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1225244046 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1225244051 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1225250482 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1225258348 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no
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1225274164 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
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1225279573 N * tokkee_ tokkee
1225279614 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1225279619 M * Bertl morning folks!
1225280480 J * frootat ~joern@dyndsl-080-228-188-238.ewe-ip-backbone.de
1225280772 J * bibabu bibabu@mikene.org
1225281749 M * Bertl bbl
1225281758 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1225282231 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net
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1225282698 J * bibabu bibabu@mikene.org
1225283038 J * Caeies ~Caeies@home.caeies.org
1225283044 M * Caeies hi all
1225283648 J * ctrix ~8__D@81-174-32-147.static.ngi.it
1225283718 M * ctrix daniel_hozac, i wanted to say thanks. Your patch for 2.6.27 is working flawlessly.
1225283882 Q * davidkarban_ Quit: Ex-Chat
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1225284865 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1225285476 M * Caeies I have the following setup: a small soekris, with 4 networks cards, 3 are on my dmz switch and 1 on my internal network one. I'm using 3 vservers, on per network card, and by playing with "ip route" command, they use the right device to go out (ie, not using the internal network device, but going throught the gw); There's a little bit of iptable on the lo interface to avoid direct access to the local internal network from the 3 others
1225285593 M * Caeies unfortunately, I like the vserver system, and I wanted to add a 4th one, on an already used dmz card ... but the route trick didn't work any more (I guess that the kernel didn't want to reroute specific traffic via the gw on a virtual device ...)
1225286752 M * PowerKe Caeies: What exactly are you trying to do on the 4th interface? You probably need source based routing.
1225286804 M * Caeies PowerKe, 4th interface ? it's the internal network, so It's not used by vserver
1225286839 M * Caeies PowerKe, and that's what I do (I guess) with iproute2
1225286851 M * Caeies for the 3 others network cards
1225286928 M * PowerKe Is there a reason you're using multiple network cards in the first case? It's possible to assign multiple ip's to the same card as well.
1225287030 M * Caeies PowerKe, well, for load balancing
1225287051 M * Caeies I guess I can do the same by aggregating them
1225287111 M * Caeies and that's avoid (at least I guess too) that sniffing one card, allow to see others traffic
1225287147 M * biz_ hi, is it possible to create bind-mounts for dirs within the guest with /etc/vservers/foo/fstab? Eg. if there is an entry like "/foo /bar none bind 0 0" in there, /foo has to be in the master host, I'd like to bind-mount /foo from within the guest to /bar within the guest
1225287164 M * Caeies PowerKe, to be perhaps more clear, it's perfectly working until I want to add a 4th vserver on the first used dmz network card ...
1225287173 M * Caeies the "source routing" is no more working
1225287185 M * PowerKe ok, so you created the 4th vserver. If you do "ip a l" on the host, do you see the ip bound to the correct interface?
1225287207 M * Caeies PowerKe, I using the nodev technic
1225287211 M * Caeies +m
1225287219 M * Caeies so I create them first in the host
1225287225 M * Caeies then start vserver
1225287297 M * Caeies the problem I'm facing is when I try to add the default route to my custom routing table
1225287300 M * Caeies ie
1225287343 M * Caeies ip route add default via 192.168.x.1 dev eth1 table foo
1225287366 M * Caeies then he reject it with RTNETLINK answers: No such process
1225287375 M * Caeies hmmm I guess I know why
1225287381 M * PowerKe Do you add the route on the host?
1225287478 M * Caeies yeah
1225287485 M * Caeies found what was the problem
1225287500 M * Caeies I first need to add the network access to the main table
1225287506 M * Caeies then add the gw
1225287513 M * Caeies and remove the rule from the main table
1225287572 J * MysticFire_Mobil ~pocketirc@92.116.50.221
1225287603 M * PowerKe Or you're missing 192.168.x.0/24 on your table foo?
1225287604 P * MysticFire_Mobil 
1225287698 M * Caeies PowerKe, no, it's already added
1225287704 M * Caeies that's the first rule I add
1225287784 M * Caeies PowerKe, I notice that the kernel was having strange behaviors with tables, since If you remove rules in local tables, to put them in custom one (which could be "the best") local packet delivering is no more working ... I guess it's for performance reasons
1225287823 M * Caeies PowerKe, perhaps the problem is in the rule
1225288052 M * Caeies PowerKe, thanks anyway, making me writing things help me solve my problem, as often :)
1225288153 M * PowerKe Caeies: you're welcome :)
1225288219 M * Caeies PowerKe, Is there a way I can put my little script on your wiki ? do you think it could be helpfull ?
1225288236 M * PowerKe biz_: Did you try /vservers/guest/foo /bar none bind 0 0 ?
1225288288 M * PowerKe It's not my wiki :) But you should be able to register and add it to the FAQ
1225288311 M * Caeies PowerKe, ok, yes :)
1225288425 M * PowerKe biz_: maybe a symlink would also work?
1225289950 Q * quinq Remote host closed the connection
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1225290464 J * balbir ~balbir@32.97.110.53
1225290593 J * quinq ~user@quinq.eu.org
1225290700 J * gloriajw ~gloriajw@7-15-20-64.static.cosmoweb.net
1225290724 M * gloriajw Hi all, I have a question about cloning
1225290735 M * gloriajw cd /home/vservers && /usr/sbin/vserver vserver2 build -m rsync --context 104 --hostname vserver2 --interface eth0:72.52.250.92/24 -- --source vserver1
1225290750 M * gloriajw runs well, except when postfix creates a file on the source.
1225290760 M * gloriajw rsync complains, my cloned image disappears.
1225290774 M * gloriajw How do I tell this build operation to ignore any errors from rsync?
1225290815 M * gloriajw Since this is a production virtual machine, I cannot shut down postfix for 30 minutes while the clone is running.
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1225291600 J * Web-sidux423 ~richi@85-126-150-198.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1225292618 J * bibabu bibabu@mikene.org
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1225293825 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1225293830 M * Bertl back now ...
1225293961 M * Web-sidux423 wb :)
1225293992 M * Web-sidux423 uh itsl ate, time to go home - cu :D
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1225294037 M * Bertl lol
1225294227 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1225294664 M * zbyniu Bertl: hi, can you explain me small part of patch? :)
1225294694 M * zbyniu security/commoncap.c  /* special case SETUP */
1225294731 M * daniel_hozac the context is not restricted while it's being setup.
1225294829 M * zbyniu hmm, what it means setup? i know, i'm lazy to read code :)
1225294873 M * daniel_hozac created.
1225294880 M * daniel_hozac configured.
1225294933 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1225295117 M * zbyniu hmm, ok, thnx
1225295123 M * Bertl zbyniu: there is a special (one time) flag called setup
1225295135 M * Bertl as long as this flag is set, the syscall is handled special
1225295229 M * Caeies hmm I'm not able to find again something about adding hot usb devices (aka printer) to a vserver
1225295233 M * Caeies any hint ?
1225295250 M * zbyniu for avoid self locking while creating/configuring context?
1225295501 M * daniel_hozac doesn't have anything to do with locking, the context setup needs to be privileged.
1225295601 M * daniel_hozac Caeies: just copy the device nodes.
1225295625 M * Caeies daniel_hozac, well does that work with hotplug devices ?
1225295654 M * daniel_hozac Caeies: if you copy it using a udev rule, sure.
1225295663 M * Caeies daniel_hozac, ah good point
1225297022 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.22.160
1225297367 M * Bertl Caeies: just make sure to add them to the guest space :)
1225297456 M * Bertl okay, translocating now ... bbl
1225297462 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1225298562 M * Caeies mmm and how do I do that ?
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1225299923 Q * doener Read error: Connection reset by peer
1225300108 J * doener ~doener@i577BB44E.versanet.de
1225300110 J * larsivi ~larsivi@9.80-202-30.nextgentel.com
1225300189 N * BobR_zZ BobR
1225300697 J * mtg ~mtg@dialbs-088-079-143-204.static.arcor-ip.net
1225301725 N * BobR BobR_afk
1225301743 M * Caeies what does tha mean exactly : just make sure to add them to the guest space
1225301760 M * Caeies to put it in the vdir of the guest ? or do I need to add something else (like caps ?)
1225301782 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1225301792 M * daniel_hozac no, just put it in the guest's /dev.
1225301831 M * Caeies ok
1225301839 M * Caeies cups find the printer
1225301849 M * Caeies but didn't want to add it
1225302681 J * frootat_ ~joern@dyndsl-085-016-239-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de
1225302793 J * chigital ~chigital@tmo-096-228.customers.d1-online.com
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1225302973 N * frootat_ frootat
1225303505 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1225304168 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1225304180 M * Bertl back now ..
1225304193 M * Bertl Caeies: cups problem?
1225304202 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend
1225304832 M * Caeies Bertl, yes
1225304877 M * Caeies was the redirection for accepting the adding the printer which was not working
1225304891 M * Bertl i.c. now working fine?
1225304899 M * Caeies yeah
1225304900 M * Caeies thanks
1225304910 M * Bertl excellent!
1225305732 M * micah i've got a machine I just setup with the debian 2.6.26 kernel (which is using vs2.3.0.35)... its under heavy load and keeps rebooting. The only thing I've found so far has been some messages on the console that I am not familiar with:
1225305793 M * Bertl let's see 
1225305800 M * micah vxW: [somethingasdasdad:#300|300|300] did lookup hidden f700bb28[#0,2] /dev/pts
1225305810 M * micah the 'somethingasdasdasd' is some kind of unicode garbage
1225305812 M * Bertl nah, that is harmless (and not really new)
1225305813 M * Caeies night
1225305814 M * micah i cannot copy/paste from the terminal
1225305816 M * micah ok
1225305833 M * Bertl do you have a dmesg output of that machine before the reboot?
1225305835 M * micah looks like it might say "ps 6194"
1225305848 Q * Caeies Quit: sleeping tim
1225305849 M * Bertl do you use e.g. watchdog? maybe the load level is too high?
1225305849 M * micah i do
1225305856 M * micah i mean I do have dmesg
1225305866 M * Bertl let's upload that for a quick look
1225305867 M * micah I dont think I am using watchdog, but the load has been high
1225305896 M * micah CONFIG_WATCHDOG=y is set
1225305907 M * micah CONFIG_SOFT_WATCHDOG=m
1225305911 M * micah but the second module is not loaded
1225305933 M * Bertl the question is, is a watchdog service running/activated?
1225305947 M * Bertl i.e. does 'ps auxwww | grep watchdog' show something?
1225305951 M * micah the dmesg isn't very interesting, but I'll put it up
1225305972 M * micah huh, there are [watchdog/0] procs
1225305978 M * micah  /1, /2, /3
1225305985 M * Bertl so looks like there are watchdogs running
1225306001 M * Bertl note that they have a default reboot trigger of 5 or 10 as load
1225306046 M * daniel_hozac really?
1225306064 M * Bertl IIRC, it was quite low
1225306082 M * daniel_hozac i don't remember load factoring in to it at all.
1225306128 M * micah http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12544
1225306135 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: not the kernel watchdog, the userspacce watchdog
1225306137 M * micah paste.linux-vserver should have a fileupload :)
1225306157 M * daniel_hozac micah: you know, i've thought about that too.
1225306192 M * micah Bertl: where is the reboot load trigger configured for these watchdogs?
1225306201 M * micah I've not used these, and am surprised they are there to be honest
1225306209 M * Bertl usually /etc/watchdog.conf or so
1225306234 M * micah arent [ ] proc kernel processes, rather than userspace ones?
1225306253 M * micah i've got no watchdog configs/packages on the system
1225306255 M * Bertl yep, but the kernel watchdog is by default not activated, IIRC
1225306271 M * Bertl i.e. userspace needs to activate/trigger them
1225306294 M * micah this is a freshly installed system, and I cannot find any userspace activators
1225306314 M * Bertl where did you get that machine btw?
1225306378 M * micah i'm not sure what you are asking :)
1225306391 M * Bertl and why the hell are you using highmem :) you should know better :)
1225306395 M * micah where was it obtained from originally?
1225306416 M * Bertl nah, it looks like a close to worst case scenario for a server
1225306425 M * micah i did not install the debian highmem kernel
1225306437 M * micah why do you say that?
1225306457 M * Bertl serverworks CSB5, cciss driver
1225306465 M * micah i wonder if the debian vserver kernel is highmem by default
1225306470 M * Bertl 4 cpus, but running 32bit
1225306481 M * micah actually 2 physical ones, hyperthreading
1225306499 M * Bertl 1GB memory, highmem :)
1225306500 M * micah its a 32bit machine
1225306507 N * BobR_afk BobR
1225306521 M * Bertl but anyway, that's no reason to reboot
1225306530 M * micah grr, yeah, the debian testing vserver kernel has highmem configured
1225306558 M * Bertl do you have any correlations with the reboots`
1225306562 M * Bertl s/`/?
1225306575 M * Bertl i.e. do they happen right when you logon/start/stop something?
1225306593 M * micah not that I am aware of, its just scanning spam right now, load goes up
1225306617 M * Bertl what is the highest load you did observe so far?
1225306618 M * micah which would correlate with the watchdog theory
1225306623 M * micah last I saw it was 55
1225306630 M * micah it got quite unresponsive
1225306640 N * BobR BobR_oO
1225306641 M * micah i've memtested and cpuburned the box
1225306648 M * micah so I'd be surprised if its hardware
1225306654 M * Bertl yeah 55 is quite high, what about I/O state?
1225306665 M * micah i dont know, I could barely type uptime
1225306670 M * Bertl i.e. what makes up most of the system state? WA?
1225306726 M * micah at the moment, now that its rebooted, its load 8, and most processes are in run state
1225306731 M * micah or S
1225306773 M * micah i agree 55 is higher than it should be, and the unresponsiveness is not good, but I am surprised that the machine rebooted in that state
1225306835 M * Bertl you said 'keeps rebooting' at what interval?
1225306866 M * daniel_hozac do you have panic=x set?
1225306889 M * micah so far I haven't established a strong correlation with anything, the machine has been online for about 6 days, the first 3 days were memtest/cpu burning, then I setup one vserver and fired it up and it started rebooting... It has rebooted I think 4 times in the last 24 hrs
1225306914 M * micah daniel_hozac: no panic= in my kernel boot params
1225306929 M * Bertl that is something you should be able to capture with a serial line then
1225306942 M * Bertl just make sure o turn on debugging for the kernel
1225306968 M * Bertl if you don't get any messages from the kernel, it is most likely a hardware issue after all
1225306976 M * micah yeah, I've got a remote serial console, but it usually times out and then when I see its down, I look and its rebooted and my buffer is empty
1225306992 M * micah Bertl: when you say 'debugging for the kernel' what debugging do you mean?
1225307013 M * Bertl add 'debug' to the kernel boot line, make sure that the msg level is adjusted
1225307052 M * micah its odd because this machine is 3x more powerful CPU wise than the previous machine, but its not handling the vserver as well
1225307072 M * micah its a newer kernel and totally different hardware
1225307104 M * Bertl yeah, hardware needs to be well chosen to get good results
1225307118 M * Bertl and trust me, hardware gets worse every day (in average)
1225307212 M * micah i'm not familiar with the debug line in the kernel boot param
1225307257 M * micah trying to find the details of how that can be set
1225307275 M * Bertl         debug           [KNL] Enable kernel debugging (events log level).
1225307295 M * Bertl ignore_loglevel [KNL]
1225307313 M * Bertl is a nice one too, if you don't know how to handle it from your distro :)
1225307354 M * micah so i just add the word 'debug' to the kernel boot param, should I set the ignore_loglevel to anything, or just leave it at that?
1225307402 M * Bertl [    0.436027] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware   .. interesting
1225307417 M * micah thats weird
1225307423 M * Bertl add debug and ignore_loglevel
1225307461 M * Bertl I'd also advise to check and if necessary fx the DSDT
1225307465 M * Bertl *fix
1225307479 M * micah ok, but no params, just '/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-vserver-686 root=/dev/mapper/vg_buff0-root ro debug ignore_loglevel'
1225307491 M * Bertl yep
1225307493 M * micah for some reason i cannot find this param via google
1225307497 M * micah the word 'debug' is too common :)
1225307507 M * Bertl Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt in your favorite kernel
1225307534 M * micah oh yeah, i forgot about that file
1225307541 M * micah damn google, making me stupid!
1225307565 M * micah maybe the debian kernel has the xen dom0 built into it?
1225307596 M * daniel_hozac domU would be more like it.
1225307626 M * micah nothing in the config matching -i xen
1225307648 M * micah i dont know xen, as a die-hard vserver fan :)
1225307712 M * micah ah: CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y
1225307832 M * micah well, i can't complain about the serverworks/cciss stuff, I got the machine for free
1225307855 M * micah i dont know much about those chipsets
1225307904 M * Bertl check the DSDT and make sure it is fine, then disable any CPU speed adjustment stuff in the kernel (and of course, the unused modules/drivers)
1225307994 M * micah such as CONFIG_CPU_FREQ* and CONFIG_CPU_IDLE* stuff?
1225308012 M * Bertl yes, they usually do mor harm on server than help
1225308261 M * micah is there really a big loss having highmem? i loose some speed due to the mapping i guess
1225308283 M * micah just weighing if its worth to remove it if I am going to upgrade the memory later
1225308300 M * Bertl to more than 3GB?
1225308323 M * micah debian has highmem kernels for >=1G, and then bigmem kernels for >=4gig
1225308345 M * Bertl but the kernel can handle up to 3GB without highmem
1225308496 M * micah so there is CONFIG_HIGHMEM and CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G
1225308524 M * Bertl and you want to disable both, and set the split to 3/1
1225308542 M * micah yeah, for machines with less than 1gig
1225308545 M * Bertl (for up to 3GB of memory on a 32bit machine)
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1225308764 M * micah yeah, i intend to add more memory soon, so I'll probably have to re-enable it then
1225308785 M * Bertl more than 3GB?
1225308818 M * micah well CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is also set, so I think you mean to ask 'more than 4GB?'
1225308841 M * Bertl no, once again, for 0-3GB on 32bit, all you need is the proper memory split
1225308854 M * Bertl no highmem, no highmem4G or PAE
1225308876 M * Bertl for above 3GB, you need to use highmem
1225308901 M * micah right, i understand
1225308983 M * micah anyways, the more interesting thing at the moment are the watchdog threads
1225308989 M * micah if they are causing the reboots or not
1225309040 M * Bertl well, we should see that on the serial console
1225309045 M * Bertl (next time it reboots)
1225309133 M * micah yeah
1225309727 M * micah the way I understand watchdog is that there is /dev/watchdog, which must be written to within a timeout, or the machine reboots... that writing has to be done by some kind of userspace
1225309782 M * micah but to have it activated it in a way that doesn't reboot the machine when there is no userspace utility to write to that device, I do not understand
1225309887 M * Bertl there is none, once userspace opens the device and activates the watchdog, it will be active
1225309902 M * Bertl i.e. if there is no periodical trigger, the machine will simply reboot
1225310080 M * micah ah, ok, so it could exist without an activator
1225310185 M * micah yeah the timer activates when the device file is open()'d
1225311545 M * [pn]richi 32 bit should handle 4 gb or?
1225311627 M * [pn]richi wiki means 32 bit system can handle 4 gb, but linux kernel just shows 3,2 gb all abouve with 32 should use pae, or is the wiki entry wrong?
1225311830 M * Bertl the problem is, 32bit can handle 4GB, yes, but you need to split the 4GB virtual address space somewhere
1225311833 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1225311857 M * Bertl so you can do, 1G/3G user/kernel, or 2G/2G user/kernel or 3G/1G
1225311904 M * snooze why not like 2.93G/1.17G? :))
1225311917 M * Bertl yes, that's possible too, but has no real advantage :)
1225311935 M * Bertl (actually it has to do with assigning bits to table sleectors)
1225311949 M * Bertl so you want to do that at 'nice' locations
1225312139 M * snooze hehe
1225312153 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@dslb-088-074-034-176.pools.arcor-ip.net
1225312236 J * dna__ ~dna@89-223-dsl.kielnet.net
1225312359 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.15.159
1225312521 M * Bertl ntrs_: ping?
1225312640 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1225312672 J * chigital ~chigital@tmo-096-85.customers.d1-online.com
1225312735 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-56-182-18.dclient.hispeed.ch
1225312782 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1225314021 Q * frootat Quit: :(){ :|:&};:
1225314642 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-28-181.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1225314961 Q * Slydder1 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1225315663 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1225315710 Q * dna__ Quit: Verlassend
1225315966 M * [pn]richi so should i update to 64 bit?
1225315973 M * [pn]richi or how can i use the full 4 gb?
1225315989 M * Bertl first, I'd check if your system can do 64bit
1225315989 M * daniel_hozac if you have a 64-bit box, you always want to run a 64-bit kernel.
1225315997 M * Bertl if it can, then go for 64bit
1225316017 M * Bertl somebody from the US around, who could order two SATA controllers for me and send them to Austria?
1225316019 M * [pn]richi its 64 bit opteron. :)
1225316031 M * Bertl so definitely 64bit kernel then
1225316549 M * Wonka Bertl, alter Bergdeutscher :)
1225317117 M * micah Bertl: machine crashed... interestingly, it wont boot with the debug kernel boot params
1225317148 M * micah just gets to a point where device-mapper is initialized, and then never goes further
1225317201 M * Bertl interesting, but it took the loglevel option?
1225317225 M * micah i had both of them, I'm rebooting now to try removing each in turn
1225317326 M * micah it takes forever to POST :)
1225317350 M * micah does debug send things to serial by any chance?
1225317440 M * micah bertl: yeah it takes the loglevel option
1225317577 M * micah the reason I wonder about the serial is because I think where it "stops" on bootup is normally where I would see the prompting for the passphrase to unlock the encrypted FS
1225317577 M * daniel_hozac micah: do you still have your usual console=... options?
1225317577 M * Bertl not by default, but to the console
1225317577 M * micah daniel_hozac: I have not been using a serial console
1225317782 Q * chigital Read error: Connection reset by peer
1225318080 M * micah i guess I can try to type my passphrase there and see what happens
1225318317 M * micah yeah, if I type my encryption passphrase there, it continues to boot
1225318321 M * micah and I see the rest of the bootup
1225318323 M * micah odd
1225318421 M * [pn]richi if i use highmem can i access the full 4 gb ram?
1225318524 M * [pn]richi i got in trouble with 64 bit and perl... but thats long ago... and a reinstall is not so easy on a remote maschin ;)
1225319118 J * Aiken_ ~Aiken@ppp118-208-9-204.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1225319189 M * Bertl [pn]richi: yes, but with a price for all apps (additional overhead on memory access)
1225319213 Q * Aiken Read error: Operation timed out
1225319754 M * micah Bertl: these are normal too?
1225319755 M * micah [  704.757004] vxW: [»ruby«,4841:#300|300|300] did lookup hidden f71bb8f8[#0,4026531880] »/proc«.
1225319829 M * daniel_hozac no.
1225319947 M * micah err
1225319960 M * micah wait, i asked that earlier, and Bertl said it was harmless and nothing new
1225319975 M * micah i thought it was different, because I was able to get a console that represented the characters right
1225319979 M * Bertl yes, access to /pts (is a bug we already fixed)
1225319980 M * micah so it looked very different to me
1225320057 M * micah anyways, i've got the kernel booted with debug and ignore_loglevel, although I haven't seen anything spit to console/dmesg
1225320078 M * Bertl well, that should log everything to console
1225320237 M * Bertl try to set the console loglevel via /proc/magic-sysrq to 8
1225320252 M * Bertl (or use dmesg to change it)
1225320312 M * micah dmesg -n 8?
1225320337 M * Bertl -n8
1225320342 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.202.52
1225320349 M * micah ive done that... should I be seeing anything other than the login prompt?
1225320370 M * Bertl depends, a) are you on 'the console'
1225320379 M * micah a) yes
1225320380 M * Bertl b) does the kernel log anything atm?
1225320400 M * Bertl a simple test is for example to load/unload a module
1225320417 M * Bertl (one which does some kernel output in dmesg)
1225320435 M * micah hmm, nothing
1225320441 M * micah modprobe loop; rmmod loop
1225320452 M * micah ah, wait, no there is a message
1225320474 M * micah [27234.38235235] loop: module loaded
1225320487 M * micah didn't see it get unloaded, or anything more than that
1225320550 M * Bertl so that should be fine
1225320709 M * micah ok, <waits for reboot again>
1225321095 M * [pn]richi is there a easy way of upgrading debian 32 to 64 ?
1225321115 M * [pn]richi for host and guest?
1225321207 M * Bertl no need to upgrade the guest right now
1225321220 M * Bertl i.e. a 32bit guest on a 64bit host is fine
1225321392 M * [pn]richi and can i upgrade the host?
1225321419 M * Bertl no idea, I'm not a debian person, but maybe micah knows
1225321484 M * micah someone just asked me the same question, but I have no idea
1225321489 M * micah I'm still stuck in 32-bit land
1225321516 M * micah because i'm running a non-profit, all of our hardware is donated, and as a result is behind by several years to the latest
1225322026 M * [pn]richi i will try later again to use google, if the dns work faster :)
1225322044 M * [pn]richi what could be nicer than debian? :D
1225322065 M * Bertl distro wars! 
1225322078 A * Bertl is going to fetch the game board :)
1225322106 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/
1225322155 M * micah hehe
1225322313 M * [pn]richi so time to go to bed - need more than 3 hours sleep - so thx for the nice help
1225322360 M * [pn]richi welcome to nightmare land - 10 bird spiders in front of my bed :D
1225322367 M * [pn]richi cya...
1225322382 N * [pn]richi pn-richi[zZzz]
1225322528 J * openblast ~quassel@static.230.173.47.78.clients.your-server.de
1225323006 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat
1225323434 M * micah whoa, bird spiders
1225323445 M * micah i think I was bitten by spiders the other night
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