1217980846 Q * loddafnir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217981275 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-68-62-13.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1217982532 J * doener_ ~doener@i577BB2E2.versanet.de 1217982633 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217983400 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217985207 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217987717 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-125-138.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1217987891 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217988506 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.247.206 1217993738 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180206203.adsl.alicedsl.de 1217993854 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217994791 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-253-166.netcologne.de 1217995191 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1217995191 T * ChanServ - 1217995241 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217995976 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@156.83-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1217996210 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217999079 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217999736 J * balbir ~balbir@122.171.21.10 1218000114 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3965F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1218000196 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1218000979 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1218002221 J * marv ~marv@modemcable157.74-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1218002259 N * marv Guest486 1218002265 N * Guest486 marv_ 1218002308 M * marv_ hey Bertl 1218002337 M * Bertl hey marv_! 1218002392 M * marv_ can patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.3.0.34.diff be applied to linux-2.6.26.1? 1218002405 M * marv_ i'm getting wired output 1218002431 M * marv_ btw how's it going 1218002794 M * Bertl no, a 2.6.22 patch cannot be applied to 2.6.26 :) 1218002900 M * marv_ ok so i really need to run 2.6.22.19 then :/ m'k thx 1218002919 M * Bertl or take one of the experimental patches 1218002919 M * marv_ but you still didn't answer my second question... 1218002940 M * Bertl mostly fine here .. still more busy than I'd like 1218002947 M * marv_ call can 2.3.0.34 naddress --remove? 1218002970 M * marv_ call = well 1218002981 M * Bertl yep 1218002998 M * marv_ good 1218003009 M * marv_ those boxes i had let you use are going in colocation 1218003013 M * marv_ building them atm 1218003537 Q * ktwilight_ Remote host closed the connection 1218003885 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1218004708 J * Infinito argos@201-11-169-73.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1218004716 Q * Infinito Remote host closed the connection 1218004947 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218005933 Q * infowolfe Quit: infowolfe 1218005941 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1218005949 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1218007761 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1218007804 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1218007858 Q * quiksilv7 1218007936 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1218008536 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218008975 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.200.247 1218009333 M * marv_ can not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implemented 1218009338 M * marv_ mmm what did i forget? lol 1218009362 M * Bertl depends on your kernel/patch/util-vserver version :) 1218009380 M * Bertl best start with testme.sh (and upload the results) 1218009404 M * marv_ 2.6.22.19 kernel 2.3.0.34 patch 0.30.215 ultil-vserver 1218009429 M * Bertl most likely misconfiguration of the kernel or utils then 1218009442 A * marv_ points to the kernel 1218009480 Q * ktwilight Remote host closed the connection 1218009552 M * marv_ funny thow all my compat options are enabled in the kernel 1218009568 M * Bertl which probably causes your issues 1218009758 M * marv_ yeah it clearly states in the kernel not to put Compat VDSO when using libc6 2.3.3+ 1218009763 M * marv_ giving that a shot 1218009916 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... good luck! 1218009921 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1218009963 M * marv_ g'nite 1218010365 J * loddafni1 ~mike@193.170.48.107 1218010424 J * blizz ~stephan@e181100020.adsl.alicedsl.de 1218010909 Q * blizz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218011302 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1218012389 M * daniel_hozac marv_: you are running stuff as root, right? 1218012589 J * mfv ~mfv@host232-48-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1218012632 Q * mfv 1218012756 J * mfv ~mfv@host232-48-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1218014024 M * marv_ dan: yeah found the probleme 1218014029 M * marv_ verry huge issue 1218014041 M * marv_ must apply the patch before compiling... 1218014060 A * marv_ looks up and whissles 1218014430 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.204.234 1218016601 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1218016664 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1218016911 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218017529 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1218018152 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218018792 J * xdr ~xdr@29-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1218019706 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218020030 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1218022030 M * marv_ every time i try to add an ip to a guest i get this now: 1218022031 M * marv_ *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xbfea59c0 *** 1218022096 M * daniel_hozac don't build util-vserver against glibc. 1218022134 M * marv_ meaning? 1218022151 M * daniel_hozac meaning, you get big fat warnings when you do for a reason. 1218022228 M * marv_ so what do i need to change in my ./confiugure? --disable-dietlibc ? 1218022252 M * daniel_hozac no, just install dietlibc. 1218022882 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-89-100.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net 1218023018 M * marv_ thx 1218023905 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1218026478 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1218026894 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1218027478 N * fluor dentifrice 1218028396 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1218030672 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1218030930 J * hparker hparker@linux.homershut.net 1218031857 J * mmouse ~mmouse@office.haefft.de 1218032505 J * gplessis ~gplessis@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-33.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1218032520 M * gplessis hello there 1218032572 M * gplessis I have an issue with the v2.3 branch 1218032590 M * gplessis kernel 2.6.25.10-vs2.3.0.34.13.1 and util-vserver 0.30.216 1218032623 M * gplessis RAW_ICMP is present in ccapabilities 1218032643 M * gplessis NET_RAW is present in bacapabilities 1218032668 M * gplessis but I can't access the network out of my guest machine 1218032679 M * gplessis no ping, no dns resolving.... 1218032684 M * gplessis any idea? 1218032689 M * rcatwood eep 1218032826 M * mnemoc NAT? 1218032860 M * mnemoc forwarding enabled? 1218032894 M * gplessis forwarding is disabled 1218032955 M * gplessis no NAT is needed 1218032970 M * gplessis host and guest are on the same network, on the same NIC 1218033149 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1218033200 M * rob-84x^ is it still required to do setattr --barrier with the recent versions of vserver (2.1-)? 1218033307 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1218033865 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1218034019 M * daniel_hozac rob-84x^: yes. 1218034027 M * daniel_hozac gplessis: have you assigned an IP address to the guest? 1218034043 M * daniel_hozac is that IP address assigned to an interface? 1218034071 M * gplessis daniel_hozac: yes. The host has the 10.0.0.230 and the guest 10.0.0.241 1218034084 M * gplessis both assigned to eth0 1218034181 M * daniel_hozac and ip a in the guest shows the address? 1218034195 M * gplessis yep, and the loopback 1218034228 M * daniel_hozac and ping -I 10.0.0.241 google.com on the host works fine, right? 1218034260 M * gplessis no :( 1218034292 M * gplessis do you need my kernel config options? 1218034321 M * daniel_hozac then it's not Linux-VServer related. 1218034332 M * gplessis strange 1218034340 M * daniel_hozac most likely that IP address is already in use on the network. 1218034345 M * mnemoc ping 10.0.0.230 does? 1218034352 M * gplessis yes 1218034397 M * gplessis ip addr show dev eth0 1218034397 M * gplessis 3: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 1218034397 M * gplessis link/ether 00:1e:c9:b2:11:d2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 1218034397 M * gplessis inet 10.0.0.230/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global eth0 1218034397 M * gplessis inet 10.0.0.241/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global secondary eth0:test1 1218034435 M * daniel_hozac check the ARP table on the router. 1218034510 M * gplessis hoho... 1218034518 M * mnemoc you for curiosity, /etc/resolv.conf correctly set up in the guest and nameserver reachableß 1218034524 M * mnemoc ? 1218034532 M * mnemoc damn lag 1218034539 M * mnemoc s/^you/just/ 1218034592 M * gplessis It's and ARP problem, you're right, 1218034626 M * gplessis shame on the guy who set up the machine (not me) 1218034645 M * gplessis and shame on me to bother you with such problems :s 1218034655 M * gplessis anyway, thank you so much 1218034705 M * gplessis have a nice day 1218034710 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome. 1218034722 Q * gplessis Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish! 1218035188 M * marv_ oh yeah 4h of sleep 1218035192 M * marv_ that was almost nice 1218037650 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1218037662 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1218037670 M * Bertl morning folks! 1218037734 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1218038962 M * ktwilight i got this error when starting a guest. http://rafb.net/p/rUqBNV99.html i created it using vserver -m rsync. strangely, it worked before, but not anymore, am not sure what else to look out for. google's results didn't help much, either that or am not understanding the problem properly... 1218038984 M * ktwilight util-vserver 0.30.215-2~bpo40+1 1218039005 M * ktwilight the guest which i rsync-ed from works perfectly fine. 1218039223 M * ktwilight fwiw, this is the command line i used to create it. mkdir /usr/vserver_guests/z3-py24 && vserver z3-py24 build -m rsync --rootdir /usr/vserver_guests/z3-py24/ --hostname z3-py24 --interface eth0:192.168.0.30/24 -- --source /usr/vserver_guests/template/ 1218039254 M * ktwilight doh!! nevermind! 1218039255 M * ktwilight geez... 1218039259 A * ktwilight bangs his head against the wall 1218039305 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1218039434 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-84-44-231-78.netcologne.de 1218039553 M * Bertl ktwilight: hmm? 1218039569 M * marv_ hey Bertl :) 1218039584 M * Bertl hey marv_! 1218039603 M * marv_ guess what? ... i got a question for you hehe 1218039614 M * marv_ test2:/vservers# naddress --remove --nid vps0 --ip 192.168.1.100 --bcast 192.168.1.255 1218039614 M * marv_ Removing 192.168.1.100 1218039614 M * marv_ naddress: vc_net_remove(): Invalid argument 1218039651 M * Bertl try --ip 192.168.1.100/24 1218039727 M * marv_ same 1218039763 M * Bertl what is listed in /proc/virtnet//* ? 1218039768 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1218039879 M * marv_ http://www.pastebin.ca/1093917 1218039902 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218039932 M * marv_ oo i gess i should add /mask when naddress --add an ip 1218039933 M * Bertl seems you added that one with /0 1218039951 M * Bertl try to remove it with /0 (or nothing) too 1218040183 M * marv_ now there all identical (fixed 192.168.1.100) and i still get the same error 1218040205 M * Bertl anything in dmesg? 1218040326 M * marv_ no 1218040339 M * Bertl ah, no, just checked, we only implemented the remove everything part of remove 1218040367 M * Bertl so you have to remove everything (specify 0.0.0.0) and then add back the IPs you don't want removed 1218040385 M * marv_ arg u said it was supported yesturday :P 1218040386 M * marv_ k 1218040402 M * marv_ so i'm still stuck with --set --ip x.x.x..x --ip x.x..x.xx,,,,,,,, to remove the ips 1218040416 M * Bertl as I said, I thought it was, but the code proves me wrong 1218040435 M * marv_ thats false publicity :P 1218040450 M * marv_ thx again 1218040452 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218040470 M * Bertl np 1218041405 Q * mmouse 1218041997 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218044536 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1218045716 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1218046022 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B4084.dip.t-dialin.net 1218046516 Q * ViRUS Remote host closed the connection 1218047558 M * dentifrice would anyone happen to have recommandations for optimizing ext3 under LVM2 on a server? the partition will host virtual servers running a number of daemons 1218048167 M * Bertl really depends on the underlying disk I/O system 1218049178 M * trippeh Aligning filesystems with underlying raid systems through LVM can be a pain in the ass 1218049194 M * trippeh Usually more effort than its worth 1218049209 M * Bertl yep, but unrelated to Linux-VServer usage 1218049704 Q * bXi Remote host closed the connection 1218050478 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1218055201 Q * mfv Remote host closed the connection 1218055457 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1218055917 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218057025 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1218057348 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp118-208-125-138.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1218059085 J * androsch ~androsch@dslb-084-060-228-169.pools.arcor-ip.net 1218059665 J * vargadani ~vargadani@catv-598710d9.catv.broadband.hu 1218059669 M * vargadani hi... 1218059689 M * vargadani something came to me and this channel has prolly the most experience in this 1218059716 M * vargadani if I write an app that does complex routines 1218059727 M * vargadani and I rewrite it so that it can be a kernel module 1218059739 M * Bertl then you did something wrong :) 1218059739 M * vargadani am I gonna experience any growth in speed 1218059754 M * vargadani Why do you say that? 1218059762 M * Bertl no, only a decrease in stability 1218059775 M * vargadani i know that 1218059775 M * Bertl you don't put complex stuff in the kernel :) 1218059780 M * vargadani :) 1218059787 M * vargadani this is just thinking 1218059790 M * vargadani nothing serious 1218059807 M * vargadani so it won't boost the performance of the application right? 1218059832 M * daniel_hozac depends. 1218059848 M * vargadani what does it depend on? 1218059862 M * daniel_hozac if you lock the kernel and disable all interrupts, your program will run until it's done. 1218059898 M * Bertl but you can get that with RT tasks too :) 1218059902 M * daniel_hozac true. 1218059906 M * Bertl no need to write a kernel module :) 1218059906 M * vargadani but as well it means nothing else will be able to run 1218059911 M * vargadani RT? 1218059962 M * dentifrice hey there 1218059965 M * vargadani hi 1218059972 M * dentifrice is network virtualisation ready within vserver yet? 1218059983 M * daniel_hozac we haven't touched it at all. 1218059994 M * dentifrice daniel_hozac: meaning? :) 1218060000 M * Bertl so if it works, it works :) 1218060006 M * daniel_hozac meaning, it works just as well as on mainline. 1218060034 M * dentifrice ok, err, it's just that my starting point was the 2.2 patch series, 1218060045 M * dentifrice which, AFAIK, didn't allow for network/ethernet virtualisation 1218060059 Q * androsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1218060077 M * dentifrice and people were actually trying to sell me OpenVZ saying "hey, you can use it to do network virtualization, while you can't with Linux-Vserver" 1218060117 M * Bertl dentifrice: well, Linux-VServer uses network isolation, for several reasons 1218060131 M * Bertl (doesn't mean that we would disable mainline features) 1218060138 J * ricola ~ricola@pepin.poivron.org 1218060193 M * Bertl welcome ricola! got any drops, mints or so? 1218060267 M * dentifrice Bertl: does that mean I won't ever be able to run OpenVPN within a vserver? 1218060280 M * Bertl openvpn runs fine here (in a guest) 1218060310 M * Bertl but that one doesn't need virtual networking (at least not in certain setups) 1218060311 M * dentifrice sorry, I'm a little confused with all these terms, isolation/virtualisation/etc., I guess 1218060315 M * ricola Bertl: i'm dentifrice's co-admin but we're into vegetables more that candies in fact 1218060328 M * dentifrice ricola: I like candies! 1218060365 M * Bertl okay, let me make it simple: 1218060378 M * Bertl you know what Xen does? 1218060383 M * dentifrice yes. 1218060390 M * dentifrice (at least I think so) 1218060401 M * Bertl okay, great, makes a virtual machine, you can run a whole linux distro in 1218060407 M * dentifrice yep. 1218060431 M * Bertl that's called 'virtualization', now Linux-VServer on the other hand, allows a bunch of processes to run side by side 1218060455 M * Bertl without seeing each other (or disturbing each other more than necessary), that's called isolation 1218060481 M * Bertl on the network side, it's quite similar 1218060506 M * Bertl instead of creating a bunch of virtual network stacks, and combining them via a virtual bridge 1218060565 M * Bertl we isolate the guests (or more precisely their IPs) 1218060581 M * vargadani he does 1218060583 M * vargadani ^_^ 1218060599 M * Bertl this allows everything at layer 3 (and above, i.e. IP) to work 1218060623 M * Bertl we also do a few tiny hacks on layer 2 to allow ping and such 1218060749 M * vargadani Bertl, how do you know so much about Linux kernels and such? 1218060768 M * dentifrice Bertl: thanks for the explanation. 1218060773 M * Bertl vargadani: mostly learning by doing 1218060791 M * Bertl dentifrice, ricola: hope that explains the basic idea 1218060811 M * ricola Bertl: that's a great explanation 1218060835 M * vargadani Bert: the way I learn 1218060842 M * vargadani I guess I am just a few years behind 1218060864 M * dentifrice Bertl: still, wasn't there a plan to make such a thing as veth in OpenVZ available as an option? 1218060890 M * Bertl yes, and it got into mainline by now 1218060923 M * dentifrice for vserver? 1218060940 M * Bertl for everyone 1218060984 M * Bertl but we don't know if it works or not yet .. haven't got around testing that stuff 1218060998 M * dentifrice damn, ok; how is it called? :) 1218061006 M * Bertl net namespaces 1218061011 M * Bertl (network) 1218061125 M * daniel_hozac it's not really usable yet. 1218061129 M * daniel_hozac as it depends on !SYSFS. 1218061170 M * daniel_hozac and even if you get the sysfs patches, it only does TCP and UDP on IPv4 for now. (IIRC). 1218061216 M * dentifrice ok - is the OPZ veth based upon that? 1218061247 M * daniel_hozac as i recall, macvlan is more performant than veth. 1218061267 M * daniel_hozac but i believe they are for slightly different use-cases. 1218061295 M * daniel_hozac as for what OpenVZ does, i have no idea. i've never looked at their code. 1218061313 M * Bertl it's quite hard to read actually 1218061326 M * Bertl (some places make you want to cut your eyes out :) 1218061483 M * dentifrice Bertl: ouch 1218062031 M * vargadani Bertl: I know that you are the experienced guy and I respect that you said I shouldn't implement anything in LKM 1218062046 M * vargadani but I wanna make experiments and this is agreat way to learn what I can and cannot do 1218062065 M * Bertl sure, go crazy 1218062068 M * vargadani with LKMs and what should be lest in user space 1218062074 M * vargadani I will, thanx ^_^ 1218062087 M * vargadani ahm... had to install qemu... sorry ^_^ 1218062101 M * vargadani alright 1218062107 M * vargadani well take care everyone 1218062117 M * Bertl nothing to be sorry about, we are using qemu for development and testing 1218062118 M * vargadani id better go now 1218062147 M * vargadani yeah I ment to ask.. when you write vserver 1218062159 M * vargadani I suppose you do not need to recompile the whole staff 1218062167 M * vargadani all over again every time do you 1218062168 M * vargadani ? 1218062179 M * Bertl nope, the kernel build system does a good job there 1218062206 M * Bertl only build the parts that actually changed 1218062212 M * vargadani i am more and more amazed by linux kernel 1218062229 M * vargadani k 1218062235 M * vargadani thanx for the answers 1218062237 M * vargadani bye all 1218062243 M * Bertl cya 1218062264 Q * vargadani Remote host closed the connection 1218062797 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1218062803 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1218063113 M * toya hi 1218063125 M * toya i am following this: 1218063128 M * toya http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200507/0140.html 1218063137 M * toya 3. adjust the initpre/initpost symlinks 1218063145 M * toya how I do this part? 1218063185 M * daniel_hozac whitebox still exists? 1218063209 M * toya no this is a redhat 1218063213 M * toya enterprise 1218063377 M * daniel_hozac so you copied centos5? 1218063386 M * toya no, f9 1218063405 M * daniel_hozac why? 1218063426 M * toya you mean the distribution i will install on the vserver? 1218063435 M * daniel_hozac not that it matters, it's just that CentOS 5 is RHEL rebuilt... 1218063447 M * daniel_hozac no. i mean step 1. 1218063480 M * toya yeah, for step 1. i choosed f9, isnt for me is what the person asked 1218063547 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand. 1218063557 M * daniel_hozac what is it that you want to accomplish? 1218063580 M * toya build a vserver that uses f9, the base system is a redhat 1218063594 M * daniel_hozac so you don't have to do any of that. 1218063598 M * toya ohh 1218063606 M * daniel_hozac just install a recent enough util-vserver version. 1218063625 M * toya i got the one from your repo, for CentOS 5 1218063665 M * daniel_hozac hmm... i thought i had pushed the latest one. 1218063705 M * toya btw, do you know if yum still needs that patch? 1218063711 M * daniel_hozac it does. 1218063714 M * toya :( 1218063719 M * daniel_hozac always will. 1218063758 M * toya I see, so I will have to compile yum with the patch - redhat has this plugin that connects to their repos..and I cant find where to exclude yum from it 1218063791 M * dentifrice btw, does bind9 still need to be recompiled w/o threads and caps support to function within a vservere? 1218063794 M * dentifrice -e 1218063809 M * daniel_hozac hasn't been needed since Linux-VServer 2.1. 1218063821 M * dentifrice daniel_hozac: then I am _really_ lagging behind :) 1218063845 M * daniel_hozac probably means you're running Debian etch... 1218063933 M * dentifrice daniel_hozac: that wasn't a hard guess, was it? :) 1218064995 M * daniel_hozac toya: yum update, remove /etc/vservers/.distributions/f9 and let me know if it works... 1218065137 M * toya daniel_hozac: thanks, I am working on the yum part right now, I will have to compile it with the patch 1218065154 M * daniel_hozac i've got yum in my repo already. 1218065187 M * toya yes but redhat is not installing it, is the same version that is running on redhat 1218065193 M * daniel_hozac no it's not. 1218065199 M * toya oh let me see 1218065203 M * daniel_hozac yum --noplugins install yum 1218065216 M * toya http://rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/centos/5/vserver/i386/ 1218065321 M * toya it says 'nothing to do' 1218065329 M * toya how could i verify it has the right yum? 1218065329 M * daniel_hozac and rpm -q yum returns...? 1218065349 M * toya yum-3.2.8-9.el5_2.1 1218065407 M * daniel_hozac well, that's your problem... 1218065431 M * toya yeah i know, i will compile it with the patch 1218065441 M * daniel_hozac you should be able to --oldpackage it with the RPM i've got. 1218065460 M * toya thanks i will try that 1218065606 M * daniel_hozac btw, why did you install RHEL rather than CentOS? 1218065657 M * daniel_hozac changing the kernel means you're not eligible for support anyway. 1218065772 M * toya well isnt me, is a client, and the client doesn knows that.... 1218065803 M * toya err not doesn but *does* 1218065821 M * toya that option --oldpackage doesnt exist 1218065831 M * daniel_hozac sure it does. 1218065860 M * toya Command line error: no such option: --oldpackage 1218065874 M * daniel_hozac rpm -Uvh --oldpackage http... 1218065878 M * toya maybe is my fault 1218065887 M * toya thanks 1218065899 M * toya i normally use debian that is my problem 1218067140 M * toya rpm -q yum 1218067140 M * toya yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1.chroot1 1218067142 M * toya ! 1218067148 M * toya thanks a lot daniel_hozac 1218067155 M * toya it works!