1220230501 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220231373 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173.16.9.10 1220231766 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220232440 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.85.233 1220238068 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1220238068 T * ChanServ - 1220240277 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220244840 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1220249958 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1220250092 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1220250104 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1220251715 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180194179.adsl.alicedsl.de 1220252536 Q * hijacker__ Remote host closed the connection 1220252874 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1220252889 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1220253566 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1220253676 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1220253682 M * Bertl morning folks! 1220253772 J * dna ~dna@p54BCEEB5.dip.t-dialin.net 1220254569 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1220255786 N * blathijs_ blathijs 1220259014 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection 1220259030 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1220259314 J * tramjoe_merin ~tramjoe@193.41.238.151 1220259525 Q * tramjoe_merin Remote host closed the connection 1220259580 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1220260019 J * tramjoe_merin ~tramjoe@193.41.238.151 1220260757 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220261290 J * dna_ ~dna@p54BCC168.dip.t-dialin.net 1220261623 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220262052 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220263186 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1220265180 J * _nkukard_ ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1220265226 Q * _nkukard_ 1220265292 J * _nkukard_ ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1220265373 Q * _nkukard_ 1220266048 N * C14r_ C14r 1220266130 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-208-172-153.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net 1220268088 Q * dennis__ Remote host closed the connection 1220269782 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220269894 J * torsti76 ~torsti76@gate.iwm-kmrc.de 1220269913 M * torsti76 hi folks! 1220269929 M * torsti76 i've got a strange problem: 1220269953 M * torsti76 gentoo host, amd64, 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 1220269967 M * Bertl yeah, very strange indeed :) 1220269980 M * torsti76 i built up the server by rsyncing from a similar machine 1220269985 M * torsti76 everything works well 1220270002 M * torsti76 now, without changing any config options rebuilt the kernel 1220270019 M * torsti76 and as soon as i boot into that kernel, it panics 1220270035 M * torsti76 a vanilla kernel with the same options works 1220270055 M * daniel_hozac what's the panic? 1220270064 M * Bertl yeah, please upload the output 1220270070 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1220270092 M * torsti76 bertl: how can i save the output? 1220270112 M * Bertl serial or network console, or via KVM console 1220270136 M * torsti76 ok, i'll try and report back 1220270137 M * Bertl or if you are missing any remote console, take a picture or copy it by hand 1220270221 M * torsti76 luckily i have a networked kvm at hand ;) 1220270308 M * Bertl excellent! 1220270525 M * quote damn 1220270545 M * quote rpm-fake-resolver: vc_ctx_migrate(): No such process 1220270545 M * quote rpm-fake.so: failed to initialize communication with resolver 1220270552 M * quote when i try to create guest vserver with yum 1220270585 M * Bertl IIRC, that was fixed recently upstream 1220270600 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1220270606 M * daniel_hozac or, well, worked around. 1220270660 M * quote which means...? 1220270664 M * quote for us newbies:p 1220271138 M * quote where? how? 1220271310 M * Bertl svn IIRC 1220271334 M * torsti76 bertl: I don't get the whole trace on the screen 1220271360 M * torsti76 anyone here has experience with raritan kvms? ;) 1220271362 M * quote Bertl: u'll have to be more specific cuz i have no idea what you're saying :) 1220271392 M * Bertl quote: daniel_hozac will provide the details ... just be patient 1220271401 M * quote ok, sorry 1220271411 M * Bertl torsti76: show us what you have for a start 1220271420 M * torsti76 just a second 1220271432 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1220271488 Q * fanto666 Quit: Leaving 1220271712 M * torsti76 bertl: can i upload a screenshot somewhere? 1220271755 M * Bertl probably, but don't ask me where :) 1220271817 M * torsti76 hmm - i'll try with a serial console 1220271852 M * torsti76 but this will take some time (have to care about some users first ;) 1220271905 M * Bertl take your time .. but if you have a web server, that would be a good place to temporarily put it :) 1220272258 M * torsti76 yes, i thought about that - but it's barely readable nontheless 1220272733 M * torsti76 bertl: can you give me a hint about the kernel parameters for console redirection to ttyS0? 1220272802 M * Bertl console=ttyS0,115200n8 1220272808 M * quote so.. 1220272819 M * Bertl torsti76: adjust the rate, parity and bits 1220273369 M * ard eh... 1220273372 M * ard raritan kvms 1220273375 A * ard shivers 1220273396 A * ard almost had to use raritan serial console servers 1220273408 M * ard now we have cyclades 1220273443 M * torsti76 bertl: i fear that the kernel doesn't even get to the point where it initializes ttyS0 1220273463 M * torsti76 just for a test i connected our good old wyse terminal 1220273466 M * ard And we made cyclades fix bugs none-the-less (they were also buggy, despite being on the market for 2 years) 1220273493 M * ard for wyse, use 38400 at most 1220273511 M * torsti76 i've used the kernel's standard setting: 9600 ;) 1220273511 M * ard the newer older serial terminals are to slow to handle 115k2 1220273543 M * torsti76 and the terminal is also set to 9600n8 1220273565 M * torsti76 i'll just give it another shot 1220273585 M * ard does it really work? I mean: if you have the /etc/inittab fixed, do you get a login? 1220273604 M * ard if that works, check if you have enabled console on serial port 1220273615 M * ard (in your kernel) 1220273644 M * ard if that works, do you have any ide devices? 1220273658 M * ard although that should have been fixed in 2.6.19 1220274102 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1220274224 M * daniel_hozac quote: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2782.tar.bz2 1220274649 M * torsti76 ard: i don't get a login - the whole thing is about tracing a kernel panic ;) 1220274665 M * torsti76 bertl: i got a trace in textual form, i'll paste 1220274762 M * torsti76 bertl: it's up 1220274887 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220274964 M * torsti76 bertl: 2.6.26 compiled on the same machine with the same options (except vserver of course ;) boots up fine... 1220275058 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.26 is not 2.6.22... 1220275075 M * torsti76 daniel_hoziac: i know 1220275098 M * torsti76 that's why i suspect something regarding the memory management 1220275108 M * torsti76 this machine has 16 gb 1220275137 M * torsti76 and there was a discussion about __rcu_process_callback in LKML 1220275161 M * torsti76 but i dunno, if this is related somehow 1220275175 M * daniel_hozac so try a 2.6.26 vserver kernel. 1220275191 M * torsti76 where do i get one? ;) 1220275230 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ same as always. 1220275283 M * torsti76 daniel: thx - i didn't remember, since i'm usually fine with the stable variant ;) 1220275521 M * Bertl torsti76: looks like your bios might be rboken 1220275523 M * Bertl *broken 1220275585 M * torsti76 bertl: oh 1220275612 M * torsti76 let's see, if dell's got a newer one 1220275631 M * Bertl simply try to disable acpi for a test 1220275644 M * torsti76 in the kernel? 1220275647 M * Bertl acpi=noacpi 1220275653 M * Bertl (as boot option) 1220275662 M * torsti76 i already built a kernel without acpi at all 1220275667 M * torsti76 failed, too 1220275678 M * ard Hmmmm, for dell using kernels >> 2.6.18 I always enable acpi 1220275682 M * Bertl torsti76: then please get me the trace from that one 1220275695 M * Bertl torsti76: because this trace is in the ACPI subsystem 1220275700 M * ard you might be able to enable early_printk 1220275735 M * torsti76 bertl: ok, that'll take a while again (i don't need to get to the 13th floor, but to the 1st ;) 1220275757 M * Bertl :) 1220275760 M * ard torsti76 : what kind of dell are we talking about? 1220275768 M * torsti76 bertl: or should i just try with acpi=noacpi? 1220275777 M * Bertl should do the trick too 1220275783 M * torsti76 ard: PE 1950 with dual quadcore xeon 1220275791 M * ard Heh... 1220275809 M * ard 2A usage if you use all 8 of them :-) 1220275848 M * ard We have 1950, first series, and 1950 3rd series, and with the first bios it works 1220275853 M * ard with vserver... 1220275856 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1220276018 M * ard torsti76 : http://217.196.41.9/~ard/d1950-config.txt 1220276029 M * ard that's a .config 1220276034 M * ard compare it to yours :-) 1220276064 M * ard 2.6.22.18 .config 1220276069 M * ard with vserver 2.2 1220276095 M * ard if that doesn't work on your dell, your dell must be broken somehow ;-) 1220276101 M * ard or your compiler :-) 1220276745 M * torsti76 ard: the strange thing is: i have two other 1950 3rds running flawlessly with the same kernel 1220276766 M * torsti76 both with 8gb ram and dual quadcore 1220276769 M * quote quote: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2782.tar.bz2 1220276812 M * torsti76 bertl: i tried with acpi=noacpi and simply noacpi - that didn't change the trace 1220276836 M * torsti76 now i'll upload a trace of a kernel that's compiled without any pm or acpi-support 1220276840 M * Bertl that's interesting ... 1220276850 M * Bertl yeah, please do so 1220276866 M * quote configure: error: Can not find the 'ionice' tool within '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.1:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin'. 1220276879 M * quote when tryin to configure that util-vserver daniel_hozac gave me.. 1220276899 M * fb quote: install schedutils 1220276906 M * torsti76 bertl: ok, it's up 1220277068 M * torsti76 ard: maybe i'll try an emerge -e world - should be only a matter of a few hours on that machine - there might be faulty binaries, since the tz was still set to factory, while i rsynced from one of the other machines - now it's CEST... 1220277099 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.85.233 1220277106 M * ard have you checked the diffs? 1220277124 M * torsti76 between the two configs? 1220277125 M * ard we have 1950's with 16G :-) 1220277129 M * quote daniel_hozac: i did configure, make, make install and make install-distribution & i still get the same error..what am id oing wrong?:) 1220277130 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1220277133 M * ard yes :-) 1220277156 M * ard (not much though, 4G is usually enough) 1220277162 M * torsti76 ard: do you run gentoo somewhere? 1220277174 M * torsti76 not, if you use zope extensively ;) 1220277193 M * ard ah... I have one with a 2.6.19 kernel, vserver and 16G 1220277204 M * ard but that might be a 2950 (same motherboard though) 1220277213 M * ard and we are a debian shop :-) 1220277222 M * torsti76 ic :) 1220277242 M * ard We also host wagner.debian.org, and hopefully soon 4 extra servers :-) 1220277244 M * torsti76 i always prefer the gard way ;) 1220277253 M * torsti76 g=h 1220277295 M * torsti76 ard: i'll try your config now - see ya soon 1220277297 M * ard we can't do that... to many servers :-) 1220277418 M * fb ard: wheh will you support ipv6? ;) 1220277458 M * ard fb we are busy... at least I am :-) 1220277486 M * ard we already have an ipv6 /32 or so 1220277656 M * fb i'm waiting for some big content provider to start provide their content with both ipv4 and ipv6. 1220277766 M * fb i have my own /64 assigned from my provider home, but it's barely usable 1220277821 M * fb most irc networks have their servers available on ipv6 networks, and generally that's all :( 1220277949 M * ard well, you can try www.ipv6.telegraaf.nl 1220278031 M * blathijs Is it me, or is that abuse of DNS? (ie, shouldn't www.telegraaf.nl just have an AAAA record?) 1220278039 M * ard but I was busy putting that into a vserver, and somehow all links are hard 1220278093 M * ard blathijs : if I put an AAAA record extra for www.telegraaf.nl, a lot of big suits are going to jump like crazy chimps that the site is not visible to a lot of people 1220278098 M * SpComb blathijs: you'll break a portion of the IPv4 clients' connectvity if you do that 1220278109 A * SpComb has a graph with percentages somewhere 1220278166 M * ard BTW: thats just 6to4, we don't have any means to connect to ipv6 services yet. 1220278174 M * blathijs Because those clients think they can do IPv6, but don't actually have proper routing yet? 1220278181 M * torsti76 ard: lot's of drivers in your kernel that aren't needed 1220278184 M * ard That means upgrading our routers, or renting extra uplink ports 1220278194 M * fb erm 1220278204 M * fb why should it break something? 1220278225 M * fb if the client has no ipv6 connectivity, it won't ask for AAAA record 1220278230 M * ard fb : there are a lot of clients that think they can do ipv6, but actually can't 1220278234 M * torsti76 but ok, let's try the suse approach ;) 1220278238 P * torsti76 1220278253 J * torsti76 ~torsti76@gate.iwm-kmrc.de 1220278258 M * ard and? 1220278269 M * fb ard: then blame them! ;-) 1220278281 A * ard was actually refering to torsti76 1220278300 M * ard fb : you can't blame the persons that are your income... 1220278318 M * ard almost like "the customer is king" 1220278327 M * fb ard: see the smile at the end :P 1220278366 A * ard just wanted to explain it a little more ;-) 1220278390 M * ard for my sites: if people can't see it, they actualy don't need to see it. 1220278465 M * fb but some linux related sites could start to provide their services with ipv6 too 1220278491 M * fb i'm missing security.debian.org for example 1220278519 M * blathijs I actually think that hit me sometime as well, irssi tried to connect to an ipv6 host, even though I don't have ipv6 connectivity on this host yet 1220278564 M * daniel_hozac recent glibcs are supposed to do the right thing. 1220278644 M * quote daniel_hozac: why do i still have that error after installing util-vserver u gaveme? 1220278674 M * SpComb blathijs: http://www.your.org/v6clients.png 1220278693 M * SpComb http://mail.your.org/pipermail/v6test/2008-June/000073.html <-- via this 1220278737 Q * tramjoe_merin Remote host closed the connection 1220278775 M * daniel_hozac quote: presumably because you installed it to a different path, and you're still using the old utils. 1220279135 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.194.49 1220279166 M * torsti76 ard: your kernel config doesn't work either ;( 1220279179 M * torsti76 i suspect the gcc 1220279201 M * torsti76 since everything that is compiled on one of my other machines runs perfectly well on this one 1220279224 M * Bertl yes, looks like some gcc issue 1220279240 M * torsti76 and it boots gentoo/vanilla and install-cd kernels without any issues 1220279252 M * Bertl to make sure, try to re-compile the kernel with the same config on a different machine 1220279283 M * torsti76 bertl: the config came from another machine where the same kernel runs perfectly ;) 1220279348 J * vargadani ~vargadani@catv-89-135-16-217.catv.broadband.hu 1220279354 M * vargadani hi there 1220279362 M * vargadani is there a diagram for vserver? 1220279383 M * Bertl hmm? 1220279383 M * vargadani just to demonstrate how it works together with the kernel 1220279399 M * vargadani how to imagine vserver 1220279402 M * Bertl it is in the kernel .. basically a layer between kernel and userspace 1220279420 M * vargadani so there is really none at this moment... 1220279424 M * vargadani i will try to make one 1220279789 M * vargadani how do you call the vserver instances? 1220279800 M * vargadani virtual environment or... what? 1220279816 M * daniel_hozac 'guests'? 1220279844 M * vargadani very complicated ^_^ hihi 1220279845 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220279855 M * vargadani alright 1220280196 M * vargadani if I show a picture of vserver (and how to imagine it) to sb, do you think this is will do it? http://hungarydan.com/vserver/vserver.jpg 1220280229 M * Bertl the userspace part should go over the guests 1220280294 M * quote daniel_hozac: i gotta do ./configure --prefix=/usr/ i guess? 1220280304 M * quote it was /usr/local now.. 1220280315 M * daniel_hozac whatever settings you used before. 1220280326 M * Bertl vargadani: i.e. the guests _are_ in userspace (or are userspace) 1220280357 M * vargadani however they are separated from the original userspace 1220280367 M * vargadani but yes 1220280370 M * vargadani you are right 1220280417 M * daniel_hozac they don't have to be. 1220280462 M * vargadani I updated the picture 1220280475 M * vargadani if you could take a look and if say that it is how you wanted it 1220280485 M * vargadani waa 1220280494 M * vargadani that sentence doesn't make any sense :) 1220280501 A * vargadani is a bit tired :) 1220280568 M * quote how can i check which version of util-vserver am i using now 1220280577 M * daniel_hozac vserver --version 1220280643 M * quote vserver 0.30.216-pre2782 -- manages the state of vservers 1220280647 M * quote i guess this is it 1220280672 M * quote You are using a version of yum which current status is unknown to vyum. 1220280722 M * quote now its saying rpm package is missing for python 1220280727 M * quote but i emerged python with rpm support 1220280769 M * daniel_hozac i hope you did it the other way around... 1220280802 M * daniel_hozac i don't know what "python with rpm support" entails, but i doubt it makes any sense on a non-RPM distro. 1220280816 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.86.102 1220280910 M * quote There was a problem importing one of the Python modules 1220280910 M * quote required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: 1220280910 M * quote No module named rpm 1220281317 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net 1220281814 M * quote hmmm 1220281817 M * quote got it working now 1220281821 M * quote but.. 1220281823 M * quote vyum test -- install yum 1220281823 M * quote Can not find a vserver-setup at '/usr/local/etc/vservers/test/'. 1220281834 M * quote where tha hell did it get that strange path? 1220281839 M * quote /usr/local 1220281848 M * quote and how can i change it 1220281921 M * daniel_hozac from ./configure. 1220282012 M * quote can i change it manually or do i need to recompile util-vserver? 1220282072 M * daniel_hozac rebuild with --sysconfdir is the easiest way. 1220282805 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl 1220282847 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1220283678 J * xdr ~xdr@178-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1220283702 Q * xdr 1220284984 M * torsti76 jfi: the newer kernel (2.6.26.3-vs2.3.0.35) works like a charme 1220284996 M * torsti76 thanks to all helpers :) 1220286640 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1220287258 J * dna ~dna@p54BCC168.dip.t-dialin.net 1220287622 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220288155 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1220288335 N * pmenier pmenier_off 1220289201 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220289210 J * mcp ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1220290378 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220291408 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1220292388 M * Bertl_oO nap attack .. off to bed now .. bbl 1220292393 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1220292694 Q * vargadani Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220292735 J * vargadani ~vargadani@catv-89-135-16-217.catv.broadband.hu 1220296330 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@213.121-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1220296497 Q * Wonka Remote host closed the connection 1220296577 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1220296608 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220296642 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1220298139 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220298148 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1220298592 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1220299818 J * dna ~dna@p54BCEAD8.dip.t-dialin.net 1220299909 Q * vargadani Remote host closed the connection 1220300553 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-124-125.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1220302678 Q * duckx Quit: Client exiting 1220302928 M * cehteh mhm vwait at 100% cpu when reboot -f from a vserver .. is that normal? 1220302941 M * cehteh (albeit it reboots now) 1220302953 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1220303426 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p5B23C9BB.dip.t-dialin.net 1220305466 J * Loki_muh loki@satanix.de 1220305466 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220305478 N * Loki_muh Loki|muh 1220306401 J * doener ~doener@i577B9910.versanet.de 1220306508 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220306830 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1220306834 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1220306842 J * padde_ ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1220306842 Q * padde Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220306852 N * padde_ padde 1220306870 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1220306932 M * quote hm 1220306972 M * quote daniel_hozac: if i set ./configure --sysconfdir=/etc/ i get 'Can not find a vserver-setup at '/usr/etc/vservers/gameserver/'.' 1220307177 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1220307177 N * emcepe mcp 1220309871 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1220309874 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220309886 N * emcepe mcp 1220311670 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1220311670 T * ChanServ - 1220312572 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1220312590 J * mcp ~mcp@wolk-project.de