1219019452 J * doener_ ~doener@i577BA258.versanet.de 1219019552 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219019924 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1219019991 M * Bertl well, we had a network outage, so I'm not in hibernation :) 1219022699 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1219022699 T * ChanServ - 1219030662 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219032085 M * hparker Trying to migrate a gentoo system to a vhost but I think I missed something http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12375 1219032197 M * Bertl looks like something is broken inside the guest 1219032197 M * hparker nice :P 1219032197 M * Bertl how did you migrate? 1219032197 M * daniel_hozac get a core dump or similar and run gdb on it. 1219032197 M * hparker rsync -av --numeric-id oldhost newhost 1219032197 M * hparker It's all stripped atm :P 1219032213 M * daniel_hozac no debuginfo? 1219032254 M * hparker naw, it's a MTA so pretty stripped down... Hard drive blew out of the raid while ago so moving it to a guest 1219032281 M * hparker Is there some mount info I could of left in the guest, I got rid of fstab 1219032308 M * daniel_hozac try touching fstab. 1219032331 M * hparker will do 1219032389 M * hparker ahh, the other guests have a fstab with "/dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0" 1219032515 M * hparker which doesn't make sense, but... 1219032629 M * Bertl well, it does make sense, but ... :) 1219032636 M * hparker mkay ;) 1219032694 M * hparker Well, that changed the errors, nothing blew up completely.. still complaining /proc is already mounted and permission denied mounting /dev/shm 1219032774 M * daniel_hozac you might want to file a bug about that. 1219032782 M * daniel_hozac (the blowing up completely) 1219032832 M * Bertl hparker: IIRC, the other issues are handled by a recent layout 1219032868 M * hparker upgraded to openrc and baselayout2 before I thought about starting it 1219032873 M * Bertl (which doesn't try to mount things in a guest and such) 1219032900 M * hparker I'll check though, trying to kill klogd's startup 1219032955 M * hparker easy in syslog-ng, never changed this one 1219033838 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ever played around with I2C? 1219034039 J * Genghis ~Genghis@213.202.237.202 1219034043 M * daniel_hozac not really. why? 1219034061 M * Bertl ah, just curious, do you have many floppy drives in your machines? 1219034946 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.6.28 1219035186 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219035322 Q * alex___ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219035511 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1219035516 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1219035818 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_zZ: i don't think i have a single working floppy drive anymore... 1219037681 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219040395 Q * larsivi_ Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219040546 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180194017.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219041061 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219041325 J * loddafni1 ~mike@193.170.138.233 1219042002 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1219042086 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219042905 J * dna ~dna@188-240-dsl.kielnet.net 1219042957 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219043052 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1219044045 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219045422 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1219045469 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1219045862 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219046180 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1219046249 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@214.76-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1219046331 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219046470 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@87.66.203.250 1219046832 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219048564 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219048579 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1219049531 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219049658 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1219050450 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219051307 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219051553 N * Guest2148 matti 1219052079 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219052121 Q * loddafni1 Remote host closed the connection 1219052242 J * xdr ~xdr@125-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1219052741 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219055011 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1219056823 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.48.107 1219057190 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1219057221 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219060500 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1219060500 T * ChanServ - 1219061546 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1219063047 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219063073 J * pisco__ ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219067615 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-172.ethz.ch 1219067932 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219068738 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51 1219070216 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1219070655 J * RenOS ~renos@athedsl-164107.home.otenet.gr 1219070663 M * RenOS hello world! 1219071467 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-88-152-102-106.hsi.ish.de 1219072976 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219073237 Q * pisco__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219073313 Q * nebuchadnezzar Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219073325 J * nebuchadnezzar ~dad@zion.asgardr.info 1219073634 Q * nebuchadnezzar Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219073636 J * nebuchadnezzar ~dad@zion.asgardr.info 1219073796 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219073973 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1219075536 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1219075659 J * psycotux ~psycotuxb@snappy.schneebi.com 1219075727 M * psycotux good evening, i want to access a larger directory (~60G) from within the vserver. Can somebody recommend me a good way to do that (after failing completely on nfs from host - guest) ? TIA 1219075846 M * daniel_hozac a bind mount? 1219076025 M * psycotux daniel_hozac, do you mean mounting it on the host again into the vserver structure ? sorry i never used bind mounts 1219076068 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1219076095 M * daniel_hozac i mean, in /etc/vservers//fstab, put ext3 bind 0 0 1219076126 A * hparker chimes in to say he got his migration finished 1219076326 M * psycotux daniel_hozac, thx, i got the general idea, didn't work upon first reboot, but i guess i have some leftovers from the nfs tries to remove first. I knew there should be something less stupid than nfs ;) 1219076431 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1219076438 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1219076715 A * psycotux yikes ;) works! 1219076812 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1219076816 M * Bertl morning folks! 1219076889 M * psycotux I used '/share/dir /home/dir ext3 bind 0 0' in ..//fstab - I feel like a missed an important feature of mount the last 10 yrs or so ;) thx again for the help this solves many many problems i had too 1219076981 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: then you might be interested in my latest 'weird' idea :) 1219076996 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/I2C/i2c-floppy.txt 1219077140 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-88-152-102-106.hsi.ish.de 1219077299 M * daniel_hozac sounds cool... have you tried it? 1219077673 M * Bertl of course, it is running here with several I2C interfaces 1219077689 M * Bertl simplest one to start with is e.g. an LM75 1219077734 M * Bertl but I have a full featured LM85 derivative running here too, with fan control and such 1219078997 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219079024 M * daniel_hozac oh, sweet. 1219079155 M * Bertl that idea came to me when I was looking for a way to attach a sensor to my motherboard and didn't want to use the parallel or serial port ... then I saw the unused floppy connector :) 1219079478 M * daniel_hozac hehe, yeah... 1219079741 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-151-1-54-90.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr 1219080759 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180194017.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219080767 M * mnemoc hi, sorry for the off-topic but does anyone has vimrc code of Linux's CodingStyle? (if highlights wrong spacing much better) 1219080848 M * Bertl hmm, never thought of that ... why not run it through indent at the end? 1219080865 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.193.52 1219080993 M * mnemoc Bertl: I do that periodicly... but it's "nice" when the editor helps you to get the things done correctly :) 1219081116 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: if you find something, let us know. 1219081131 M * mnemoc :) 1219081149 M * mnemoc sure :) 1219081249 M * Bertl yeah, sounds interesting ... 1219081306 M * RenOS Bertl, what kinds of sensors do you usually hook up on your motherboard? 1219081386 M * Bertl I did a design (with a friend of mine) to attach an LM96000, this allows to monitor three temperatures (2 external) and control 4 fans in Tach/PWM mode 1219081412 M * Bertl most motherboards only allow to control the CPU fan 1219081418 M * Bertl (if any at all) 1219082217 M * RenOS you need to control the PWM through your OS? 1219082252 M * Bertl not necessarily, the LM96000 can do that automatically on preprogrammed ranges 1219082260 M * Bertl but I can if I want to :) 1219082337 M * RenOS LM96000 seems like a nice chip 1219082353 M * RenOS I only do that things using Picmicros 1219082361 M * Bertl it is a superset of the more common LM85 series 1219082432 M * Bertl but yeah, those sensor/monitor chips are quite sophisticated nowadays 1219082455 M * Bertl most motherboards do not even use 1/10th of their onboard monitor capabilities (which is a shame) 1219082458 M * RenOS yes, indeed. I do like the idea to add some extra features though (feedback to the OS, leds, etc) 1219082501 M * Bertl the nice thing is, that I2C has a bunch of very different chips/features already available 1219082530 M * Bertl e.g. you can use an i2c gpio chip to drive a bunch of leds, or an i2c digital pot to regulate something 1219082600 M * RenOS you are right. I2C is a commonly used bus 1219083424 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1219084131 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.7.43 1219084549 Q * pisco Remote host closed the connection 1219084660 N * morrigan_ morrigan 1219084714 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219085139 M * morrigan hi....has anone here ever done some sort of loadbalancing for vserver guests? as in, simulate the work of a hardware loadbalancer to distribute requests to different vservers? 1219085197 M * daniel_hozac on different hosts? 1219085212 M * morrigan same host... 1219085225 M * daniel_hozac i'm not sure i see how that makes sense. 1219085228 M * Bertl IIRC, derjohn (_mob) was doing that back then (for HA setups) 1219085251 M * morrigan hehe, no for practical uses it doesn't make sense that's true 1219085308 M * morrigan i'm trying to simulate an environment of several oracle application server clusters...so i need some sort of loadbalancing there to distribute the requests 1219085342 M * morrigan it's just for testing purposes...i agree it's moronic in any real environment 1219086092 Q * pmenier_off Quit: Konversation terminated! 1219086329 M * RenOS is you need HTTP loadbalancing you could use pound 1219086341 M * RenOS which is an HTTP load balancer 1219086608 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1219088153 Q * john Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219088252 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219088252 Q * psycotux Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219088263 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1219088392 J * john ~john@glou.nurvnet.org 1219088409 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1219089394 M * morrigan RenOS: nah, not only HTTP, unfortunately 1219089660 J * blathijs ~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl 1219089750 M * blathijs Is there anyone in particular involved with the distribution-specific scripts? Ie, the distributions/debian/initpost script in particular? 1219089837 M * blathijs Out of the box, it isn't generating my locales properly. There is some handling in that script, which fills /etc/locale.gen and runs locale-gen if it exists. However, locale-gen is not installed by debootstrap by default... 1219089859 M * blathijs This means getting a bunch of locale warnings in a new vserver, until you install the locales package and manually run locale-gen 1219089984 M * Bertl well, yes and no 1219090016 M * pmjdebruijn blathijs: I'd solve it with a postinstall scripts, which fixes that stuff, you generally always want certain packages anyways, so you can do that as well in there 1219090018 M * Bertl first, you won't get _any_ locale messages, unless you bring your host locales setting with you (e.g. via vserver enter) 1219090065 M * Bertl second, that's not really a problem of the post install scripts (as they handle that properly, as you already figured) it's a problem with the/your default packages 1219090089 M * blathijs I'm not blaming postinstall scripts per se :-) 1219090105 M * blathijs I'm just seeing support in the postinit script for something that will never work AFAICS 1219090113 M * Bertl finally having a minimal install (i.e. without locale(s)) is probably desireable, as you can add/specify them to the build process, IIRC 1219090153 M * blathijs pmjdebruijn: Yeah, I can fix it myself, but I thought it would be useful to see if this can be documented or improved in some way, for the general good :-) 1219090171 M * Bertl daniel_hozac probably has some hints how to do that via the (defaults) config 1219090216 M * Bertl one way to fix the locale 'issues' is to remove your locale settings for that particular shell 1219090237 M * Bertl e.g. just execute 'export LC_ALL=C LANG=C' before you enter the guest 1219090294 M * blathijs Hmm, good point. The postinit scripts adds the default host locale to locale.gen in the vserver, but doesn't set it to be default 1219090312 M * blathijs However, I want to have UTF-8 in my vserver, so supressing that won't help me :-) 1219090400 M * blathijs I'll bug daniel_hozac about it a bit I guess 1219090408 M * blathijs but not now :-) bll 1219090410 M * blathijs uh 1219090410 M * blathijs bbl 1219091425 J * Beuc ~yo@82.238.35.175 1219091487 M * Beuc Hi. I'm wondering: is there a reason why none of the vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ versions are not mentioned at linux-vserver.org? 1219091515 M * Beuc I mean, they are even included in Debian currently-frozen afaics :) 1219091519 M * Bertl because they are experimental 1219091545 M * Bertl but I have no problem to put _another_ link on the main page 1219091591 M * Beuc It'd look more lively :) 1219091693 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1219092513 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219092531 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl 1219092538 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1219092929 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1219093453 Q * RenOS Remote host closed the connection 1219093615 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-99-236.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1219093906 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1219095964 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1219096897 J * dna_ ~dna@188-240-dsl.kielnet.net 1219097296 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219097869 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180194017.adsl.alicedsl.de 1219098629 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1219099582 Q * Beuc Quit: Leaving 1219099815 M * mnemoc Bertl_oO: hi, I want to try to implement a mount option (nbd), but I can't find where to start.... may you please enlighten me? I have been looking where -o loop is implemented without luck :( 1219099852 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1219099898 M * daniel_hozac util-linux-ng? 1219099973 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: mount options are handled in userspace??? dog 1219099974 M * mnemoc doh 1219100018 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: thanks a lot for the hint, i'll read busybox's first :p 1219100029 M * daniel_hozac -o loop is. 1219100048 J * Supaplex_ ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1219100103 Q * Supaplex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219100209 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: probably that's why I couldn't find it in the kernel source :p 1219100252 M * daniel_hozac seems like a good reason ;) 1219100290 M * mnemoc =) 1219100423 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1219100693 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1219100706 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1219101205 Q * opuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1219101226 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1219101768 Q * loddafnir Quit: Leaving. 1219102214 Q * Supaplex_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219102223 J * Supaplex ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1219102447 J * MicroProz ~Miranda@static-57-112-46-212.b2bdsl.de 1219102466 M * MicroProz hi @ all 1219102485 M * MicroProz is jemand aktiv ? 1219102502 M * daniel_hozac i don't know jemand... 1219102514 M * MicroProz sorry, is here somebody active ... 1219102522 M * MicroProz i think you ;-) 1219102534 M * MicroProz ? 1219102601 M * MicroProz hm, is nobody active in this channel at this time ? 1219102611 M * daniel_hozac no, nobody at all. 1219102665 M * MicroProz ok, thank you :-( 1219103174 Q * MicroProz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1219103394 M * mnemoc that was odd 1219103566 M * daniel_hozac to say the least...