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1230856529 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1230856819 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230857276 P * click [IRSSI]
1230858026 J * click click@ti511110a080-0278.bb.online.no
1230863501 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1230864280 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1230866774 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo888227.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
1230873459 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de
1230873676 J * padde_ ~padde@patrick-nagel.net
1230873735 Q * mcp resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1230873735 Q * padde resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1230873735 Q * micah resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1230873735 Q * AndrewLee resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1230873735 N * emcepe mcp
1230873737 N * padde_ padde
1230873796 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1230873796 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1230874183 J * micah_ ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1230874237 Q * micah Read error: Connection reset by peer
1230874986 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-154-193.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net
1230877402 Q * takeru Quit: takeru
1230878538 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-151-1-72-104.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr
1230878548 M * geb hi
1230879577 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo888227.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
1230879641 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no
1230879741 M * Bertl hey geb! how's going?
1230879779 M * geb fine and you :) ?
1230880109 M * Bertl a little tired .. so I'll be off to bed soon, but otherwise fine
1230880280 P * friendly 
1230880354 J * doener ~doener@i577B9F6A.versanet.de
1230880459 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230883642 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1230883649 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1230883894 Q * welldone Quit: You are the next !
1230885066 J * mtg ~mtg@dialbs-088-079-143-204.static.arcor-ip.net
1230887049 M * Wonka have fun, Bertl_zZ...
1230891566 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.82.206
1230893448 J * blub ~richi@85-126-150-198.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1230893498 M * blub hello, i got the follow error: /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 919: pushd: /etc/vservers/proxy/vdir: file or dir not found - its mounted with mount --bind and there is a vdir file
1230893669 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1230894809 M * geb blub, is the vdir file a link ?
1230894816 M * geb earth% ls -l /etc/vservers/proxy/vdir
1230894816 M * geb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 déc  7 22:08 /etc/vservers/proxy/vdir -> /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/proxy
1230894866 M * geb so => /var/lib/vservers/proxy (as /etc/vservers/.default point to /var/lib/vservers)
1230894984 M * blub i see my problem... it is a hard link and i need to move the /etc/vservers to a nother partition. so i need to copy the hard links(would be on the same partition)
1230895007 M * geb why don't you a symbolic link ?
1230895012 M * geb +use
1230895047 M * blub would be an option, but why does vserver don'T use symbolic links and only hard links?
1230895075 M * geb hum
1230895092 M * geb util-vserver use symlink
1230895101 M * geb for all configurations dirs files etc
1230895130 M * geb it only use hardlinks for cow
1230895152 M * geb aka unification
1230895198 M * blub and why i can't copy it with cp -a?
1230895204 M * blub should i use, dump? cpio?
1230895217 M * geb the links ?
1230895234 M * geb use rm -f vdir; ln -s /var/lib/vserver/foobar vdir
1230895304 M * geb what do you want copy ?
1230895475 M * blub i have copy all again with the .defaults dir and so one and now it works..
1230895500 M * blub used -a -p -d <- -a should do -p and -d but..hmm strange, maybe i have forgotte nsomething but now it works...
1230895503 M * blub thx for ur help...
1230895579 M * geb you can also use that (never used it)
1230895582 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems#Building_guests_using_the_clone_build_method
1230895592 M * geb or your's own scripts
1230895593 M * geb linke
1230895594 M * blub i will try it :)
1230895595 M * geb like
1230895604 M * geb http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12679
1230895916 M * blub :)
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1230898664 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-004.ethz.ch
1230899104 Q * grobie Quit: Coyote finally caught me
1230900355 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
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1230902434 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1230902439 M * Bertl morning folks!
1230902484 M * pmenier_off morning Bertl
1230902488 N * pmenier_off pmenier
1230902824 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.82.206
1230903043 Q * cga 
1230903106 Q * blub Read error: No route to host
1230903453 Q * TimLyth Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230904579 M * nox morning Bertl 
1230904629 M * nox is there any native lvm guest support planned for future utils?
1230904807 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1230906424 M * mnemoc nox: what would you expect from "native lvm guest support" ?
1230909234 Q * arekm Remote host closed the connection
1230909610 M * nox mnemoc: at least an option to build and start them without "scripthacks"
1230909693 M * nox nice would be the option to have a vserver partition for "normal" guests and an other vserver_lvm volume for lvmguests
1230910051 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo888227.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
1230910143 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.82.206
1230910257 J * TimLyth ~tux@202.134.227.227
1230910389 M * mnemoc nox: i think that is out of scope... but poke daniel_hozac ... he is the master of the tools
1230910468 M * Bertl nox: build and start? you mean at guest creation time?
1230910634 M * click funky
1230910667 M * click possibly confirmed an issue with debians 'repack' of 2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-686 kernel-image package :)
1230910682 M * click (source doesn't have the patches applied lol)
1230910731 M * click and hi bertl, ltns
1230910738 M * Bertl well, outdated anyways .. but IIRC, the debian source packages have a patch dir, and do not apply the patches, but I might be wrong, I'm no debian guy
1230910740 M * click (my own fault, haven't been here)
1230910753 M * Bertl LTNS indeed >)
1230910796 M * click yeah, i think i need to look into the patch-sets that are in the tree, just odd that it's not added, when the image refers to it :)
1230910894 M * nox Bertl: yes
1230910953 J * complexmind ~mark@cpc2-brig1-0-0-cust802.brig.cable.ntl.com
1230911008 M * Bertl nox: well, for various reasons you try to avoid lvm partitions per guest, so it is more a corner case, IMHO
1230911359 M * Bertl but should be trivial if you know your guest lvm sizes, in a script
1230911545 M * nox what reasons beside of loosing the hashify option?
1230911623 M * mnemoc how is cow these days?
1230911672 M * nox yes shouldn?t be too hard but a bit hacky, so i just tried to figure out if it is possibly in the pipe already :) 
1230912280 M * Bertl mnemoc: preefectly fine as far as we can tell :)
1230912329 M * mnemoc Bertl: cool :) ... i'm just moving to 2.3 and I still have tons of sexy enhancements to experiment with :)
1230912333 M * Bertl nox: losing unification also means no cache sharing and thus a lot more memory usage
1230912351 M * Bertl nox: also you lose some flexibility in guest resizing (obviously)
1230912372 M * Bertl mnemoc: lol
1230912502 M * nox Bertl: sure but you get a per guest quota
1230912516 M * daniel_hozac nox: that's what disk limits are for...
1230912539 M * Bertl well, maybe he means user/group quota
1230912586 M * mnemoc hdv1 doesn't give the same?
1230912668 M * nox daniel_hozac: yes perhaps thats the easier way
1230912731 M * Bertl mnemoc: the shared quota hash stuff was abandoned due to lack of interest
1230913012 J * dna ~dna@p54BCF9BB.dip.t-dialin.net
1230913156 M * jrdnyquist daniel_hozac, any update on your mirror or any possible way I could snag the rpms somewhere else?
1230913225 M * daniel_hozac not yet.
1230913259 M * Bertl you could upload them to my server if that helps?
1230913329 M * daniel_hozac i don't have access to the files.
1230914350 M * complexmind daniel_hozac: I think I have a copy of the repo from just before xmas if that helps
1230914380 M * complexmind unless of course you're talking about some other rpms
1230914471 M * daniel_hozac well, i don't think the data is gone.
1230914493 M * complexmind http://mirror.fubra.com/rpm.hozac.com/
1230914500 M * daniel_hozac i just have to replace the PSU.
1230914527 M * Bertl jrdnyquist: got the mirror url?
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1230915925 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1230916456 J * mtg ~mtg@dialbs-088-079-143-204.static.arcor-ip.net
1230916763 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1230917240 J * darrob2 ~darrob@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1230917546 Q * darrob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1230918495 J * larsivi ~larsivi@9.80-202-30.nextgentel.com
1230918619 M * jrdnyquist yeah
1230918621 M * jrdnyquist thx
1230918742 M * sunkencity here's a little bash completion script I use on gentoo
1230918744 M * sunkencity http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12681
1230918856 M * mnemoc why using [[ ?
1230918978 M * sunkencity dunno, just brute hacked some other scripts to get it working
1230918990 M * sunkencity don't know the syntax for bash really
1230919014 M * sunkencity i prefer to write scripts in ruby
1230919120 M * mnemoc [[ is good only for pattern matching afaik
1230919328 J * cga_ ~weechat@94.36.127.183
1230919443 Q * cga Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230920641 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature
1230920664 M * sunkencity looking it up now.. supposedly one does not even need to have [ or [[ when one has an if
1230920674 M * daniel_hozac yes you do.
1230920736 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Bash_Completion is slightly more complete.
1230920773 Q * takeru Quit: takeru
1230920797 M * sunkencity i wrote the other script because i couldn't get the ones i found on the web to work
1230920805 M * sunkencity maybe i haven't tried that one
1230920817 M * sunkencity there was some error in the one i downloaded from some wiki
1230921202 M * sunkencity what is have_
1230921204 M * sunkencity ?
1230921212 M * sunkencity some debian command?
1230921260 M * daniel_hozac i would assume it comes from bash-completion.
1230921405 M * sunkencity ok, doesn't work on gentoo
1230921423 M * sunkencity thinking of running debian for the hosts anyway
1230923092 J * larsivi_ ~larsivi@9.80-202-30.nextgentel.com
1230923117 M * geb nox, http://listes.univ-reims.fr/sympa/info/vs-tools provide an integration of lvm
1230923248 N * micah_ micah
1230923554 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230924858 M * sunkencity hm, there's bash completion util-vserver in gentoo these days it seems. perhaps time to update world :) lol
1230924872 M * Bertl :)
1230925494 N * cga_ cga
1230927984 J * Supaplex ~supaplex@166.70.62.193
1230928039 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667::
1230928214 M * Supaplex is the /vserver/ directory at http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Unification my /var/lib/vserver under Debian? util-vserver is stock lenny on 0.30.216~r2772-4 2.6.26-1-vserver-686 kernel
1230928391 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net
1230928935 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
1230929011 M * Supaplex oh sweet. vserver <..> build -m clone   \o/
1230929196 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1230929219 Q * complexmind Quit: complexmind
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1230930124 Q * maddoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230930582 M * Supaplex http://picpaste.com/clone_fails.PNG hummm it no <3 me
1230931118 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1230931194 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1230931420 M * Supaplex lucky for me, I created a vmware snapshot before testing it all. :)
1230931472 M * cga hi all, i've just created 5 vserver (all debian lenny guests on a debian lenny host) and when i restart the guests i get quite a few errors about ifdown /etc/network/run/ifstate: No such file or directory plus some others like cannot deactivate swap or umount filesystems because it says it needs to be root. but it is indeed.
1230931515 M * cga any idea? faq? help? please thanks
1230931548 M * cga oh by the way. should the /etc/network/interfaces be empty on the guests?
1230931548 M * daniel_hozac cga: what version of util-vserver?
1230931555 M * cga daniel_hozac: checking
1230931608 M * cga daniel_hozac: ii  util-vserver                           0.30.216~r2772-4
1230931613 M * cga this on the host
1230931639 M * daniel_hozac Supaplex: try rsync? a recent snapshot should fix the problem though.
1230931714 M * Supaplex okay. I was actually trying that now =)
1230931783 M * PowerKe cga: I usually get similar errors on gentoo guests if I update the bootscripts in the guests, re-running initpost scripts fixes that
1230931784 M * Supaplex rsync appears to work
1230931796 M * PowerKe /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/lenny/initpost /etc/vservers/<guest> /usr/lib/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars
1230931811 M * cga PowerKe: ok i'll try that thanks
1230931825 M * cga is that only command?
1230931840 M * PowerKe that's all I do on gentoo (with lenny replaced by gentoo)
1230931859 M * cga thanks i'll do it right now
1230931864 M * cga i'll let you know
1230931942 M * cga PowerKe: mmm i get a lot of suxec errors. should i stop the guests before?
1230932025 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1230932026 M * PowerKe cga: basically it strips some of the boot scripts in the guest to remove things like swap and network handling because the host and vserver handles that
1230932033 M * PowerKe Shouldn't really matter if it's running or not
1230932118 M * PowerKe On gentoo, some errors are usually reported, but don't seem to cause issues, not sure how it reacts for lenny though
1230932166 M * cga darn
1230932171 M * cga they won't start anymore
1230932197 M * daniel_hozac you should have upgraded to -6 first :-)
1230932211 M * cga on that util-vserver i was getting this error: 'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting... so i want to  start them but they won't
1230932228 M * cga daniel_hozac: huh?
1230932238 M * PowerKe cga: your util-vservers version
1230932239 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.216~r2772-4 is known to be broken.
1230932244 M * cga damn
1230932255 M * cga this is what lenny has in atm :'(
1230932260 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1230932270 M * daniel_hozac -6 isn't migrating until ia64 is fixed.
1230932291 M * cga so you mean that i need to redo *everything* with -6?
1230932297 M * Supaplex daniel_hozac: is there a suggested older, or newer version? I could roll a new .deb with uupdate etc.
1230932323 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.215 should work in general, but the most recent snapshot is always a good candidate.
1230932337 A * cga 's plan to "hack" with vserver is getting harder
1230932395 M * daniel_hozac building everything from source is a safe bet.
1230932399 M * Supaplex http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/?C=M;O=D only has 0.30.210
1230932406 M * cga and it all started because wordpress 2.7 won't work with etch somehow..... darn
1230932458 M * cga daniel_hozac: well true but while i could do that here on the test server i prefer not to have any "please compile and crack" on the real server
1230932491 M * daniel_hozac huh?
1230932509 M * cga i don't want to have tools in there. the lesser the better
1230932522 M * daniel_hozac Supaplex: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/ or http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/utils/util-vserver/
1230932526 A * cga brb
1230932529 M * daniel_hozac cga: so build a package.
1230932542 M * cga well this could be the good time to learn about it
1230932790 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-102-132.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
1230932888 M * Bertl cga: and don't forget to complain to the debian folks, otherwise that broken version will be kept forever :)
1230932941 M * cga re
1230932945 M * cga Bertl: true
1230932952 M * daniel_hozac micah's aware of it.
1230932973 M * cga good
1230933246 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@225.70-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1230933308 J * docelic__ ~docelic@78.134.199.69
1230933396 M * Supaplex should I raise a debian bug for the clone issue?
1230933402 A * Supaplex 'd be happy to
1230933456 M * daniel_hozac it happens with -6?
1230933479 M * Supaplex I haven't tested -6 only -4
1230933488 M * daniel_hozac well, -4 is known to be broken, so...
1230933506 A * Supaplex checks sid for -6
1230933518 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230933540 M * Supaplex ahh sid has -6 so I can braindead simple backport it.
1230933714 Q * docelic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1230933754 Q * geb Quit: Quitte
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1230934222 J * bibabu bibabu@vserv2.de
1230934777 M * Supaplex yay. -m clone works just fine here in -6
1230934782 M * Supaplex daniel_hozac: thank you =)
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1230935619 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.62.52
1230937443 Q * sunkencity Quit: sunkencity
1230937559 J * sunkencity ~joel@h121n2c1o1036.bredband.skanova.com
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1230939631 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch