1233188799 J * SlackLnx ~Lee@bl7-128-65.dsl.telepac.pt 1233188990 Q * Linus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233191016 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1233191021 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1233192886 Q * mnemoc Server closed connection 1233192898 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1233193933 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1233194828 J * xdr_ ~xdr@gote2.247.cust.blixtvik.net 1233194934 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233196559 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo470042.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp 1233196563 P * takeru 1233201875 Q * balbir_ Read error: Operation timed out 1233202586 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.54.10 1233204613 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233204809 J * doener ~doener@i577BBA18.versanet.de 1233207622 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233209012 Q * kiorky Server closed connection 1233209014 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net 1233210817 Q * fosco_ Server closed connection 1233210819 J * fosco fosco@212.85.148.86 1233210899 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1233211812 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1233212170 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1233212983 Q * ruskie Server closed connection 1233213144 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1233213170 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1233213837 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1233215113 Q * geb Quit: Quitte 1233216257 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1233216298 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71 1233216703 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233216750 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1233217503 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1233217570 Q * wenchien Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5 1233217773 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1233219866 Q * balbir_ Remote host closed the connection 1233220386 J * gypsymauro ~colorioma@84.18.151.77 1233220387 M * gypsymauro hi 1233220404 M * gypsymauro how can I check if the barrier is set in the right way? 1233220758 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-195-10.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net 1233221233 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1233221395 Q * gypsymauro Quit: leaving 1233222200 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1233222895 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-224-78-200.access.telenet.be 1233223816 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1233224174 Q * _nono_ Server closed connection 1233224186 J * _nono_ ~gomes@libation.ircam.fr 1233224528 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224608 Q * karasz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224615 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224620 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224623 Q * DLange Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224638 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224638 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224638 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224640 Q * bibabu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224643 Q * padde Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233224648 Q * mEDI_S Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233225274 J * mcp ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1233225291 J * Hollow ~hollow@shiva.xnull.de 1233225353 J * bibabu bibabu@vserv2.de 1233225562 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1233225566 M * Bertl morning folks! 1233225639 M * ktwilight_ mornin' Bertl! 1233225714 M * ktwilight_ just remembered you updated the patches, but i forgot to update the wiki. will do it now :) 1233225718 M * ktwilight_ hmm, the site is unresponsive. 1233225923 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233225925 J * grobie ~grobie@tyr.schnuckelig.eu 1233225984 M * ktwilight_ it's back :) 1233226683 J * no_x ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de 1233226814 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de 1233226824 Q * no_x 1233226824 Q * nox 1233226973 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de 1233227276 J * zolty ~pzoltows@mion.elka.pw.edu.pl 1233227280 M * zolty hi aall 1233227300 M * Bertl hey 1233227337 M * zolty what's up / 1233227339 M * zolty ? 1233227413 M * zolty i'm looking for a good howto run a vserver for apache server 1233227429 M * Bertl hmm? 1233227458 M * zolty or maybe u can give me some links to run vserver with separate servers from each other 1233227461 M * zolty i mean ftp http 1233227486 M * Bertl well, you create a guest for the service(s) you want to run 1233227500 M * Bertl and from there on, it is basically like a separate linux machine 1233227528 M * Bertl the only difference is that you share the host networking and resources 1233227557 M * zolty got it...but i cannot understand configuration method which i found on official site 1233227576 M * Bertl how so? what's the problem there? 1233227612 M * zolty i've read how to install and its clear 1233227699 M * Bertl okay, but? 1233227702 M * zolty than building a guest howto is most of it clear 1233227706 M * zolty but what next ? 1233227723 M * Bertl install apache in that guest, configure it to your likings? 1233227772 M * zolty but where is written how to configure it ? 1233227787 M * zolty sth like step by step 1233227791 M * zolty or examples 1233227914 M * Bertl well, I guess the apache site has plenty of howtos and documentation on configuring apache 1233227962 M * zolty i quite know how to configure apache 1233227984 M * Bertl so, where is the problem? what configuration challenges do you face? 1233227991 M * zolty :) 1233228010 M * Bertl I'm trying to figure what you actually need/want ... don't get me wrong 1233228047 M * zolty i haven't installed vserver yet, i'm going to do it so i am reading documentation, faq and asking here 1233228095 M * zolty maybe my questions are not necessery because when i install vserver everything will go easy 1233228114 M * zolty and i will understand in 100% how it works 1233228130 M * zolty but for know i'm a little but confused 1233228137 M * zolty s/know/now 1233228140 M * Bertl well, there are no 'apache specific' configurations or installations for Linux-VServer per se, because it is basically like installing apache on your favorite distro 1233228157 M * Bertl (assuming that you installed that very same distro in your guest :) 1233228204 M * zolty do i need to install distro in my guest ? 1233228221 M * zolty i mean to run apache i only need this package and few lib 1233228253 M * zolty am i right ? 1233228272 M * Bertl yes, you can make it minimal (depending on your distro/setup) 1233228287 M * Bertl basically you could get away with a single apache binary (static) 1233228311 J * cga_ ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1233228330 Q * cga Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233228347 M * Bertl nevertheless, most distros have a shitload of stuff you do not actually need, but which is linked into many 'essential' binaries ... 1233228368 M * zolty this is what i cannot find because in building guest it is only show how to install distros in guest 1233228382 M * zolty i mean in documentation 1233228420 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1233228572 M * Bertl yes, that is correct ... but anything which runs can be used inside a guest too 1233228589 M * Bertl so for your case, consider it a chroot on steroids 1233228612 M * Bertl i.e. if you have something which runs in a chroot, you can use that as guest as well 1233228646 M * zolty ok 1233228650 M * Bertl you will need to write a simple 'startup' script for the service(s) to start/stop them (like a distro does) 1233228676 M * zolty scriptt in guest, right ? 1233228676 M * Bertl but that can be fairly simple and you can adjust what scripts are executed (in the guest config) 1233228681 M * Bertl yes 1233228719 M * Bertl for this purpose, you probably want to use a 'skeleton' guest (build method skeleton) and run it without separate init 1233228740 M * Bertl i.e. sysv setup, which requires that you provide the rc script for startup/shutdown 1233228988 J * Punkie ~Punkie@2a01:5f0:1:80:216:d4ff:fe05:5987 1233229581 Q * sladen Server closed connection 1233229588 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1233230695 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net 1233231113 M * matti Hi Bertl 1233231113 M * matti ; 1233232829 Q * SlackLnx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1233232959 J * SlackLnx ~Lee@bl9-68-247.dsl.telepac.pt 1233233649 J * stimpy ~stimpy@ip-77-24-43-77.web.vodafone.de 1233233654 M * stimpy hi everybody.. 1233233669 M * stimpy I have a sudden problem.. ;) 1233233710 M * Bertl okay? 1233233734 M * stimpy My hoster had a power-outage (don't ask! ;> ) so my rooty rebooted and now I can't ping from inside vserver guests anymore.. I already googled and found a lot, but nothing helps.. :/ 1233233741 M * stimpy here's some info about my system: 1233233798 M * stimpy os: debian/etch, kernel: 2.6.25-2-vserver-amd64, util-vserver: 0.30.212-1 1233233863 M * stimpy I read a lot about the ccapabilities file and setting S_CAPS in a file like "/etc/vserver/.conf" (which doesnt exist on my system..?) 1233233863 M * Bertl well, that's a funny combination .. I'd suggest to update both kernel and util-vserver 1233233898 M * Bertl no, the /etc/vserver/.conf was dropped about 5 years ago and replaced by a tree based config 1233233903 M * stimpy But first: I never had these files and it worked till the reboot and second: They did'nt help even if I created them.. ;) 1233233929 M * stimpy Hum? But I just did a dist-upgrade..? 1233233943 M * Bertl check in backports for working versions 1233233967 M * stimpy There is no new kernel nor util-vserver in the default-repo or the backports-repo..? At least not for debian/etch? 1233233971 M * stimpy I'll try again.. ;) 1233233979 M * Bertl you probably want to run 2.6.26/27 and util-vserver 0.30.216pre* 1233234005 M * stimpy oh, okay - there is a new util-vserver I didnt see.. sorry..! :) 1233234013 M * stimpy But about the kernel... Well, we'll see.. ;) 1233234019 M * stimpy First: Thanks. ;) 1233234027 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1233234062 J * Stubbers ~sif@137.75.96.58.exetel.com.au 1233234137 M * Stubbers having problems with cpanel not recognizing secondary ip's in a centos vserver on a debian host, anyone got some tips? 1233234170 M * yang Bertl: are there issues with IPv6 support on debian vserver port ? 1233234233 M * stimpy HA! \o/ 1233234237 M * stimpy Thanks again..! ;) 1233234238 M * yang Bertl: I haven't tested it out yet, but I am wondering if it would work on guests? 1233234242 M * stimpy it's working now.. :) 1233234293 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1233234476 J * mfv ~mfv@net-93-148-126-89.t2.dsl.vodafone.it 1233234490 J * Daniel15 ~irc@adsl.daniel15.com 1233234597 Q * Stubbers Read error: Connection reset by peer 1233234656 J * Stubbers ~sif@137.75.96.58.exetel.com.au 1233234724 M * Stubbers anyone got a minute to give a hand with getting cpanel to recognize ip's on a vserver? 1233234758 M * Bertl yang: I tell you I have no idea what the debian kernels do or don't do .. it works fine in Linux-VServer mainline AFAIK 1233235023 Q * Stubbers Read error: Connection reset by peer 1233235161 P * mfv debian/rules! 1233235248 M * Daniel15 Hey everyone... What's the proper method of making all of a vserver's IP address appear in the "ifconfig" output? I've got a vserver with cPanel installed and it's not recognising the extra two IPs I've added to the vserver because they're not in the ifconfig output I think. 1233235468 M * maharaja ifconfig is old and should, imho, be regarded as deprecated 1233235488 M * Punkie try to name them in file "name" in /etc/vservers/vserverX/0/name, after that, they should be visible also by command ifconfig 1233235504 M * maharaja "ip addr show" is the correct way to display ip information 1233235512 M * maharaja mhm ... that could also work ; 1233235513 M * maharaja ;) 1233235521 M * maharaja never used that "feature" *g* 1233235542 M * Daniel15 I've tried naming them and that didn't seem to work - http://pastebin.ws/9r4gf2 1233235574 M * Daniel15 From inside the vserver - http://pastebin.ws/666lq7 1233235689 M * maharaja Daniel15: did you restart the vserver? what does "ip addr show" say? 1233235702 M * Bertl Daniel15: because you got it wrong :) 1233235727 M * Bertl the 'name' part is only the alias name, i.e. '0' or '1' or '2' 1233235731 M * Daniel15 Yeah I've restarted the vserver. "ip addr show" shows this: http://pastebin.ws/akhnns 1233235732 M * Daniel15 Ohhhhh 1233235733 M * Daniel15 Okay 1233235735 M * Daniel15 I'll try that :P 1233235751 M * maharaja Bertl: oh :) 1233235818 M * Bertl Daniel15: but you have to remove the existing IPs, i.e. if you changed the values and then restarted the guest, the old IPs will not get removed 1233235837 M * Bertl (means: it would have been better to stop the guest first, then do the changes :) 1233235912 M * Daniel15 Thanks :) 1233235913 M * Daniel15 Hmmm 1233235925 M * Daniel15 I stopped the guest, then started it again, but it didn't seem to work 1233235985 M * Bertl stop the guest, make sure that none of those guest IPs are shown in 'ip addr ls', then start the guest again 1233236026 M * Bertl if that fails too, please upload the entries in /etc/vservers//interfaces to a pastebin 1233236073 M * Daniel15 Ohh I see 1233236078 M * Daniel15 They're listed in "ip addr ls" 1233236083 M * Daniel15 http://pastebin.ws/8edtuz 1233236087 M * Daniel15 How do I remove/delete them? 1233236094 M * Bertl ip addr del ... 1233236100 M * Daniel15 Ah okay 1233236102 M * Daniel15 Will try, one sec :) 1233236361 M * Daniel15 Aha 1233236362 M * Daniel15 Fixed! 1233236363 M * Daniel15 Thanks :) 1233236372 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1233236469 M * Daniel15 Well, I'm off to bed now. Just wanted to fix that problem first ^^ 1233236471 M * Daniel15 Goodnight :D 1233236529 Q * Daniel15 Quit: Daniel15 1233236697 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1233238026 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233238042 J * gerrit ~gerrit@ionscale.com 1233238309 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1233238314 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1233238920 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1233238978 Q * SlackLnx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233239465 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1233239490 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1233239493 N * emcepe mcp 1233239769 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233240458 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233240656 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1233241408 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo888227.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp 1233241420 P * takeru 1233241517 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo888227.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp 1233242992 J * dowdle ~dowdle@71-32-20-209.blng.qwest.net 1233243072 M * Stereo hello 1233243089 M * Stereo I was here with a routing problem yesterday 1233243105 M * Stereo basically, I have a host server connected to two subnets, A and B 1233243111 M * Stereo some machines are on A, some on B 1233243147 M * Stereo when a machine that's on A wants to access a machine that's on B but not hosted by my virtual host, I'd like it to go through the gateway 1233243166 M * Stereo but the host machine notices it has a route for that subnet, and routes the packet directly to the interface 1233243205 M * Stereo is there an easy way I can tell linux to send packets on the interface it's been told to send them, or do I have to configure source routing policies? 1233243417 M * fb Stereo: this behavior is in consistence with ip-related RFC-s 1233243438 M * fb (and it's called like weak host binding, or slt) 1233243785 M * Stereo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_model <- this? 1233243934 M * fb this is one of the cosequences, yes 1233244006 M * fb and rfc 1812 is probably another good document to read :) 1233244077 M * Stereo so source routing it is then? 1233244438 M * fb Stereo: if the packet is destined to the host, no matter which interface, the packet won't go through FORWARD chain 1233244468 M * Stereo it's destined for a machine on subnet B 1233244471 M * fb Stereo: you can only push it there with rules in INPUT chain 1233244485 M * Stereo a real machine 1233244513 M * Stereo I should make a small drawing 1233244670 M * fb Stereo: okay, if its physical machine on A that sends a packet to a machine in B, then it will go to some router, based on the routing table on the host in A 1233244702 M * fb Stereo: usually there's only one destination on the host, 0.0.0.0/0 aka default route 1233244769 M * Stereo but if it's a virtual machine V, connected to subnet A, hosted on the virtual host H, which is connected to A and B 1233244772 M * fb if hosts in B should be reached through another gateway, you need proper routing entry in the host routing table 1233244788 M * Stereo going te a real machine R, which is also in B 1233244794 M * Stereo s/te/to/ 1233244803 M * fb Stereo: keep in mind, there's big difference between real and virtual hosts 1233244825 M * Stereo the packet will go from V to H, H will notice, hey, I have a direct route to R, I'll send it directly 1233244828 M * fb Stereo: all IP's are assigned to the host that hosts virtuals 1233244849 M * fb and the guests can see only a subset of them 1233244858 M * Stereo R receives the packet, wants to send a reply, has no direct route to V, send the reply through the gateway 1233244873 M * fb so the packet destined to the guest is still destined to one and only machine 1233244890 M * Stereo the gateway sees the reply, says hey, what's that reply, the first packet never went through me, and drops that packet 1233244895 M * fb and without special rules will never hit FORWARD chain 1233244910 M * fb no 1233244919 M * fb packet never goes from V to H 1233244930 M * Stereo well, "goes" 1233244961 M * Stereo H does the sending and routing for V, if I understand correctly 1233245029 M * fb all the networking is done on the H 1233245086 M * fb and basically what V does is to limit IPs to which client can bind 1233245089 M * Stereo and since there's no way to tell H to send the packet to the gateway... 1233245123 M * fb Stereo: oh, you can surely craft some iptables rules to do so 1233245145 M * Stereo based on the ip I'm sending the packet from? 1233245147 M * fb but it's not that easy and prone to errors :) 1233245153 M * Stereo yeah :) 1233245155 M * fb and horrible to maintain 1233245172 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1233245293 J * dna ~dna@196-205-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1233245306 M * daniel_hozac source based routing isn't hard. 1233245327 M * Stereo it isn't? 1233245344 M * maharaja depends on where you want to do it ;) 1233245365 M * Stereo my virtual host H, really 1233245492 M * daniel_hozac no. just ip rule add from lookup 100; ip rule add from lookup 101; ip route add dev table 100; ip route add default dev via table 100 etc. 1233245525 M * Stereo that's *exactly* what I wanted to do 1233245600 M * Stereo thank you so much :) 1233245645 M * fb daniel_hozac: are you sure this will make a packet from host on B to be routed to a V on subnet B? 1233245655 M * fb *host on A 1233245683 M * daniel_hozac it has nothing to do with that. 1233245689 M * daniel_hozac that's the gateway's job. 1233245717 M * fb daniel_hozac: but if i can understand Stereo, host is gateway 1233245736 M * fb with separate gateway it's that easy, right :) 1233245737 M * Stereo sorry, no 1233245743 M * Stereo the gateway is separate 1233245762 M * fb Stereo: then it's that simple 1233245763 M * daniel_hozac if the host had been the gateway, there wouldn't even be a problem in the first place. 1233245779 M * Stereo and the gateway is also connected to the two subnets 1233245791 M * Stereo yes, there wouldn't have been a problem 1233245809 M * Stereo great 1233245813 M * Stereo I'll try it :) 1233245946 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-88-114.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1233245969 M * fb daniel_hozac: if he require the packet destined from host A to Virtual B to be "routed" then it wouldn't be that easy 1233245998 M * Stereo if A and B are on the same subnet, I'm ok with them not being routed 1233245999 Q * cga_ Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1233246017 M * Stereo otherwise I'd have to add a separate route on A too 1233246030 M * fb Stereo: nah, with separate gateway there's no problem at all 1233246066 M * fb unless you want VA to VB to be routed too 1233246094 M * Stereo no, VA to VB can stay out of my way :) 1233246445 M * Stereo so, would http://pastie.textmate.org/374272 do it? 1233246494 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1233246877 M * Stereo ok, the machine's half an hour away, and there's some live stuff running on it 1233246906 M * Stereo I think it's probably safer to try it on site tomorrow morning 1233246918 M * Stereo I'll let you guys know how it went 1233246940 M * Stereo thanks again, daniel_hozac, fb and maharaja! 1233246962 M * Stereo and thanks for your precious help yesterday too, Bertl 1233247811 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com 1233247967 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1233248139 Q * mEDI_S Remote host closed the connection 1233248332 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1233248588 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:212:f0ff:fe0f:6f86 1233248591 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1233248602 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com 1233249860 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1233250615 Q * takeru Quit: takeru 1233251581 Q * esa Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1233251630 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233251672 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1233252903 M * ard ard@sponltest:/var/web/htdocs/qq$ ls -al 1233252904 M * ard total 12 1233252904 M * ard drwxrwsr-x 3 ard www-data 4096 Jan 29 19:14 . 1233252904 M * ard drwxrwsr-x 4 root www-data 4096 Jan 29 18:59 .. 1233252904 M * ard drwxr-sr-x 2 ard www-data 4096 Jan 29 18:59 qw 1233252906 M * ard ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? ww 1233252906 M * ard :-( 1233252931 M * ard hmmmm 1233252941 M * ard /dev/md5 /var/www/htdocs ext3 rw,tag,nodev,errors=continue,data=ordered 0 0 1233252948 M * ard doesn't show a notagcheck 1233252993 M * ard is notagcheck still supported in 2.3.0.36.4? 1233253194 M * daniel_hozac it should be. 1233253196 M * daniel_hozac which kernel? 1233253203 M * ard 2.6.27.13 1233253224 A * ard just upgraded from 2.6.22-something to 2.6.27.13 1233253242 M * daniel_hozac yep, it is. 1233253270 M * ard then I will take a closer look at what's going on 1233253282 M * daniel_hozac are you sure it was mounted with notagcheck? 1233253303 M * ard well, with the 2.6.22 kernel this worked in /etc/vserver/*/fstab: 1233253308 M * ard /var/lib/vservers/sponltest/var/www/htdocs/ /var/www/htdocs/ none notagcheck,bind 0 0 1233253327 M * daniel_hozac it's a superblock option now, not a vfsmount option. 1233253329 M * ard but I can't find it back in /proc/mounts 1233253333 M * ard ah 1233253336 M * ard ow... 1233253367 M * daniel_hozac it became necessary to fully implement it. 1233253411 A * ard thinks 1233253420 M * ard that means it's an option per partition? 1233253438 M * ard So I can distinguish vservers, but the checking will always be off? 1233253454 M * daniel_hozac per filesystem, yeah. 1233253466 M * ard actually, I can live with that ;-) 1233253491 M * daniel_hozac i couldn't think of a case that can't :-) 1233253510 M * ard so it means, we have user,group,vserver *and* copyonwrite-link-braking 1233253543 M * ard and if I am correct also no chroot escape 1233253583 M * ard It's a development system, and people work in an editing/cvs vserver directly on a "copy from live" vserver 1233253587 M * daniel_hozac well, with recent kernel+util-vserver, we no longer require the barrier. 1233253613 M * ard ah, but you probably know that I run debian/etch 8-D 1233253629 A * ard ducks :-) 1233254245 Q * Punkie Quit: Punkie 1233254802 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.93.49 1233255419 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233256558 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1233257311 M * ard Hmmmm... 1233257343 M * ard on one vserver a telnet to 127.0.0.1 has 127.0.0.1 as the source address 1233257360 M * ard on another it has the "public" ip as the source address 1233257798 M * ard TIME-WAIT 0 0 127.156.67.1:36311 127.156.67.1:38129 1233257798 M * ard ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:33414 127.0.0.1:45296 1233257859 M * ard there is a conversion problem on connections != ESTAB ;-) 1233257888 M * ard although netstat -a does it ok. 1233257890 M * fb ard: loopback has 127.0.0.0/8 space 1233257936 M * ard fb: but it forgets to convert the context id in the ip back to 127.0.0.1 :-) 1233257950 M * fb ard: and guest loopback is produced from guest nid? 1233257958 M * ard yes :-) 1233258009 M * ard The problem I had was probably routing, because when I put 32 into prefix, connections to 127.0.0.1, originated from 127.0.0.1 ... 1233258027 A * ard slaps himself 1233258053 M * ard "do not ever upgrade the vserver kernel again if you need to deliver right now!" 1233258060 M * ard (somebody must do it :-) ) 1233258090 M * ard not that the newer is broken or something like that. It just behaved slightly different 1233258572 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1233259011 J * geb ~geb@55.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1233259350 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1233259655 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-45-4.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net 1233259735 Q * geb Quit: Quitte 1233259741 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1233259744 M * Bertl back now ... 1233260102 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1233262041 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1233262051 N * Bertl bertl_zZ 1233262079 M * tam Anyone around who happens to be running ntpd inside a guest? 1233262109 M * daniel_hozac for what purpose? 1233262245 M * tam time server 1233262276 M * daniel_hozac i.e. distributing time to other clients? 1233262280 M * tam yes 1233264490 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1233264509 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1233266332 J * geb ~geb@55.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1233266352 M * geb hi 1233267620 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1233267760 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1233267905 Q * hijacker_ Remote host closed the connection 1233269844 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@60.101-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1233270109 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233270415 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233271730 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1233272835 Q * mEDI_S Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1233272866 N * bertl_zZ Bertl 1233272870 M * Bertl back now ... 1233272928 M * Bertl tam: should be possible, but you need to give certain priviledges to the guest to make use of kernel ntp support 1233272957 M * Bertl tam: which is definitely something you _want_ when running a time server to be used for other machines