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1219548529 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1219548532 M * Bertl back now ...
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1219554819 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1219554823 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1219555869 J * emag APDHVreHqg@gurski.org
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1219567810 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4882A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
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1219575465 J * quote ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1219575466 M * quote hi
1219575603 M * DavidS "hi"
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1219577966 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1219579066 M * DavidS micah: ping?
1219579811 M * DavidS http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12382 vserver build on lenny fails with "vc_migrate_context(): Function not implemented" after debootstrap
1219579938 M * fosco yep
1219579953 M * fosco for now, you can just downgrade util-vserver
1219579966 M * fosco 0.30.215-2 works just fine
1219579982 M * DavidS so it's a known bug?
1219580130 M * DavidS I'll try again
1219580273 M * fosco yes it's a known bug (and I got it yesterday :)
1219580767 M * DavidS hmm .. bugs.debian.org didn't know it :-/
1219581003 M * DavidS indeed, with 212-1 from etch i could create a vserver
1219581009 M * DavidS now for some more testing ...
1219581991 M * fosco you can use http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/05/02/debian/pool/main/u/util-vserver/util-vserver_0.30.215-2_amd64.deb :)
1219582024 M * fosco s/amd64/whatever/ if needed
1219582073 M * DavidS in which ways is that better than 212?
1219582102 M * DavidS especially as 212 seems to "work for me"
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1219591660 M * _keks_ hi
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1219593261 J * mrjack2 vend3r@office.smart-weblications.net
1219593262 M * mrjack2 hi
1219593301 M * mrjack2 is this image http://linux-vserver.org/skins/common/images/wiki.png copyright protected or may i use it in my products description on a website if i plan to offer vserver hosting?
1219594025 P * _keks_ 
1219594065 J * jmcaricand jm@53.193.80-79.rev.gaoland.net
1219594112 Q * jmcaricand 
1219594240 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1219594244 M * Bertl morning folks
1219594250 M * mrjack2 hi Bertl
1219594259 M * mrjack2 Bertl: is this image http://linux-vserver.org/skins/common/images/wiki.png copyright protected or may i use it in my products description on a website if i plan to offer vserver hosting?
1219594284 M * Bertl better get one here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/LOGO/
1219594301 M * Bertl check out the 1.02.1* ones
1219594331 M * mrjack2 Bertl: okay, but i can use it in a product description without any worry?
1219594334 M * Bertl and yes, you can use them for promotional purposes if you provide Linux-VServer in some way
1219594348 M * mrjack2 Bertl: well, i also link to the project on the site.
1219594367 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-220-221-184.bhm.bellsouth.net
1219594372 M * mrjack2 i want to upload it in a few hours when i finished the site.
1219594382 M * Bertl you might also want to add your company to http://linux-vserver.org/VServer_Hosting
1219594410 M * Bertl if it is hosting related
1219594415 M * mrjack2 Bertl: it is already listed, but i want to put the vserver-hosting to a separate site/separate service level agreements etc... i'll leave a note when it is finished.
1219594457 M * Bertl that's fine, just don't claim that Linux-VServer is _your_ technology or that the logo is _your_ design :)
1219594469 M * mrjack2 no, i won't.
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1219596155 M * micah DavidS: yes, its a known bug, the user-space utilities are unable to work with the newer kernel API yet, daniel_hozac is working on that
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1219605516 M * daniel_hozac micah: actually, util-vserver is using an API that does not yet exist in the kernel.
1219606085 M * micah daniel_hozac: oops, I had it inverted I guess
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1219607555 M * DavidS daniel_hozac, micah: it would be great if you guys could figure it out. One way or the other :-P
1219607737 M * DavidS but for whats it's worth: the 2.6.26-vserver kernel in sid seems to be working fine
1219607848 M * DavidS and hashify really rules: a base lenny install needs only 75 out of 181M really .. I'm wondering what the rest is ...
1219607928 M * DavidS ok, half of that was apt cache
1219608013 M * DavidS and most (28M) of the rest (34M) seems to be var/lib ...
1219608022 M * DavidS not much to be done there
1219608134 M * daniel_hozac DavidS: it's already fixed in trunk.
1219608155 M * DavidS daniel_hozac: great, you're the man :-)
1219608378 M * DavidS bye, and have good night or whatever, everyone!
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1219609003 M * daniel_hozac micah: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2771.tar.bz2
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1219610200 M * daniel_hozac micah: note the changes to the initscript.
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1219615079 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: just reading the ML and chuck's 'issues' with gentoo, and I have a related question which bothers me since some time:
1219615130 M * Bertl the 'Timeout' message often shows no process at all (i.e. empty list), what does that mean?
1219615146 M * Bertl (not just for gentoo, I had that on mandriva too, IIRC)
1219615300 M * daniel_hozac i know.
1219615315 M * daniel_hozac it's something i've been meaning to fix.
1219615352 M * daniel_hozac there are two places that issue a vc_ctx_kill, and sometimes (most of the time), the vps happens after the other process has killed them all off.
1219615403 M * Bertl so, nothing happens during the timeout, but when you list the stuff via ps, it suddenly gets killed?
1219615434 M * daniel_hozac after the timeout is completed, it's signalled via a sync socket to the scripts.
1219615443 M * daniel_hozac immediately after that, the scripts will issue a ps.
1219615450 M * daniel_hozac and vwait will kill the processes.
1219615491 M * Bertl vwait here is?
1219615506 M * daniel_hozac the program doing vc_ctx_wait + timeout + vc_ctx_kill.
1219615527 M * Bertl okay, shouldn't that do the ps then?
1219615553 M * Bertl (before doing the vkill)
1219615571 M * daniel_hozac no, vwait shouldn't do the kill at all.
1219615590 M * Bertl ah, okay, that'd work too
1219615931 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
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1219619722 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1219620577 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: heh, turns out it was something far more silly.
1219620601 M * Bertl let's hear ...
1219620643 M * daniel_hozac it's using egrep to filter the vps output... but configure resolves all symlinks, and since egrep is just a symlink to grep, it ends up using an extended pattern that grep doesn't understand, resulting in no output.
1219620671 M * Bertl nice one :)
1219621254 M * daniel_hozac micah: so, grab http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2772.tar.bz2 instead.