1228177390 M * jsullivan Argh!
1228177411 M * jsullivan Apparently this is a known problem for the poweredge sc420 server we're using.
1228177427 M * jsullivan the intel driver fails.
1228177429 M * jsullivan vesa works.
1228177438 M * jsullivan vesa in the guest caused a hard reboot.
1228177448 M * Bertl looks like yyou didn't try on the host before :)
1228177458 M * jsullivan But now with /proc/bus/ unhidden it works.
1228177495 M * jsullivan No, I suppose I'm still a bit stuck in other virtualization models where I don't use the host for anything . . 
1228177503 M * jsullivan but a base for the guests.
1228177543 M * jsullivan OK - now onto exploring NX and whether we still need to open these possible security holes.
1228177545 M * jsullivan Thanks.
1228177621 M * Bertl np
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1228218027 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1228218031 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1228226598 M * Guy- (sorry about the noise)
1228227290 J * kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1228227291 M * kwowt damn
1228227362 M * kwowt i need to patch my kernel with vserver quota patch...is there a good howto i could use, i cant find anything really usefull on net, i dont wanna screw up cuz its an operating system...also i cant find the Herbert Pötzl's Quota Howto as mentioned in some faq
1228227495 M * daniel_hozac for shared quota?
1228227623 M * kwowt yes
1228227658 M * daniel_hozac so you're on 2.4-vs1.2?
1228227740 M * kwowt kernel?
1228227751 M * kwowt 2.6.22-vs2.2.0.6-gentoo
1228227762 M * daniel_hozac there's no shared quota support for 2.6 kernels.
1228227891 M * kwowt so i cannot use it with 2.6
1228227893 M * kwowt :|
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1228229680 M * bliz42 good morning
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1228229954 Q * speedy 
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1228234194 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1228235467 J * dreamind ~dreamind@p57B1BC8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1228235469 M * dreamind Hi folks :)
1228235510 M * dreamind can anybody ask me wether a version of util-vserver new enough to work with the newest linux-vserver experimental release will reach debian unstable soon?
1228235519 M * dreamind err
1228235531 M * dreamind I meant can anybody *tell* me :D
1228235641 J * snooze_ ~o@1-1-4-40a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se
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1228235952 M * pmenier dreamind: i'm actually running 2.6.27.7 with vs2.3.0.36.1 on a debian i686
1228235972 M * dreamind I'm running the same, but earlier I had problems with the stock debian util-vserver
1228235981 M * dreamind so I build the newest version of my own
1228236004 M * pmenier i use util-vserver from daniel_hozac
1228236011 M * dreamind does he have a .deb?
1228236034 M * dreamind or did you do the evil job (tm) and use make install? ;)
1228236091 M * pmenier i don't have a .deb... i do the evil job :)
1228236378 M * ard dreamind:  r2772-5 eventually worked
1228236405 M * ard uploaded saterday/sunday :-)
1228236526 M * dreamind oh ok
1228236559 M * dreamind and whats the big difference? a backport of the somehow changed interface?
1228236584 M * dreamind and will this version reach lenny?
1228236592 M * ard dunno...
1228236601 M * ard I installed it, and it worked :-)
1228236609 M * dreamind ah ok :D
1228236614 M * dreamind thats of course good ;)
1228236618 M * ard it probably means it has some patches added
1228236628 A * ard looks at the changelog...
1228236693 M * ard   * Added debian/patches/80supportapiandcaps.dpatch to update the 
1228236693 M * ard     API to fix the 2.6.27 regression (Closes: #505521) and solves 
1228236693 M * ard     the capability inversion issue. (Closes: #506949)
1228236708 M * dreamind ard: yes, I also just read :-D
1228236739 M * ard but the things you wanted are probably only available in the version daniel_hozac mentioned
1228236748 M * dreamind and added some translations ;) - thats often happening in debian... 
1228236760 M * dreamind well, hm...
1228236773 J * mtg ~mtg@dialbs-088-079-143-204.static.arcor-ip.net
1228236787 M * kwowt daniel_hozac: so there's no way quota will work with 2.6kernel
1228236813 M * daniel_hozac kwowt: shared quota won't work, but if each guest has its own block device, it's cool.
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1228236931 M * kwowt :/
1228236934 J * geb ~geb@112.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net
1228236996 M * geb hi
1228237050 M * kwowt daniel_hozac: whats your oppinion on openvz?
1228237133 M * daniel_hozac i don't have one.
1228237177 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
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1228237570 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: hm, so its not possible to use one blockdevice for all vservers and merge them (hardlinks) and use quota accordingly?
1228237590 M * dreamind because thats what I planned for reorganization of my server :)
1228237616 M * daniel_hozac no, user/group quotas on a shared filesystem are not currently implemented.
1228237650 M * daniel_hozac mostly because nobody was willing to test/help fund it.
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1228238067 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: hm, but xfs quota should work?
1228238075 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: because xfs implements quota per directory
1228238091 M * dreamind ok - but this would break hardlinks, because xfs in this way doesn't allow hardlinks :D
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1228240217 M * meebey is vserver limiting SHM (shared memory) by default somehow?
1228240229 M * meebey postgresql doesn't start inside the guest, but outside (chroot)
1228240254 M * meebey whining about unable to get shared memory
1228240411 J * independence ~independe@titan.blinkenshell.org
1228240422 M * micah by default, no
1228240477 M * meebey odd, I could have sworn it worked fine on 2.6.18 (from etch) but doesnt anymore with 2.6.26 (from bpo)
1228240498 M * meebey FATAL:  could not create shared memory segment: Invalid argument
1228240499 M * meebey DETAIL:  Failed system call was shmget(key=5432001, size=135266304, 03600).
1228240511 M * meebey host has 268MB shared memory available
1228240521 N * znyto_ znyto
1228240521 M * meebey according to kernel.shmmax
1228240541 M * meebey pgsql tries to use 135MB of that
1228240618 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1228240715 Q * independence Remote host closed the connection
1228240737 M * meebey hm maybe I should upgrade util-vserver from etch to bpo...
1228240975 M * meebey odd it starts when using lower numbers...
1228240976 J * independence independen@titan.blinkenshell.org
1228241007 M * meebey so either vserver uses some of the SHM, doesn't allow full SHM, or postgresl needs more SHM when running inside, strange...
1228241147 Q * mnemoc Read error: Connection reset by peer
1228241924 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1228242051 M * dreamind hm, can somebody tell me wether grsecurity + vserver experimental has been done?
1228242167 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.88.11
1228242225 M * dreamind harry: can you update your vserver+grsecurity patch from 2.6.26.7 to 2.6.27.7, because grsecurity is already availible for 2.6.27.7 :)
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1228243172 M * ard meebey : you must configure shmem settings *per* vserver
1228243232 M * ard echo 135266304 > /etc/vservers/<name>/sysctl/something/shmmemmax
1228243239 M * ard something like that
1228243250 M * ard see http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html  and look for sysctl
1228243297 M * ard and use the settings from /etc/sysctl.conf
1228243299 M * daniel_hozac meebey: you get a new IPC namespace when you start a guest, and that is unconfigured.
1228243319 M * daniel_hozac meebey: i.e. it has the default of 32 MiB or whatever.
1228243440 M * meebey aaahh
1228243474 M * meebey daniel_hozac: thats interesting... so how can I increase it?
1228243495 M * meebey using sysctl inside the guest is probably not the right way :)
1228243501 M * daniel_hozac ard just told you.
1228243509 M * meebey ups, overlooked that one
1228243538 M * meebey ard, daniel_hozac: thank you very much, vserver was better than I thought :-P
1228243577 M * daniel_hozac that's a mainline feature.
1228243615 M * meebey which wasnt in 2.6.18 :-P
1228243638 M * daniel_hozac nope, merged in 2.6.19.
1228243642 M * meebey daniel_hozac: will vserver increase the host shm if the guest shm exceeds that one?
1228243647 M * daniel_hozac no.
1228243653 M * daniel_hozac they are completely disjoint sets.
1228243671 M * meebey ah ic, shm between vservers and host has nothing in common?
1228243676 M * daniel_hozac no.
1228243709 M * meebey hm that contradicts my first question
1228243756 M * daniel_hozac what?
1228243778 M * meebey either the shm segment is exclusive for the vserver, or it uses the host one
1228243781 M * meebey which is now the case?
1228243807 M * daniel_hozac the IPC namespaces have absolutely nothing to do with eachother.
1228243822 M * daniel_hozac you cannot reference objects in one from the other.
1228243839 M * daniel_hozac and all limits are set on a per-namespace basis.
1228243847 M * meebey ok ok, then your "no" to my "has nothing in common" question was missunderstood by me :)
1228243867 A * meebey hates human language, its unlogic
1228243931 M * meebey allright so its IPC namespaces, nice nice
1228244215 M * simontwo meebey, illogic?
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1228244523 M * meebey yeah that too
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1228245655 M * harry dreamind: i'll try to do that soon... maybe even tomorrow L:)
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1228246916 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now .... need to get up early tomorrow
1228246921 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1228247219 M * dreamind harry: that would be nice :)
1228247227 M * dreamind harry: if you need any help, just tell me :)
1228247304 M * fb_ harry :)
1228247311 M * fb_ harry: nice to see you :)
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1228248612 M * harry heyhey
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