1234483516 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234483604 M * derjohn_foo Bertl, buildbox-etch-amd64:/usr/src/linux-2.6.28.4# addr2line -e ./vmlinux ffffffff8023b0ec ffffffff8023b192 ffffffff8023c858 1234483604 M * derjohn_foo sched.c:0 1234483604 M * derjohn_foo sched.c:0 1234483604 M * derjohn_foo ??:0 1234483644 M * Bertl you sure you didn't rebuild in the meantime? 1234483660 M * derjohn_foo argh 1234483670 M * derjohn_foo thats the 1000hz variant 1234483678 M * derjohn_foo yes, you are right 1234483705 M * derjohn_foo I'll try to boot th same kernel as same domU 1234483838 M * derjohn_foo I'll need to copy the kernel first - this will last some minutes 1234483854 M * Bertl may it last forever :) 1234484055 M * Bertl what is tainting the kernel btw? 1234484063 M * saulus_ Bertl: did the mounts always "magically disappear" when a vserver was deleted? I thought I lost some data by this once - But this was with vservers from debian stable ... 1234484103 M * Bertl when a guest is stopped, or the laste process exists, the namespaces used will disappear, unless you selected persistent context mode 1234484110 M * derjohn_foo Bertl, usually my kernels are tainted simply because i touched them ;) 1234484137 M * Bertl saulus_: the mount namespace (fs) contains all the guest specific mounts, so they will disappear too 1234484140 M * saulus_ Ok, but I of course forgot to stop that vserver as well - 1234484157 M * Bertl deleting a running server should not be possible 1234484171 M * saulus_ yes, its not anymore - good thing 1234484194 M * derjohn_foo Bertl, *incredible* 1234484233 M * derjohn_foo Bertl, the 1000Hz booted! It workx. a diff on the .configs shows that the only difference is the 300Hz vs 1000Hz 1234484282 M * derjohn_foo if Xen has a timing problem with 300Hz ? 1234484297 M * Bertl rebuild with 300Hz and try again 1234484322 M * derjohn_foo you mean I should create the vmlinux (300Hz) and use addr2line on that? 1234484327 M * derjohn_foo just to locate the bug ? 1234484370 M * derjohn_foo i'll do so! but the compile time last nearly forever 1234484372 M * Bertl well, try if the issue is reproducible with your config, then grab a new oops and run it through addr2line 1234484402 M * Bertl don't compile on your PDA then :) 1234484408 M * derjohn_foo well start a compile run - i'll tell you what the results are ! 1234484422 M * derjohn_foo micro-sized devices are the future i heard ! 1234484463 M * Bertl the nokia 810 is nice, it shipps with Linux :) 1234484486 M * derjohn_foo but without gsm :/ 1234484516 M * Bertl well, it's not a phone ... 1234484938 M * derjohn_foo I am curious what the result will be! 1234484968 M * derjohn_foo But now /me does some ZZzzzzZZZZZzzzz and the let computer so the work meanwhile 1234487279 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1234487906 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1234488976 M * pflanze Do I want NET_NS? (on 2.6.28.4 + vs2.3.0.36.7) 1234489064 M * pflanze I promise to write the answer to the wiki. 1234489171 Q * gdm Remote host closed the connection 1234489217 M * Bertl well, no idea, do you? 1234489390 M * pflanze What does it do for vserver usage? 1234489395 M * pflanze Unrelated or not_? 1234489407 M * Bertl for now, mostly unrelated 1234489416 M * pflanze ok, so N 1234491600 M * pflanze hm. For building util-vserver from svn, shouldn't I run "autoconf"? 1234491628 M * Bertl shouldn't hurt 1234491656 M * pflanze problem is, that "./configure --prefix=/opt/vserver" will reply with 1234491659 M * pflanze ./configure: line 1748: syntax error near unexpected token `1.9' 1234491659 M * pflanze ./configure: line 1748: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(1.9 gnits dist-bzip2 subdir-objects)' 1234491678 M * pflanze This is autoconf 2.61-8 (Debian lenny) 1234491696 M * Bertl outdate, you probably want to run aclocal and automake too 1234491785 M * pflanze in which order? aclocal; autoconf run both fine, but then automake will complain as will configure 1234491837 M * pflanze I promise to send in a patch to util-vserver to add a file mentioning this. 1234491862 A * pflanze goes to the wiki to add NET_NS 1234491888 M * Bertl what automake version? 1234491918 M * pflanze automake: /usr/bin/automake-1.10 1234491922 M * pflanze automake 1:1.10.1-3 1234491939 M * pflanze This is also on the system: automake1.9 1.9.6+nogfdl-3 1234491941 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1234491958 M * Bertl try with that then 1234491986 M * Bertl but isn't there a readme or so how to build it from svn? 1234491994 M * pflanze I haven't seen any. 1234492011 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-45-4.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net 1234492032 M * pflanze hm, there is a Makefile.svn 1234492091 M * pflanze which will still issue tons of warnings, but configure now works 1234492150 M * Bertl good .. off to bed now ... have fun! 1234492158 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1234492258 M * pflanze I have dietlibc-dev 0.31-1.2 1234492287 M * pflanze but configure says "checking whether to enable dietlibc... no (too old; 0.27+ required, 0.2 found)" 1234492292 M * pflanze sigh. 1234494041 J * aj__ ~aj@e180193071.adsl.alicedsl.de 1234494456 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234498603 Q * puck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234500115 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.61.30 1234502996 Q * pflanze Remote host closed the connection 1234504757 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz 1234506815 J * sharkjaw ~gab@217-26-13.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1234509742 J * foru ~foru@193.43.249.169 1234509803 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1234512201 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-201-10.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net 1234512250 Q * friendly 1234512336 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234513415 J * dna ~dna@92-215-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1234513422 J * aj__ ~aj@80.69.42.51 1234513763 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1234514321 J * doener ~doener@i577BAE11.versanet.de 1234514427 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234516762 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234517930 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.63.30 1234518238 P * jordi 1234518509 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1234519828 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1234520443 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1234520449 M * Bertl morning folks! 1234521224 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1234521303 M * fb_ Morning Bertl :) 1234522136 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1234522647 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1234523811 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234524701 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA77C7.dip.t-dialin.net 1234524933 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1234526188 M * derjohn Bertl, morning ! 1234526251 M * derjohn Bertl, yesterday I was wrong in the assumption, the 1000hz kernel worked. the xend took some old config, booting a debian kernel (without vserver= 1234526271 M * derjohn Bertl, but with 1000Hz i see a little more on the console, than with 300Hz 1234526277 M * derjohn Bertl, BUG: scheduling while atomic: kthreadd/2/0x804cfc46 1234526322 M * derjohn scheduling while atomic? Sounds like "preemption interrupts important tasks". Currently I compile a non-prepemt variant 1234526517 M * Bertl we had the same yesterday, do you have reasonable addr2line info today? 1234527055 J * independence independen@titan.blinkenshell.org 1234527397 M * transacid Hollow: after you but sys-apps/baselayout-vserver into package.mask your should also unmask sys-apps/baselayout in the vserver profile. or is the vserver profile obsolete aswell? 1234528897 J * Hawq hawk@furud.net 1234528966 M * Hawq hello 1234529001 M * Bertl derjohn: also, a test run with a kernel without the Linux-VServer patches, but with the very same config would be appreciated 1234529221 M * Hawq quick question: as 2.6.27 tree is supposed to have long time support (like .16 had), will vserver patches be maintained for this tree or have you already skipped to 2.6.28? 1234529249 M * Bertl yep, 2.6.27.x will get long-term maintained by Linux-VServer too 1234529259 M * Bertl nevertheless, there are patches for 2.6.28.x too 1234529299 M * Hawq Bertl: great! as I've decided to keep 2.6.27 in my distro for longer while :) 1234529309 M * Bertl yep, makes sense 1234529394 M * Hawq I only still didn't decided between full and minimal grsecurity for my vserver kernel :) 1234529409 M * Hawq using minimal one ATM 1234529721 M * arekm everyone has a distro now ;> 1234529729 M * derjohn hehhe 1234529763 M * derjohn Me = johnix - no naming-conflicts intended ;) 1234529803 M * Hawq arekm: yeah, our distros use same code base :) 1234529837 M * Bertl arekm: everybody and his dog :) 1234529856 M * Bertl but diversity is a good thing IMHO 1234529938 M * fb_ http://tinyurl.com/bvw98h ;D 1234530589 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1234531014 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-75-116.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1234531123 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1234531142 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234531345 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl 1234531351 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1234531761 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234532359 J * eyck fWscvW6m@nat05.nowanet.pl 1234532968 Q * Darkglow Remote host closed the connection 1234535047 Q * kir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234535927 N * ensc Guest1187 1234535937 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA528D.dip.t-dialin.net 1234536046 Q * Guest1187 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234537469 A * ktwilight_ <3 vserver ... exec 1234538535 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4 1234538655 J * pflanze ~chris__@trex.iro.umontreal.ca 1234540674 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1234541205 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1234543018 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1234543566 M * yang I am looking for procedure on building the CentOs guest 1234543618 M * yang on debian host 1234544071 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234545326 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1234546577 J * saulus ~saulus@d179226.adsl.hansenet.de 1234546687 Q * saulus_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234547217 M * harry bragon: sorry dude, really busy at work, didn't have time to spin a 2.6.28 patch 1234547293 M * bragon np 1234547303 M * bragon harry: the 2.6.27.15 work very well 1234547323 M * harry (and... btw... the grsec is just testing :) 1234547328 M * harry for 2.6.28 1234547345 M * harry tnx :) 1234547361 M * bragon gerontius gimli # uname -a 1234547361 M * bragon Linux gerontius 2.6.27.15-grsec-2.1.12-vs2.3.0.36.4 #4 SMP Thu Feb 12 12:27:33 CET 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux 1234547364 M * bragon gerontius gimli # 1234547373 M * bragon it just work :) 1234547389 M * harry :) 1234547400 M * harry allways nice to hear satisfied people 1234547419 M * bragon i'm using vserver since a very long time 1234547479 M * fb_ harry: where do you take older grsec patches from? 1234547490 M * harry fb_: what older grsec patches? 1234547505 M * harry i just allways use the latest available 1234547580 M * fb_ harry: but if you want to stick to 2.6.27 series? 1234547608 M * harry take the stable patch from grsec, i'd guess 1234547611 M * harry just never happened :) 1234547638 M * harry the only thing i dare change on grsec patches are minor upgrades of kernel code 1234547657 M * harry tune patches to be compatible with vserver 1234547674 Q * esa` Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1234547676 M * harry that's a bit the problem ow... the 2.6.28 is a test patch ow 1234547684 M * harry so i'm a little weary of using that for a patch 1234547744 M * harry dev grsec and dev vserver... 1234547754 M * harry might be tricky business 1234548360 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1234549074 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1234549621 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1234550204 J * yarihm ~yarihm@57-58-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch 1234550400 Q * yarihm 1234550571 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1234550667 J * yarihm ~yarihm@57-58-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch 1234551440 M * pflanze ensc: I've got a problem compiling util-vserver from svn. It thinks my dietlibc version is <0.2 while in fact it is 0.31, and it things g++ is not a C++ compiler. 1234551518 M * pflanze "too old; 0.27+ required, 0.2 found" 1234551546 M * pflanze This is after I've already patched the Makefile.svn to explicitely run {aclocal,automake}-1.9 1234551566 M * pflanze since with the 1.10.1 versions it would give tons of warnings. 1234552478 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1234552585 Q * ghislainocfs2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234552966 Q * ghislainocfs21 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234553025 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1234553098 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1234553116 M * Bertl pflanze: you are a victim of another debian oddity 1234553131 M * pflanze ok 1234553145 M * pflanze but how do I solve it? 1234553163 M * Bertl not long ago, I had a chat with daniel_hozac, and it turned out, that there is absolutely no way to figure out the dietlibc version except for looking at the version string 1234553180 M * pflanze version string where? 1234553184 M * Bertl now on all other distros, that version string would be 0.30 or 0.31 1234553197 M * Bertl on debian it is 0.31-1.2 or something like that 1234553203 M * pflanze yep 1234553217 M * Bertl which confuses the autodetection (see there for details) 1234553230 M * pflanze which file is the detection in? 1234553243 M * pflanze and what about the g++ problem? 1234553267 M * pflanze same issue? 1234553269 M * pflanze ii g++ 4:4.3.2-2 The GNU C++ compiler 1234553269 M * pflanze ii g++-4.2 4.2.4-6 The GNU C++ compiler 1234553269 M * pflanze ii g++-4.3 4.3.2-1.1 The GNU C++ compiler 1234553269 M * pflanze ii g++-4.3-multilib 4.3.2-1.1 The GNU C++ compiler (multilib files) 1234553290 M * Bertl check the configure file and log, the g++ I haven't heard of yet, but g++ should be c++, no? 1234553309 M * Bertl i.e. you should have an alias called c++ somewhere 1234553311 M * pflanze yes 1234553316 M * pflanze $ c++ --version 1234553316 M * pflanze c++ (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) 4.3.2 1234553316 M * pflanze Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 1234553337 M * Bertl so if that works (requires a bunch of libraries) it should be fine 1234553347 M * Bertl check the configure.log for details what failed there 1234553358 A * pflanze checks 1234553450 M * Bertl yang: either install rpm (and fix it so that it works) or create the centos guest somewhere else (i.e. on an rpm based host system) and package it as template or rsync it over 1234553509 Q * ghislainocfs2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234553638 M * pflanze in /usr/include/c++/4.3/cstddef: #include_next --> stddef.h: No such file or director 1234553749 M * Bertl well, that's definitely a problem on your compiler side 1234553781 M * pflanze well I've got /usr/include/diet/stddef.h /usr/include/linux/stddef.h /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3/include/stddef.h 1234553809 M * pflanze (also /usr/src/linux/include/linux/stddef.h) 1234553819 M * Bertl so just tell your gcc to include it :) 1234554015 M * derjohn Bertl, FYI: the 250Hz/no Preempt Kernel did not cause a crash. But I compile one of the "bad ones" again and keep the vmlinux file (From now on i gernerally keep those vmlinux thingies on the build-server). 1234554054 M * Bertl good idea, also test with a non-Linux-VServer patched kernel with identical config please 1234554097 M * derjohn Yes, actually if have enough domUs free to test ;) 1234554395 M * derjohn BTW: do you think the preempt stuff is still useful for a desktop system? machines are very fast today and all uninterruptable (?) task should not take long. 1234554428 M * Bertl ask the professional sound folks :) 1234554442 M * Bertl (make sure to wear protective clothing :) 1234554444 M * derjohn and why should one take a preemption kernel instead of a voluntary preempt ? 1234554476 M * derjohn Bertl, i wont expose myself to LKML .... but ... wait ... I could take you e-mail sender address :)= 1234554498 M * Bertl could you? that would be interesting ... 1234554589 M * derjohn "Hello Andrew, could you please apply my patch 2.3.0.36.7 to 2.6.28.6" :-)) 1234554595 M * derjohn BTW: .5 is out ! 1234554597 M * derjohn argh 1234554617 M * derjohn again compiling .... 1234554681 M * derjohn hm, ans XFS issue fixed. did have someone have a kernel probelms due to xfs recently? 1234554704 M * Bertl IIRC, somebody was messing with some xfs corruption 1234554738 M * derjohn oh, a fix for e1000 code ... 1234554788 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-45-4.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net 1234554802 M * derjohn ohhhhhh. a md bug ... 1234554814 M * derjohn well, time to download .5 .... 1234554896 M * derjohn arekm, wasnt it you with xfs probs on your vserver test kernel? FYI 2.6.28..5 has some xfs fix. 1234554901 M * pflanze Could anyone help me work on m4/ensc_dietlibc.m4? I suppose someone with m4 knowledge is required here. 1234554928 M * pflanze And/or someone who could tell me how to play with the thing at runtime (debugger?). 1234554976 M * pflanze Just getting me started with doing trial runs would help a lot. 1234555013 M * Bertl http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/old/texinfo/m4/m4.html 1234555178 A * derjohn has to fetch some 0xf00d 1234555300 M * pflanze Anyone to tell me how to run the script with actual parameters or something? 1234555335 M * pflanze I'm not interested in learning m4; I just want to fix the issue at hands. 1234555412 M * pflanze (I've never used it and I'm not expecting to ever use it for something else than here.) 1234555511 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.93.49 1234555547 M * derjohn then it will be difficult to solve your problem ? 1234555577 M * pflanze I did ask specific questions. 1234555582 M * pflanze thanks for the answer. 1234555608 M * derjohn derjohn, I dont have an idea how m4 works (i never used sendmail). 1234555685 M * pflanze yep, I haven't used sendmail _either_ 1234555689 M * derjohn but dont the util packages simply compile as they are shipped ? 1234555761 M * pflanze never mind, I've found a place to inject a sed instance to salvage the situation anyway 1234555773 M * derjohn fine :) ! 1234555784 A * derjohn is now really away 1234556636 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234557010 Q * foru Read error: Connection reset by peer 1234557269 J * lemed ~lemed@193.43.249.169 1234557544 M * pflanze Hm, attempts like "./configure --prefix=/opt/vserver CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/diet" or hacking -I/usr.... into the configure script only make things worse. 1234557599 M * pflanze like "configure: WARNING: linux/ext2_fs.h: present but cannot be compiled" 1234557658 M * Bertl note that CPP and CXX is quite different, and c++ and dietlibc don't go together as well 1234557710 Q * dowdle Read error: Connection reset by peer 1234558113 Q * lemed Remote host closed the connection 1234558140 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1234558190 J * vosihefuf ~vosihefuf@193.43.249.169 1234558273 M * pflanze I've now just hacked the detection to always give true. 1234558286 M * pflanze With that the utils compiled without any problem. 1234558515 A * pflanze rebooting now 1234558767 Q * pflanze Quit: Leaving 1234559237 Q * vosihefuf Remote host closed the connection 1234559283 J * mylin ~mylin@193.43.249.169 1234559413 J * pflanze ~chris__@trex.iro.umontreal.ca 1234559698 J * aj__ ~aj@p5B23CB83.dip.t-dialin.net 1234560329 Q * mylin Remote host closed the connection 1234560359 J * raxuhaho ~raxuhaho@193.43.249.169 1234561034 Q * aj__ Remote host closed the connection 1234561236 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23CB83.dip.t-dialin.net 1234561535 Q * raxuhaho Remote host closed the connection 1234561589 J * vumoryhis ~vumoryhis@193.43.249.169 1234561790 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1234562092 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1234562109 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1234562258 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-45-4.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net 1234562671 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:212:f0ff:fe0f:6f86 1234563982 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1234564959 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1234565437 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1234566380 N * ensc Guest1228 1234566390 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA528D.dip.t-dialin.net 1234566496 Q * Guest1228 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1234567028 Q * bonbons Remote host closed the connection 1234567700 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1234567929 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1234567938 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1234567966 M * hparker heh.. 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