1232496572 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232498352 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1232498607 Q * TimLyth Quit: [BX] With a BitchX here and a BitchX there, here a BitchX there a BitchX everywhere a BitchX 1232499332 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:212:f0ff:fe0f:6f86 1232499719 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1232503058 Q * takeru Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232504831 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo844251.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp 1232506695 Q * docelic__ Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1232507858 Q * pflanze Quit: Leaving 1232508913 J * ousado_ ~johnny@frnk-5f7453d3.pool.einsundeins.de 1232508929 Q * ousado Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232509694 Q * ousado_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232509963 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1232509968 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1232510963 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-24-21-204-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1232511673 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1232511994 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1232512921 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.57.147 1232515700 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@254.124-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1232515972 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232518276 J * sharkjaw ~gab@217-26-13.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1232518295 J * sunkencity ~joel@c-4f662792-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1232520180 J * sunkencity_ ~joel@c-4f6636be-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1232520446 Q * sunkencity Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232521370 Q * sunkencity_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232522111 J * sunkencity ~joel@81-232-47-162-no38.business.telia.com 1232522117 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1232523893 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1232524036 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-24-21-204-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1232524150 J * cga ~weechat@62.196.2.6 1232524590 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-186-144.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net 1232525138 J * grocanar ~doutrele@157.159.21.158 1232527521 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1232527940 Q * gnuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232528504 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1232529239 M * s0undt3ch hello ppl 1232529253 M * s0undt3ch I'm having trouble upgrading an ubuntu guest 1232529280 M * s0undt3ch It's unable to upgrade udev beacuse mknod is not allowed, which is a security feature of vserver 1232529295 M * s0undt3ch how can I temporarily enable mknod inside a guest? 1232529593 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1232529676 J * sharkjaw ~gab@217-26-13.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1232530049 M * ktwilight_ s0undt3ch, enable the necessary capabilities 1232530140 M * ktwilight_ s0undt3ch, you need MKNOD http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags#System_capabilities_.28bcaps.29 1232530217 J * swen ~swen@213.143.91.254 1232530331 M * s0undt3ch ktwilight_: yeah, done, it worked, however now I got anothe issue, ubuntu's klogd fails to start :\ 1232530341 M * s0undt3ch I think it tries to mess with /proc 1232530358 M * s0undt3ch I've given the guest SYSLOG caps, still fails 1232530360 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1232530384 M * swen hi ppl 1232530441 M * ktwilight_ hm, i had the same problem with klogd before.... 1232530441 M * swen i'm wondering.....is it possible to apply recent vserver development patch to a 2.6.18-xen kernel? 1232530468 M * swen i mean, i've tryed and failed 1232530494 M * ktwilight_ s0undt3ch, try SYS_ADMIN 1232530497 M * swen is it possible to expect such a patch 1232530548 M * s0undt3ch ktwilight_: don't think it's needed, I just uncommented /etc/default/klogd last line 1232530571 M * ktwilight_ o 1232530664 M * s0undt3ch ktwilight_: you do need the SYSLOG caps though 1232530691 J * sharkjaw ~gab@217-26-13.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1232530732 N * ensc Guest1523 1232530742 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p57AA54F0.dip.t-dialin.net 1232530852 Q * Guest1523 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232531022 Q * friendly Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232531219 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection 1232531722 J * mtg ~mtg@vollkornmail.dbk-nb.de 1232531919 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1232531998 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232532373 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-206-223.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net 1232532857 Q * friendly Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232533300 J * ousado_ ~johnny@frnk-5f7453d3.pool.einsundeins.de 1232535778 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.199.34 1232537556 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1232538736 J * dna ~dna@124-203-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1232541234 Q * awk Read error: Operation timed out 1232541250 J * awk ~awk@security.web.za 1232541295 Q * takeru Quit: takeru 1232541962 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1232542117 M * pmjdebruijn is there a way to detect my Bash script is running inside a vserver? 1232542132 M * pmjdebruijn to prevent a script to be accidentally run in a host 1232542135 M * pmjdebruijn instead of a guest 1232542450 M * ousado_ pmjdebruijn: detect from inside that script? 1232542509 M * arekm pmjdebruijn: /proc/self/status and VxID: or s_context: there - if none or 0 then "host" 1232542737 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1232543013 M * pmjdebruijn ousado_: yeah 1232543014 M * pmjdebruijn arekm: cool 1232543167 M * arekm pmjdebruijn: we use this http://pld.pastebin.com/f60382033 1232543242 M * daniel_hozac swen: no. 1232543282 M * daniel_hozac swen: patches only apply to a specific kernel. that's why the kernel version is in the name. 1232543299 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1232543303 M * Bertl morning folks! 1232543342 M * Bertl swen: but if you get a 2.6.27/28 xen kernel, it should not be a big deal 1232543364 M * pmjdebruijn arekm: it's missing some of the vars... :p 1232543652 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend 1232543912 M * arekm pmjdebruijn: like what? 1232543992 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: check the 'read' in man 1 bash : 1232544070 M * pmjdebruijn arekm: yeah, I already noticed 1232544168 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:212:f0ff:fe0f:6f86 1232544846 Q * grocanar Quit: Quitte 1232545041 M * pmjdebruijn if [[ `cat /proc/self/status | grep VxID | awk -F ': ' '{print $2}'` -gt 0 ]]; then echo VSERVER; fi 1232545046 M * pmjdebruijn that's a lot simpler :) 1232545173 M * arekm still too complicated ;P 1232545182 M * daniel_hozac UUoC :-) 1232545187 M * pmjdebruijn UUoC? 1232545190 M * daniel_hozac useless use of cat. 1232545195 M * pmjdebruijn oh 1232545195 M * arekm and grep 1232545202 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1232545206 M * arekm and if ;P 1232545223 M * pmjdebruijn because? 1232545232 M * pmjdebruijn I understand about cat... but code reads easier that way 1232545233 M * arekm just awk is enough for all that 1232545250 M * daniel_hozac or just grep. 1232545270 M * pmjdebruijn can grep split? 1232545350 M * zbyniu pmjdebruijn: grep "VxID: 0" /proc/self/status 1232545379 M * arekm will give false result if non-vserver kernel 1232545482 M * daniel_hozac [^0] would work. 1232545998 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: brb 1232546079 M * Bertl please note thatn VxID is not necessarily present in /proc/self/status 1232546106 M * pmjdebruijn when is it not? 1232546218 M * pmjdebruijn is there something is _can_ rely on? 1232546218 M * Bertl when VXF_HIDE_VINFO is set 1232546222 M * pmjdebruijn oh 1232546235 M * pmjdebruijn well, we're not setting that 1232546255 M * pmjdebruijn I mean that obvious... detecting a vserver and having that parameter set, is directly contradictory to each other... 1232546353 M * Bertl if you _know_ you have a Linux-VServer kernel, invoking the Linux-VServer syscall switch will give ENOSYS .. checking for CAP_CONTEXT would be a good idea too 1232547807 M * swen @daniel_hozac: thats a shame. I came across debians *-xen-vserver kernel and I liked it alot. Only drawback is it uses an old vserver patch which doesnt support loopback device inside vserver 1232547833 M * pmjdebruijn swen: you mean the latest stable patch? :p 1232547844 M * Bertl swen: so, contact the debian developers and ask them to update 1232547857 M * swen lol 1232547869 M * swen stable patches seems a bit outdated :D 1232547885 M * Bertl debian is a bit outdated too :) 1232547929 M * swen yeah I know .... that is why I dont use it....I've just taken theirs kernel :) 1232547938 M * swen their 1232548014 M * swen I've also try to take offical xen kernel and update it with vanilla kernel patches - that didn't work too :( 1232548030 M * Bertl what's the problem there? 1232548067 M * swen patches didn't apply properly. I guess xen kernel is to different to vanilla kernel 1232548101 M * Bertl are we talking about dom0 or domU here? 1232548107 M * swen domU of course 1232548133 M * Bertl that should no be much different to mainline, should it? 1232548173 M * swen well xen support in mainline kernel is not as stable as Xens 1232548196 M * swen but I guess its the way to go 1232548221 M * Bertl unfortunately, but the Xen domU should be just another architecture, so not much changes there in Linux-VServer 1232548259 M * Bertl putting that aside, with hardware virtualization support, you do not even need a modified kernel for domU 1232548289 M * swen that is true - but you get a performance slowdown 1232548318 M * daniel_hozac people still willingly use Xen? 1232548326 M * Bertl obviously 1232548329 M * swen BTW: did you know that not all Core2 CPUs support VT? 1232548352 M * swen Xen offers some things that vserver does not 1232548354 M * Bertl yep, but all Core2 DUO/QUAD do :) 1232548360 M * swen no they dont 1232548369 M * daniel_hozac i wasn't referring to Linux-VServer. 1232548377 M * daniel_hozac i was referring to kvm. 1232548378 M * Bertl yep, using kvm here 1232548396 M * swen I think that all series that start with Even number do.... 1232548400 M * Bertl (most of the Linux-VServer kernel development is done in kvm nowadays) 1232548401 M * swen ie 8800 1232548406 M * swen oh 1232548423 M * swen haven't looked into kvm in a while 1232548637 M * swen http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/desktop/processor/processors/core2duo/feature/index.htm 1232548650 M * swen see that not all have VT supoprt 1232548727 M * swen I know becouse i fooled myself into buying a batch C2D servers and then find this out 1232548779 M * Bertl interesting ... 1232548827 M * pmjdebruijn swen: don't all Xeon's have VT? 1232548857 M * swen Xeons do 1232548877 M * swen but not all Core2 CPUs are Xeons 1232548903 M * swen and not all Xeons are Core2 for that matter 1232548961 M * Bertl but at least they are all 64 bit capable :) 1232548986 M * swen Core2 or Xeons? 1232548995 M * Bertl Core2 D?Q 1232549027 M * swen at least I hope so :D 1232549114 M * Bertl but yes, intel seems to have a funny mix of features in their broad palette 1232549157 M * swen true 1232549168 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl, have fun! 1232549174 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1232549408 M * pmjdebruijn it's pretty hard to find server without Xeon's these days 1232549551 M * swen try SuperMicro ;) 1232549603 A * arekm loves supermicro KVM feature 1232549836 Q * cga Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6 1232550426 Q * sunkencity Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232550618 J * sunkencity ~joel@c-4f662e7b-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1232552023 Q * kaner synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1232552023 Q * tam synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1232552065 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1232552100 J * kaner ~kaner@zzz.strace.org 1232552253 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1232553078 J * jsullivan ~jsullivan@cpe-74-75-231-235.maine.res.rr.com 1232553130 J * sunkencity_ ~joel@c-4f666637-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1232553147 M * jsullivan Hello, all. 1232553164 M * jsullivan We've been having splendid success with vserver on CentOS - couldn't be happier . . 1232553186 M * jsullivan but, I've been googling my head off about using vserver and ubuntu hardy LTS. 1232553206 M * jsullivan Am I missing something, being stupid and ignorant, or is it not very straughtforward? 1232553213 M * jsullivan straightforward? 1232553227 M * jsullivan Although distraught might be a better word :) 1232553260 M * daniel_hozac you'll want to build everything yourself. 1232553280 M * jsullivan I was ready to do that and then noticed there seems to be a kernel mismatch. 1232553289 M * jsullivan Is there a vserver patch for the current ubuntu kernel? 1232553333 M * jsullivan Plus I keep reading caveats that not everything works on hardy - like vserver start! 1232553369 M * jsullivan Thought I had better ask the experts before dropping days of beating my head against the wall! 1232553413 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.nonfood.de 1232553416 M * daniel_hozac you want to use a vanilla kernel. 1232553419 M * TheSeer heya :) 1232553449 M * daniel_hozac hello 1232553455 M * jsullivan I see 2.6.22.19 on the vserver download page but 2.6.24-23 on my Ubuntu. 1232553459 M * jsullivan Is that going to be a problem? 1232553469 M * daniel_hozac no. 1232553477 M * jsullivan OK - I'll give it a try. 1232553484 M * jsullivan Thanks and thanks for a great product. 1232553485 M * sid3windr (no, if you downgrade your kernel) 1232553488 Q * sunkencity Read error: Connection reset by peer 1232553488 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1232553499 M * jsullivan Oops! 1232553505 M * TheSeer is there a way to pretend to have a certain kernel version running for a vserver? 1232553514 M * sid3windr pretend? why? 1232553520 M * sid3windr some weird app requiring a specific version? 1232553521 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: sure, set /etc/vservers//uts/release 1232553521 M * TheSeer i have setup a build vserver 1232553530 M * TheSeer sid3windr: yep 1232553532 M * sid3windr hehe 1232553533 M * sid3windr funky 1232553539 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: or use vuname to do it temporarily. 1232553546 M * ktwilight_ jsullivan, you could grab the experimental releases 1232553556 M * jsullivan This is going to be production . . 1232553556 M * ktwilight_ jsullivan, there's even 2.6.28 1232553568 M * jsullivan I've heard the experimental release are , well, experimental :) 1232553600 M * ktwilight_ it's pretty stable IMHO 1232553608 M * ktwilight_ unlike *cough*ubuntu*cough* 1232553616 M * ktwilight_ :) 1232553635 M * jsullivan There is a lot I like about ubuntu but they do seem sloppy sometimes. 1232553662 M * jsullivan I'm a bit confused between daniel and sid3windr . . . 1232553678 M * jsullivan is it OK to use the current patch on 2.6.24 or do I need to downgrade? 1232553700 M * daniel_hozac you obviously need to use 2.6.22.19. 1232553718 M * daniel_hozac you always want to use the version designated in the patch. that's why it's there. 1232553729 M * jsullivan OK - that's what I thought. 1232553739 M * jsullivan I misunderstood your earlier comment - thanks. 1232553816 M * jsullivan If I may pester you with one last question . . . 1232553837 M * jsullivan I would normally assume it would be best to run hardy guests on hardy hosts . . . 1232553841 Q * sunkencity_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232553847 M * jsullivan but given the grief I'm reading on google . . . 1232553858 M * jsullivan would it be preferable to run hardy guests on centos? 1232553876 M * jsullivan I'm already backleveling the kernel in ubuntu if I choose Hardy. 1232553915 J * sunkencity ~joel@c-4f66489b-74736162.cust.telenor.se 1232554025 M * daniel_hozac the host's distribution doesn't matter in any shape or form to the guest. 1232554041 M * daniel_hozac you can run whatever on whatever. 1232554065 M * jsullivan It seems nicely separated - my only concern was kernel versioning (in case something in the distro was expecting a specific kernel) . . 1232554074 M * jsullivan but that's already blown with hardy. 1232554091 M * jsullivan I may give that a run instead. 1232554095 M * jsullivan Thanks again. 1232554131 A * TheSeer loves vserver 1232554142 M * TheSeer this release thing is f*cking kewl ;) 1232554160 J * geb ~geb@55.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1232554425 J * docelic_ ~docelic@78.134.198.124 1232554833 Q * docelic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232554899 Q * jsullivan Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1232554986 Q * sunkencity Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232555151 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1232555578 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232555638 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1232555707 Q * swen Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1232556219 J * slaw ~slaw@194.51.71.190 1232556237 M * slaw hi 1232556322 M * slaw I've a problem mounting nfs shares on a guest... I want to mount it read only but when I set it in fstab.remote , it is mounted in rw ... 1232556391 M * slaw If I set nfs shares in vserver's /etc/fstab then a mount -a it is mounted in ro ... but doesn't work after vserver's restart .. 1232556408 M * slaw anyone have an idea about this ? 1232556468 J * sunkencity ~joel@h121n2c1o1036.bredband.skanova.com 1232556770 M * geb are you sure it is properly unmouted when you restart ? 1232557045 M * slaw It seems to, no errors messages refering to umount 1232557116 M * geb did you try to unmount it manualy before restarting (nfs don't like broken connexions) 1232557337 M * slaw test done ... but same thing, after vserver's restart it's mounted in rw not ro ... 1232557502 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1232557579 M * geb did you consider mount on the host and bind it to the vserver ? 1232558026 M * slaw yes, but it don't want to do it because I think it's better to manage share by vserver 1232558188 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1232558307 M * geb isn't the nfs client kernel based ? 1232558489 M * slaw hum... nfs support is a module on the host ...if that's the question .. 1232558503 M * geb if it is it should be better to make mounts on the host or to use a userland solution (fuse ?) 1232558783 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:212:f0ff:fe0f:6f86 1232558930 M * slaw i'll try googling a little more and i'll do that if I don't find any solution .. 1232558943 M * slaw thanks for the help :) 1232558971 M * geb you have that 1232558973 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_handle_NFS_mounts_within_in_a_guest.3F 1232559044 M * daniel_hozac slaw: what utils? 1232559107 M * slaw already tried the 2nd and 3rd way , 2nd mounts shares in rw and with the 3rd I got "permission denied" .. 1232559154 M * slaw daniel_hozac, the version of util-vserver ? 1232559162 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1232559166 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1232559187 M * slaw util-vserver: 0.30.212 1232559194 M * daniel_hozac upgrade. 1232559209 M * slaw wow ... 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