertl uts should be allocated, user space is kind of implicit now 1238529530 M * tanjix make oldconfig tells me: boolean smybol IPV6 tested for 'm'? test forced to 'n' 1238529556 M * Bertl yeah, nobody understood that one, I guess :) 1238529583 M * tanjix so i can just "ignore" this? ;) 1238529613 M * bonbons Bertl: well it does not seem to do so so with 2.6.29, and cat /proc/$$/nsproxy inside guest indicates that only 2 spaces were unshared, all the rest remained same as hosts, e.g. (I) 1238529643 M * Bertl user namespace should not be listed in nsproxy anymore, so how do you tell? 1238529702 M * bonbons not sure I remember exactly as I don't have that box running right nox to check, but I'm certain uts was share (and guests did thus overwrite host's hostname) 1238529743 M * Bertl let me check that ... sec 1238529842 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12806 (that is with 0.30.211) 1238529871 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1238529941 M * Bertl hmm, but with 0.30.216, I get a different behaviour ... investigating now 1238531538 M * tanjix i built my new kern 1238531555 M * tanjix but when i install it, i get an error (in german :( ). maybe some has an idea? 1238531570 M * tanjix dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von linux-image-2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre2vserver_2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre2vserver-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb (--install): 1238531570 M * tanjix Versuche, »/lib/firmware/atmsar11.fw« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket linux-image-2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre1vserver ist 1238531570 M * tanjix dpkg-deb: Unterprozess paste mit Signal (Datenübergabe unterbrochen (broken pipe)) getötet 1238531570 M * tanjix Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: 1238531570 M * tanjix linux-image-2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre2vserver_2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.9-pre2vserver-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb 1238531593 M * Bertl yeah, use export LC_ALL=C LANG=C .. and paste.linux-vserver.org :0 1238531690 M * tanjix ok ;) 1238531698 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12807 1238531762 M * Bertl well, it tells you, that your package contains firmware which is also present in another package 1238531784 M * Bertl either override and ignore it, or uninstall the other package ... btw, nice name for the kernel :) 1238531840 M * tanjix i don't know why is hat a sooooo long name :( 1238531845 M * tanjix it has ... 1238531883 M * Bertl I'm sure some debian folks know why ... but hey, it looks unique :) 1238531891 M * sid3windr yeah 1238531901 M * sid3windr make-kpkg & firmware = buggy sucks. 1238531986 M * tanjix can i uninstall the running kernel? 1238531994 M * tanjix i don't think so? 1238532024 M * Bertl well, I'd rather force the install than remove the kernel you know to boot ... 1238532279 M * tanjix mh i don't see a "force"-option in dpkg? 1238532325 M * Bertl well, I hope there is one, but I'm not using debian, so I can't help there 1238532359 M * tanjix maybe anyone else here can? ;) 1238532564 M * Bertl maybe try #debian ? 1238532760 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23C92B.dip.t-dialin.net 1238532909 M * fb time to get some sleep. good night everyone. 1238533414 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: still around? 1238534053 M * Bertl bonbons: hmm, yep, the change to the user namespace messes up util-vserver 1238534124 Q * bourgeau_ Quit: bourgeau_ 1238534152 M * bonbons Bertl: thanks for investigating, I will have to wait a bit until I can benefit from vserver and KMS at the same time on my laptop, but there is no real hurry either 1238534337 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: it seems in 2.6.29, it is not allowed to unshare/clone the user namespace .. not sure where it is used/allowed anymore .. but the problem seems to be that when the kernel provides the space mask (including the CLONE_NEWUSER), then cloning/unsharing fails silently ... I commented the user namespace out for now, but that means that there have to be other mechanisms to activate it properly ... 1238534766 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1238534776 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1238535245 M * tanjix the latest patch still has nbot solved my issue with the first patch (both for 2.6.29) 1238535310 M * tanjix after stopping a guest i still get the following in my syslog: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12808 1238535763 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1238535976 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1238536269 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1238536451 J * marcfiu ~marcfiu@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1238536470 P * marcfiu 1238536991 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.76 1238537276 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238537393 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-253-1-55-99.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr 1238537398 M * geb hi guys 1238537590 M * geb http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12809 , is there any problem with this message ? 1238537646 M * geb i just followed http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_manage_a_multi-guest_setup_with_vhashify.3F 1238537658 M * daniel_hozac looks like you already had the symlink setup. 1238537817 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1238537952 M * geb you are right, ( http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12810 ) , should i remove /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vunify/hash/root ? 1238537965 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1238537982 M * geb thanks :) 1238538384 M * geb can i add this to http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Vhashify ? 1238538397 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1238538401 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1238540165 M * geb hum there is something that i don't understand: 1238540176 M * geb i have a vserver with a kernel source + build ( du -sh /usr/src says about 700mo ) 1238540216 M * geb i haven't any other vserver with this source (so the files mustn't being hashifyed) 1238540229 Q * cga Quit: got a DELL??? update you BIOS with http://github.com/cga/dellbiosupdate.sh/tree/master ;) 1238540240 M * geb but now the vserver seems to only use 85mo of disk ! 1238540303 M * daniel_hozac how do you tell? 1238540318 M * geb vdu --xid sandbox --space /var/lib/vservers/ 1238540318 M * geb /var/lib/vservers/ 86444 1238540345 M * daniel_hozac which means those files did get hashified. 1238540424 M * geb how ? if i have those files in only one vserver ? 1238540475 M * daniel_hozac that's not how hashification works. hashification links every file that isn't excluded into the hash store. it can't tell whether more guests are using it until you've hashified them all. 1238540501 M * daniel_hozac and there's no "break links for files that aren't shared" step, since it only operates on one guest at a time. 1238540595 M * geb hum ... ok :) 1238540607 M * geb i'll have to add few exclude lines so :) 1238541873 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1238541874 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1238542031 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds