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1234140362 M * Bertl off to bed now ... hav e a good one everyone!
1234140369 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1234141551 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234142114 J * geb ~geb@92.140.208.136
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1234148871 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1234165767 J * bibabu bibabu@vserv1.de
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1234168669 J * doener ~doener@i577B8B51.versanet.de
1234168688 J * saulus ~saulus@d004153.adsl.hansenet.de
1234168764 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
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1234169570 M * derjohn Bertl_zZ, this night my test-goat server crashed, blank screen, cannot find any log entries. The machine was stable with the old kernel for weeks or month. I installed a fresh ...36.6 kernel, and press thumbs
1234170428 M * saulus derjohn: mine also fails to start. Murmling about "hits the barrier" ... maybe I need new vserver-utils, too...
1234170472 M * saulus s/Murmling/Mumbling/
1234170499 M * derjohn saulus, I can provide a .deb my  kernel if you want to compare
1234170608 M * derjohn saulus, I just copied it ... you can tech it (incl. sources-deb) under volatile.derjohn.de
1234170642 M * derjohn I diod not merge this kernel in my debian repo ( linux-vserver.derjohn.de ) until I regard it as stable.
1234170661 M * derjohn saulus, where did you set the barrier ?
1234170741 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1234170795 M * derjohn saulus, check showattr /var/lib/vservers and/or setattr --barrier /.....
1234170848 M * derjohn my deb generally ran, but after some hours it crashed. the last log entry I saw was cron apt atr 1 o'clock. random co-incidence ?
1234171052 M * saulus derjohn: my syslog said: kernel: vxW: [�vlimit�,4912:#40100|40100|40100] did hit the barrier - for vlimit, vsysctl, vuname, save_ctxinfo
1234171059 M * saulus did lookup hidden dm-0:f6d8b2c8[#0,328303] /var/lib
1234171093 M * saulus so thats why I wonder. I didnt change anything in the directory structure or so. Old kernel booted up my system fine
1234171138 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1234171191 M * derjohn I dont think the barrier stuff changed ... but did you set that special fsfsec capabiliy Bertl_zZ wrote ?
1234171232 M * derjohn in the former kernel that flag was ignored and now it did "something" ?
1234171260 M * derjohn but better ask Bertl_zZ's crystal ball un such cases....
1234171283 M * derjohn and again: my kernel runs on debian etch amd 64 with the std util-vserver
1234171389 M * saulus ok
1234171437 M * saulus I didnt notice he was writing about some flag for all vservers. I only know the name for the extension he wrote for me (VXC_FS_SECURITY)
1234171445 M * saulus But the problem affects all vservers
1234171478 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
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1234171839 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1234171935 J * bibabu bibabu@vserv1.de
1234171966 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1234172210 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1234172439 Q * infowolfe Remote host closed the connection
1234172439 Q * arekm Remote host closed the connection
1234172478 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1234172506 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1234172618 Q * infowolfe Remote host closed the connection
1234172654 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1234172948 M * arekm Bertl: 2.6.28.4 just blew up with "@ wrong assumption on rq (ffff8801458b2f40)" only in syslog (over network) logs. Does this ring any bell?
1234173081 Q * kir Quit: Leaving.
1234173087 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1234173585 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1234173589 M * Bertl morning folks!
1234173645 M * Bertl arekm: 'blew up' means?
1234173701 M * Bertl saulus: util-vserver version?
1234173754 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@168.106-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1234173768 M * arekm Bertl: means machine rebooted
1234173883 M * saulus morning. Bertl . util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2772; Dec 12 2008, 23:24:33. Not sure if I built my kernel right (didnt copied /boot/oldconfig to /usr/src/linux/config, not /usr/src/linux/_._config) doing it again right now
1234173912 M * Bertl arekm: this is unusual ... I have a test machine running since two days now, and it spewed out about 30000 such 'debug messages', sure you didn't hit a watchdog or such?
1234173944 M * Bertl saulus: in any case, check with 'testme.sh'
1234173968 M * Bertl if that works fine, check the barrier attributes on each path element to your guest
1234173992 M * arekm Bertl: I'll wait until it hapens again. From logs it doesn't look to be watchdog initiated
1234174077 M * arekm Bertl: and the "wrong assumption on rq" logged only over network so something bad happened
1234174078 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234174131 M * Bertl okay, you can safely remove the 'wrong assumption' printk (it doesn't make much sense anymore, I just orgot it there)
1234174272 M * arekm Bertl: are these "ok" ? http://pld.pastebin.com/f78c4f9b9
1234174537 M * derjohn arekm, hm, sounds like it could be the same $badfoobar that happend to my host. I dont have remote syslog, so my logs stayed clear. Bertl: and yes, I compiled the (new) feature "reboot on soft lockup" (cannot remember the exact name) in
1234174621 M * arekm derjohn: could you grep for that feature in /proc/config.gz etc ?
1234174628 M * arekm I wonder what is this 8-)
1234174636 M * Bertl okay, the limit on exit look wrong to me ...
1234174651 M * Bertl how do you trigger them?
1234174690 M * arekm good question, this is multiuser machine with few vservers so...
1234174823 M * derjohn arekm, i saw it when i did a make oldconfig from a 2.6.26 ... so it appeared somewhen in between those kernel versions.
1234175081 M * derjohn arekm, CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_SOFTLOCKUP_PANIC
1234175108 M * derjohn arekm, Panic (Reboot) On Soft Lockups
1234175156 M * arekm interesting
1234175195 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1234175201 M * derjohn it's part of "Kernel hacking" - so maybe something for kernel devels, not for watchdog users ...
1234175240 M * Bertl arekm: did you restart/stop the guests on a regular basis?
1234175278 M * arekm Bertl: no, only when booting/rebooting
1234175289 M * arekm derjohn: I wonder what's overhead for DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP then
1234175370 M * Bertl should be harmless, I think be have some bug in the scheduler code, I just don't know yet how to trigger it
1234175429 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@87.66.195.55
1234175635 M * Bertl yep, looks like we do not remove processess from the hold queue on exit
1234175781 M * derjohn Bertl, is that an assumption or did you see something in the code ?
1234175791 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234176014 M * Bertl yep, saw it in the code ...
1234176062 M * derjohn Bertl, ok, pls ping me, if a .7 appears on Experimental, i'll compile ASAP then
1234176189 M * arekm hm, fedora devel kernel has DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP on. I wonder if rhel/fedora stable has it, too
1234176379 M * Bertl derjohn: will do, TIA
1234176478 M * saulus when trying to fetch needed options for the kernel a lspci -v should me tell the real needed drivers, right?
1234176568 M * derjohn saulus, if will tell you, which PCI HW is installed, yes.
1234176574 M * Bertl the suited drivers, yes
1234176589 M * saulus good
1234176597 M * derjohn it wont help you with non-hardware realated modules like ext3, ipv4 etc.
1234176635 M * Bertl but lsmod will show you what is sactually loaded and used
1234176644 M * Bertl *actually
1234176686 M * derjohn so, do am lsmod on a distro-style kernel and you'll see what you need.
1234176747 M * saulus thats what I wanted. good. How about ipv6 - vservers dont need it, right? Me neither, like to switch it off.
1234176782 M * derjohn saulus, no, vserver doesnt need it - to be honest, it was a long way to make it appear in vserver at all
1234176810 M * saulus :)
1234176837 M * saulus Yes, when I want a vserver for eatch mm^2 in my room, I'll turn it on again
1234176852 M * saulus each
1234176908 M * derjohn saulus, you got more mm's than a the 10/8 network has ? wow ;)
1234177072 M * saulus youre right - Ill stay at ipv4 :)
1234177117 M * Bertl I definitely got more mm^2 than 10/8 has :)
1234177185 M * Bertl (I presume saulus got more too, 17 m^2 isn't that much :)
1234177312 M * saulus hrhr, always for some math :)
1234177312 A * arekm uses ipv6 on few vservers
1234177390 M * saulus I think I only own about 17 qm - you know that m^2 with angular walls underneath 1.5m height count half ... so its definetively less than 17 
1234177446 M * Bertl ah, well, then ipv4 might be enough after all :)
1234177479 M * Bertl and if not, thenm you can masquerade on each m^2 :)
1234177681 M * saulus that sounds interesting... maybe I'll write a book when I've finished thinking about this stuff
1234177738 M * saulus is usb2.0 compatible to usb1.1? So I could switch off the 1.1 drivers to enforce use of 2.0?
1234177792 M * Bertl no, usb2.0 ehci_hcd requires the usb1.1 drivers to initiate connections and to handle fallback
1234177818 M * Bertl also note that many usb devices are still 1.1
1234177829 M * Bertl (like keyboard or mouse ...)
1234178239 M * saulus I prefer the good old ps2 connectors - even work without legacy emulation (bios). I hate to reboot just for keyboard and mouse ...
1234178293 Q * FCOJ Quit: Leaving
1234179856 M * saulus are there some options to reduce the power consumption of my server (without graphics card, its a PIV 2Ghz with 3 GB Ram and Raid-1 through pci card and sata hds) - I reduced the "Processor Type and Features -> Timer frequency " to 100 HZ
1234179878 M * saulus wow, still compiling, for 2 hours !
1234180102 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@78.68-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1234180130 M * pmjdebruijn saulus: timer frequency does not really have anything do to with power consumption
1234180141 M * pmjdebruijn saulus: you need cpu frequency scaling, if your cpu does that
1234180436 M * saulus I dont think my normal desktop P4 has this ability. But when you read that a higher Hz makes the system react more in realtime, you may expect the opposite in reducing and with it less powerconsumption because of less work. Correct me, if i doing some very stupid thing :)
1234180452 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1234180468 M * saulus but of course: acpi and apm is enabled, powersave method on "ondemand"
1234180502 M * pmjdebruijn saulus: theoretically maybe... in practise I think the power usage difference will be hardly measurable
1234180575 M * hijacker_ saulus, your CPU surely support on demand strategy of the cpu scaling programs
1234180614 M * hijacker_ you need to use software like cpufreq(d) to get you set those parameters...
1234180998 M * pmjdebruijn saulus: is power consumption such a problem for you then?
1234181007 M * saulus only when I want to change it, right? Default CPUFreq governor (ondemand) would be ok, I think
1234181058 M * saulus no, but its always good to reduce power consumption and I dont want to spend more money on energy as I would have to on a atom/geode or whatever processor
1234182036 M * pmjdebruijn heh
1234182043 M * pmjdebruijn well cpu frequence scaling is your thing then
1234182049 Q * Aiken_ Remote host closed the connection
1234182059 M * pmjdebruijn geode are terribly slow... even atoms are slow compared to a full blown pentium/core
1234182165 M * hijacker_ aye, cores are good; -)
1234182189 M * saulus so thats why I thought about a P4 :) I dont want to wait forever
1234182590 J * esa bip@62.123.8.203
1234183133 M * pmjdebruijn there are low voltage variants on the cores
1234183135 M * saulus do I need SELinux for anything vserver-relevated? I didnt use it for now, dont know how it works, is it safe to disable this?
1234183151 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1234183161 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234183241 M * saulus exactly (by minutes) 3 hours after starting to build the kernel it did it work ...
1234183952 M * Bertl yep, safe to disable it
1234184063 M * ghislainocfs2 i would be very curious to see one of your kernel config Bertl
1234184068 M * ghislainocfs2 one you use for servers
1234184098 M * ghislainocfs2 as you are a kernel guy i bet i would learn quite a lot from it
1234184147 M * saulus same for me. If it compiles in 30 minites on you P66 or similar what you wrote ...
1234184151 M * ghislainocfs2 i wonder if  you could share one for educationnal purpose non guarantedd etc.. :)
1234184163 M * saulus g
1234184174 M * ghislainocfs2 insert leegal disclaimer here :)
1234184175 M * saulus maybe under the terms of the dark beer license
1234184179 M * ghislainocfs2 yes !
1234184183 M * ghislainocfs2 this one
1234184202 M * ghislainocfs2 or creative common if you want to stay serious ;p
1234184219 M * saulus hey - dark beer is serious :)
1234184256 M * ghislainocfs2 ;)
1234184259 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/config.bertl
1234184572 Q * kir Quit: Leaving.
1234184660 M * ghislainocfs2 tanks a lot Bertl ! :)
1234184784 J * karasz ~karasz@shell.opensde.net
1234184814 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: np, but keep in mind, my configs are all individually adjusted to the machine
1234184830 M * karasz moin
1234184838 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: i.e. on a different server, the config is very likely quite different
1234184950 M * saulus so i do a reboot. See you (hopefully)
1234185015 Q * saulus Quit: rebooting server
1234185212 M * ghislainocfs2 Bert: i imagine, this is for educational purpose i have dell r300 so i play with kernel options to see :)
1234185234 M * ghislainocfs2 Bertl: it is just curiosity :)
1234185269 M * Bertl that's fine, just do not consider it the 'optimal' config for your (or any :) system :)
1234185429 M * ghislainocfs2 yep i understand perfectly
1234186685 J * saulus ~saulus@c140102.adsl.hansenet.de
1234186783 M * saulus ok, im up and running, by my vservers dont. vxW: [»vlimit«,4851:#40014|40014|40014] did hit the barrier \n vxW: [»vlimit«,4851:#40014|40014|40014] did lookup hidden dm-0:f6d8b2c8[#0,328303] »/var/lib«.
1234186989 J * geb ~geb@92.140.215.111
1234187016 M * geb hi
1234187137 J * ruskie_ ruskie@goatse.co.uk
1234187139 M * saulus the tests are fine (testme.sh). what should showattr tell when used on these and on the barriered directories?
1234187346 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234187409 N * ruskie_ ruskie
1234187742 M * arekm Bertl: will that scheduler fix be today? 8)
1234187839 M * ktwilight__ saulus, showattr /path/to will tell you if barriers are set or not
1234187883 M * derjohn arekm, race :) I just wanted to ask the same :)
1234188223 M * Bertl just uploaded vs2.3.0.36.7 which is supposed to have a fix :)
1234188234 M * arekm great
1234188240 M * Bertl the issue can be triggered by entering a guest which is already on hold
1234188264 M * Bertl chances should be good to cause a kernel panic when doing so on the previous version
1234188278 M * derjohn foo!"
1234188280 M * derjohn bar!
1234188324 M * arekm printk("bad task: %p [%lx]\n", current, current->state);
1234188347 M * Bertl if you see that, then we have a problem :)
1234188352 M * derjohn arekm, what ?
1234188380 M * arekm I assumed that's debug printk ;>
1234188383 M * derjohn ah, but with .7 it shouldnt appear?
1234188534 M * derjohn  /testhase derjohn begint die compilearbeit ....
1234188556 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1234189355 Q * balbir_ Remote host closed the connection
1234189835 M * arekm Wrote: /home/users/arekm/rpm/RPMS/kernel-2.6.28.4-0.2.x86_64.rpm, reboot time
1234189894 Q * arekm Quit: reboot
1234189988 M * saulus Bertl: do I really dont have to compile util-vservers myself? Even the new bcap is not known: Unknown bcap 'VXC_FS_SECURITY'
1234190161 M * Bertl yes, that is expected, I explained that you have to use the numeric equivalent for that for now
1234190299 M * saulus ok, now I just have to fix the remaining "hit the barrier" problem
1234190315 J * arekm matrix157@83.238.65.58
1234190318 M * arekm huge oops 8-)
1234190326 N * ensc Guest571
1234190331 M * arekm but don't know who is guilty (yet)
1234190336 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA63F0.dip.t-dialin.net
1234190346 N * arekm Guest572
1234190347 M * Guest572 http://pld.pastebin.com/f33bfa686
1234190372 M * Bertl saulus: run showattr -d  on all the path elements for your guest
1234190415 M * Guest572 bah, old kernel also borked
1234190426 M * Bertl looks like xfs issue
1234190439 M * Guest572 yeah
1234190446 Q * Guest571 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234190717 M * derjohn Bertl, are vserver related xfs issue ? or generally ?
1234190733 M * Bertl general xfs issue
1234190763 M * Guest572 probably earlier "hang" corrupted something
1234190777 M * saulus Bertl: I dont seem to get it better: http://pld.pastebin.com/m75c94bd7
1234190827 M * Bertl what is etcConfigs?
1234190955 M * saulus thats from a time I didnt know anything about vservers: /etc/vservers -> /var/lib/vservers/etcConfigs/
1234190971 M * Bertl that's not used anymore, right?
1234191006 M * Bertl if it is, it won't work, in the same directory as the guests are
1234191052 M * Bertl your guest is called ldap?
1234191062 M * saulus one is called ldap
1234191068 M * saulus this IS used
1234191084 M * Bertl then please get rid of that, i.e. copy that dir to /etc/vservers
1234191126 M * saulus k
1234191199 M * Bertl if ldap is one of the non-working guests, I'd like to see the output of: showattr -d /var{,/lib{,/vservers{,/ldap}}}
1234191421 M * saulus surely there is something wrong with the links. http://pld.pastebin.com/m230d9fdf 
1234191467 M * saulus vserver ldap start: save_ctxinfo: symlink("/etc/vservers/ldap","/etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/40053"): No such file or directory
1234191489 M * Bertl well, atm, there are no guests in /var/lib/vservefrs
1234191496 M * Bertl *vservers
1234191511 M * Bertl maybe you installed them elsewhere, check with
1234191537 M * Bertl ls -ls -l /etc/vservers/ldap/vdir
1234191545 M * Bertl ls -l /etc/vservers/ldap/vdir
1234191613 M * saulus isnt there somewhere a doc containing the directory structure? Its a sad work for you fixing mine over irc ... 
1234191625 M * saulus /etc/vservers/ldap/vdir -> /var/lib/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ldap
1234191648 Q * Guest572 Quit: leaving
1234191662 M * saulus and there it is
1234191675 M * Bertl and ls -l /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase
1234191715 M * saulus http://pld.pastebin.com/m7b731bb9
1234191767 M * Bertl interesting, so you made that a directory ...
1234191776 M * Bertl well, are you on debian?
1234191784 M * saulus yes
1234191804 M * Bertl and you are using debian util-vserver, yes?
1234191810 M * sid3windr mhm
1234191811 M * saulus i know i changed smth. once and tried to recover, but somehow switched the structure with it
1234191814 M * saulus yes
1234191818 M * sid3windr I can't ping from a vserver, what am I missing? :/
1234191829 M * sid3windr I have put RAW_ICMP in ccapabilities file but still no go
1234191834 M * geb sid3windr, a cap
1234191834 M * sid3windr 2.6.22.14-vs2.3.0.29
1234191837 M * Bertl saulus: okay, then your guest data belongs to /var/lib/vservers (debian oddity)
1234191847 M * Bertl saulus: so the procedure to recover here is now:
1234191869 M * Bertl saulus: move all the directories from /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase to /var/lib/vservers
1234191872 M * sid3windr geb: ... :P "a" cap :)
1234191884 M * sid3windr I have now put on a debian cap, but still nothnig :]
1234191893 M * Bertl saulus: make /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase a link to /var/lib/vservers
1234191921 M * Bertl sid3windr: what do you try to ping?
1234191939 M * sid3windr ehh, a host...?
1234191959 M * Bertl does it ping with 'ping -I <guest-ip> <host> (on the host?)
1234191981 M * sid3windr yes
1234191992 M * sid3windr in the guest I get ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
1234192015 M * Bertl and you have RAW_ICMP set? check with /proc/virtual/<xid>/status
1234192061 M * sid3windr do you have a nice way to go from the hex value to which caps are set? ;)
1234192078 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1234192115 M * sid3windr yes, RAW_ICMP is set
1234192122 M * sid3windr CCaps:  0000000000000101
1234192146 M * sid3windr I do realise this is a somewhat old version of the vserver patch ;/
1234192177 M * Bertl older than 3 years?
1234192189 M * sid3windr 2.3.0.29
1234192193 M * sid3windr so, no, don't think so :P
1234192205 M * sid3windr but maybe it didn't work just in that version or so :]
1234192207 M * sid3windr as it's a 2.3
1234192211 M * Bertl yeah could be the reason
1234192224 M * sid3windr :(
1234192233 M * Bertl we fixed something in this regard not so long ago
1234192255 M * Bertl but you could do an strace -fF on the ping (inside the guest)
1234192378 M * sid3windr http://www.paste-it.net/public/pab4739/
1234192400 M * derjohn sid3windr, what is the answer from the shell ? Maybe you have wrong netmask or an iptables FW ...
1234192430 M * sid3windr ehh..?
1234192457 M * sid3windr neither of them cause it to not be able to open the socket
1234192645 M * sid3windr Bertl: anything blatantly obvious in there? ;)
1234192763 J * arekm_ arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1234192782 M * arekm_ xfs_repair helped.
1234192802 N * arekm_ arekm
1234192808 M * Bertl sid3windr: nah, supposed to work on recent kernel
1234192837 M * sid3windr okay
1234192841 M * sid3windr I'll just blame the old patch
1234192850 M * sid3windr put new_raw until I have time and window to upgrade the kernel
1234192850 M * sid3windr :)
1234192854 M * sid3windr *net_raw
1234192991 M * Bertl okay
1234193061 M * sid3windr thanks for the assistance in any case :)
1234193078 M * Bertl np
1234193098 M * ktwilight__ Bertl, 2.3.0.36.7 is not applicable to .27 kernel?
1234193103 Q * geb Quit: Quitte
1234193122 M * Bertl ktwilight__: nope, but there will be a backport of the scheduler stuff, once it is working
1234193138 M * ktwilight__ k
1234193268 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51
1234193512 M * saulus Bertl: http://pld.pastebin.com/m3f2c3524
1234193710 M * Bertl same with /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev
1234193743 M * Bertl run.rev -> /var/run/vservers.rev/
1234193756 Q * urbi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234194134 M * saulus http://pld.pastebin.com/m6fee484c
1234194137 M * saulus Bertl: 
1234194156 M * saulus The error messages dont change, but I'm totally confused right now
1234194178 M * saulus so at least you get me change my state :)
1234194207 M * Bertl does /var/run/vservers.rev/ exist?
1234194283 M * saulus yes, but its empty
1234194302 M * Bertl but it is a directory, yes?
1234194307 M * saulus yes
1234194349 M * Bertl good, I suspect you might now be suffering from misplaced barrier flags (after you moved the guests into the config dir :)
1234194370 M * saulus sounds good :)
1234194436 M * Bertl let's check that with something like: find /etc/vservers/ -type d -exec showattr -d {} \; | grep -- --B
1234194454 M * Bertl if you see _any_ directory listed there, you want to remove the barrier on it
1234194457 M * saulus the showattr from befor ~45 min: http://pld.pastebin.com/m528faf43
1234194462 M * saulus k
1234194483 M * saulus nothing
1234194545 M * Bertl okay, run 'vserver --debug ldap start' and upload the output
1234195620 M * saulus Bertl: Here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1331643
1234195762 Q * transacid Remote host closed the connection
1234195785 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1234196156 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1234196286 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat
1234196357 M * saulus now my find / -type f -name 40053 has completed ... nothing found
1234196447 M * Bertl please run the following on the host:
1234196450 M * Bertl /usr/sbin/chbind --silent --secure --nid 40053 --ip 10.1.1.101/24 -- /usr/sbin/vcontext --create --silent --xid 40053 -- /usr/sbin/vattribute --set --secure --flag default --flag fakeinit -- ls -lad /etc/vservers/ldap /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/40053
1234196510 M * Bertl remove and if that gives a dir and No such file, try with /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev instead of /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/40053
1234196616 Q * xdr_ Quit: leaving
1234196626 Q * xdr Quit: leaving
1234196645 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.247.cust.blixtvik.net
1234196844 M * saulus http://pld.pastebin.com/m1a9d5df5
1234197309 M * saulus knows anyone, why the make process of the kernel is so beautifully well aligned and self descriptive? [CC|LD|AS]<tab>$FILENAME . Looks much better than the old screw-my-screen-make
1234197326 M * saulus s/knows anyone/does anyone know/
1234197344 M * sid3windr does anyone know why? because they made it like that... ;/
1234197355 M * Bertl because the kernel build system maintainer spends a lot of time on makining the build system nice and efficient
1234197380 M * saulus so its not the "Cmake" stuff or so?
1234197387 M * Bertl saulus: and if you use /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/ instead of /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev ?
1234197523 M * saulus Bertl: http://pld.pastebin.com/m47aade27
1234197556 M * Bertl so that directory does not exist inside the context
1234197573 M * Bertl let's do the following commands to narrow it down:
1234197609 M * Bertl ls -lad /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/
1234197626 M * saulus drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 17 21:38 /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/
1234197660 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 40053 --secure -- ls -lad /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/
1234197683 M * saulus New security context is 40053 \n ls: cannot access /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev/: No such file or directory
1234197691 M * Bertl see?
1234197699 M * saulus dont understand, but yes
1234197702 M * Bertl now we need to break that down into the path elements
1234197707 M * saulus ok
1234197732 M * Bertl repeat it with one by one removed and the same with the destination of the link 
1234197750 M * saulus http://pld.pastebin.com/m44d2e29e
1234197816 M * saulus http://pld.pastebin.com/m13c5e4b0
1234197821 M * saulus the last one is complete
1234197859 M * Bertl so, something is wrong with the /etc/vservers/.defaults
1234197906 M * Bertl i.e. run showattr -d , lsattr -d and ls -lad on that dir on the host
1234197933 M * Bertl and the same for /etc/vservers
1234198172 M * saulus this one maybe: -----ui- /etc/vservers/.defaults? 
1234198192 M * saulus shall it be -----bui- /dir/ ?
1234198213 M * Bertl yes, and it would be, if /etc/vservers/.defaults was a directory :)
1234198235 M * Bertl I presume it is another link you created at some point
1234198236 M * saulus /etc/vservers/.defaults -> /var/lib/vservers/.defaults/
1234198249 M * saulus yes, didnt you say ... Im confused :)
1234198257 M * Bertl so pretty please .. get rid of that, once and forever
1234198264 M * saulus so how should this look like?
1234198288 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html
1234198300 M * saulus or shall I move /var/lib/vservers/.defaults/ to /etv/vservers/
1234198319 M * Bertl if you moved it the other way before, then probably yes
1234198338 M * saulus the flower page ... never noticed the links
1234198359 M * Bertl basically all config resides in /etc/vservers
1234198380 M * Bertl do not move the config out of there, unless you recompile util-vserver to use a different path
1234198400 M * Bertl also, do not put _any_ config data at the same level as the guest data (or below)
1234198447 M * Bertl if you want to store it on a guest specific mount, make a subdirectory for the config, and a sub directory to contain the guest
1234198464 M * Bertl (but no need for that I guess)
1234198486 M * saulus yeah, some more links and stuff changed - the first vserver works again :) Curiously my setting worked before I booted the new kernel
1234198543 M * Bertl not really kernel related, but util-vserver will have changed a few permission attributes on bootup
1234198559 M * saulus so thank you! Ill rebuild the other vservers and afterwards report the samba-and its flag-success (hopefully)
1234198572 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1234198749 M * derjohn Bertl, i have a .7 running now
1234198830 M * derjohn I'll try to "vserver foo stop ; vserver foo enter" to provoke the prob ?
1234198895 M * Bertl well, that sequence won't work, but running 'vserver foo restart' and 'vserver foo enter' should test it
1234199115 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1234199115 M * saulus When I find ----Bui- /var/lib/vservers/squid/ I presume it should be ----bui- /var/lib/vservers/squid/. Do I get my results with setattr --barrier /var/lib/vservers/squid/ ? I dont find documentation for this
1234199145 M * Bertl setattr --help
1234199161 M * Bertl and you want -B (barrier set) on /path/to/guest/..
1234199170 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.53.253
1234199171 M * Bertl and -b (barrier unset) below
1234199261 M * saulus Not that clear: let "/path/to/" be the path to my vserver "guest". Do I care about all above guest or only about the directory guest itself? 
1234199302 M * saulus I think its clear!
1234199304 M * saulus :)
1234199305 M * Bertl I do not explain that again, (as nobody seems to understand it, although it is really trivial)
1234199316 M * Bertl I'll make an example for your ldap guest
1234199341 M * Bertl showattr -d /var/lib/vservers/ldap is supposed to give --b
1234199355 M * Bertl showattr -d /var/lib/vservers/ldap/.. is supposed to give --B
1234199361 M * derjohn Bertl, will vserver exec make it provoke, too ? then i'll so it with two shells and while loops ;)
1234199361 M * saulus ok, got it!
1234199401 M * Bertl derjohn: yes, probably ...
1234199403 M * derjohn k
1234199416 M * derjohn Bertl, well, probably not anymore ;)
1234199434 M * Bertl yep, goes for the old kernel
1234199581 Q * Supaplex Read error: Connection reset by peer
1234200250 M * derjohn so, got the shell-foo running. vserver exec echo foo is hopefully enough ....
1234201204 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234201463 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer
1234201651 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection
1234201859 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.60.155
1234201967 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.93.49
1234202000 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4
1234202025 Q * saulus Remote host closed the connection
1234202091 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234202388 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1234202414 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180221195.adsl.alicedsl.de
1234204085 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
1234204592 J * saulus ~saulus@d170104.adsl.hansenet.de
1234204744 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1234205646 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1234205918 Q * esa` Quit: Coyote finally caught me
1234206294 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1234206316 M * saulus Bertl: Great stuff - your acl (user_attr)-extension works: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12735. Many thanks for all your great support, help and developement!
1234206428 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1234206573 M * cehteh huh was user_xattr broken?
1234206586 M * cehteh i want to use it, but didnt checked yet
1234206614 M * Bertl nope, saulus is using security xattr
1234206630 M * cehteh ok
1234206653 M * cehteh anyone has experience with vserver+smack?
1234206673 M * cehteh i am too lazy to try, but smack looks promising
1234208264 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1234208543 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection
1234208571 Q * ghislainocfs2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234210573 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1234211567 Q * xdr Remote host closed the connection
1234211628 J * geb ~geb@79.82.4.192
1234212339 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.247.cust.blixtvik.net
1234212441 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection
1234214077 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-45-4.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net
1234214524 Q * ghislainocfs21 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1234214531 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1234214627 M * Guy- when I say vserver foo build --interface 1.2.3.4/32 (i.e. without naming an interface), will this IP be created with nodev?
1234214685 M * Guy- apparently, yez
1234214687 M * Guy- yes
1234214689 M * Guy- cool
1234214786 M * ghislainocfs2 else i beleive you can say nodev: as the interface
1234214818 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234214928 M * Guy- I tried it with -m skeleton, and it did create nodev
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1234216677 J * hufuv ~hufuv@193.43.249.169
1234216770 Q * hufuv Remote host closed the connection
1234216790 J * jucofi ~jucofi@193.43.249.169
1234216836 Q * jucofi Remote host closed the connection
1234216883 J * pety ~pety@193.43.249.169
1234216923 Q * pety Remote host closed the connection
1234217093 Q * harobed Read error: No route to host
1234217238 J * dobi ~dobi@193.43.249.169
1234217281 Q * dobi Remote host closed the connection
1234217310 J * lomugeke ~lomugeke@193.43.249.169
1234217387 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1234217605 M * Radiance hmm, i've changed the host time and date, but it seems the guest (after restarting it) keeps the old time. Thought it would take that of the host.
1234217644 M * Bertl depends on the config
1234217658 M * Radiance config has guest time feature disabled
1234217675 M * Bertl then it will definitely use the host time
1234217710 M * Bertl note that you have a timezone too
1234217722 M * Radiance yes, i've checked that too with tzconfig
1234217738 M * Bertl inside the guest, yes?
1234217743 M * Radiance i'll restart it again
1234217749 M * Radiance (yes in the guest indeed)
1234217999 M * Radiance hmm didn't work
1234218002 M * Radiance shows still the old time
1234218021 M * Radiance system and hardware clock time are equal in the host
1234218038 M * Bertl and the guest has a different time?
1234218089 M * Bertl without VIRT_TIME in cflags?
1234218128 M * Radiance yes guest is like 10 hours ahead
1234218136 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234218138 M * Radiance and no virt time is not there
1234218139 M * Bertl like 10, or exactly 10
1234218147 M * Radiance about 10
1234218160 M * Bertl so not exactly 10 hours?
1234218167 M * Radiance no not exactly
1234218182 M * Radiance it simply ticks but just not the time of the host 
1234218183 M * Bertl then my best bet is, you are on a different host
1234218203 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1234218227 M * Radiance i'm not, checked it in case i'm dreaming or so
1234218347 M * Bertl well, do the following for me then:
1234218362 M * Bertl date ; vserver guest exec date
1234218377 M * Radiance ok
1234218414 M * Radiance Mon Feb  9 23:25:17 EST 2009
1234218414 M * Radiance Tue Feb 10 05:25:17 CET 2009
1234218428 M * Bertl so, that's exactly in my book
1234218442 M * Bertl means, you have a different timezone set in the guest
1234218453 M * Bertl EST vs CET
1234218453 M * Radiance i've tried setting the timezon already to the same as the host
1234218457 M * Radiance didn't matter
1234218477 M * Bertl debian oddity, copy the /etc/timezone into the guest
1234218477 M * Radiance i can do it again just in case
1234218499 M * Radiance ok let me do that
1234218504 M * Bertl note that the host uses EST
1234218553 M * Radiance ok copied the timezone to the guest
1234218556 M * Radiance i'll restart the guest 
1234218562 M * Bertl no need to
1234218591 M * Radiance oh ok, thought just in case
1234218626 M * Radiance Tue Feb 10 05:28:58 CET 2009
1234218631 M * Radiance that's the guest time
1234218648 M * Radiance i can use tzconfig to set the timezone
1234218701 M * Bertl sorry, it's /etc/localtime
1234218716 M * Radiance ok np, lemme see
1234219096 M * Radiance ah that worked
1234219100 M * Radiance after copying localtime
1234219104 M * Radiance thanks mate
1234219113 M * Radiance i guess this is something debian specific
1234219126 M * Bertl so just the tzconfig is broken/not working
1234219866 J * xdr ~xdr@gote2.247.cust.blixtvik.net
1234220779 N * ensc Guest634
1234220789 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA63F0.dip.t-dialin.net
1234220897 Q * Guest634 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234220926 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1234221244 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6
1234222371 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23D72C.dip.t-dialin.net
1234223274 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection