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1227836741 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1227836751 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1227870245 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1227870248 M * Bertl morning folks!
1227870280 M * pmenier morning Bertl :)
1227870892 J * doener ~doener@i577B9A57.versanet.de
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1227875737 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1227875742 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1227885695 J * fitzdsl_ ~fitzdsl@ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-102-220.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr
1227885714 M * fitzdsl_ hi again
1227885771 M * fitzdsl_ I came yesterday for a problem to compile the cvs version
1227885872 M * fitzdsl_ I keep having /proc/uptime can not be accessed with the cvs version and the version send by daniel_hozac
1227885904 M * fitzdsl_ i run Linux vs 2.6.27.4-vs2.3.0.35.9
1227885925 M * fitzdsl_ i tried on older kernel, same trouble
1227885930 Q * Slydder3 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1227885942 M * fitzdsl_ any idea ?
1227886076 M * fitzdsl_ in fact I get it worked for a short time, using daniel_hozac version, until I reboot the server
1227886105 M * fitzdsl_ since I tried every version I had : i get the same trouble
1227886125 M * fitzdsl_ the ubuntu package is not anymore isntalled
1227886202 M * ard I think somewhere /proc/uptime is hidden in the scripts
1227886225 M * fitzdsl_ what do you mean ?
1227886248 M * fitzdsl_ i get the error when i try vserver my_vs start
1227886273 M * ard  /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vprocunhide/files
1227886307 A * ard searches
1227886383 M * fitzdsl_ i don't  have the vprocunhide directory
1227886403 M * ard there is an equivalent in /usr/lib/util-vserver
1227886413 M * pmenier fitzdsl_ : i got this error a few days ago and daniel tell to showattr /proc | head -1
1227886441 M * fitzdsl_ what doe's me showattr ?
1227886459 M * pmenier i.e. : AwH-bui- /proc/
1227886467 M * ard it shows vserver file attributes...
1227886473 M * fitzdsl_ ok
1227886477 M * pmenier and you can correct with : setattr --~hide /proc
1227886492 M * ard ah
1227886512 M * ard the file is: /usr/lib/util-vserver/defaults/vprocunhide-files
1227886532 M * ard those are the proc entries that can be read again
1227886593 M * ard It's a system wide configuration
1227886594 M * fitzdsl_ i  get
1227886596 M * fitzdsl_ awh-bui- /proc/
1227886611 M * fitzdsl_ is that correct ?
1227886626 M * pmenier yes i think
1227886646 M * fitzdsl_ should i try setattr --~hide /proc
1227886678 M * fitzdsl_ ?
1227886770 M * pmenier i get  awh-bui- too after setattr --~hide /proc  so 
1227886783 M * fitzdsl_ ok
1227886808 M * fitzdsl_ and what about the fact that i don't have the vprocunhide directory ?
1227886900 M * pmenier i don't have any directory vprocunhide just a file called vprocunhide
1227886915 M * fitzdsl_ what doe's it contain? 
1227886971 M * pmenier http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12626
1227887156 M * fitzdsl_ thanx a lot
1227887173 M * fitzdsl_ in fact i installed util-vserver in opt for tests
1227887196 M * fitzdsl_ and so i had that file in /opt/etc/init.d
1227887242 M * fitzdsl_ that's the reason why it didn't work after rebooting
1227887248 M * fitzdsl_ thx a lot you two
1227887260 M * pmenier np :)
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1227888902 M * arekm veth - hm, looks like it's possible to create virtual eth between guests 
1227889007 M * arekm if I understand correctly this allows fully virtualized network 
1227889050 M * arekm host gets one veth endpoint and guest gets the other veth endpoint
1227889142 M * arekm does vserver use netns?
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1227890211 M * arekm ok, looks like it doesn't use netns. All that networking code could be dropped then
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1227892798 J * dib ~dib@149.25.70-86.rev.gaoland.net
1227892894 M * dib hello all ! 
1227892964 M * dib trying to compile vcd from trunk, don't know how to run the first step ./configure : configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."
1227893417 M * daniel_hozac arekm: no.
1227893434 M * daniel_hozac arekm: virtualized network is not a replacement for what we do.
1227893531 M * arekm not a replacement, evolution, IMO into right direction (where guest can do almost everything host can)
1227893543 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.200.178
1227893572 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1227893576 M * Bertl back now ...
1227893582 M * daniel_hozac arekm: personally i don't want that maintenance or performance overhead.
1227893600 M * daniel_hozac arekm: but you can use a network namespace if you want.
1227893622 M * Bertl arekm: IIRC, Vista(TM) was marketed as 'evolutionary' too :)
1227893690 M * Bertl arekm: and if you want to do almost everything you can do on the host, then there is already a good solution, actually several of them: qemu, kvm, Xen
1227893738 M * arekm these don't have cool util-vserver tools ;)
1227893751 M * Bertl that is correct :)
1227893870 M * arekm daniel_hozac: "you can" means "do it yourself" or some util-vserver support?
1227893896 M * daniel_hozac for now, touch /etc/vservers/<guest>/spaces/net will create it.
1227893915 N * quinq qzqy
1227893923 N * qzqy quinq
1227894035 M * dib has someone already compiled vcd from subversion trunk ? 
1227894266 M * arekm daniel_hozac: do you know if kernel reports nets somewhere in procfs/sysfs?
1227894287 M * daniel_hozac /proc/self/net
1227894361 M * arekm hm, don't see any status about what netnses exist on host
1227894510 M * arekm ip ... veth needs netns parameter for example, trying to find out what netns (number?) is assigned to guest
1227894542 M * daniel_hozac pid of the process that created it.
1227894546 M * ard arekm : actually I am glad that vserver guest cannot do as they please ;-)
1227894582 M * ard that makes it more secure that using xen or other implementations that give a guest full network power
1227894644 M * arekm pid, right, but which pid will be that in vserver guest case? 
1227895133 J * chI6iT41 ~chigital@tmo-100-236.customers.d1-online.com
1227895177 M * arekm anyway /proc/self/net in guest is empty, so something didn't work
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1227895537 J * fitzdsl__ ~fitzdsl@ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-56-108.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr
1227895590 M * dib ok, install.sh found, but now it seems that "lucid" is needed, and don't know where to find it. Am I the only one who try to compile vcd ?
1227895739 M * dib yes, i think so : last modification date of svn is 2007-06-04...
1227895747 M * Bertl dib: besides Hollow, probably
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1227897121 M * daniel_hozac dib: http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/lucid
1227897530 J * cga ~weechat@94.36.127.211
1227897638 J * znyto_ ~znyto__@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1227897708 J * chI6iT41 ~chigital@tmo-096-30.customers.d1-online.com
1227898109 M * dib daniel_hozac: thanks ! rc2 won't compile, but rc1 do, fine.  Next step seems to be libvserver...
1227898224 A * arekm failed to create any netns... even using lxc (for now)
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1227898240 M * daniel_hozac do you have support for it in your kernel?
1227898325 M * arekm yes (NET_NS=y), dmesg shows: [ 2822.915506] Not cloning cgroup for unused subsystem ns
1227898343 M * Bertl mainline but, known
1227898361 M * Bertl s/but/bug
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1227900783 J * geb ~geb@112.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net
1227901404 M * micah daniel_hozac: when I regenerate my Makefile.in, the vnamespace stuff gets added back in, and then my compiles fail... where does that come from?
1227901411 M * micah my autoconf foo is bad
1227901420 M * daniel_hozac what vnamespace stuff?
1227901427 M * micah ah maybe its from src/Makefile-files
1227901434 M * micah you removed vnamespace.c 
1227901437 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1227901494 Q * geb Quit: Quitte
1227901504 M * micah so I pulled that, and when I try to compile, it fails because of the Makefile.in is looking for the vnamespace.o, which doesn't exist
1227901546 M * micah diet -Os gcc -Wall -g -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W -funit-at-a-time -o src/vnamespace src/vnamespace.o  lib/libvserver.a lib_internal/libinternal-diet.a  
1227901549 M * micah gcc: src/vnamespace.o: No such file or directory
1227901579 M * daniel_hozac why don't you just use a recent tarball?
1227901602 M * micah because I am not getting any traction from the debian-release people
1227901612 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-072-251-168.pools.arcor-ip.net
1227901640 M * micah and I've spent the last couple hours massaging this
1227901726 M * daniel_hozac so you got r2820?
1227901732 M * daniel_hozac uh. 2816
1227901764 M * micah yes
1227901783 M * daniel_hozac that already removes any trace from src/Makefile-files.
1227901858 M * micah right, thats why I'm confused :)
1227901870 M * micah that applies fine, it removes the traces from src/Makefile-files
1227902128 M * micah i think it has to do with my autotools ignorance
1227902249 M * micah I think i might have it
1227902474 M * micah yeah, I see what was going on, nevermind
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1227909529 M * dib ok, vcd is up, waiting connexion at localhost:13386 ! 
1227909549 M * Bertl congrats!
1227909607 M * dib thanks! What is the best time to meet Hollow on irc ?
1227909634 M * Bertl daytime GMT I guess
1227909689 M * Bertl but just 'ping' him here, he should read up and answer (sooner or later)
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1227909850 M * dib Hollow: I've managed to compile and start vcd and need some help to go further ;-)
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