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1219206816 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1219206821 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1219207995 J * lownoize ~lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de
1219209687 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
1219209715 Q * nkukard 
1219209739 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
1219210394 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-66-195.231210.adsl.tele2.no
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1219213002 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA]
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1219215975 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1219216381 M * fanto666 what's 
1219216956 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1219217268 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
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1219218975 N * grobie` grobie
1219220021 N * pmenier_off pmenier
1219220232 J * quote ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1219220233 M * quote hi
1219220243 M * quote I'm tryin to create debian vserver with the command
1219220255 M * quote vserver gameserv build -m debootstrap --context 1003 --hostname gameserver --interface eth0:91.185.202.3/29 --rootdir /vservers2 -- -d etch -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386
1219220262 M * quote which is ok, i guess
1219220265 M * quote but i get an error
1219220274 M * quote W: Failure trying to run: chroot /vservers2/gameserv mount -t proc proc /proc
1219220296 M * daniel_hozac grsec?
1219220346 M * quote am i using grsec for kernel? nope
1219220378 M * daniel_hozac what other output do you get?
1219220442 P * TrueBrain So long and tnx for all the fish
1219220471 M * quote someitmes i get 
1219220472 M * quote W: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_i386.deb was corrupt
1219220473 M * quote W: Couldn't download package libc6
1219220475 M * quote things like that
1219220489 M * quote i'm beginning to think my whole system is corrupt
1219220521 M * quote its like sometimes it gets it done, and most of the time it doesnt
1219220531 M * Supaplex try a different mirror?
1219220535 M * quote how?
1219220543 M * quote i mean
1219220546 M * quote where do i find em:p
1219220584 M * daniel_hozac try google...
1219220593 M * Supaplex or /query dpkg mirrors
1219220594 M * quote right;)
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1219221898 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180222085.adsl.alicedsl.de
1219222480 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1219223531 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1219225469 J * dna ~dna@250-200-dsl.kielnet.net
1219226610 M * quote argh
1219226868 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219228176 M * ard quote : http://ftp.<insert country>.debian.org/
1219228192 M * ard you must try hard to insert a country that doesn't exist
1219228230 M * sid3windr ardistan?
1219228232 M * sid3windr :>
1219228277 M * Wonka iq
1219228280 M * Wonka not that hard
1219228294 M * Wonka also ir, il
1219228310 M * ard but those aren't countries?
1219228313 M * ard or?
1219228322 M * Wonka iraq, iran, israel
1219228327 M * ard ah.. c00l
1219228344 M * Wonka hehe, iceland (is) does exist
1219228357 M * ktwilight am sure my won't exist.
1219228382 M * ard :-)
1219228395 M * ard so that's 4 already
1219228409 A * ard probably has a limited view on the world ;-)
1219228437 M * Wonka no cn, either
1219228449 M * Wonka oh. no in either.
1219228820 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1219232979 J * jordi ~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net
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1219234314 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.48.107
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1219240610 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1219240613 M * Bertl morning folks!
1219241036 M * pmenier morning :)
1219241306 J * Hurga ~foest@h-213.61.155.114.host.de.colt.net
1219241874 M * Hurga Any idea how to get rid of the "Not cloning cgroup for unused subsystem ns" message?
1219241913 P * Eimann 
1219242029 M * Bertl disable cgroups for example?
1219242241 A * Hurga fails to find anything about "cgroups" on http://linux-vserver.org/ :(
1219242253 M * Bertl it is a mainline thing
1219242268 M * Bertl i.e. it comes with the kernel.org kernels :)
1219242297 M * Hurga argh. That explains it. :P
1219242346 M * Hurga Thanks. :)
1219242350 M * Bertl np
1219242486 M * Hurga BTW, I remember that the devs don't like Ubuntu and told me vserver support for Ubuntu is "broken". So far it seems to work quite fine for me. Are there some non-obvious problems, or am I missing something?
1219242511 M * Mr_Smoke Hurga: maybe the fact that Ubuntu is broken :)
1219242515 A * Mr_Smoke ducks into a corner
1219242522 M * Hurga WFM
1219242530 M * Bertl Hurga: yep, ubuntu is pretty broken
1219242533 M * Hurga *shrug*
1219242543 M * Bertl and I wouldn't even think about using it on a _server_
1219242648 M * Hurga Works for me. And did for the last few years even. But I don't want to discuss the merits of different OSes... just tell me what's the issue WRT linux-vserver.
1219242683 M * Bertl first, gcc seems to be broken, so you cannot compile util-vserver properly
1219242695 M * Bertl second, dietlibc seems to be broken (as distributed)
1219242724 M * Bertl there were some more issues we discovered, you have to google for that though
1219242778 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219242815 M * Bertl Hurga: but you realize, that ubuntu is a desktop distro, yes?
1219242893 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@28.117-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1219242910 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1219242927 M * Hurga Not really. What defines "desktop distro"? 
1219242928 M * Bertl okay, have to grab some groceries ... bbl
1219242935 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1219242993 M * Hurga Main selling point for me is how long the LTS versions are supported.
1219243073 M * sid3windr supported != working :p
1219243197 M * Hurga as I said, works for me... and I even avoided the Debian weak keys fiasco by using only the dapper and hardy. (ok, that was more luck than anything, but still)
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1219246074 M * Hurga is patch-2.6.25.15-vs2.3.0.35.diff usable? Seems to work fine, I mean, are there any issues or features missing from it?
1219247059 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1219247071 M * Bertl missing features, but no known bugs/issues
1219247169 M * Bertl Hurga: desktop distros are tailored to fit as many desktop needs as possible (which include latest drivers, fancy gui stuff, etc.)
1219247202 M * Bertl Hurga: a server setup has completely different requirements and is _much_ better off with a server kernel and tools
1219247683 M * Hurga like linux-image-2.6.24-19-server I guess.
1219247809 M * Hurga and for linux-vserver I'm compiling my own kernel anyway.
1219248330 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1219248528 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch
1219249090 M * Bertl Hurga: just answering your (original) question, I'm not the guy telling you _what_ you should do :)
1219249144 M * Bertl after all, Linux lets you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot, and so do we :)
1219249236 M * Hurga sure. Well, you'll get bug reports from me in case linux-2.6.25.15-vs2.3.0.35 on Ubutu Hardy with Hardy guests should misbehave :)
1219249549 M * Bertl don't forget to test with mainline util-vserver, or otherwise you need to report to the package maintainer
1219249598 M * Hurga had an autoconf problem with that one. :P
1219250073 M * Bertl no way! :)
1219250109 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
1219250344 J * jmcaricand jm@227.176.80-79.rev.gaoland.net
1219250377 Q * jmcaricand 
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1219251777 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1219252646 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1219253165 J * __gh__ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50
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1219255330 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what's our status with the 'gentoo' build target?
1219255350 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1219255376 M * Bertl I'm referring to the ML question: how to get recent gentoo guests
1219255437 M * daniel_hozac AFAIK, any official gentoo stage3 should do the trick.
1219255457 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.21.12
1219255465 M * daniel_hozac as long as you make the context persistent to install some kind of service.
1219255478 M * daniel_hozac (which is where Hollow's stage4s come in)
1219255624 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.206.113
1219255693 J * Tooom ~toom@rejna.docisland.org
1219255750 M * Tooom hi
1219255801 M * Bertl welcome Tooom!
1219255832 M * Tooom I've just recompile my kernel (2.6.26.2 with vserver 2.3.0.35) and I can't start my vservers
1219255837 M * Tooom thx :)
1219255857 M * Bertl what util-vserver version?
1219255858 M * Tooom the message is "vc_migrate_context(): Function not implemented"
1219255876 M * Tooom 0.30.216
1219255893 Q * doener_ Quit: leaving
1219255915 M * Tooom I get also "/proc/uptime can not be accessed"
1219255925 M * Bertl give testme.sh a spin and upload the output to paste.linux-vserver.org
1219255949 M * Bertl would point to vprocunhide not being run on system startup
1219256073 M * Tooom ok, I'll be back
1219256075 M * Tooom thx
1219256090 M * Tooom I need to reboot
1219256106 P * Tooom 
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1219259092 J * Beuc ~yo@82.238.35.175
1219259546 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1219259841 M * Beuc daniel_hozac: Hi.
1219259848 M * Beuc daniel_hozac: About bootstrapping a Fedora, do you happen to know about "rinse" http://xen-tools.org/software/rinse/
1219259868 J * Tooom ~toom@rejna.docisland.org
1219259869 M * Beuc It works fine, though it lacks the util-vserver post-install.
1219259949 M * daniel_hozac what's the point?
1219259952 M * daniel_hozac yum works fine.
1219259994 M * Tooom Bertl: I run testme.sh => http://dark-code.bulix.org/go6w3x-68108
1219260037 M * Beuc The point, as far as I'm concerned, is that I don't get weird errors from vyum :)
1219260067 M * Beuc But maybe I don't know about yum bootstrapping enough.
1219260095 M * Tooom I still have the same error (vc_migrate_context(): Function not implemented)
1219260131 M * Bertl did you configure the kernel yourself?
1219260132 M * daniel_hozac Beuc: because it's not doing it in a secure fashion.
1219260140 M * Tooom Bertl: yes
1219260188 M * Bertl please do a 'grep VSERVER .config' or 'zgrep VSERVER /proc/config.gz'
1219260192 M * Bertl (and upload too)
1219260251 M * Tooom Bertl: http://dark-code.bulix.org/empe5d-68109
1219260335 M * Bertl hmm, that looks a little weird
1219260367 M * Bertl anyway, what does 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' give you? (please upload too)
1219260368 M * Beuc daniel_hozac: is there an easy way to bootstrap using yum independantly of util-vserver? (like you can use 'debootstrap' for other purposes too)
1219260408 M * daniel_hozac yum --installroot=/path/to/whatever install initscripts
1219260423 M * Beuc Let's try :)
1219260448 M * daniel_hozac requires, of course, that you have a configuration file with the correct repositories and such.
1219260490 M * Beuc You essentially alter your main yum configuration to select the distro version, right?
1219260530 M * daniel_hozac i'd prefer pointing it at a different configuration altogether, but that's just me.
1219260587 M * Tooom Bertl: I reboot to give you the result of "vserver-info - SYSINFO"; brb
1219260598 P * Tooom 
1219260612 M * Bertl hmm, strange, why does he reboot everytime?
1219260635 J * Tooom ~toom@rejna.docisland.org
1219260688 M * Tooom Bertl: I'm sorry I loose the command in my pastebin, can you give it again ?
1219260750 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2008-08/LOG_2008-08-20.txt
1219260769 M * Tooom thx :)
1219260775 P * Tooom 
1219260849 M * Beuc daniel_hozac: ok, so one point in favor of rinse is: you don't need to fiddle with configuration files when you're not under Fedora - a one-liner is enough ;)
1219260872 M * daniel_hozac same is true when you use util-vserver.
1219260943 Q * quote Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219260968 M * Beuc except that util-vserver didn't work in Etch and Lenny - or to the least I failed to make it do
1219260999 M * daniel_hozac worked fine the last time i tried.
1219261063 J * pisco__ ~pisco@tor.noreply.org
1219261078 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219261110 M * Beuc daniel_hozac: it occurs to me: is it supposed to work with vs2.3?
1219261124 M * daniel_hozac 2.3 is all i run.
1219261161 M * Beuc damn, we'll I'd like to know what is so wrong here
1219261168 M * Beuc here -> on my comps
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1219261306 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219261473 J * Tooom ~toom@rejna.docisland.org
1219261529 M * Tooom Bertl: vserver-info - SYSINFO =>  http://dark-code.bulix.org/gk4s55-68110
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1219261824 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-99-236.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
1219262046 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50
1219262237 J * __gh__ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50
1219262353 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any idea to the issue Tooom is seeing?
1219262434 J * doener ~doener@i577B97AF.versanet.de
1219262449 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219262806 M * daniel_hozac pid space thing?
1219263059 M * Tooom Bertl: I enable all namespace features (except network) in my kernel
1219263076 M * Tooom there is a link between namespace and vserver ?
1219263281 M * Bertl ah, then try to disable the PID space
1219263386 M * Tooom ok, I try that
1219263902 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1219264099 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3BF84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1219264117 J * esa bip@62.123.8.120
1219264269 J * dna ~dna@186-210-dsl.kielnet.net
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1219264812 P * Tooom 
1219265292 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1219265383 J * Tooom ~toom@82.229.219.43
1219265423 M * Tooom Bertl: disable PID namespaces doesn't change anything
1219265465 M * Bertl where does the util-vserver come from?
1219265489 M * Bertl i.e. did you build it yourself?
1219265489 M * Tooom from debian repository (sid)
1219265502 J * esa bip@62.123.8.120
1219265526 M * Bertl no idea, I'd try with building 0.30.215 from scratch
1219265549 M * Bertl but if you do so, please remove the debian package first, to avoid having two versions installed
1219265583 M * Bertl if the issue is there with vanilla 0.30.215, we'll investigate
1219265622 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1219265635 M * Tooom before compiling 2.6.26.2 I ran 2.6.22.19 (with vs 2.3.0.34) and it works perfectly
1219265654 J * dna ~dna@186-210-dsl.kielnet.net
1219265669 M * Tooom Bertl: I try to compile util-verser
1219265674 M * Bertl my best guess is that this util-vserver version, although it claims to be 0.30.215 has patches from 0.30.216
1219265688 M * Tooom ok
1219265699 M * Bertl which do not handle the API version (new in 2.6.25/26) properly
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1219266375 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@93.71-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
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1219267826 P * Tooom 
1219267900 J * edwin ~edwin@195-240-117-214.ip.telfort.nl
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1219267975 M * edwin Hi
1219267990 M * Bertl hey!
1219268074 M * edwin i have a question about installing ipcop inside a vserver, is this the right place to ask?
1219268083 M * Bertl sure
1219268168 M * daniel_hozac doesn't make much sense to run something like that in a Linux-VServer guest though.
1219268204 M * edwin are there any howto's available on this topic?
1219268226 M * Bertl nope, you want to run it on the host, if anywhere
1219268385 M * edwin can i install vserver on ipcop ?,i  want to create a firewall/fileserver
1219268427 M * Bertl as ipcop is userspace, I don't see a problem to run in on a Linux-VServer kernel
1219268442 M * Bertl i.e. you can have it running on the host, and put other stuff into guests
1219268713 M * edwin that sound like a good idea, something like sme-server or clarkconnect
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1219271144 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B40DB.dip.t-dialin.net
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