1219105222 J * __gh__ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50 1219105852 J * doener ~doener@i577B8253.versanet.de 1219105957 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219107518 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219107911 Q * matti Remote host closed the connection 1219108342 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219108619 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1219109459 Q * matti Remote host closed the connection 1219109665 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1219110056 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219110703 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.242.6 1219112101 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219112756 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.247.96 1219113073 Q * geb Quit: Quitte 1219113802 Q * Radiance Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219114959 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1219115323 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-99-236.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1219117058 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219120627 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1219120627 T * ChanServ - 1219123444 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya! 1219123455 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1219124563 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180207087.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219125649 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1219126789 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1219126930 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219127860 J * MicroProz ~Miranda@static-57-112-46-212.b2bdsl.de 1219129365 J * dna ~dna@8-216-dsl.kielnet.net 1219129700 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219129783 Q * Pazzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219130000 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection 1219130016 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219130088 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1219130330 M * MicroProz hi @ all 1219130381 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219130382 M * MicroProz is this channel german or english ? 1219130785 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1219131084 M * bragon English 1219131093 M * MicroProz ok, thank you 1219131185 M * MicroProz i want to use OpenSuSE 10.2 as a guest in linux-vserver kernel 2.6.22.19/patch vs2.2.0.7 and util-vserver 0.30.215 1219131275 M * MicroProz Have anybody a working OpenSuSE 10.2 system as a guest ? I have big trouble to create one. Problems come from /proc and no /sys directory by exaample. 1219131302 M * MicroProz and problems with CONSOLE / REDIRECT / stty 1219131514 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1219131560 M * MicroProz are no people active in this channel ? 1219131649 M * blathijs MicroProz: You'll have to wait a bit for people to respond 1219131660 M * blathijs MicroProz: But I've never touched SuSE, so can't help you out 1219131738 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51 1219132252 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.203.250 1219132257 M * MicroProz ok, thank you blathijs 1219133035 Q * MicroProz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219133593 J * MicroProz ~Miranda@static-57-112-46-212.b2bdsl.de 1219133990 M * MicroProz please give me a feedback if someone is online with the experience OpenSuse 10.2 as a guest in linux-vserver 1219134431 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-011.ethz.ch 1219135130 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.48.107 1219136605 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@28.117-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1219136723 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219136883 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@28.117-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1219137176 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219137353 M * MicroProz is it possible to mount sysfs within a guest ? 1219137874 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1219139116 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219140010 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1219140602 M * MicroProz hm over 100 users here and no one is active :-( 1219141736 J * vargadanis ~vargadani@catv-598710d9.catv.broadband.hu 1219141805 M * vargadanis this not in connection with vserver at all but still I need help... if you are familiar with bison/flex, please send me a private message ^_^ 1219141891 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219142171 M * blathijs MicroProz: Yes, I think that should be possible 1219142235 M * blathijs Hmm, though I don't have that currently in my vservers. You should add /sys to /etc/vservers//fstab to get it mounted inside the vserver I think (where is the vserver's name) 1219142403 M * MicroProz ok, i test this way. thanks for the info ! 1219142557 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.67 1219142724 M * MicroProz hm, yes, this works. Now i have /sys but inside are now all interfaces of the host system. my init script (network) looks in /sys/class/net for the network devices. but the guest have only one eth (eth0) and this is differen from host eth0. have someone an idea for me ? 1219142775 M * blathijs MicroProz: I don't think you need to setup your networking inside the guest, actually 1219142789 M * blathijs You'll just get one interface with a fixed IP, and the host will take care of routing 1219142792 M * blathijs AFAIK 1219142871 M * MicroProz yes, that i see, but by exmple the lo device don't come up ... 1219143011 P * vargadanis Távozom 1219143120 M * blathijs MicroProz: I think that's supposed to happen 1219143239 M * blathijs MicroProz: AFAIK, 127.0.0.1 will get directed to the right place anyway (though ping doesn't seem to work) 1219143279 M * MicroProz hm, ok. but if a user is restart the network init script .... -> crash .... i think, tht is not the best way ... 1219143314 M * blathijs Well, you just can't do real network configuration inside a guest 1219143324 M * blathijs So you shouldn't try to 1219143352 M * blathijs Most build methods (ie, vserver scripts) disable the networking init scripts after vserver creation 1219144078 M * MicroProz hm, ok. I have a vserver from server4you, here i have all like a normal server. But they use virtuzzo .... 1219144122 M * pmjdebruijn MicroProz: same concept, different implementation 1219144572 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-128-87.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net 1219146045 M * blathijs MicroProz: But virtuozzo uses a slightly different concept for networking, you get a virtual device there which you can manage normally. Vserver leaves that in the host system 1219146154 M * MicroProz jap, so is it. I need to read more doc about configure the guest from the host. But i found no good informations .... 1219146895 Q * AndrewLee Remote host closed the connection 1219147504 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1219147898 Q * MicroProz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219148727 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1219148755 J * MicroProz ~Miranda@static-57-112-46-212.b2bdsl.de 1219149334 M * blathijs MicroProz: You can look around in the /etc/vserver directory, there most vserver configuration happens 1219149362 M * blathijs MicroProz: Also, the "flower page" contains a description of the files in there, it's linked from the wiki somewhere 1219149519 M * MicroProz thank you. this site i have found, but there are only smal docs to the items. but ok, there is no more ... is there are a example of an vhost config, so i can see, how the config is in these files ? at this time, i have not found an example guest config :-( 1219150184 M * daniel_hozac because vserver ... build sets up all the essential entries. 1219151044 M * MicroProz hm, i think not. By example, how can i set the default gateway by /etc/vserver/guest config ? or set i this param inside the vserver guest ? 1219151087 M * daniel_hozac guests do not have a gateway. 1219151093 M * daniel_hozac so, you can't set it. 1219151165 M * MicroProz what ? do i not need to route the traffic inside the guest, to the host as gateway ? 1219151192 M * daniel_hozac networking happens on the host. guests are just limited to a subset of the IP addresses. 1219151226 M * MicroProz hm, ok. 1219151248 M * MicroProz so the guest have only his ip and nothing else, right ? 1219151264 M * MicroProz the forwarding of packets i do with snat on the host 1219151269 M * MicroProz ? 1219151273 M * daniel_hozac there is no forwarding of packets. 1219151300 M * MicroProz hm, when the guest send packets to the inet by example, 1219151303 M * daniel_hozac you can use SNAT to change the guest's IP to something else for outgoing packets, if you need to. 1219151324 M * MicroProz the packet goes to his eth0 an direct out ? 1219151325 M * daniel_hozac but it's no different from giving the host a private IP. 1219151371 M * daniel_hozac everything works as it normally does in Linux. 1219151384 M * MicroProz hm, ok. yes i want some vhosts, for different services like mail dns and so on. for these i dont use a public ip. my public ip's i use for other vservers 1219151399 M * MicroProz daniel do you seak german ? 1219151403 M * MicroProz speak 1219151405 M * daniel_hozac no. 1219151408 M * MicroProz ok 1219151552 M * MicroProz how can i set up the lo device on the quest ? with host config, or in guest ? 1219151608 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1219151619 M * daniel_hozac if you're using Linux-VServer <2.3, you don't. 1219151823 M * MicroProz so there is no lo device on the quest ? i use 2.2.07 1219151839 M * daniel_hozac then no. 1219151840 M * MicroProz the latest stable .. 1219151845 M * MicroProz ok 1219151858 M * MicroProz is it normal, that i see the same routing table as on the host ? 1219151872 M * daniel_hozac of course. 1219151878 M * MicroProz hm, ok 1219151898 M * daniel_hozac as i said, networking is a host thing. 1219152090 M * MicroProz ok, i understand ... in guest is all the same, as on the host 1219152318 M * MicroProz at this point i dither to test openvz :-( 1219153735 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219154746 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1219154750 M * Bertl morning folks! 1219154847 Q * MicroProz Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1219154881 M * Bertl blathijs: ping doesn't work? 1219154903 M * blathijs Bertl: ping 127.0.0.1 didn't, ping 10.something did 1219155024 M * Bertl you are on vs2.3 and have lback mapping enabled? 1219155054 M * Bertl (and single IP special casing disabled, of course) 1219155594 M * blathijs Uh.. 1219155617 M * blathijs I'm on most recent stable, so 2.2 I guess, with grsec and fairly default configuration 1219155632 M * Bertl okay, the why do you ping 127.0.0.1? 1219155651 M * Bertl if /etc/hosts is configured properly, you can 'ping localhost' 1219156494 M * blathijs Yeah, I know. It's not a problem in any way, but I was just testing (since MicroProz was trying to setup his lo and I wouldn't want him to think stuff was broken because he couldn't ping 127.0.0.1) 1219157470 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1219159549 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1219161930 J * Shadow ~Sh4d0w191@92.9.191.11 1219162027 Q * Shadow Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22.2 1219162866 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1219162907 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1219163004 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1219164169 J * fanto666 fantomas@fantomas.fantomas.sk 1219164209 M * fanto666 Hello, which kernel option affects lsof? I've had problems with it... is that CONFIG_VSERVER_PRIVACY? 1219164401 M * Bertl hmm? 1219164418 M * Bertl what kind of problems do you have with lsof? 1219164570 M * fanto666 lsof shows "(stat: Permission denied)" when running is on process in vserver 1219164585 M * fanto666 I've tried chcontext --ctx 1 and even context number of that vhost... 1219164651 M * Bertl what kernel/patch version do you use? 1219164657 M * fanto666 2.6.22-vs2.2.0.6-gentoo 1219164705 M * Bertl won't hurt to update that, but could you upload the output of 'strace -fF lsof ...' inside the guest? 1219164712 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1219164778 M * fanto666 I think 6590 lines is way too much even 1219164841 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219164916 M * fanto666 26716 stat("/vservers/cartman/home/customers", 0x7fff21ad4de0) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) 1219164918 M * fanto666 hmmm 1219164938 M * fanto666 ls: cannot access /vservers/cartman/home/customers: Permission denied 1219164990 M * fanto666 that may be the, how it's called... chroot barrier? 1219165025 M * Bertl why would an lsof _inside_ the guest try to access someting in /vservers? 1219165032 J * SlacKLnX ~Lee@bl7-147-43.dsl.telepac.pt 1219165033 N * pmenier pmenier_off 1219165050 M * fanto666 I'm gonna have some guests that have no lsof installed (nothing but apache and required libs etc) 1219165066 M * fanto666 how should I check for bbarrier setting? 1219165087 M * fanto666 aha, showattr 1219165088 M * Bertl the barrier will not block root on the host 1219165123 M * fanto666 not on the host but I won't see process from the host, only from 1 or the vhost... right? 1219165180 M * fanto666 and if I change contaxt, the barrier should work, correct? 1219165186 M * Bertl yep, correct 1219165201 M * Bertl you want to locate yourself in a chroot then too 1219165212 M * Bertl (otherwise all kind of things might be wrong) 1219165226 M * fanto666 yes, but since I don't have lsof in the chroot... 1219165261 M * fanto666 couldn't context 1 avoit the barrier as does the host ? 1219165263 M * Bertl well, you probably need to rewrite lsof to work outside of chroots 1219165275 M * Bertl (and use data inside those chroots only) 1219165299 M * fanto666 pardon? 1219165326 M * Bertl you are trying to use lsof without lsof being installed 1219165341 M * fanto666 it is installed in the host, not in the vhost... 1219165365 M * Bertl then restrict yourself to xid=0 and xid=1 (and nix=1 of course) 1219165371 M * Bertl *nid 1219165390 M * fanto666 how do you mean it? 1219165411 M * Bertl look, processes _inside_ the guest are started in a chroot 1219165426 M * fanto666 yes... 1219165428 M * Bertl they also use a private namespace and a private pid context 1219165453 M * Bertl if you want to get data from _inside_ the guest, you need to copy/install the lsof 1219165468 M * Bertl if you want to get data _about_ the system, the lsof on the host is fine 1219165497 M * Bertl using the spectator context(s) will show you all guests and should work fine for lsof on the host 1219165537 M * fanto666 using the spectators (chcontext --ctx 1) had the same problem, I guess because of the chroot barrier 1219165567 M * Bertl then your barrier is probably wrong 1219165594 M * fanto666 std barrier as created by vserver scripts 1219165603 M * fanto666 hmmm I'll check later, gotta go home. 1219165607 M * Bertl k 1219165610 M * fanto666 bertl thanks for hints 1219165614 M * Bertl np 1219168096 Q * __gh__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219168097 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219168352 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1219168878 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3AEAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1219169213 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1219169332 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-151-1-54-90.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr 1219169433 M * geb hi 1219169791 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1219169841 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-88-152-109-230.hsi.ish.de 1219170794 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@166.129.49.37 1219171116 J * TrueBrain truebrain@80.247.163.158 1219171131 M * TrueBrain Hi all! Are there debian packages with vserver 2.3.0.34 available? 1219171187 Q * _gh_ Remote host closed the connection 1219171397 M * geb 2.6.25-2-vserver-686 is 2.3.x.x but i don't know what's x.x 1219171411 M * geb earth% sudo vserver-info 1219171411 M * geb Versions: 1219171411 M * geb Kernel: 2.6.25-2-vserver-686 1219171411 M * geb VS-API: 0x00020302 1219171411 M * geb util-vserver: 0.30.215; Aug 1 2008, 01:13:33 1219171472 M * geb the .deb should be on lenny 1219171486 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50 1219171517 M * TrueBrain and what vserver is it? :p 1219171528 M * TrueBrain and how come debian has a 'patch' against 2.6.25, while latest shows 2.6.22? :) 1219171539 M * geb latest stable 1219171650 M * geb but you 're right the patch isn't on http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.3/testing/ 1219171671 M * TrueBrain so it feels a bit odd, if you ask me 1219171722 M * geb it is on http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1219171799 M * geb why ? it is just a development / experimental patch 1219171839 M * geb only available in the "testing" branch of debian, not stable 1219171852 M * geb but i bet some use it in production ;) 1219171862 M * TrueBrain that is a good point :) 1219171875 M * TrueBrain anyway, I was more hoping on finding 2.6.22 debian package with 2.3.0.34 1219171903 M * TrueBrain compiling our own fails for now, and as we don't have a console ... nobody knows why ;) But okay :) 1219171940 P * rcatwood 1219171950 M * geb i don't understand ? you don't have a console ? 1219171976 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219171976 M * TrueBrain as in: only ssh 1219171984 M * TrueBrain so any boot-up failure .. well .. failure 1219171995 M * geb qemu is your friend :) 1219172015 M * geb there is a 2.6.22 package on debian with vserver 2.2 1219172020 M * geb should be more stable 1219172049 M * TrueBrain and how is qemu going to help us on kernels? :) Really, I mean .. the kernel we compile our own somehow misses something (which nobody knows) 1219172054 M * TrueBrain qemu isn't going to help ;) 1219172058 M * TrueBrain and we need 2.3 1219172066 M * TrueBrain (hence the question ;)) 1219172168 M * geb you can create a virtual machin with qemu and try your kernel on 1219172215 M * TrueBrain and qemu .. simulates hardware 1219172224 M * TrueBrain so how would we find out what problem the kernel has on the real hardware? 1219172279 M * Bertl TrueBrain: via the console :) 1219172313 M * Bertl but you have a bunch of options actually, what do you do when the bootup on the real hardware fails? 1219172320 M * TrueBrain Bertl: grub failover 1219172339 M * TrueBrain so we can test a kernel, without being screwed completely ;) 1219172417 M * Bertl okay, any machine in the same network? 1219172426 M * TrueBrain sadly enough, no 1219172429 M * TrueBrain so netconsole doesn't work 1219172440 M * Bertl any machine nearby? 1219172445 M * TrueBrain (why doesn't netconsole allow gateway? :) 1219172461 M * TrueBrain well, 'nearby' as in the same DC, but not on the same backbone 1219172465 M * Bertl actually it allows for gateways too, but need proper support 1219172487 M * Bertl okay, how far away are the machines from eachother? 1219172493 M * TrueBrain 10 feet ;) 1219172508 M * Bertl well, that would opt for a serial console between them 1219172518 M * TrueBrain we are not allowed to open the cage of the one we try to configure 1219172520 M * Bertl (for now and future issues) 1219172522 M * TrueBrain which is a big problem .. 1219172574 M * Bertl well, serial console needs a serial port, and a cable, very similar to ethernet .. so I don't see a problem there 1219172587 M * TrueBrain that I can't even touch the server :) 1219172597 M * TrueBrain ('cage' as in: the rack door :)) 1219172626 M * Bertl sure that it is your machine? :) 1219172645 M * TrueBrain well, we have colocated in that DC, and some dedicated 1219172655 M * TrueBrain the latter are not owned, so we are not allowed to touch them ;) 1219172665 M * TrueBrain which kind of sucks if you try to do a kernel upgrade 1219172687 M * TrueBrain but netconsole can send his messages outside his netmask? 1219172769 M * Bertl http://www.cyberciti.biz/files/linux-kernel/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt 1219172778 M * Bertl grep for 'gateway' 1219172783 M * TrueBrain totally missed that section :) 1219172901 M * Bertl but as I said, you need a cooperating gateway 1219172924 M * Bertl a different option would be to produce a kernel crash dump 1219172943 M * Bertl (usually to a different partition) if the kernel is what actually fails 1219172985 M * TrueBrain somehow I have the feeling it has trouble accessing the disk 1219173023 M * Bertl could be, did you create a proper initramfs? 1219173046 M * TrueBrain mkinitramfs-kpkg -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22.19-vs2.3.0.34 2.6.22.19-vs2.3.0.34 1219173051 M * TrueBrain one can only assume that does what it should do :) 1219173055 M * geb if you are n debian, the better is to use make-kpkg, to create a .deb 1219173108 M * Bertl and the kernel was compiled with a config which already works on that system? 1219173136 M * TrueBrain problem is that it is either a 2.6.18 configure, or a 2.6.25 .. but we triple checked if the correct drivers are loaded, and as far as we can see, it is 1219173149 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219173157 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1219173162 M * TrueBrain but most likely is it a stupid mistake .. so I was hoping there was just a debian package with 2.6.22 and vs2.3 ;) 1219173189 M * Bertl yeah, no idea why debian dropped the last stable kernel 1219173259 M * geb debian has a stable kernel (2.6.22-vs2.2.x.y) 1219173272 M * geb in lenny 1219173342 M * micah 2.6.26 is being prepared for lenny 1219173343 M * Bertl TrueBrain: that one should do, no? you can probably use that config for your kernel 1219173378 M * TrueBrain Bertl: indeed, but I tried to locate it, and I totally failed (truth there, I fail to find any 'file' Debian uses for his pacakge .. including patches :p) 1219173383 M * TrueBrain geb: you have a url? :) 1219173425 M * geb micah, with vserver 2.2 or 2.3 ? 1219173449 M * Bertl can only be vs2.3 as there is no 2.2 for those kernels 1219173457 M * TrueBrain well, we need the .config of an 2.6.22 kernel debian produced ;) 1219173461 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219173525 M * micah TrueBrain: why not use the proc interface? 1219173532 M * TrueBrain micah: how do you mean? 1219173539 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1219173542 M * micah TrueBrain: /proc/config 1219173591 M * geb he hasn't any working kernel with 2.6.22 1219173595 M * micah ah 1219173598 M * micah sorry 1219173642 M * geb http://packages.debian.org/lenny/linux-image-2.6.22-3-vserver-686 1219173710 M * geb micah, do you think debian will integrate a kernel with a vserver development patch in lenny ? 1219173759 M * TrueBrain tnx geb .. I really wonder how you managed to locate that, where all my searches only showed either 2.6.18 or 2.6.25 :p 1219173774 M * geb sudo apt-cache :) 1219173786 M * TrueBrain I really suck in debian utils 1219173792 M * TrueBrain (I neve runderstood the logic of it) 1219173802 M * geb aptitude search || apt-cache search 1219173854 M * geb you have, 1) apt-get install/remove/update 2) apt-cache search/show/etc... 3) aptitude that do the both (ie install/update/search/show) 1219173871 M * geb no need to know more :) 1219173933 M * TrueBrain well, netconsole doesn't show anything, so the problem is before there .. that at least is something ;) 1219173982 M * Bertl that is a dangerous conclusion 1219173996 M * TrueBrain well, modprobe netconsole did work 1219173998 M * Bertl first, try with a booting kernel and netconsole if you get something 1219174003 M * TrueBrain ;) 1219174010 M * TrueBrain (not the first day on the job ;)) 1219174085 M * TrueBrain so given that, I asusme it is a safe conclusion, or is there more to netconsole? 1219174235 M * geb if you 're unable to acces to the DC maybe you could ask for having your server on a kvm for a while (should be a bit expensive) or put serial cables betwen your boxes 1219174404 M * micah geb: thats the plan 1219174613 M * geb strange, as far i remember debian is a bit strict with kernel packages, but it sounds good :) 1219174627 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219174878 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219174950 Q * hijacker Read error: No route to host 1219174970 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180207087.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219174984 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1219175122 M * TrueBrain anyway, which vserver does the 2.6.25 (lenny, debian) kernel have exactly? 1219175169 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1219175662 M * Bertl the 2.6.25 is probably a little outdated, so vs2.3.0.34.x 1219175678 M * Bertl the 2.6.26 variant hopefully has vs2.3.0.35 1219175704 M * Bertl (note that there is a vs2.3.0.35 for 2.6.25 too) 1219175721 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1219175748 M * TrueBrain are they somewhat stable? 1219175769 M * Bertl no, they are somewhat experimental :) 1219175807 M * Bertl but they work(ed) for those who tested them (including myself) 1219175991 M * TrueBrain k, clear, tnx :) 1219176165 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1219176406 M * TrueBrain geb: something is weird on the 2.6.22 debian source ;) When you check the default configure for amd64, it turns out that they still think SATA is under SCSI .. and so it doesn't compile any SATA driver .. 1219176411 M * TrueBrain really .. Debian sucks (sorry :)) 1219176450 M * TrueBrain can't make head or tails .. 1219176617 M * Bertl well, maybe the 2.6.22 debian kernel is really a 2.6.8 in disguise :) 1219176834 M * ktwilight Bertl, where's that site to check out experimental vserver patches? 1219176844 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1219176876 M * ktwilight sweet~ thanks :) will bookmark 1219177483 M * nox maybe good idea to put it also on the webpage 1219177496 M * Bertl it is linked on the wiki, if you mean that 1219177501 M * TrueBrain okay, we are completely fed up by it .. how ever we try, 2.6.22 somehow ends up in nowhere land, not a clue what is going on. So 2.6.25 it is, hoping it will work out just fine :) Tnx for your time Bertl and geb :) 1219177514 P * cccp 1219177520 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1219177547 M * TrueBrain I am always happy this channel can give some real feedback :) 1219177570 M * Bertl real and virtual :) 1219177580 M * TrueBrain ghehe :) 1219177709 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1219177713 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1219177846 P * TrueBrain So long and tnx for all the fish 1219179062 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1219179420 J * Beuc ~yo@82.238.35.175 1219179530 Q * fatgoose Remote host closed the connection 1219179694 M * Beuc Hi. I need help to build a Fedora vserver under Debian. 1219179728 M * Beuc Under Lenny it fails with errors randomly, and when it starts, it fails with a Python error: http://pastebin.ca/1179003 1219179735 M * Bertl get util-vserver and user vserver .. build 1219179746 M * Bertl s/user/use/ 1219179774 M * Beuc Bertl: that's what I use 1219179782 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1219179784 M * Beuc But I get weird errors 1219179806 M * Bertl what version of util-vserver? 1219179821 M * Beuc Under Etch/backports I get: http://pastebin.ca/1179006 (0.30.214-5~bpo40+2) 1219179834 M * Beuc 0.30.216~r2750-3 for the Lenny version 1219179881 M * Bertl test with testme.sh first, if that doesn't show all OK, the utils and kernel do not match or are miscompiled 1219179947 M * Beuc The kernel is experimental vs2.3 in both cases AFAIK 1219179993 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-99-236.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1219180032 M * Beuc Bertl: the packaged testme.sh says everything is fine. I'll go grab the official .tar.gz and check again. 1219180149 M * Bertl note that you want to specify things like context and such on your build line 1219180154 M * Bertl (as documented on the wiki) 1219180278 M * Bertl at least add --context 1219180291 M * Beuc This doesn't help. 1219180490 M * Bertl could you upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO'? 1219180628 M * Beuc Here: http://pastebin.ca/1179019 1219180687 M * Beuc I'm trying to install the official util-vserver just in case (I'm just slowed down by dependencies, and the Debian package shutting down vservers when uninstalled depsite I told it not to :P) 1219180722 M * Bertl looks both fine to me ... 1219180786 M * Bertl and installing debian guests works fine? 1219180811 M * Beuc I haven't installed one for a while, but it has always worked. Trying now.. 1219180812 M * cehteh some things like exim, vserver-kernel and utils, firefox-extensions and so on are better self installed and not used from debian :) 1219181097 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1219181213 M * Beuc Bertl: "vserver monvserver build -m debootstrap -- -d etch -m http://mirror/debian" works fine 1219181270 M * Bertl okay, then please test with mainline util-vserver and report any issues to daniel_hozac 1219181330 M * Beuc oh: "configure: error: internal error". I'm definitely lucky :p 1219181569 M * Bertl sounds good ... definitely a distro to use :) 1219181664 M * Beuc that, or the config test wasn't so good when beecrypt isn't installed yet 1219181667 M * daniel_hozac sounds more like the yum in Debian is broken. 1219182114 M * Beuc http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347882 seems to agree, although this is for the *old* yum 1219182274 M * Bertl but you can always make a build root for guest installation 1219182328 M * Beuc what do you mean? 1219182349 M * Bertl I do that on a friends server, because he insisted on debian (for whatever reason) 1219182392 M * Bertl you install fedora something (or as in my case, mandriva 2008.1) somewhere 1219182419 M * Bertl then copy that to a directory on the debian host, chroot into it, install the util-vserver packages and voila 1219182446 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1219182457 M * Beuc sure, sure.. 1219182459 M * Bertl --bind mounts help you move the /var/lib/vservers into the proper place and all the debian issues are gone 1219182593 M * Beuc I tend to just rm -rf /var/lib/vservers && ln -s /vservers /var/lib/vservers 1219182654 M * Bertl one day, somebody from FSG will come and get you :) 1219182672 M * ktwilight Bertl, the link isn't that obvious from the wiki site :/ maybe we can put it up on the frontpage? 1219182717 M * Bertl sure, no problem with that ... 1219182724 M * ktwilight cool :) 1219182753 M * ktwilight http://linux-vserver.org/How_to_participate#Test_new_releases <- or put it under that 1219182795 M * Bertl if I just could remember my login now ... :) 1219182803 M * ktwilight hehe :) 1219182859 M * Bertl ah, got it :) 1219182869 M * ktwilight hm, i've just registered :) 1219182877 M * Beuc With v215, I get rid of "setuid" errors, and get "rpm-fake-resolver: vc_ctx_migrate(): No such process / rpm-fake.so: failed to initialize communication with resolver" instead 1219182963 M * daniel_hozac try again. 1219182967 M * daniel_hozac it'll work eventually. 1219183075 M * Bertl ktwilight: here you go :) 1219183094 M * ktwilight i've actually modified How_to_participate to include the link 1219183107 M * Bertl good, no problem with that either 1219183108 M * ktwilight sweet, nice and clear :) 1219183299 M * Beuc Ok, I'll just ditch 'vserver create' and study how to bootstrap fedora manually >( 1219183982 M * Bertl you mean, without yum? 1219184006 M * Bertl you know, you can also use the rpm build method, if you know what you want installed 1219184504 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219184762 M * Beuc I got a nice small image with scripted recreate procedure at http://uml.nagafix.co.uk/Fedora8/ 1219184888 M * Bertl if you have the packages.i386, and the downloaded rpms, you can also use the rpm build method 1219184905 M * Bertl but feel free to use the template method on that image (or the rsync) 1219185147 J * TrueBrain truebrain@80.247.163.158 1219185172 M * TrueBrain Hi! I have an other weird question for you guys ;) In the root machine there is /dev/vboxdrv .. and I want a vserver to access it. How should that be done? 1219185197 M * Bertl cp -va /dev/vboxdrv /path/to/guest/dev/ 1219185228 M * TrueBrain You are the best :) 1219185235 M * TrueBrain is that still save after a reboot? 1219185238 M * TrueBrain safe 1219185266 M * Bertl if the device doesn't change on a reboot, yes 1219185292 M * Bertl the better way, of course, is to add a proper udev rule 1219185308 M * TrueBrain it is a module .. so it stays the same ;) 1219185318 M * TrueBrain udev .. hmm .. rc.local is faster for me I guess ;) 1219185386 M * Bertl usb is a module too (in most systems) nevertheless, the devices get a new major/minor on every unpug/replug :) 1219185397 M * Bertl *unplug 1219185404 M * TrueBrain yeah, I noticed that .. very annoying ;) 1219185410 M * PowerKe If it doesn't change you only have to copy it once, no need for rc.local 1219185421 M * TrueBrain PowerKe: can you promise me it doesn't change? ;) 1219185436 M * PowerKe You said that :) 1219185444 M * PowerKe nvm then :) 1219185454 M * Bertl and it might change after rc.local has been run too 1219185468 M * TrueBrain euh, I made a big typo there, sorry PowerKe :) I ment, so I doubt it stays the same 1219185496 M * daniel_hozac module or not doesn't matter. 1219185497 M * TrueBrain Bertl: well, lets hope this driver doesn't ;) 1219185502 M * TrueBrain else it will crash sooner or later ;) 1219185508 M * daniel_hozac majors are statically allocated in the kernel. 1219185522 M * daniel_hozac as are minors, for most things. 1219185534 M * Bertl like scsi disks and such :) 1219185671 M * TrueBrain You guys scare me :p 1219185984 M * Bertl seems like 2.6.25 was a 'great' kernel :) 1219185988 M * Bertl http://www.kerneloops.org/ 1219186215 M * TrueBrain is that number broken?! :s 1219186263 M * TrueBrain owh, madwifi .. who cares :p 1219186565 A * SpComb pokes TrueBrain 1219186565 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219186639 A * TrueBrain pets SpComb 1219186674 A * SpComb yawns 1219186718 M * TrueBrain go be bored in some other channel, here live serious people SpComb 1219186796 M * SpComb just trying to indicate my presence 1219186833 M * TrueBrain :) I know :) (don't worry, it made me laugh to, so I had to kick you from some random channel ;)) 1219186929 M * SpComb :( 1219186935 A * TrueBrain hugs SpComb 1219186954 M * SpComb I'm sure I wasn't being entirely serious either... 1219187059 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1219187343 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1219187436 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-220-221-184.bhm.bellsouth.net 1219187462 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1219188284 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@67.170.155.50 1219189329 Q * pisco Remote host closed the connection 1219189471 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219190127 Q * pisco Remote host closed the connection 1219190193 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219190229 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-151-1-54-90.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr 1219190335 Q * Piet Quit: Piet