1228003703 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch
1228004350 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
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1228014592 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-72-25.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net
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1228035905 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.88.11
1228036553 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23E28A.dip.t-dialin.net
1228038145 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
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1228043470 J * Riyad ~Hasan@202.4.104.10
1228043487 M * Riyad hi every one
1228043493 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.167.194.226
1228043525 M * Riyad hi yank
1228043559 M * Riyad hi philip
1228043586 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26
1228043678 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1228043693 M * Bertl hi Riyad! :)
1228043700 M * Riyad fine
1228043783 M * Riyad are you fine Mr Bertl
1228043801 M * Riyad are you fine Mr Bertl
1228043808 M * Bertl yep, are you? 
1228043828 M * Riyad i am also fine
1228043853 M * Bertl great! so what brings you here? loneiness?
1228043928 M * Riyad i am not understand 
1228043952 M * Bertl well, is there a reason why you came here? i.e. do you have questions? issues?
1228043976 M * Riyad yes 
1228044020 M * Bertl well, then better ask :)
1228044056 M * Riyad My proxy server hit ratio is so slow i want to increase
1228044125 M * Bertl how's that Linux-VServer related?
1228044181 M * Riyad yes i user red hat linux enterprise version 5 
1228044189 M * Riyad yes i use red hat linux enterprise version 5 
1228044210 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1228044258 M * Bertl okay ... and?
1228044279 M * Riyad pls any manually document in proxy server(squid) then send my mail riyadhasan@yahoo.com
1228044335 M * Bertl http://www.squid-cache.org/
1228044392 M * Riyad how to increase my hit ratio in linux server
1228044449 M * Riyad how to increase my hit ratio in linux server
1228044460 M * SpComb have your clients only request the same URL every time
1228044467 M * SpComb you'll get a 100% hit rate that way
1228044513 M * Riyad yes my clint request same url
1228044530 M * Bertl well, 100% is the upper limit :)
1228044544 M * Riyad sometimes show nagetive-hit
1228044571 M * Bertl well, on RHEL you probably want to update squid
1228044585 M * Bertl but I'm still not seeing how that is Linux-VServer related
1228044614 M * Riyad how to update squid
1228044701 M * Riyad yes my server is linux 2.6.18-8.el5
1228044719 M * Bertl so, better look out for a squid IRC channel
1228044725 J * doener ~doener@i577B9BD5.versanet.de
1228044772 M * Riyad pls some idea RHCT Exam
1228044803 M * Bertl sorry, wrong channel ... if you have a Linux-VServer related problem, feel free to ask here
1228044848 M * Riyad I attend RHCT Exam in 14 December 2008
1228044886 M * Riyad I want to know Linux-VServer
1228044951 M * Riyad Bertl:Many many thanks for your information
1228044954 M * Bertl well, then start here: http://linux-vserver.org/Paper and work your way through the wiki here: http://linux-vserver.org/http://linux-vserver.org/
1228045033 M * Riyad Bertl i want to know about you
1228045042 M * Riyad pls 
1228045088 M * Riyad my office hour is finished
1228045134 M * Riyad pls your e-mail address
1228045387 Q * Riyad Quit: Leaving
1228046541 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1228046545 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1228047018 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch
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1228047993 J * Piet ~piet@asteria.debian.or.at
1228048040 J * ^jan ~jan@83.Red-80-33-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1228048043 M * ^jan hi all
1228048077 M * ^jan which is the best way to "move" VPS betwen psysical servers ?
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1228048440 J * dna ~dna@52-200-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1228048575 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net
1228051647 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org
1228051895 M * arekm ^jan: rsync while vps is running; stop vps; resync differences; start vps on new machine
1228052112 M * ard rsync of /etc/vservers/<vservername> 
1228052130 M * ard AndrewLee: rsync -aH of /var/lib/vservers/<vservername>
1228052153 M * ard hmmm.... /me really typed a n d :
1228052180 M * ard the H is for hardlinks, which might be needed
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1228052256 J * chI6iT41 ~chigital@tmo-100-220.customers.d1-online.com
1228052516 J * znyto ~znyto__@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1228053695 M * ^jan thanks arekm , ard, I will try in this way
1228054309 M * ard just make sure your context id's are unique across servers
1228054333 M * ard or that you fix the context id in /etc/vservers/../ after rsync
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1228057964 Q * nou Remote host closed the connection
1228058957 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1228058960 M * Bertl back now ...
1228058994 M * Bertl ^jan: you also want --numeric-ids, unless you have exactly the same uid/gid setup on both hosts
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1228062633 M * fb_ Bertl: i'd like to make /dev/snd entries to be available within some guests, what's preferred way to do this?
1228062656 M * fb_ Bertl: i thought about bind mount, but this doesn't work
1228062783 M * Bertl well, bind mounts definitely work, but it's probably easier to just 'copy' them over
1228062843 M * fb_ Bertl: i get 'permision denied' when i try to open device, hmh
1228063074 M * daniel_hozac fb_: you need dev in the options
1228063100 M * Bertl nodev is added by default (for security reasons)
1228063128 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.88.11
1228063779 M * fb_ thank you :)
1228063793 M * Bertl np
1228063842 M * fb_ now if i only could find where's the problem with this pulseaudio server...
1228063917 M * Bertl pulse audio is fun :)
1228064116 M * fb_ Bertl: i have 51 speakers connected to a home audio server. it works without issues, but now i'd like to use those speakers with my laptop
1228064158 M * fb_ Bertl: the obvious solution is to use network transport for this and not touching the cables. 
1228064190 M * fb_ but i have strange issues with this setup
1228064200 M * fb_ i hope it's not vserver-related ;)
1228064318 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3
1228064648 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-072-219-043.pools.arcor-ip.net
1228065100 M * yarihm huh? fatal: chroot("/var/run/sshd"): Operation not permitted
1228065340 M * daniel_hozac update your utils.
1228065407 M * yarihm adding the default bcaps to bcapabilities fixes the issue
1228065445 M * yarihm strange, I didn't do a kernel upgrade IIRC ... it's just debian lenny
1228065450 M * yarihm that worked before
1228065520 M * daniel_hozac not the kernel, utils.
1228065686 M * yarihm update of util-vserver not yet on my mirror ... is this a debian issue then?
1228065733 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1228065778 M * yarihm darn
1228065816 M * yarihm the bcapabilities thing does not really help. If kernel and util-vserver are out of sync, for some reason the vservers start dropping their ips here ... strange thing
1228065887 M * daniel_hozac sounds more like secondaries promotion is disabled.
1228065904 M * yarihm don't know what that is
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1228068063 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.11.218
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1228069635 M * micah yarihm: please try the utils that are in sid
1228069835 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net
1228070034 J * Slydder2 ~chuck@dslb-088-072-246-191.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1228071003 M * yarihm micah, ok ... 
1228071276 M * Bertl 'promote secondaries' is a kernel option to make a secondary a primary, when the primary IP disappears, instead of killing off all secondaries
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1228075619 M * micah yarihm: any luck?
1228075702 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@87.66.193.115
1228075936 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1228076533 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.88.11
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1228082154 M * yarihm micah, not yet tried, doing so right now
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1228082238 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-88-152-253-48.unitymediagroup.de
1228082333 M * yarihm micah, from what I can tell now, this fixes the issue
1228082874 M * yarihm micah, one of the guests just lost his IP again ... that normally indicates that something's wrong
1228083005 M * Bertl sysctl -a | grep secondaries (paste.linux-vserver.org)
1228083441 J * znyto ~znyto__@89.106.244.8
1228083712 M * yarihm ok, one second
1228083831 M * yarihm http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12639
1228083849 M * yarihm everything zero ... 
1228083865 M * Bertl so, if you have something like ifplugd running, and/or you stop a guest in the same network as another one
1228083878 M * Bertl you should expect all IPs to disappear :)
1228083887 M * yarihm aha ... very nifty feature
1228083901 M * Bertl yeah, mainline added it :)
1228083918 M * yarihm did they also provide a fix? :)
1228083934 M * Bertl yes, the promote_secondaries :)
1228083956 M * Bertl (it was added after multiple complaints :)
1228083990 M * yarihm i see. And who's supposed to set these? Me in /etc/sysctl.conf or util-vserver in a recent version?
1228084010 M * Bertl basically you, because you might want the mainline behaviour
1228084015 M * yarihm I often had this problem appear if util-vserver was upgraded without a reboot
1228084026 M * Bertl you know, enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot :)
1228084083 M * yarihm seems to happen faster than I'd like. But why does this only happen with the newest debian kernel? it does have the very same version number as the last one. kinda sucky, eh?
1228084113 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-72-25.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net
1228084114 M * Bertl it doesn't really depend on the kernel
1228084120 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1228084134 M * yarihm Bertl, it rather depends on ... ?
1228084139 M * Bertl well, it is there since quite some time
1228084150 M * Bertl unless your debian kernel was something before 2.6.16 or so
1228084164 M * yarihm no, it was debian but not _that_ old
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1228084207 M * yarihm but we have dozens of machines that do not lose IPs all of a sudden with similar recent kernels. is that related to vlan-interfaces maybe?
1228084209 M * Bertl but I guess the ifplugd (or whatever debian uses) causes your troubles now
1228084254 M * Bertl you might want to consult 'dmesg' to see if something takes down your interface when this happens
1228084342 M * yarihm heck ... I really appreciate people being innovative and all, but that udev-thing was really a schuss in den ofen. I particularly wonder why they force this onto server-users. This ifplug-shit and fancy dynamic device nodes is maybe nice for a laptop but I've never encountered a single time when this helped me on a server. It rather always bites me in the ass
1228084344 M * yarihm darn
1228084383 M * Bertl yeah, luckily you can turn it off :)
1228084393 M * yarihm udev?
1228084418 M * Bertl nah, ifplugd stuff
1228084534 M * yarihm well, I can't see any ifplugd running here
1228084561 M * Bertl check dmesg first for related messages
1228084602 M * yarihm am I fine when setting net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries=1?
1228084626 M * Bertl well, iif the problem is the primary going away, then yes
1228084646 M * yarihm dmesg | grep ifplug doesn't return anything. How do the respective messages look like?
1228084666 M * yarihm and what is the difference between the primary and the secondary?
1228084671 M * Bertl use less + your brain :)
1228084696 M * Bertl it's a highlander concept, there can only be one primary
1228084712 M * Bertl every other address within the same network becomes a secondary
1228084742 M * yarihm ah, let me guess. once i shutdown the primary, the secondary is removed, too
1228084816 M * Bertl all secondaries, yes
1228084829 M * yarihm what a nice concept. and what's the upside?
1228084844 M * Bertl (unless secondary promotion is enabled, then an arbitrary secondary becomes primary)
1228084857 M * Bertl no Idea, I never figured -what_ the purpose of that was
1228084878 M * Bertl but the betwork folks are sure that this is the only true way to handle it :)
1228084883 M * Bertl *network
1228084919 M * yarihm ah, so we are safe then ... (just our IPs aren't but that's another topic all together I guess)
1228084937 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180202132.adsl.alicedsl.de
1228085061 M * yarihm I start understanding why this only happens on specific servers. If you have a separate vlan for your vservers you are playing roulette with your ips if you shutdown the wrong vserver. If on the other side the host and the vservers share an interface, nothing will happen unless you remove the host's IP (which happens much less than rebooting a vserver)
1228085120 Q * ^jan Quit: Futurephobia .gz.
1228085129 M * Bertl yep
1228085161 M * Bertl in general enabling the secondary promotion is a good idea, IMHO
1228085186 M * Bertl for obvious reasons, the network folks keep the default off :)
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