1219278653 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B906B.versanet.de 1219278753 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219283052 J * Supaplex_ ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1219283146 Q * Supaplex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219284774 J * Supaplex ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1219284774 Q * Supaplex_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219286447 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23EFD1.dip.t-dialin.net 1219286878 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219287499 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.21.12 1219292956 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B069.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1219294942 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219295420 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1219296001 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219299686 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1219299954 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219301015 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219301086 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone°! 1219301091 N * Bertl BErtl_zZ 1219301096 N * BErtl_zZ Bertl_zZ 1219301164 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1219301271 Q * Supaplex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219302185 J * dna ~dna@168-198-dsl.kielnet.net 1219303518 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1219303921 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1219304037 J * Supaplex_ ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1219304445 Q * Supaplex_ Remote host closed the connection 1219304512 J * loddafni1 ~mike@193.170.48.107 1219305132 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-65-150.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net 1219305274 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219307469 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219307498 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219308101 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219308998 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219311546 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1219313737 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-128-87.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net 1219313972 J * user ~user@athedsl-4406680.home.otenet.gr 1219313975 M * user hello world! 1219314004 N * user Guest2795 1219314028 N * Guest2795 RenOS 1219314229 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219316459 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1219316561 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu 1219316587 M * danman hi! Is it possible to run a VPN server within vserver? Emerging ppp give me errors... 1219316601 M * danman I am about to perform the steps here: http://sqls.net/wiki/HOWTO:_Linux_VPN_Server 1219316614 M * danman but I don't know whether it's possible in vserver environment 1219316670 M * daniel_hozac i run my openvpn servers in a Linux-VServer guest. 1219316771 M * daniel_hozac just remember to create and configure the interface on the host. 1219316895 M * ard 1nt! 1219316896 M * danman daniel_hozac: can I safely ignore these error messages? -> http://www.pastebin.ca/1180556 1219316919 M * danman daniel_hozac: and what do you mean by create and configure the interface on the host? 1219316930 M * danman the vserver has a seperate public IP 1219316940 M * danman created in "interfaces" dir in /etc/vservers 1219316947 M * danman that's what you mean? 1219316973 M * daniel_hozac no, i mean, set up the VPN interface there too. 1219316990 M * ard you must preconfigure the ppp interface on the host with an ip of the guest before the guest can use it for ppp 1219317007 A * ard is guessing 1219317007 M * danman hmm 1219317024 M * danman is there perhaps a howto for this? (didn't find with google) 1219317031 M * danman just in case... 1219317032 M * danman :-) 1219317097 M * danman well this is new info already, thx very much 1219317100 M * danman ! 1219317139 M * daniel_hozac i've never tried ppp, but for tun/tap you just create another directory and touch tun (or tap). 1219317167 M * ard Hmmmm 1219317186 M * weasel vserver is quite ill-suited for anything that does anything interesting with the network 1219317201 M * danman :-( 1219317227 M * ard well, it sounds just very promising for a user-space termination point of traffic that's open to the world wide interweb 1219317259 M * danman :-) 1219317268 M * ard because it can't do things the host doesn't allow it to do with the network 1219317279 M * danman yup 1219317282 M * ard it just needs a little more thinking of implementation 1219317293 M * danman well I'll have a try 1219317295 M * daniel_hozac not really. 1219317328 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1219317329 M * daniel_hozac http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12376 is all you need to run openvpn. 1219317332 M * ard danman : http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html and loot at the interfaces section and the tun tap parts that daniel_hozac mentioned 1219317384 M * ard daniel_hozac : since when is the tun / tap flag in util-vserver? 1219317397 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.215. 1219317405 A * ard just wants to know how hard he should hit his head 1219317412 M * danman :-)))) 1219317413 M * danman wow 1219317416 A * ard sighs relieved :-) 1219317417 M * danman daniel_hozac: thx very much! 1219317425 M * danman ard: for you too 1219317434 M * ard no, thank daniel_hozac :-) 1219317439 M * ard and Bertl_zZ 1219317492 M * danman :-) 1219317568 M * ard Hmmmm, this actually is very cool... 1219317639 M * ard Hmmmm, no, tis actually really is very cool... 1219317661 M * ard why do I have to work when I see lot's of openvpn possibilities to set up at home :-( 1219317696 M * daniel_hozac life is cruel. 1219317715 M * daniel_hozac (and that's why ssh was invented ;)) 1219317811 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219318066 J * Radiance ~Radiance@193.16.154.187 1219318720 M * danman :-) 1219318803 M * ard well, yes, but I have to recompile kernels and such too... 1219318805 M * ard :-) 1219318849 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1219319318 P * jordi 1219322799 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1219323041 J * bleu ~bleu@79.143.124.153 1219323107 P * bleu 1219323325 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1219323530 J * dowdle ~dowdle@71-36-197-251.blng.qwest.net 1219323598 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1219324549 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1219326380 J * ary_ ~ary@host183.200-82-96.telecom.net.ar 1219326442 N * ary_ dniel 1219327026 Q * RenOS Quit: later.... 1219328446 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1219328450 M * Bertl morning folks! 1219328475 M * hparker morning Bertl 1219328974 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.28 1219329493 M * yang hiya Bertl 1219329706 M * dniel morning Bert! 1219329715 M * dniel morning Bertl! 1219330872 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1219331955 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1219331974 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219332068 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1219332224 J * quote ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com 1219332225 M * quote hi 1219332241 M * Bertl hey! 1219332242 M * quote its possible to run a redhat guest vserver on a gentoo host server right? 1219332254 M * Bertl yep, definitely 1219332321 M * quote i've been browsing google abit, but all i found usefull was http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems - is there any place missed for some more useful info about how to create _REDHAT_ guest vserver? 1219332395 M * Bertl assuming that your 'redhat' uses yum or rpm lists 1219332425 M * Bertl the best method is to use the 'vserver build -m yum/rpm .... 1219332503 M * Bertl why do you consider the wiki page not (enough) useful? 1219332572 M * quote maybe i'm just not good at searching stuff:p 1219332642 M * dowdle Bertl: Maybe because that wiki page doesn't say Red Hat anywhere... and yum/rpm and CentOS/Fedora didn't make a bell go off for him? 1219332709 M * waldi Bertl: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/dists/sid/linux-2.6/debian/patches/features/all/vserver/vs2.3.0.35-update.patch?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 1219332775 M * Bertl waldi: you sure that is the only place where __FUNC__ is used? 1219332790 M * waldi use grep 1219332833 M * waldi it is not defined every else in the kernel nor used in the patch 1219332916 M * Bertl okay 1219332983 M * Bertl thanks 1219333029 M * Bertl hmm, how do I download that as patch from that site? 1219333082 M * waldi svn://svn.debian.org/kernel/dists/sid/linux-2.6/debian/patches/features/all/vserver/vs2.3.0.35-update.patch 1219333139 M * Bertl wget: unsupported scheme :) 1219333154 M * waldi the svn client supports it 1219333186 M * waldi netcat may do it also :) 1219333228 M * Bertl okay, if you have an url to a patch, I'll add it 1219333353 M * Bertl (with a scheme wget understands, that is) 1219333875 M * waldi http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/*checkout*/kernel/dists/sid/linux-2.6/debian/patches/features/all/vserver/vs2.3.0.35-update.patch 1219333917 M * Bertl tricky, tx! 1219334361 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219334651 M * emag so what version control system is in use here, if i wanted to track patch updates in realtime? 1219334671 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1219334679 M * Bertl the store patches on server VCS 1219334749 M * emag ah, ok, thanks. i can follow that one easy enough 1219335144 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.28 1219335346 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219336395 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.28 1219336543 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1219336633 Q * balbir 1219336652 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.28 1219337835 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180203007.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219337993 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219338175 M * meebey yay vserver linux kernel flavor is back in debian: * [i386/686-bigmem] Add VServer image. 1219338191 M * meebey * Update VServer patch to 2.3.0.35. 1219338202 M * Bertl yay for debian folks! 1219338366 M * meebey so lenny will rock :-P 1219338423 M * micah well... 1219338437 M * micah Bertl: I just tried that kernel (2.6.26) with that patch 1219338444 M * micah and starting a vserver results in: 1219338480 M * micah vc_migrate_context(): Function not implemented 1219338485 M * micah /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1219338487 M * micah ...etc 1219338498 M * micah this is a guest that was built with previous versions of the tools 1219338504 M * Bertl I heard about that, sure that isn't caused by the debian util-vserver version? 1219338507 M * micah i'll try to build a new guest to see if it changes 1219338520 M * micah Bertl: I'm not sure yet, I'm going to try a few things to isolate where it comes from 1219338523 M * Bertl nah, try with util-vserver 0.30.215 (mainline) 1219338527 M * micah ok 1219338548 M * micah was .215 released yet? I didn't see it 1219338553 M * Bertl make sure that the debian packages are uninstalled (but I guess you know ...:) 1219338572 M * Bertl we are at 0.30.216 IIRC :) 1219338598 M * micah yeah, the google foo for util-vserver is bad... directs to an ensc page that only goes to .210 :) 1219338635 M * micah sorry, I was confused with .216, which I dont think has been released yet 1219338658 M * Bertl http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200803/0032.html 1219338659 M * meebey so is the package too new now? :) 1219338674 M * meebey as it uses a svn snapshot 1219338676 M * micah yeah debian is too fast for once 1219338683 M * Bertl the 0.30.216 prerelease has/had a problem with the API version 1219338695 M * micah has that been fixed in svn? 1219338705 M * Bertl not sure, daniel_hozac has the details 1219338711 M * meebey "- A tunctl program is included, with support in the configuration. This 1219338711 M * meebey should make it easier to run openvpn and such in guests. " 1219338713 M * meebey that rocks! 1219338732 M * meebey :) I always used tunctl from uml-cfg something which was a bit dirty :-P 1219338787 M * micah yeah, the version in debian is svn r2750, and the changes since then are not api related 1219338866 M * meebey Bertl: I think there is some issue regards vserver bind mounts and noatime, I have the impression it ignores the noatime somehow... 1219338884 M * meebey trying to remember on which system I saw it.. 1219338896 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219338901 M * Bertl micah: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12377 1219338929 M * micah good! 1219339015 M * Bertl I thought you might have some luck comparing the build options and kernel falgs 1219339026 M * Bertl *flags 1219339045 M * meebey jep I can reproduce it 1219339054 M * micah ah, I thought this was you using the debian kernel 1219339070 M * Bertl ah, yes, the bind mounts changed 1219339093 M * Bertl they need two mount entries now to make a read only bind mount 1219339093 M * meebey Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12378 1219339095 M * micah i can't run the testme until I get the utilities to work :) 1219339114 M * meebey Bertl: it doesnt need to be read-only, just has to honor the noatime :) 1219339120 M * quote Hm i get 'mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist 1219339127 M * Bertl mainline decided that such things need a remount 1219339132 M * quote when tryin to create that guest:) 1219339143 M * quote but i emerged rpm, why that hell isnt itthere 1219339149 M * Bertl quote: that sounds like a broken rpm package 1219339157 M * Bertl quote: simply create that directory 1219339171 M * meebey Bertl: outside the vserver the noatime is working 1219339195 M * meebey as in, its not updating the atime 1219339208 M * meebey inside the vserver it updates the atime 1219339230 M * meebey but thats debian/stable, so mabye thats already fixed... 1219339245 M * quote strange 1219339246 M * quote error: can't create transaction lock on /vservers/test 1219339247 M * quote /tmp/vserver-build.rpm.manifest.eEbkIP: not an rpm package (or package manifest): 1219339289 M * Bertl meebey: inside or outside doesn't matter, if you do the mounts the same, the result will be the same 1219339313 M * meebey Bertl: oh you mean I need to include the noatime in the fstab of the vserver too? 1219339329 M * Bertl meebey: there are no Linux-VServer related changes to the mounts anymore, except for the nodev addition 1219339339 M * Bertl in the fstab in the guest config, yes 1219339343 M * meebey ah ic 1219339366 M * meebey I thought its a plain bind, which doesnt need to re-specify the flags IIRC 1219339379 A * meebey adds noatime in the fstab of the vserver 1219339387 M * Bertl nah, by default, a bind mount has no options 1219339388 M * micah i did see daniel_hozac say here a few days back that he still uses 2.6.22, I wonder if he's tested on any of the newer kernels 1219339391 M * micah probably has 1219339404 M * Bertl meebey: and since 2.6.26, you need to add those options with a remount 1219339415 M * meebey Bertl: ah ic 1219339438 M * meebey Bertl: can I remount it without restarting the vserver now? 1219339442 M * meebey changed the fstab entry... 1219339462 M * Bertl meebey: yep, just enter the namespace 1219339540 M * meebey Bertl: re-entering the vserver wasn't enough, still updates... 1219339577 M * Bertl you need to do a vnamespace ... and a remount, with the new options 1219339585 M * meebey ah ic 1219339628 M * micah ok, so the debian 0.30.215 util-vserver is working... 1219339710 M * meebey Bertl: works, thanks a bunch! 1219339726 M * Bertl micah: with 2.6.26.x-vs2.3.0.35 for you? 1219339736 M * meebey I expected that bind retains the options... but ok, issue was on my side :) 1219339744 M * micah Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12379 1219339758 M * micah Bertl: yes 1219339768 M * Bertl okay, good, what was the problem? 1219339821 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.28 1219339833 M * micah Bertl: well, using the svn snapshot is the problem at the moment... I'm going to try and build the utilities without any debian intervention from svn and see if there are any changes 1219339859 M * Bertl okay, not sure it is fixed there yet though 1219339898 M * Bertl daniel_hozac expected the PID space support in API 2.3.3, but I delayed it to API 2.3.4 version 1219339918 M * Bertl (but should be easy to patch, btw) 1219340539 M * micah perhaps I will wait to hear from daniel_hozac 1219340624 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B40DB.dip.t-dialin.net 1219340936 J * ViRUS_ ~mp@p579B41CD.dip.t-dialin.net 1219341011 M * daniel_hozac the 2.6.2[56] kernels i've tested use pid namespaces. 1219341127 M * micah daniel_hozac: ok, so I should try to build a non-debian version of your latest 0.216rc 1219341140 M * micah where can I get that tarball again? 1219341210 M * daniel_hozac it's not going to change anything. 1219341225 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: should i just bump the API requirement? 1219341234 M * Bertl yes, that would be helpful 1219341246 M * Bertl 2.3.4 will have the PID support 1219341266 M * micah ah, i misunderstood then 1219341368 Q * ViRUS Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219342161 Q * quasisane Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219342275 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-68-62-13.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1219342762 M * daniel_hozac micah: give me a day or two and i'll have a new pre ready. 1219342778 M * micah daniel_hozac: np, let me know 1219342791 M * micah thanks for your work on it 1219342791 M * daniel_hozac (with the cgroup stuff too) 1219343683 M * nebuchadnezzar I have something strange, when trying to use bash completion in a newly created vserver I got "bash: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory" 1219343684 M * nebuchadnezzar :-/ 1219343709 M * Bertl create a symlink to /proc/fd 1219343715 M * daniel_hozac fixed in trunk. 1219343718 M * nebuchadnezzar ok thanks 1219343720 M * micah nebuchadnezzar: you either need new enough tools, or... 1219343724 M * micah you guys are faster than me :) 1219343819 M * nebuchadnezzar ho, I have no /proc/fd :-/ 1219343863 M * daniel_hozac /proc/self/fd 1219343899 M * nebuchadnezzar ok, thanks 1219343966 M * nebuchadnezzar micah: I use 0.30.215 something about pid namespace ;-) 1219344153 Q * dniel Quit: Saliendo 1219345780 M * nebuchadnezzar http://pastebin.com/m4ed541ff <-- does it speak to someone ? 1219345807 M * daniel_hozac fixed in trunk. 1219345808 M * daniel_hozac :) 1219345901 M * nebuchadnezzar ha ok 1219345977 J * TrueBrain truebrain@85.17.162.188 1219346024 M * TrueBrain Hi all :) Today I have a stupid question: I have a mount inside a vserver (for a vast amount of files we need to publish) .. is there an easy way to make it visible from within the vserver how much space is left on that drive? (and that is is mounted). That all on a running vserver ;) 1219346046 M * Bertl df? 1219346065 M * TrueBrain well, inside the vserver it is not in 'mtab' of course 1219346073 M * daniel_hozac why not? 1219346081 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver certainly puts it there. 1219346083 M * Bertl but it is mounted inside the guest namespace, yes? 1219346085 M * TrueBrain because I have no idea how to get it there ;) 1219346089 M * TrueBrain Bertl: yes 1219346096 M * TrueBrain daniel_hozac: I mounted it after the server started 1219346097 M * Bertl use vi/pico/emacs :) 1219346109 M * TrueBrain but what to put there ;) There isn't a real /dev/ device 1219346115 M * daniel_hozac that doesn't matter. 1219346125 M * Bertl doesn't matter, put something similar to / there 1219346168 M * TrueBrain perfect :) 1219346174 M * TrueBrain I knew it had to be something simle :) 1219346175 M * TrueBrain simple 1219346178 M * TrueBrain tnx a lot guys! 1219346222 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1219346245 M * TrueBrain sometimes you can browse the internet for ages, where you guys just have the answer in seconds :p It is hard to use google for such search strings .. :( 1219346265 M * Bertl ... yet :) 1219346377 M * Guy- TrueBrain: you could just do df /path/to/mountpoint/or/directory/inside/it 1219346390 M * Guy- that works even if the fs is not in mtab 1219346397 M * Bertl yep, correct 1219346426 M * TrueBrain Guy-: try to tell that to my users .. ;) 1219346434 M * TrueBrain hitting 'df -h' is all they understand :) 1219346446 M * Guy- how about "df -h ."? 1219346473 M * TrueBrain well, adding it to mtab avoids all problems ;) But tnx anyway :) 1219346478 M * Guy- sure 1219346886 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1219347098 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1219347102 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1219347443 Q * pisco__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219348208 J * pisco_ ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219348871 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1219349464 P * TrueBrain So long and tnx for all the fish 1219349937 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1219351101 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219351254 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1219351422 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219351422 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219351422 J * dowdle_ ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1219351422 Q * dowdle Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219351433 N * Hollow_ Hollow 1219352186 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-220-221-184.bhm.bellsouth.net 1219352451 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-65-150.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net 1219353895 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1219356687 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1219356725 J * SlackLnX ~Lee@bl7-147-43.dsl.telepac.pt 1219356909 Q * SlackLnX Remote host closed the connection 1219357127 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1219360591 Q * ViRUS_ Quit: Leaving