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1234312777 J * _brent_ ~brent@jive.fttp.xmission.com
1234313058 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1234313229 M * _brent_ i've got a problem with kernel-2.6.27.9 and vs-2.3.0.36.4. First, some background: I grabbed the SRPM for the kernel from redhat, then modified the spec file to apply the vserver patches. The thing builds and installs without any errors. The new kernel, however, can't see the LVM partition where / is sitting when it starts booting.
1234313309 M * _brent_ i've checked everything I can think of--all the same modules are being loaded as with daniel's 2.6.22 kernel (md_mod, the loopback one, ext3, etc.)
1234313339 M * _brent_ but when it scans logical volumes, none are found and the kernel panics when / isn't available
1234313571 M * _brent_ (and that's md-mod, not md_mod)
1234314157 M * _brent_ (dm-mod, stupid fingers)
1234314539 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234314542 M * _brent_  no takers? i'll check back tomorrow.
1234314549 Q * _brent_ Quit: Leaving.
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1234335281 J * sharkjaw ~gab@217-26-13.231210.adsl.tele2.no
1234336935 M * Chlorek huh
1234336938 M * Chlorek i need help
1234336966 M * Chlorek i get chbind: kernel does not provide kernel isolation
1234336971 M * Chlorek what is wrong?
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1234340379 P * morphium 
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1234341475 J * doener ~doener@i577BAF37.versanet.de
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1234341877 Q * zbyniu_ 
1234342502 M * bragon harry: i test that http://harry.enzoverder.be/patch-2.6.27.15-vs2.3.0.36.4-grsec2.1.12-20090210.diff
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1234344467 J * aj__ ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net
1234344578 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1234344689 Q * esa 
1234344811 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1234345066 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp121-44-207-248.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
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1234346719 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at
1234346728 M * _Shiva_ hi
1234346800 M * _Shiva_ i have a problem compiling the latest snapshot (2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.7)
1234346940 M * _Shiva_ using the same .config as with 2.6.28.3-vs2.3.0.36.5 I get:   http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12736
1234347109 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net
1234347453 J * kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1234347454 M * kwowt hi
1234347463 M * kwowt anyone has experiences with PLESK control panel on linux vserver?
1234347803 N * pmenier_off pmenier
1234348176 M * ghislainocfs2 yes i have some
1234348198 M * ghislainocfs2 my main advice is : uninstall this but if i can help i will
1234348473 M * kwowt why
1234348848 M * kwowt ghislainocfs2?
1234349361 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6
1234349579 Q * xdr Remote host closed the connection
1234349799 M * _Shiva_ ok - I've digged a bit further - same compile error with 2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.6 
1234349824 M * _Shiva_ but reverting the patch delta-tbsched-feat01.diff on 2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.6 compiles ok...
1234349865 M * _Shiva_ any thoughts?
1234350162 M * ktwilight _Shiva_, you shouldn't need to patch the deltas for patch-2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.7.diff
1234350227 M * _Shiva_ ktwilight: read again - _reverted_ the patch ;-)
1234350412 M * ktwilight tried patch-2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.7.diff?
1234350725 M * _Shiva_ ktwilight: jepp - had been my first attempt - see above: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12736
1234350747 M * ktwilight _Shiva_, i saw, but the version you stated is different.
1234350758 M * ktwilight oops, misread.
1234350781 M * ktwilight damn numbers :)
1234350784 M * _Shiva_ *g*
1234350796 M * ktwilight sure it's clean?
1234350829 M * _Shiva_ so maybe there's something w/i my .config missing that should triger some #ifdef ...
1234350912 M * ktwilight maybe, especially for vserver specific stuff
1234351044 M * _Shiva_ i have another machine that compiles 2.6.28.4-vs2.3.0.36.7 ok... diff'ing .config now..
1234351116 M * _Shiva_ no difference between CONFIG_VSERVER_* settings...
1234351193 M * _Shiva_ hmm .. CONFIG_SCHED_MC and CONFIG_SCHED_HRTICK settings differ..
1234352155 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.247.cust.blixtvik.net
1234352866 M * _Shiva_ ok - now CONFIG_VSERVER_* and *SCHED* are all the same.. one compiles and the other ends in the error above
1234352947 M * _Shiva_ ok - $ARCH is different (x86_64 vs. x86) and first has set CONFIG_SMP and the second doesn't
1234353032 A * _Shiva_ waiting for Bertl_zZ to enlight me ;-)
1234353291 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1234355861 M * _Shiva_ found it! CONFIG_SMP it is... must be a missing "#ifndef CONFIG_SMP"-Block somewhere
1234356366 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234357488 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1234357506 M * Bertl morning folks!
1234357603 M * Bertl Chlorek: wron kernel or util-vserver or bad config of one of them .. got some more details?
1234357686 M * Bertl _Shiva_: interesting, so without CONFIG_SMP it fails, yes?
1234357693 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: jepp
1234357704 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: with the error above
1234357717 M * Bertl testing now ...
1234358017 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving.
1234358324 M * Bertl yep, unhappy include placement, let me upload a patch
1234358636 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-sminc-fix01.diff
1234358691 M * _Shiva_ tnx - got it .. running make
1234359148 M * _Shiva_ that did it - thanks
1234359192 M * Bertl you're welcome! thanks for testing ...
1234359505 M * Chlorek Bertl: util-vserver 0.30.215, patch vserver 2.3, kernel 2.6.25
1234359556 M * Bertl any reason for 2.6.25? and what patch exactly?
1234359567 M * Chlorek patch-2.6.25.4-vs2.3.0.34.11.diff
1234359575 M * Chlorek http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.25.4-vs2.3.0.34.11.diff
1234359594 M * Bertl why not a 2.6.27 or 2.6.28 kernel?
1234359615 M * Chlorek works better?
1234359648 M * Bertl well, 2.6.25 was fairly broken, so definitely
1234360006 M * Chlorek Bertl: you dont help me
1234360023 M * Chlorek better tell me what is broken ;P
1234360090 M * Bertl check the changelogs from 2.6.25 on (mainline) and the detas since vs2.3.0.34.11
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1234361144 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1234362453 J * dna ~dna@16-202-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1234363134 N * ensc Guest867
1234363144 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA547E.dip.t-dialin.net
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1234364576 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1234364581 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1234366424 J * _brent_ ~brent@jive.fttp.xmission.com
1234368163 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1234368203 M * _brent_ i've got a problem with kernel-2.6.27.9 and vs-2.3.0.36.4. First, some background: I grabbed the SRPM for the kernel from redhat, then modified the spec file to apply the vserver patches. The thing builds and installs without any errors. The new kernel, however, can't see the LVM partition where / is sitting when it starts booting.
1234368216 M * _brent_ i've checked everything I can think of--all the same modules are being loaded as with daniel's 2.6.22 kernel (dm-mod, the loopback one, ext3, etc.)
1234368226 M * _brent_ but when it scans logical volumes, none are found and the kernel panics when / isn't available
1234368254 M * _brent_ (sorry for the copy and paste of my msg from last night)
1234368274 M * _brent_ any ideas?
1234368305 M * _brent_ i have both kernels installed on the same machine--daniel's 2.6.22 and my own 2.6.27
1234368320 M * _brent_ 2.6.22 boots fine, so i know the logical volumes are actually there
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1234371052 J * bibabu ~bibabu@vserv2.de
1234372338 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1234372474 J * SpComb terom@zapotek.paivola.fi
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1234374753 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1234375942 M * harry bragon: sorry, didn't have time today to fire up a 2.6.28 patch... sorry
1234375951 M * harry how did the 2.6.27.15 work?
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1234377362 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.93.49
1234377977 Q * balbir_ Read error: Operation timed out
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1234384233 J * toya ~toya@204.13.164.63
1234384235 M * toya hi
1234384249 M * toya is XID the same number as the vserver context number?
1234384306 Q * toya 
1234384388 M * mnemoc left :(
1234384412 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Tcldrop.US
1234385443 M * karasz mnemoc: you can still answer it :p
1234385645 M * mnemoc karasz: pff
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1234386867 J * ruskie_ ruskie@goatse.co.uk
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1234386938 J * bragon ~Alex@geekshell.ipv6.geeknode.org
1234386939 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1234386944 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA547E.dip.t-dialin.net
1234386948 J * pmenier_off ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1234386950 J * opuk ~kupo@potatisbulle.com
1234387029 N * ruskie_ ruskie
1234387127 J * Chlorek ~cokolwiek@devel4.net
1234387129 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1234387131 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3
1234387143 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1234387162 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1234387328 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1234387437 J * Scurz ~sfantar@azor.snurf.info
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1234388719 Q * tam Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234389633 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1234389638 M * Bertl back now ...
1234389869 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180193148.adsl.alicedsl.de
1234389908 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1234390023 M * fb_ good evening, Bertl :)
1234390062 M * fb_ any issues with hypnos? beside lack of time, maybe :)
1234391463 J * bibabu bibabu@vserv2.de
1234391485 P * bibabu 
1234392137 M * Bertl fb_: nope, works fine so far
1234392198 M * Bertl remote console is quite useful, didn't do much testing yet, but that's more time related as you said
1234392404 M * derjohn_mob hypnos ?
1234392929 M * Bertl remote server/test machine
1234392955 M * derjohn_mob the machine's name ? not the kvm ?
1234392959 M * derjohn_mob btw: delta-sminc-fix01.diff          
1234392969 M * derjohn_mob is that an forgotten include in .7 ?
1234392987 M * Bertl well, no, it is an unfortunately placed include in .7
1234392988 M * derjohn_mob should I comile that in to get full scheduling power ?
1234393006 M * Bertl i.e. it makes the kernel barf when compiled for UP
1234393014 M * karasz the FILES in /proc/virtual/xid/limits is the number of open files?
1234393029 M * Bertl yes
1234393047 M * derjohn_mob ah, so I have to apply it ... all my machine have smp (X2 or better)
1234393063 M * Bertl well, then you don't need it
1234393079 M * Bertl (otherwise you would have found out earlier :)
1234393086 M * karasz hmmm ~1000 is not nice :-/
1234393130 M * Bertl unusual, normally around 200 is typical
1234393148 M * Bertl how many OFD (open file descriptors) are shown?
1234393200 M * karasz 1048
1234393217 M * Bertl apache running? or squid?
1234393230 M * karasz lighttpd
1234393296 M * Bertl check with '
1234393304 M * Bertl ls /proc/*/fd/*
1234393320 M * Bertl (inside the guest context) who has the most open
1234393597 N * ensc Guest965
1234393607 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA547E.dip.t-dialin.net
1234393712 Q * Guest965 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234393919 M * karasz but the culprit was postgresql
1234393940 M * karasz thx Bertl 
1234394229 M * derjohn_mob ah, the kernel barf on UP, not SMP. ok, but it doesnt hurt if I include it , neither for UP nor for SMP ?
1234394321 M * Bertl nope, that's what the diff fixes
1234394340 M * Bertl i.e. it just moves the include outside the #ifdef ... SMP
1234394403 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1234394850 M * derjohn_mob ah, luckly I didnt publish my .debs yet. the next revision is cuurently compiling! thx Bertl 
1234394887 M * Bertl np
1234394941 M * derjohn_mob I also have a slightly offtopic question: what is the difference between a tap and a dummy interface ?
1234394984 M * Bertl the dummy interface doesn't receive any data ever, and just discards packet sent over it (thus it is named dummy)
1234394993 M * derjohn_mob I created some kvm's with one own tap each and put them together into a bridge device, creating the illusion  of a host-only network
1234395018 M * derjohn_mob nah, I have dummy running with vserver and to nat from it
1234395026 M * Bertl the tap is the ethernet layer interface which allows userspace to emulate (by receiving and sending packets) the far end 
1234395036 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: dream on :)
1234395068 M * derjohn_mob inet 172.16.61.1/24 brd 172.16.61.255 scope global dummy0
1234395068 M * derjohn_mob     inet 172.16.61.2/24 brd 172.16.61.255 scope global secondary dummy0
1234395100 M * Bertl and how many packets did you receive or send via dummy0? (check with ifconfig :)
1234395144 M * derjohn_mob  RX packets:0 ... only TX 
1234395176 M * Bertl and the packets listed in TX were discarded (mostly router solicitation and arp stuff)
1234395188 M * derjohn_mob why does the guest receive data then ?
1234395206 M * Bertl why shouldn't it?
1234395228 M * derjohn_mob eh .. I mean: how does it send ?
1234395246 M * derjohn_mob not via dummy?
1234395260 M * Bertl nope, all traffic goes via ethX
1234395261 M * derjohn_mob that must be a vserver specialty then ?
1234395268 M * Bertl nope, not at all
1234395278 M * Bertl that is just how Linux networking works
1234395291 M * derjohn_mob even it the guest does not have eth0 in it's context ?
1234395315 M * Bertl that is just blending out the unwanted interfaces
1234395327 M * Bertl without HIDE_NETIF, you see all interface 
1234395341 M * derjohn_mob only "optics" ?
1234395349 M * Bertl basically
1234395395 M * Bertl I personally never understood why folks started binding IPs to dummy0, but I guess it gives the feeling of having a separate interface :)
1234395472 M * derjohn_mob ok, because I thought it might be possible to give a certain guest X an own tap interface. but there would be still no way to add ips with the context there, als there is not capability "net_admin_tap5" ...
1234395502 M * derjohn_mob not=no
1234395517 M * Bertl well, not to mention that, if you do not bind some userspace program to the tap, it won't be used at all
1234395543 M * Bertl and it is questionable to provide an ethernet type interface to an IP limited guest
1234395543 M * derjohn_mob i think i used dummy because i am a dummy - i alwas wanted tap, but thought, tap was for vpn only ..
1234395565 M * Bertl so, do you have some userspace app using the tap?
1234395576 M * derjohn_mob kvm does it automagically
1234395587 M * derjohn_mob well, kvm/qemu is the userspace util then 
1234395606 M * Bertl correct, so you want to run kvm inside a guest?
1234395638 M * derjohn_mob hm, if a add a tap, give it an IP and bridge it to eth0 ... wont the IP work without a userspace prog ?
1234395657 M * Bertl yes, but the tap would be as useless as the dummy device
1234395675 M * derjohn_mob kvm _within_ a guest ? 
1234395676 M * Bertl i.e. nothing will go through it
1234395686 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234395689 M * Bertl should work, btw :)
1234395710 M * derjohn_mob ok, then we add arp_proxy to the tap/eth stuff
1234395719 M * derjohn_mob still not sending anything ?
1234395734 M * Bertl as long as there is no userspace app attaching to the tap, it isn't really used
1234395741 M * derjohn_mob (as it waits for the userspace to place the packets)
1234395771 M * Bertl the purpose of tun/tap devices is to have a network connection between userspace and the network stack
1234395778 M * derjohn_mob wouldnt that userspace be an approach for ngnet or something like that?
1234395799 M * Bertl think of it like an ethernet cable which has one end plugged into the computer and the other end wired into the software :)
1234395802 M * derjohn_mob i mean a process with that context id that own an tap ?
1234395841 M * Bertl should I draw you a picture?
1234395871 M * derjohn_mob well, if you draw it's ascii art or hand-programmed postscript 
1234395886 M * derjohn_mob but I think I understood tap now.
1234395899 M * Bertl hehe, was going to fire up the gimp and draw some fancy cable :)
1234395939 M * derjohn_mob *g*
1234395972 M * derjohn_mob as fancy as that one http://etherkiller.org/ ?
1234396015 M * Bertl hehe, yeah, something like that :)
1234396058 M * derjohn_mob btw: it got silent around NGnet. it it dead ?
1234396148 M * Bertl there is no real point in doing what we 'thought' would be a good idea back then, and mainline is working on ethernet pair devices (they should be already in btw, but not very useful yet)
1234396173 M * Bertl they will allow to send packets between 'network' contexts
1234396198 M * derjohn_mob is there also "container" support for ethernet in mainline?
1234396198 M * Bertl thus traversing the network stack twice, once inside the guest up to the device, and a second time on the host
1234396215 M * derjohn_mob ah
1234396218 M * Bertl yes, the so called network namespaces aim to do that
1234396249 M * derjohn_mob slowly everthing in mainline get a own namespace.
1234396347 M * derjohn_mob did you have objections an the pair device implementation?
1234396410 M * Bertl besides the fact that it is slow and has more overhead than direct networking, not really
1234396684 M * derjohn_mob ok thx so far !
1234396693 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1234396745 M * derjohn_mob ah, iptables-in-a-guest will only come true if we get netfilter-namespaces ?
1234396798 M * Bertl kind of, or if somebody starts implementing the userspace solution (policy manager)