1230336250 M * Bertl_oO guest in Linux-VServer doe not use a virtual network stack, they use IP isolation
1230336268 M * Bertl_oO so, there are _no_ guest interfaces, just guest IPs
1230336299 M * Bertl_oO nevertheless, you can assign private IPs to the guests and/or share the host IP with guests
1230336397 M * Bertl_oO (with private IPs, you use S/DNAT to map them to the host IP)
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1230336649 M * TimLyth Ok.
1230337100 M * TimLyth In the Networking vserver guests page, the examples use a dummy interface.  Could I instead use a physical ETH interface instead?
1230337310 M * Bertl_oO sure, the dummy is just to make those folks happy who are used to virtual network stacks like Xen uses
1230337343 M * TimLyth Ah, ok.
1230337419 M * Bertl_oO when it would actually use the dummy interface, no packets would arrive or leave :)
1230337498 M * TimLyth For the internal side, this makes life easier, as I'd presume that I wouldn't need the SNAT/DNAT iptables rules (guest IPs would be on the same subnet range as host)
1230337536 M * TimLyth The dummy interfaces are just bitbuckets?
1230337548 M * Bertl_oO yep
1230337650 M * TimLyth For my external interface, I'll be using pppoe.  This should be run on the host by my reckoning, and therefore I only need IPtables rules to forward the packets of the internal side to give external access to the guests.
1230337696 M * Bertl_oO yep, a simple SNAT (or masq) rule should do
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1230338115 M * TimLyth Cool.
1230338367 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests
1230338442 M * TimLyth geb: Already looking at that page.
1230340401 M * TimLyth My server system will be hosting a number of domains, each with web and email access, would it be better to divide the vservers up based on the domain they'll be holding or by server daemon?
1230340487 M * TimLyth If I was going to use Xen instead of linux-vserver, it's a no-brainer due to the larger footprint that Xen has compared to linux-vserver.
1230340566 M * Bertl_oO whatever suits you better from the administrative PoV
1230340586 M * TimLyth :)
1230340591 M * Bertl_oO if you use unification, the memory (and disk) footprint for a guest is minimal
1230340614 M * Bertl_oO and guests can be as light as a single process
1230340625 M * TimLyth That'd be nice. :D
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1230340814 M * Bertl_oO wb takeru!
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1230341861 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now .. have a good night everyone!
1230341869 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1230343744 M * TimLyth Should I run pppoe within the host or a guest?
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1230346808 M * daniel_hozac TimLyth: networking stuff belongs on the host.
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1230370827 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1230370836 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1230372209 M * Bertl k, off for now ... bbl
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