1237076218 J * uva ~bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237076542 Q * bono Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237076664 J * Philadelphia bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237077075 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237079299 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237079510 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.217.178 1237081806 J * uva ~bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237082000 Q * Slydder1 Quit: Leaving. 1237082130 Q * Philadelphia Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237082167 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1237082278 J * jpablo ~chatzilla@186.81.86.253 1237083605 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237084344 M * Bertl off to bed now ... cya! 1237084351 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1237084976 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1237085855 J * saulus ~saulus@c135172.adsl.hansenet.de 1237085901 J * Philadelphia ~bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237086006 Q * Philadelphia Max SendQ exceeded 1237086052 J * Philadelphia bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237086230 Q * saulus_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237086269 J * bono ~bono@118-168-238-235.dynamic.hinet.net 1237086269 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237086386 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1237086596 Q * Philadelphia Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237087956 P * jpablo 1237087976 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23C244.dip.t-dialin.net 1237088406 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237090889 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1237091030 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1237099856 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-16-192.tukw.qwest.net 1237102839 J * doener ~doener@i59F56160.versanet.de 1237105895 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237106135 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237107629 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1237107690 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1237109435 Q * doener Read error: Connection reset by peer 1237109999 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@80.69.42.51 1237110108 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-074-045-073.pools.arcor-ip.net 1237110173 Q * Slydder1 1237110192 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-074-045-073.pools.arcor-ip.net 1237110834 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1237110885 J * doener ~doener@i59F56160.versanet.de 1237112578 J * wenonah ~homayoun@61.148.115.250 1237112579 M * wenonah Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip 1237112579 P * wenonah 1237113196 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.244.cust.blixtvik.net 1237113545 J * PowerKe_ ~tom@94-224-78-200.access.telenet.be 1237113737 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237113864 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237114709 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180195092.adsl.alicedsl.de 1237116598 Q * PowerKe_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237117890 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1237120482 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-224-78-200.access.telenet.be 1237121277 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1237121890 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1237122000 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch 1237124071 J * xdr_ ~xdr@gote2.244.cust.blixtvik.net 1237124180 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237124638 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1237126572 Q * balbir__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237127787 Q * bono Quit: Leaving 1237130502 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1237131955 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.244.cust.blixtvik.net 1237132061 Q * xdr_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237132543 J * balbir__ ~balbir@122.172.62.146 1237134143 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1237134674 Q * oo Remote host closed the connection 1237134767 J * matthew-1 ~ms@ns2.wellquite.org 1237134891 Q * matthew-_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237135155 J * jakob ~chatzilla@0x57398926.hcnqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk 1237135175 J * oo ~oo@64.28.12.166 1237135363 M * jakob I am trying to install a hardy guest, I can create the guest but when I start it it freezes after after displaying "Starting kernel log daemon..." 1237135371 M * jakob does anyone know why? 1237135395 M * pmjdebruijn have you tried disabling it? 1237135406 M * pmjdebruijn a guest can't do everything with the kernel as the host can 1237135470 M * jakob disabling the kernel log daemon? 1237135475 M * pmjdebruijn in the guest yes 1237135480 M * pmjdebruijn not on the host 1237135507 M * pmjdebruijn chroot guest update-rc.d -f klogd remove 1237135513 M * jakob no I'm kind of new with vserver, so I don't know what I can do without harming the system 1237135513 M * pmjdebruijn be careful with that 1237135531 M * jakob ok, I'll try 1237135535 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1237135560 M * jakob no need to be carful :-) it's a test system (also the vserver host) 1237135577 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237135639 M * pmjdebruijn be aware that vserver is _not_ full vitualization 1237135815 M * jakob no, I know - it's more like isolation 1237135894 M * fb jakob: you can (and have to) safely disable klogd, it won't work inside guest system 1237135936 M * jakob fb: yes I am trying right now 1237136424 M * fb jakob: you can also consider switching to rsyslog 1237136595 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1237138013 M * jakob It worked turning off tklogd 1237138027 J * independence independen@titan.blinkenshell.org 1237138030 M * jakob now it starts up, but there are other problems 1237138036 M * independence How do I add an ipv6 address to a running guest? 1237138043 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1237138050 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1237138057 M * Bertl back now ... 1237138073 M * Bertl independence: the same you add an ipv4 one 1237138083 M * independence naddress ? 1237138088 M * Bertl jakob: what problems? 1237138108 M * jakob I have created a virtual network device 1237138114 M * jakob eth0:1 1237138170 M * jakob When I start up in the gust system and run a ifconfig I have 2 network interfaces (eth0, eth0:1) 1237138197 M * Bertl jakob: there are no virtual network devices in Linux-VServer 1237138217 M * jakob no I created it on the host 1237138220 M * Bertl what you mean is an alias (eth0:1) 1237138225 M * jakob yes 1237138227 M * jakob sorry 1237138231 M * Bertl np 1237138243 M * Bertl and you gave both IPs to the guest, yes? 1237138254 M * Bertl or just the alias IP? 1237138260 M * jakob just the alias ip 1237138292 M * Bertl okay, so there is your problem, the guest will show an eth0 without IP and the eth0:1 with IP 1237138303 M * jakob and edited the /etc/vserver/guest/interfaces/0/dev afterwards 1237138309 M * Bertl if you avoid the (outdated) alias, and just assign the IP to eth0 1237138318 M * Bertl then the guest will show eth0 with the guest IP 1237138354 M * jakob wait 1237138369 M * jakob you're saying I don't have to create aliases on the host? 1237138425 J * bono bono@118-160-165-15.dynamic.hinet.net 1237138479 M * Bertl correct, just put eth0 in dev and the ip/prefix in the coresponding files 1237138494 M * Bertl util-vserver will add the IP to eth0, and your guest will see it 1237138516 M * jakob Cool! 1237138524 M * jakob I wasn't aware, thanks! 1237138575 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1237138590 P * independence 1237138605 M * jakob I'm trying now - maybe I'll be back :-) 1237139132 M * jakob Bertl: Yeah! 1237139188 M * Bertl \o/ 1237139233 M * jakob I am wondering one more thing right now 1237139235 M * fb hello Bertl :) 1237139243 M * jakob localhost: 127.0.0.1 1237139261 M * Bertl fb: hey! 1237139262 M * jakob does the host not know itself? 1237139271 M * jakob I mean the guest 1237139280 M * Bertl hmm? 1237139285 M * jakob ping 127.0.0.1 gives nothing 1237139310 M * Bertl what kernel/patch are you using, and what is your guest config? 1237139361 M * jakob oh wait, it seems like it is just ping that doesn't work 1237139376 M * jakob I tried ssh 127.0.0.1 instead, it seems to work 1237139386 M * Bertl well, ping is not the best mechanism to check 1237139395 M * jakob :-) 1237139403 M * Bertl could for example be blocked by your firewall 1237139430 M * jakob yes 1237139448 M * jakob ok thanks again, I have enough to go with now :-) 1237139466 M * Bertl you're welcome! feel free to hang around ... 1237139760 Q * bono Quit: Leaving 1237142248 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1237142341 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4 1237142644 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1237142724 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1237144377 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-16-192.tukw.qwest.net 1237144816 M * jakob I'm trying to use vserver-copy, it expects that the server I am copying (template) has a /etc/vservers/template.conf entry. 1237144843 M * Bertl don't use it 1237144845 M * jakob But such a file has not been generated along with the server 1237144848 M * jakob ok? 1237144862 M * Bertl it's outdated and except for debian, nobody keeps it around 1237144863 M * jakob deprecated? 1237144867 M * jakob :-D 1237144872 M * Bertl since like 5 years or so 1237144874 M * jakob what then? 1237144877 M * jakob :-D 1237144893 M * Bertl do you have a template (i.e. tar file) or a template guest? 1237144902 M * jakob a template guest 1237144929 M * Bertl then one of the clone or rsync build methods is the way to go 1237144941 M * Bertl check 'vserver - buil --help' 1237144944 M * Bertl *build 1237144955 M * jakob ok will do. 1237144978 M * Bertl the 'clone' build emthod can be used to build unified guests in a single step 1237144996 M * Bertl the 'rsync' build method allows you to copy the guest over network too 1237145141 M * jakob ok, so in my case working with a single host clone should do the job. 1237145145 M * jakob right? 1237145175 M * Bertl yes, will do, just specify the same arguments as for a new build (i.e. for a debootstrap) 1237145191 M * Bertl plus the reference to the 'template guest' 1237145292 J * bono bono@118.168.232.143 1237148056 Q * duckx Read error: No route to host 1237148140 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1237148712 J * dna ~dna@53-215-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1237149037 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.144.240 1237149265 Q * jakob Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030422] 1237149271 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237149585 Q * bono Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237149911 J * DelTree ~deplagne@goldorak3.eric.deplagne.name 1237150009 M * DelTree hi... I'm looking for documentation about vserver-info... I'm surprised I don't find it... 1237150035 M * Bertl what kind of documentation are you looking for? 1237150611 M * DelTree like what the tags mean... I just get the list of them by vserver-info -l... 1237150622 M * DelTree maybe I just missed something obvious... ^_^ 1237150759 M * Bertl well, except for the well known 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' the tool is mainly used internally from the various scripts 1237150819 M * Bertl nevertheless, most of the tags are quite descriptive, so it's not too ahrd to 'guess' them .. but yes, there is not much documentation available for them (yet) ... feel free to add something to the wiki 1237150838 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1237150842 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1237150871 M * DelTree ok... in fact I might as well ask about the problem that made me go into the scripts in the first place... 1237150886 M * Bertl hehe, not the worst idea :) 1237150921 M * DelTree maybe I also need to say it's on debian etch... 1237150937 M * Bertl that usually explains a lot too, yes :) 1237151056 M * DelTree in fact I'm trying to use two lvm logical volumes as the vserver / and /var/mail... 1237151076 M * Bertl okay, so far so good 1237151085 M * DelTree I've set-up some lines in the /etc/vservers/exim/fstab... 1237151090 M * DelTree /dev/mapper/vg2-exim / ext3 defaults 0 0 1237151095 M * DelTree /dev/mapper/vg2-mail /var/mail ext3 defaults 0 0 1237151098 M * DelTree like this... 1237151114 M * Bertl okay, that's all? 1237151135 M * DelTree and inside the vserver... / is renamed to /dev/hdv1... but /var/mail remains /dev/mapper/vg2-mail... 1237151182 M * Bertl yep, but you can adjust that to your likings 1237151215 M * DelTree and in fact I just don't know if that's a problem... but I don't like / and /var/mail not working the same way... 1237151222 M * Bertl (i.e. it is jsut the entry in /path/to/guest/etc/mtab) 1237151228 M * DelTree where can I adjust that ? 1237151244 M * Bertl there is an mtab file (option) for each guest in the config too 1237151262 M * Bertl but it is just cosmetical 1237151305 M * DelTree is the fact that the / of the vserver is not mounted on the host of any importance ? 1237151325 M * Bertl nope, same is (by default) true for the mail dir 1237151354 M * Bertl Linux-VServer guests use private namespaces for filesystem isolation 1237151485 M * DelTree so where do I change that ? 1237151504 M * Bertl you mean the mtab entry? 1237151525 M * DelTree yes... 1237151527 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1237151548 M * Bertl search for 'mtab' 1237151555 M * Bertl there is a default and one per guest 1237151664 M * fb Bertl: one quick question, what should lsatts / showattr show on vserver and on mountpoints inside? 1237151691 M * Bertl nothing unusual 1237151729 M * DelTree I just don't have /etc/vservers/.defaults/init... looks like I have to browse the page... ^_^ 1237151770 M * Bertl well, 's okay that some directories and most files are missing 1237151776 M * Bertl *it's 1237151798 M * fb Bertl: i can see B (that means barrier set, right?) on vservers directory, and b on dirs inside 1237151819 M * Bertl that's definitely wrong 1237151833 M * Bertl the barrier is placed _above_ the guest root 1237151847 M * Bertl i.e. /path/to/guest/.. (the '..' is literally) 1237152018 M * fb Bertl: that's possibly my fault, every guest resides on its own filesystem 1237152050 M * Bertl that's fine, still the barrier has to be placed in the same way :) 1237152050 M * fb Bertl: i created mountpoints manually before creating them, and surely made them wrong 1237152099 M * Bertl I'm really glad that the barrier stuff is going away :) 1237152115 M * Bertl it is one of those things folks always get wrong 1237152127 M * fb strange 1237152138 M * fb /path/to/guest/.. shows B again 1237152401 M * Bertl which is fine, but /path/to/guest should/must be 'b' 1237152461 M * Bertl (otherwise your guest won't start :) 1237152465 M * fb and it is. Thanks for your time! :) 1237152475 M * Bertl np 1237152508 M * fb vserver - build cares about propper attrs i suppose? 1237152535 M * Bertl usually, yes 1237152864 M * fb that's it for today. se you! 1237152871 M * Bertl cya 1237152902 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1237153490 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1237156138 J * amine ~amine@213.132.255.233 1237156376 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1237158061 Q * Slydder1 Quit: Leaving. 1237158305 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1237158374 Q * amine Quit: Ex-Chat 1237158943 Q * posixninja Quit: Leaving 1237161099 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1237161119 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1237161280 J * n01101111x ~nox@static.80.95.46.78.clients.your-server.de 1237161485 Q * n01101111x