1236297612 M * Bertl maybe back then you had a real initrd 1236297629 M * Bertl try to loop mount it or load it into a ram disk 1236297659 M * maio yes loop works but it's readonly 1236297727 M * Bertl yeah copy it somewhere, change it, build a new 'read only' file 1236297762 M * Bertl if you are using a new kernel, then cpio is the way to go 1236297899 Q * sebastiandeutsch Quit: sebastiandeutsch 1236297980 M * dwery mugwump:, Bertl: I have some work which will keep me busy for 3/4 weeks, after that I should have more spare time. Meanwhile I'll study the source code to make me more comfortable with it and will ask some questions here and there, trying to understand i there's a chance to hae vserver includd i the kernel 1236298076 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1236298532 M * Bertl dwery: fine with me, be my guest with the questions ... 1236298636 M * dwery Bertl: I will right now, may I? I'm just doing a make oldconfig 1236298650 M * Bertl sure 1236298695 M * dwery VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK . is used to assign an IP like 127.0.0.x ? 1236298870 M * Bertl kind of, actually it assign an IP like 127.x.y.1 1236298881 M * Bertl where x.y coresponds to the context number 1236298897 M * dwery ok. 1236298912 M * dwery so you can use it for communications between the host and the guest 1236298972 M * Bertl nope, it is used to give a guest the illusion of having a separate 'virtualized' lo 1236298978 M * Bertl (lo as in localhost) 1236298981 M * dwery ok 1236299001 M * dwery is that useful? :) 1236299013 M * Bertl bascially 127. is mapped to that IP, and that IP is mapped back to 127.0.0.1 (between userspace and kernel space) 1236299014 A * dwery still have to learn much things.. 1236299039 M * Bertl that means, you can do guest private traffic to/from 127.0.0.1 1236299130 M * dwery what about VSERVER_DEVICE? 1236299150 M * Bertl what does the help say? 1236299163 M * dwery enables generic device remapping 1236299183 M * dwery I gave a look at the code too 1236299202 M * Bertl that basically allows you to do what the mainline 'device namespace' is planned for 1236299224 M * Bertl plus that it provides a way to actually 'remap' the devices 1236299236 M * dwery to et a guest use them 1236299237 M * dwery ? 1236299238 M * Bertl i.e. make a tty appear as console (device) 1236299266 M * Bertl yep, but it is a feature and not required for Linux-VServer to work 1236299274 M * dwery ok 1236299313 M * dwery VSERVER_HARDCPU differs from the cpuset ting? 1236299326 M * Bertl yep, what kernel are you configuring atm? 1236299332 M * dwery 2.6.28.7 1236299358 M * Bertl okay, so you have the HARD_CPU functionality, ontop of CFS, but not the IDLE_TIME stuff 1236299394 M * Bertl it is kind of historic feature actually, and I plan to replace it with a more CFS friendly approach in the future 1236299408 M * dwery ok 1236299421 M * Bertl long ago, long before there was CFS or even moderately fair schedulers, we designed a TB scheduler extension 1236299432 M * Bertl (TB = Token Bucket) 1236299469 M * Bertl that was developed and improved to handle all kind of configurations, including the idle time skipping 1236299492 M * Bertl in 2.6.28 it allows you to impose a hard upper limit on a guest 1236299504 M * dwery this thing strips down pretty well 1236299521 M * Bertl i.e. if you decide 50% cpu and not more, then it will unschedule processes when over limit 1236299536 M * Bertl (even if the system is otherwise idle) 1236299612 M * dwery the patch also has ome IDLE TIME stuff 1236299638 M * Bertl yep, but the idle time is not working ATM 1236299646 M * dwery ok, will not enable it :) 1236299676 M * Bertl you can enable it, it just won't work, no harm :) 1236299879 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1236300026 M * dwery ok, it's late 1236300031 M * dwery I think I'll call it a day 1236300044 M * Bertl good idea! I'm almost off to bed too 1236300055 M * dwery I'll be there from time to time 1236300063 M * Bertl feel free to hang around ... 1236300071 M * dwery 'night all 1236300099 M * Bertl have a good one! 1236300125 P * dwery 1236300513 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236301172 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.50.13 1236302716 M * Bertl off to bed now ... enjoy! 1236302721 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1236304144 J * pflanze ~chris__@trex.iro.umontreal.ca 1236304435 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236305704 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1236307828 Q * sardyno_ Quit: leaving 1236307987 J * sardyno ~me@pool-96-235-18-120.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net 1236308776 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236310187 Q * bono Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236310359 J * aj__ ~aj@p5B23EFAD.dip.t-dialin.net 1236310786 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236311054 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-224-78-200.access.telenet.be 1236311378 J * doener ~doener@i577BBFBF.versanet.de 1236311482 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236312333 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236313267 J * geb ~geb@157.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1236314362 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236314494 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be 1236315287 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.148.141 1236317419 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection 1236319728 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.1.0 1236320753 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1236321258 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.9.103 1236321685 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236322994 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236323458 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1236323996 J * cluk ~cluk@p5B17C92B.dip.t-dialin.net 1236324075 J * Punkie ~Punkie@2a01:5f0:1:80:216:d4ff:fe05:5987 1236324363 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236324709 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1236325024 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.48.217 1236325166 J * davidkarban ~david@88.86.104.103 1236325184 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1236325997 Q * harobed Quit: Ex-Chat 1236326071 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236327098 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1236327884 M * cluk morning, 1236327924 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1236328023 J * bono bono@118-168-238-33.dynamic.hinet.net 1236328052 M * cluk Bertl:, daniel_hozac: just wanted to report that those 'fork(): process `vcontext' used deprecated clone flags 0x2000000' messages which i reported yesterday 1236328057 M * cluk disappeared using the 0.30.216-pre2827 util-vserver version 1236328063 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.145.38 1236328427 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236328829 J * dna ~dna@53-215-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1236328921 Q * bono Quit: Leaving 1236329222 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1236329456 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1236329476 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236330124 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1236330289 J * bono bono@220-136-228-213.dynamic.hinet.net 1236331033 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236331061 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.152 1236331335 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.170 1236331485 M * ghislainocfs21 hello there 1236331535 M * ghislainocfs21 bertl i read that TB works in the last vserver patch ? we can use cgroup AND TB ? so providing fair scheduling between gust plus a hard top limit par guest ? 1236331550 M * ghislainocfs21 s/gust/guests/ 1236331666 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236331872 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.222 1236332016 Q * harobed Quit: Ex-Chat 1236332128 J * scientes ~scientes@75-165-95-28.tukw.qwest.net 1236332178 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236332624 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.252 1236332987 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236333562 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.182 1236333981 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236333981 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236334296 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.146.182 1236334920 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1236335358 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.146.109 1236335717 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236336385 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236336560 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1236336651 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236337086 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236337253 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1236337417 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.58.167 1236337960 J * aj__ ~aj@80.69.42.51 1236338333 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236338617 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1236338884 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236340020 Q * pflanze Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236340114 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-2-071.ethz.ch 1236340169 J * geb ~geb@157.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1236340460 Q * ktwilight Remote host closed the connection 1236340473 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236340614 Q * ktwilight Remote host closed the connection 1236340808 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236340824 Q * ktwilight Remote host closed the connection 1236340860 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236341067 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1236341257 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236341357 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236341516 Q * ktwilight_ Remote host closed the connection 1236341544 M * geb hi 1236341555 M * geb http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9706#c0 1236342113 M * hijacker_ lool geb 1236342117 M * hijacker_ nice one... 1236342241 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1236342246 M * Bertl morning folks! 1236342252 M * geb morning Bertl 1236342254 M * geb :) 1236342255 M * ghislainocfs21 hello 1236342263 M * Bertl we should instantly switch to 128bit uid/gid :) 1236342264 M * geb hijacker_, it seems to also work with files 1236342284 M * geb mercure:~# chown toto /tmp/a 1236342284 M * geb mercure:~# ls /tmp/a -l 1236342284 M * geb -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 mar 6 13:22 /tmp/a 1236342299 M * hijacker_ wahh 1236342300 M * hijacker_ nice 1236342309 M * geb can be cool for setuid :) 1236342314 M * hijacker_ my debian box at home is 64bit, i shall test that ;-) 1236342341 M * geb i tested on a fresh lenny amd64 1236342409 M * hijacker_ ah 1236342410 M * hijacker_ ;-0 1236342415 M * hijacker_ so it will work 1236342417 M * hijacker_ ;-) 1236343055 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236343064 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1236343756 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.50.147 1236344226 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1236344902 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection 1236345419 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@91.178.144.245 1236345778 J * dwery ~dwery@81-208-60-204.ip.fastwebnet.it 1236346082 P * dwery 1236346301 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1236346305 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1236347128 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.15.209 1236347261 Q * mattzerah Read error: Operation timed out 1236347578 Q * saulus_ Remote host closed the connection 1236347632 Q * kwowt Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236347736 J * saulus ~saulus@d046163.adsl.hansenet.de 1236347804 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.217.178 1236348450 Q * saulus Quit: leaving 1236348467 J * saulus ~saulus@d046163.adsl.hansenet.de 1236348529 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77.109.189.6 1236349011 N * BobR BobR_afk 1236349150 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1236349266 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at 1236350302 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77.109.189.30 1236350499 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.12.123 1236350928 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236351549 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1236352622 Q * snooze Remote host closed the connection 1236353196 Q * Punkie Quit: Leaving 1236353938 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236354165 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.244.cust.blixtvik.net 1236354173 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236354787 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236354860 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.48.41 1236355197 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1236355555 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236355575 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1236356649 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.105.80 1236356911 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1236357403 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-072-213-089.pools.arcor-ip.net 1236357565 J * Punkie ~Punkie@home.pekelny.net 1236357708 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1236357750 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, there? 1236357793 M * derjohn how I can make vserver devel behave like the older versions concerning "lo" / 127.0.0.1 ? 1236357918 N * BobR_afk BobR 1236358132 Q * Slydder1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236358453 M * derjohn hm, bind9 hangs (forever?) on booting the guest. The same guest worke under 2.2.x and now hangs under 2.3.x 1236358799 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-074-053-171.pools.arcor-ip.net 1236358915 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1236360090 M * Bertl_oO derjohn: assign the first IP as lback address, enable single IP special casing and disable auto lback (implicitely) 1236360132 M * Bertl_oO (that's as close as you get to old lback behaviour, but unlikely what you really want) 1236360145 M * Bertl_oO regarding bind9, strace -fF ? 1236360238 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1236360379 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1236360555 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4 1236361020 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236361153 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.61.44 1236361295 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236361761 Q * Slydder1 Quit: Leaving. 1236361947 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1236362714 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1236362765 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1236364697 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.110.25 1236365431 M * ard This should probably go to the debian bugs maintainer: 1236365436 M * ard root@pitr:~# vserver-stat 1236365436 M * ard CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1236365436 M * ard 230 5 89.1M 9.4M 0m00s20 0m00s25 1m10s49 selfservice-acpt 1236365441 M * ard root@pitr:~# vserver selfservice-acpt/ enter 1236365445 M * ard 'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting... 1236365450 M * ard root@pitr:~# vserver-stat 1236365450 M * ard CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1236365450 M * ard 230 5 89.1M 9.4M 0m00s20 0m00s25 2m01s95 1236365529 M * ard util-vserver 0.30.216~r2772-6~bpo40+1 1236365532 M * ard (debian) 1236365586 M * Bertl_oO not sure what I'm seeing here 1236365610 M * ard /var/run/vservers/selfservice-acpt is removed 1236365622 M * ard by the vserver ... enter command 1236365627 A * ard is reading an strace 1236365632 A * ard had one vserver left :-0 1236365635 M * Bertl_oO very interesting ... 1236365663 M * Bertl_oO well, if that happens with the latest 216pre too, I'd contact daniel_hozac 1236366100 M * daniel_hozac probably will. 1236366110 M * daniel_hozac that slash will mess up the checks. 1236366189 M * ard jups 1236366207 A * ard was looking for the repository :-) 1236366209 J * saulus_ ~saulus@d004129.adsl.hansenet.de 1236366239 M * ard there needs to be a sanity checker in the vserver script 1236366468 M * Bertl_oO IIRC, daniel_hozac is working on a fix for that ... no idea why (after 5 years) folks now start adding slashes :) 1236366493 M * ard being in the wrong directory and then [tab] ;-( 1236366494 M * ard eh 1236366499 M * ard that was ;-) 1236366517 M * Bertl_oO well, but tab completion isn't really new, not even for debian, no? 1236366535 M * ard No, but the tab-completion adds a / when you are in /etc/vservers 1236366542 M * ard :-) 1236366572 M * Bertl_oO yes, doesn't explain why that happens now and not in all those years before 1236366584 M * ard O, like that :-) 1236366605 Q * saulus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1236366616 M * ard I think in the years before usually people just typed it correctly 1236366634 M * ard but the ease of use of vserver starts to increase when you lay out some rules 1236366669 M * ard so the attention spans and skills of those that needs to do these things decrease :-) 1236366764 A * ard was already careful when cloning to not be in the /etc/vservers directory since that would clone the /etc/vservers/ instead of the /etc/vservers/