1222214488 M * daniel_hozac it's something you should run every now and then.
1222214499 M * daniel_hozac you'll also want to clean /vservers/.hash from files with just one link.
1222214732 M * mattzerah yes, i saw that on the wiki
1222214931 M * mattzerah thanx daniel - i'll be back i'm sure :)
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1222233289 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 
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1222235876 M * infotron Pinky: seen Brain? He left some deranged laughter filled voice mail about taking over the world or something.
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1222243567 J * mess-mate ~chatzilla@ALille-257-1-158-168.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr
1222243576 P * mess-mate 
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1222247172 J * [exa] ~exa@tlapnet.cust.sloane.cz
1222247339 M * [exa] hi..please is there vserver patch for kernel versions greater than 2.6.22? I already failed at googling, but remember some repository with >=2.6.23 stuff, which is probably not available anymore.
1222247369 M * BuGless There is one for 2.6.27-rc1
1222247380 M * fb [exa]: look at experimental patches
1222247402 M * fb http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1222247454 J * biz biz@baze.de
1222247475 M * [exa] yeaah that's the thing i wanted, thx.
1222247531 M * [exa] just to ask, has "testing" branch (2.3) any stability (or other) problems?
1222247662 M * biz Hi, I need some help setting the guests hostnames correctly. Supposte I've got the domain foo.net - and two servers, each one with linux-vserver guests: srv1.foo.net and srv2.foo.net. Now each vserver guest needs two files in /etc/vservers/$guest/uts/: "hostname" containing eg. "myservice" and the file "domainname". What should I write in domainname? "foo.net" or "srvN.foo.net"? Or should I put "myservice.srvN" into hostname already?
1222247881 J * morrigan morrigan@IRC.13thfloor.at
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1222260840 J * doener ~doener@i577BB8F6.versanet.de
1222261345 J * koffu ~koffu@195.138.218.24
1222261410 M * koffu Hi all! May somebody tell me, how I may monitoring resource allocation failures?
1222261500 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51
1222262411 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1222262474 M * koffu Hi all! May somebody tell me, how I may monitoring resource allocation failures, as is in OpenVZ?
1222262551 J * xdr ~xdr@166-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se
1222262553 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1222262568 M * shuri Hi!
1222262574 M * shuri ltns
1222262577 M * Bertl monring folks!
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1222262598 M * shuri morning Berlt remember me?
1222262605 M * Bertl sure
1222262617 M * shuri the great shuri is back 
1222262622 M * shuri hehe
1222262625 M * Bertl excellent :)
1222262661 M * shuri i got a quick question
1222262689 M * shuri i got this error when user a vsever backup from rsync 
1222262691 M * shuri vcontext: execvp("/etc/init.d/rc"): No such file or directory
1222262701 J * ktwilight__ ~ktwilight@253.111-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1222262711 M * shuri /etc/init.d/rc is in the vserver
1222262769 M * Bertl rsync on the host?
1222262808 M * shuri you think rsync can be the problem?
1222262991 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1222263092 M * Bertl well, 'rsync' without the proper options will:
1222263102 M * Bertl  - leave out device nodes (/dev/*)
1222263122 M * Bertl  - might use the wrong user-ids (--numeric-owner)
1222263148 M * Bertl  - handle sparse files and links inefficiently
1222263393 M * shuri ok thx for the cue
1222263884 M * Bertl np
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1222264516 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host115-177-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
1222265038 J * simon ~simon@ip-83-99-9-32.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu
1222265047 M * simon hi
1222265071 N * simon Guest1376
1222265079 M * Guest1376 Is it somehow possible to share memory between containers ?
1222265117 N * Guest1376 sim0n
1222265230 M * BuGless mmap the same file?
1222265276 M * sim0n uhm I would need that for accessing the memory of another process running in a different vserver
1222265301 M * BuGless Just mmap the same file in both processes
1222265352 M * sim0n never worked with that but I'll look it up :-) ... thanks.
1222265456 M * sim0n hmm not sure if that's what I need, because I need to read and write different stuff into memory and be able to access it from both processes being in different containers
1222265797 M * BuGless That should do fine for that.
1222265803 M * BuGless (mmap)
1222265899 M * sim0n Ok I'll try it out... thanks for the tip ! :-)
1222266452 M * Bertl interesting approach ... but yeah, should work
1222266488 M * Bertl alternatively, we have ipc namespaces now, so you could, at least in theory, share the IPC namespace between two guests
1222266530 M * Bertl but that is slightly more complicated, because (at least I think) util-vserver doesn't have an option to do that (yet), so you'd need to set it up manually
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1222266714 J * marcfiu ~marcfiu@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1222266746 M * marcfiu what's the status of getting full vserver support in 2.6.25+?
1222266756 M * marcfiu I understand that there was an effort to raise funds for this.
1222267686 M * sim0n Bertl: that's good to know... should I not be able to implement it using mmap (using mono...), I'll give ipc a try.... thanks
1222268128 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1222268653 M * Bertl marcfiu: most parts are available in 2.6.26
1222268680 M * Bertl marcfiu: missing are (for now) the hard cpu scheduler
1222268698 M * Bertl marcfiu: the PID space handling (certain issues with PID isolation)
1222268723 M * marcfiu what about netns integration?
1222268723 M * Bertl and a lot of testing needs to be done for disk limits, filesystems and similar
1222268746 M * Bertl marcfiu: net namespaces should be useable as soon as mainline finishes them
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1222271215 M * cga hi all, is vserver $server delete correct?
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1222271518 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1222271623 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.76.106
1222271986 M * cga mmmmmm how do i delete a vserver??? can't remember and the man is no use
1222272059 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1222272140 M * marcfiu cga: vserver $server delete works for me
1222272212 M * cga mmmm i get an error
1222272235 M * cga nevermind
1222272240 M * cga it was my typo
1222272244 M * cga thanks =)
1222272340 M * Bertl np
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1222275499 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
1222275624 M * infotron Bertl: I'll be speaking at the next UTOSC on vserver =)
1222275633 M * Bertl congrats!
1222275775 M * infotron is vserver going into mainline? (is that the plan?)  With the new namespace features in mainline, I thought maybe you'll retool to use those existing feature (I haven't had much exposure beyond configuring the kernel on the new stuff)
1222275802 M * Bertl we are _using_ all available and working mainline features already
1222276131 M * infotron is it just a matter of time or donations before vserver is a mainline feature? Is this one of your goals, or will it be maintained seperately indefinately?
1222276187 M * Bertl well, it is not a priority to get Linux-VServer mainlined, but I have no problem with that .. the mainline ekrnel developer seem to think differently, and want to implement their own stuff (as it looks like)
1222276308 M * infotron reminds me of an xboss.  he was upset I was working on something, so I dropped that work in it's tracks and kept working on other stuff he wanted.  Now that I've been gone a year or so, he's trying to make up for that upsetting idea. (you get the concept, no need for piticulars)
1222276431 M * Pazzo Hi @ll! Short question regarding tmpfs: As I had all kind of problems with full /tmp-dirs (default: 16M) and as they are not able to grow within a vServer I completely disabled them on most vServers...
1222276460 M * Pazzo ...but as I really need them on some systems to get I/O-load under control, I would like to ask:
1222276485 M * Bertl why aren't they able to grow?
1222276493 M * Pazzo What's current best practice? Is it possible to have a tmpfs able to grow / shrink dynamically in a vserver?
1222276497 M * Pazzo Hi Bertl!!!
1222276504 M * Pazzo Bertl: are they?
1222276518 M * Bertl sure, you just risk that somebody will use up all the memory
1222276537 M * Bertl personally I prefer to make them slightly larger if required
1222276550 M * Pazzo And how can I get them dynamic?
1222276565 M * Bertl just remove the 16M size limit from the guest config fstab
1222276576 M * Pazzo Right now I removed them where not absolutely needed - and assigned some Gigs where I need them
1222276581 M * Bertl btw, they will be allocated dynamically anyway
1222276594 M * Bertl i.e. the limit is an upper bound not a static allocation
1222276636 M * Pazzo Hmmm... so if I set them to 2048M (example) they are not somehow pre-allocated, wasting memory?
1222276653 M * Pazzo Didn't know that
1222276654 M * Bertl nope, they will use up to 2GB of space if required
1222276660 M * Pazzo Cool
1222276680 M * Pazzo So why is then 16M the default limit?
1222276714 M * Pazzo You can't even run some larger PEAR upgrades this way :p
1222276718 M * daniel_hozac it's /tmp. it's not supposed to store large things.
1222276814 M * infotron that's a feature. you don't need php. ;) </taunt>
1222276817 M * Pazzo Yup... but I would like to use tmpfs for session files, for amavis processes etc (not /tmp, other directories)
1222276855 M * Pazzo infotron: that was an example - the only vServers where I'm currently using tmpfs are amavisd-new hosts
1222276936 M * Pazzo But it would for sure help to greatly reduce I/O on hosting servers too - I would like to dedicate tmpfs-partitions for user's session data and temp files etc
1222276950 M * Pazzo RAM is cheap and I/O is bad :p
1222276957 M * Pazzo (disk I/O)
1222277000 M * infotron agreed
1222277108 M * Pazzo And: PHP is not that bad - if used correctly. Even if the language itself is a mess... but investigating that topic would be farly off-topic ;-)
1222277248 M * Pazzo For example: I'm logging hundreds of syslog lines per seconds 24h a day through a pipe to a PHP-daemon, doing MANY strange aggregation things using lots of memory), it's running really fine since more than a year ;-)
1222277311 M * infotron well, if it works. no argument here, I mentioned in jest is all
1222277330 M * Pazzo :p
1222277435 M * Pazzo As I'm already disturbing you with my questions: how can I run netstat in contex 1? chcontext --xid 1 netstat ... doesn't seem to do the job
1222277453 M * Pazzo Today is system config cleanup day ;-)
1222277471 M * daniel_hozac ncontext --nid 1 --migrate -- vcontext --xid 1 --migrate -- netstat ...
1222277484 M * Pazzo daniel_hozac: thanks a lot!
1222277517 J * cryptronic ~oli@p4FD2C09F.dip.t-dialin.net
1222277673 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host115-177-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
1222280291 P * ghislainocfs2 
1222283836 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat
1222283905 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
1222283910 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1222285272 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.76.236
1222285526 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
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1222289426 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no
1222289510 M * trippeh Any known issues with, say, util-vserver 0.30.212 and kernel 2.6.26.5-vs2.3.0.35.6?
1222289621 M * cryptronic upgrade util-vserver to latest version and try again
1222289758 M * trippeh So I gather is should not work? I haven't rebooted to 2.6.26 yet ;)
1222289763 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-28-181.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1222289770 M * trippeh it even..
1222290462 M * daniel_hozac it might sort of work.
1222290579 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23C199.dip.t-dialin.net
1222291858 M * trippeh I take its not really supported then ;)
1222291920 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1222292234 M * trippeh .215 ok?
1222292243 M * trippeh Or do I need a snapshot?
1222292253 M * daniel_hozac either should work.
1222292301 M * trippeh With PID_NS=y too?
1222292333 M * daniel_hozac pid namespaces aren't used without my patchset.
1222292347 M * trippeh Oh :)
1222292962 J * xdr ~xdr@166-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se
1222293273 M * marcfiu daniel_hozac: I am looking for the email you sent me and folks at PL of what vserver related kernel work was needed for us to move from 2.6.22 to 2.6.25+.
1222293282 M * marcfiu can you send that to me or summarize it here.
1222293737 Q * marcfiu Quit: marcfiu
1222293803 J * doener_ ~doener@i577BAB72.versanet.de
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1222294078 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1222294083 M * Bertl back now ...
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1222295302 Q * yarihm 
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1222297491 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no
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1222299407 M * trippeh  unable to make backup link of `./usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
1222299504 M * trippeh Hm, seems to work with ln
1222299535 M * daniel_hozac run an strace.
1222299687 M * trippeh [pid  2139] link("/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz", "/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz.dpkg-tmp") = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
1222299718 M * trippeh mail1:~/test# ln "/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz" "/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz.dpkg-tmp"
1222299721 M * trippeh ln: creating hard link `/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz.dpkg-tmp' to `/usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz': Operation not permitted
1222299724 M * trippeh Yep..
1222299742 M * Bertl I presume, inside a guest?
1222299750 M * daniel_hozac what kernel, filesystem, is it hashified, etc.
1222299751 M * trippeh Correct
1222299781 M * trippeh hashified, ext3, 2.6.26.5-vs2.3.0.35.6
1222299805 M * Bertl new kernel?
1222299833 M * Bertl I mean, did you switch to that kernel recently?
1222299846 M * trippeh Yep. Just now
1222299852 M * trippeh Rehashify, maybe?
1222299862 M * Bertl and the guest was hashified before?
1222299865 M * trippeh Yes
1222299875 M * Bertl do you still have the old ekrnel
1222299879 M * Bertl ?
1222299881 M * trippeh Yep
1222299892 M * Bertl okay, then boot to that, daniel_hozac has a script for you :)
1222299913 M * trippeh daniel_hozac: \o/
1222299915 M * trippeh :)
1222299946 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/save-vsdata.sh
1222299976 J * SlackLnx ~Lee@bl7-145-214.dsl.telepac.pt
1222299986 M * daniel_hozac run it with --root /vservers --unset --file <output>
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1222300102 M * trippeh Then just reboot into the new kernel and all should be fine?
1222300154 M * daniel_hozac reboot into the new kernel, run bash <output>
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1222300327 M * trippeh Ok
1222300334 J * quinq ~quinq@quinq.eu.org
1222300355 Q * trippeh Quit: Down down down
1222300387 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1222300726 Q * SlackLnx Quit: I'll Be back