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1217825051 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1217825060 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1217833787 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1217833945 M * DavidS strange, on shutdown stopping the vservers hung indefinitely but got unstuck after pressing the powerbutton .. is there any possibility of having some interaction between acpid and the vserver patch?!?!
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1217842875 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-89-100.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net
1217843277 J * wam ~wam@si158.sb.d9t.de
1217843291 M * wam Hi, how do I make a /dev/ttyS0 device in my vserver?
1217843334 M * wam I allowed SYS_ADMIN in bcapabilities, but I don't see more devices. Do I have to mknod from the host?
1217843435 M * phedny_ I'd guess you could do (in the guest): cd /dev; MAKEDEV ttyS0
1217843477 M * phedny_ that-is is SYS_ADMIN is enough to run mknod
1217843556 M * wam phedny: trying. thanks
1217843713 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1217843719 M * Bertl morning folks!
1217843744 M * Bertl wam: note: that there is a really good reason why SYS_ADMIN is not given to a guest though :)
1217843758 M * wam Bertl: thanks - this is just my "intra" guest.
1217843760 M * Bertl wam: and creating device nodes on the host always works
1217843767 M * wam Bertl: without sys_admin? cool ;)
1217843774 M * wam Bertl: then I'll not use sys_admin
1217843783 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection
1217843819 M * Bertl well, you have SYS_ADMIN on the host (as root, if you do not drop it)
1217843830 M * wam understood
1217843963 M * bXi what should i do to have cups working in a vserver?
1217843993 M * bXi i guess nothing if i'm going to use a network printer
1217844253 M * Bertl guess so too
1217844987 M * DavidS hi Bertl!
1217845026 M * Bertl hey, how's going?
1217845073 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1217845087 M * DavidS starting and stopping the guest from the shell worked fine, there was only a problem on shutdown, when the guest was stopping, it didn'T progress
1217845098 M * DavidS "on shutdown stopping the vservers hung indefinitely but got unstuck after pressing the powerbutton .. is there any possibility of having some interaction between acpid and the vserver patch?!?!"
1217845192 M * Bertl not really, but it might be that the signalling is broken
1217845201 M * Bertl next time try with vkill
1217845215 M * DavidS vserver test stop works from the shell
1217845238 M * Bertl aha, hmm
1217845317 M * Bertl and the unpatched 2.6.26 (Debian) kernel works fine (on your system, on shutdown)?
1217845329 M * DavidS will try
1217845353 M * Bertl and for how long was it 'stuck'? can it be recreated?
1217845394 M * DavidS a shutdown with no vserver running worked
1217845405 M * DavidS i let it stand for several minutes
1217845416 Q * pmenier Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1217845423 M * DavidS i'll try again, there was a acpid error message, sorry for not writing it doen
1217845427 M * DavidS down
1217845451 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-56-29.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1217845804 M * DavidS something completely different: wtf is wrong here: http://pastie.org/246921 ??
1217845892 M * DavidS when pressing the power button it says "acpid: client disconnected" twice, then the shutdown proceeds
1217845940 M * DavidS stupidly, the vservers get shutdown after syslogd stops ... weird
1217845981 M * Bertl maybe rearrange the shutdown scripts so that this isn't the case?
1217846005 M * DavidS as soon as the laptop is up again
1217846017 M * Bertl regarding your openssl key thingy, well, as the compiler says, the function is defined static, after it was defined non-static :)
1217846060 M * DavidS so i need to s/extern/static \1/?
1217846085 M * Bertl basically you have to decide, either extern or static, both is not really possible :)
1217846256 M * DavidS hmm .. wth do they need the extern anyways to IMPLEMENT the global?
1217846401 M * Bertl I don't know what openssl understand under 'GLOBAL' but if it is something like 'global' in asm or so, then it has to be extern and not static :)
1217846489 M * DavidS afaict from the changelog, this is some kind of trick to make a global ref but using a function (which is needed in some strange cases)
1217846500 M * DavidS to do this they hide the var into _hide_##name
1217846517 M * DavidS and create a _shadow_##name function to get at the address
1217846559 M * DavidS oh, I see! they need to declare the var to define the function, but want to be able to add an initializer after the macro usage
1217846574 M * DavidS like "OPENSSL_IMPLEMENT_GLOBAL(int, foo) = 0;"
1217846580 M * DavidS *shudder*
1217846628 M * Bertl could work with a staic inline function though
1217846658 M * Bertl or at least with a #define, but really depends on the gcc
1217846885 M * DavidS great, seems like s/extern/static/ did the job to get it to compile
1217846922 M * DavidS in other news i have move the vserver stop to be the first thing in shutdown and now it has hanged the shutdown completely
1217846932 M * DavidS the acpi messages went to syslog, but nothing else
1217846974 M * DavidS next step, I'll let a getty hang around for shutdown, so i can login again when it's stuck and to some poking around
1217847003 M * Bertl DavidS: ahem, you remember the ssl key incident?
1217847017 Q * pmenier Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1217847037 M * DavidS :-/
1217847064 M * DavidS yes i do, and i know exactly what you're trying to tell me
1217847086 M * DavidS (and kurt surely is aeons better c-programmer than myself)
1217847425 M * DavidS I think i know what's the problem
1217847446 M * DavidS there is no process left running in the vserver and the initscript hangs waiting on a lockfile operation
1217847451 M * DavidS :-/
1217847822 Q * wam Quit: Verlassend
1217847831 M * Bertl hmm, could you try with mainline util-vserver please?
1217847877 M * Bertl just to make sure that it isn't a debian package problem
1217847890 M * DavidS yeah, will do
1217847931 M * DavidS http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/utils/util-vserver/util-vserver-0.30.215.tar.bz2 i presume?
1217847953 M * Bertl yep, that or later ... also chat with daniel_hozac, maybe he has an idea about what happens 
1217848103 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1217848109 M * DavidS my blushes, someone has linked my virtual module for puppet on the wiki :)
1217848234 M * Bertl those bastards!
1217848237 M * Bertl :)
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1217848725 J * frootat ~joern@dyndsl-091-096-048-166.ewe-ip-backbone.de
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1217850239 M * Bertl k, off for now ... bbl
1217850269 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1217850946 M * DavidS Bertl_oO, daniel_hozac: it works with the stock util-vserver tools :-/
1217851154 M * Bertl_oO DavidS: in this case, have a chat with micah
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1217852949 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1217852966 P * jsambrook 
1217854252 M * karasz hello
1217854263 M * karasz is it possible to restart a vserver from within?
1217854286 M * karasz and if yes, does it need some special capabilities?
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1217854639 M * mfv hey, I'm trying to install munin in a lenny-i386 guest but it complains about /proc/partitions; any hint??
1217854681 M * mfv it says that the file doesn't exist (and it's right)... should I link it in some way?
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1217855642 J * vargadani ~vargadani@catv-598710d9.catv.broadband.hu
1217855652 M * vargadani hi all
1217856014 M * vargadani is anybody familiar with flex/bison here? I would surely take some help either in private or here (depending on Mr. Herbert ^_^)
1217856018 M * vargadani please let me know
1217856077 M * DavidS vargadani: i do
1217856087 M * vargadani ahh great
1217856113 M * vargadani here is a simple program I wrote, it would be great if you could take a look at it.. not very long: http://codepad.org/tmQy4NmX
1217856156 M * vargadani DevidS: the problem is that for some reason it seems that I don't get the "program" output (this is a string) that is supposed to be printed out
1217856188 M * vargadani it's in line 14
1217856210 M * vargadani the ouput is at line 73
1217856237 M * DavidS say printf("program\n")
1217856246 M * DavidS perhaps you don't see the last line of your output?
1217856267 M * DavidS you can also add debugging stmts into your lexer
1217856296 M * vargadani really?
1217856299 M * vargadani how do I do that?
1217856314 M * DavidS everything between { and } is C code
1217856383 M * vargadani DavidS: what you suggested worked perfect... thanx :)
1217856432 M * vargadani how does that help me with debugging ( the { } thing)
1217856463 M * DavidS you can see which tokens were already processed. that gives you clues to the point of error
1217856572 M * vargadani DavidS: oh... ok, I think I got it
1217856617 M * vargadani DavidS: so in the lexer file if I put something like  [a-zA-Z]+ VAR {printf("VAR");} than it will display VAR as it was processed, right?
1217856670 M * DavidS yeah, but since that won't return a value, you just introduced a bug there
1217856835 M * vargadani DevidS: [a-zA-Z]+ VAR {printf("VAR"); return VAR;} -> better ^_^
1217857336 M * DavidS :)
1217861035 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1217861237 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.203.164
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1217861823 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1217861992 M * vargadani DavidS: I have a minor problem, I am sure you can solve it in no time: http://codepad.org/uZxvOr4c
1217862065 M * DavidS vargadani: sure, but why should I do your assignments?
1217862095 M * vargadani DavidS: you are not doing my assignments... I am not even in collage yet... I do so that I learn how to do it
1217862102 M * DavidS good answer
1217862114 M * vargadani DavidS: practiced it... ^_^
1217862132 M * DavidS you have to find out how to "know" whether you're lexing a statement or stuff in-between
1217862189 M * vargadani DavidS: and how do I do that?
1217862202 M * DavidS read the spec of your language
1217862228 M * vargadani DavidS: maybe my life would be easier if you suggested a book that I should read and I would not rely on online material
1217862244 M * DavidS o'reilly comes to mind
1217862244 M * vargadani DavidS: the spec of my language? What is I write the language?
1217862260 M * vargadani DavidS: can you be a little bit more specific?
1217862262 M * DavidS vargadani: then you need to digest a book on compiler design first
1217862284 M * DavidS sorry, i'm up to my elbows in a prod server currently which isn'T prodding at all
1217862338 M * vargadani DavidS: what is a prod server?
1217862368 M * DavidS production ... the stuff that makes money
1217862404 M * DavidS or not, as it is in this specific case ... :-/
1217862552 M * vargadani DavidS: that sucks... what kinda problem is there?
1217862615 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1217862630 P * infowolfe_ 
1217862698 M * DavidS vargadani: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck
1217862718 M * DavidS " Military term for an operation in which multiple things have gone wrong."
1217862766 M * vargadani I c
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1217863222 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
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1217864902 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4AE55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1217866322 J * bboschman ~bboschman@p50997436.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1217866329 M * bboschman Hi
1217866344 M * bboschman what's a good solution to track which vserver is generating load?
1217866421 M * DavidS bboschman: vserver-stat shows user and system time per vserver
1217866496 M * bboschman DavidS, it doesn't seem to be cpu usuage. The server has ~95% idle
1217866528 M * bboschman but loadavg sometimes goes up to 3
1217866752 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
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1217868981 M * daniel_hozac DavidS: newer util-vservers use pid namespaces if the VS-API is >= 0x20303.
1217868995 M * daniel_hozac DavidS: but I don't think Bertl_oO has merged those patches yet, so expect breakage.
1217869104 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.203.164
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1217870772 Q * xdr Remote host closed the connection
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1217873311 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1217873816 J * marcfiu_ ~marcfiu@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
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1217875353 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
1217876003 M * fluor DavidS: hey, how's the packaing effort's going?
1217876050 M * fluor totally unrelated: I'd be interested about people's experience in running Linux-Vserver from within XEN, if it actually does make sense
1217876059 M * fluor s/about/in
1217876122 M * daniel_hozac sure it does.
1217876236 M * Bertl_oO fluor: it makes sense if you e.g. want to run Linux and non-Linux guests side by side
1217876245 M * Bertl_oO s/guests/domUs/
1217876535 M * vargadani DavidS: what do I need to do to resolve an undefined reference to yy_push_state and yy_pop_state sort of error in lex.yy.c?
1217876631 M * Bertl_oO vargadani: sure that is Linux-VServer related? :)
1217876642 M * vargadani No... I am sorry Herbert
1217876650 M * vargadani never mind fols
1217876683 M * Bertl_oO put it into goggle, I'm sure you get an answer on the first 5 hits
1217876738 M * fluor I don't want to run anything non-Linux (non-Debian, actually),
1217876748 M * fluor but I feel like having another layer of seperation,
1217876761 M * fluor to run 2 different virtual machines on one physical server
1217876779 M * fluor each machine being a different system/domain, with similar but independent services
1217876802 M * fluor of course, I could do the same without xen, by just deploying all the vservers under the host,
1217876805 M * Bertl_oO go ahead then, you can wrap it into Qemu/UML too :)
1217876819 M * fluor but it'd be messier somehow, and trickier network-wise, as I figured
1217876822 M * fluor oh my
1217876826 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-242-148.netcologne.de
1217876827 M * fluor don't you ever mention UML!
1217876852 M * fluor :)
1217876901 M * fluor I thought qemu was horribly slow, and my life was saved by discovering Linux-Vserver when UML was ruining it
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1217877292 J * ricola ~ricola@pepin.poivron.org
1217877868 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1217877874 M * Bertl welcome ricola!
1217878191 J * xdr ~xdr@134-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se
1217878212 M * Bertl welcome xdr!
1217878422 J * hparker hparker@linux.homershut.net
1217879188 M * xdr thx
1217879206 M * xdr wonder if it's possible to run a vserver inside a xen domU ...
1217879226 M * Bertl stop wonderings, yes it is for a few years now :)
1217879233 M * Bertl -s
1217879460 M * vargadani run vserver inside vserver?
1217879478 M * Bertl nope, that's not possible, as it is OS level virtualization
1217879509 M * fluor xdr: funny, I asked the same a few minutes ago
1217879514 M * fluor must be in the air or smthg :)
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1217879525 M * fluor I'm wondering how common that solution is though
1217879555 M * xdr fluor: hehe...  well I wanna make it work ;) prolly have to make some ugly hacks to the xen kernel
1217879568 M * daniel_hozac why?
1217879571 M * Bertl nah, works out of the box
1217879597 M * vargadani inside xen it is obvious that it works :)
1217879610 M * fluor what about the overhead?
1217879621 M * Bertl outside, inside whatver you want
1217879634 M * xdr I meant vserver inside a vserver inside a vserver inside a xen domU (no I don't ever have to take it to the extreme....(
1217879638 M * xdr )
1217879649 J * dna ~dna@146-205-dsl.kielnet.net
1217879652 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1217879659 M * daniel_hozac you can't nest Linux-VServer.
1217879668 M * Bertl xdr: as I said, Linux-VServer inside Linux-VServer is technically not possible
1217879690 M * xdr Bertl: well inside a xen domU then ;)
1217879691 M * Bertl xdr: what you can do (if you really want) is to make it hierarchically nestable
1217879710 M * fluor xdr: out of curiosity, why do _you_ want to do that?
1217879725 M * vargadani I suppose just for the heck of it
1217879732 M * xdr vargadani: correct
1217879765 M * xdr I allways leave like a third of my server ram for playing around
1217879776 M * vargadani xdr: if you get vserver run vserver, let us know (and yes I know that this is impossible [atm])
1217879801 M * xdr vargadani: running xen on the server atm
1217879815 M * vargadani xdr: poor thing... 
1217879827 A * vargadani really thinks that you should get rid of it...
1217879827 M * Bertl vargadani: no, it is impossible. period. :)
1217879857 M * xdr vargadani: well I actually like it .. gives me a lot of opportunities to mess things up :)
1217879883 M * vargadani I don't like the work impossible... a lot of things seemed so impossible just a couple of years ago and now here they are and even I understand the basics
1217879908 M * daniel_hozac obviously it's possible. it's just not going to be remotely similar to Linux-VServer.
1217879909 M * xdr vargadani: word?
1217879921 M * vargadani xdr: I would use xen for messing things up... for that it is perfect but I would not use it on a production server just because of the overhead
1217879944 M * vargadani xdr: yes that... :)
1217879946 M * fluor vargadani: could you develop on the overhead?
1217879959 M * fluor 'cause I'm asking for a production environment
1217880010 M * xdr vargadani: well I'm atm on a "education" stage ... my servers don't have to be online 24/7 (well according to me, the ppl I run the chatserver for has some nosey ccomments about the server beeing down sometimes)
1217880048 M * xdr they get it for free, sftu! +2 gigabitservers is online
1217880091 M * vargadani xdr: :)
1217880139 M * vargadani xdr: where are the servers... I wonder how much it costs to host a server on other parts of the world
1217880151 M * vargadani and just to host my vserver based servers!
1217880171 A * vargadani hopes that with that last sentence he won't get yelled at: OFF
1217880195 M * DavidS fluor: i messed my prod-server big time and am still recovering
1217880217 M * DavidS re vserver-in-domU, i had it for quite a while and i'm now on vserver-in-kvm
1217880241 M * vargadani I read that kvm is somewhat faster than xen
1217880323 M * DavidS vargadani: kvm is much more manageable than xen and much better integrated into the kernel
1217880363 M * Bertl xen isn't integrated at all, no?
1217880367 M * vargadani DavidS: I only dream about having a server that I can manage... for now I live the happy life of the eveyday highschool kids :)
1217880370 M * daniel_hozac domU is.
1217880401 M * vargadani Xen has kernel modules as well.. if we mean that as integration than it is somewhat integrated
1217880412 M * Bertl xen architecture support (which is required for paravirtualized domU) is :)
1217880516 M * xdr vargadani:  both of the servers is on an isp network (one of the admins works there) but I got 100
1217880531 M * xdr 100/100Mbit/s at home
1217880533 M * xdr fiber
1217880563 M * xdr I don't have support for kvm on my server at home
1217880624 M * vargadani what?
1217880630 M * daniel_hozac xdr: which ISP?
1217880633 M * vargadani xdr: how is that possible to have 100/100 at home?
1217880647 M * vargadani right... which ISP provides you 100/100
1217880648 M * fluor DavidS: kvm?! I thought this was for playing with funky OS's on the desktop
1217880652 M * xdr daniel_hozac: telia I think
1217880665 M * daniel_hozac hmm... i don't think i know anyone there.
1217880666 M * xdr vargadani: it's not unusal in sweden
1217880674 M * fluor DavidS: unfortunately, I don't have hardware support for kvm
1217880690 M * vargadani xdr: it is not or it is usual in sweden?
1217880696 M * xdr vargadani: it
1217880708 M * fluor DavidS: what were the issues you had with running vserver within DomU?
1217880716 M * xdr vargadani: it's not unusal to have be able to have that connections in sweden
1217880734 M * vargadani xdr: and how did you manage to get that fast?
1217880742 M * vargadani it is not usual here either
1217880769 M * xdr vargadani: we have fiberoptic cables into our apartament
1217880786 M * vargadani from directly the ISP?
1217880791 M * vargadani do you know some peeps there?
1217880817 M * xdr vargadani: I said that it wasn't UNusual (bah need to wake up before trying to talk english)
1217880829 M * vargadani uhh
1217880830 M * xdr vargadani: no, it's a about a standard connection
1217880830 M * vargadani dang...
1217880833 M * vargadani yeah
1217880849 M * vargadani dang.. I am moving to sweden
1217880856 M * xdr vargadani: 100/10 fiber is about ¤24
1217880856 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1217880857 M * vargadani I can't believe this
1217880861 M * vargadani 24...
1217880874 M * vargadani wow... sweden rocks
1217880887 M * fluor quite good indeed!
1217880912 M * xdr isp for me is blixtvik
1217880912 M * vargadani quite good? I would say kicks ass... here you can only have 20Mb/s at most
1217881029 M * vargadani I will start my own ISP
1217881040 M * vargadani and lay down some fibers in big cities ^_^
1217881044 M * DavidS fluor: issues? xen was the issue: no debug capas and cryptic configuration
1217881051 M * fluor mhh
1217881052 Q * vargadani Remote host closed the connection
1217881067 M * DavidS contrast this to this kvm nugget:
1217881068 M * DavidS kvm -hda /dev/mapper/system-kvmic -m 2000M -vnc 127.0.0.1:1 -usbdevice tablet -k de -net nic,macadd
1217881068 M * DavidS E:AD:BE:EF:23:42 -net tap -hdb /dev/system/vservers -hdc /dev/system/diode -hdd /dev/system/data
1217881079 M * DavidS sorry for the truncation
1217881102 M * fluor myeah, but network involves some weird bridging hacks
1217881119 M * DavidS but that's a complete virtual machine with four emulated discs from LVs, and a bridged network interface
1217881120 M * daniel_hozac "hacks"? it's really straight-forward.
1217881148 M * DavidS every process that wants to have a NIC must do it like this
1217881280 M * xdr well I'm off to eat some food
1217881372 J * quiksilv7 ~quiksilv@203.176.96.250
1217881394 Q * quiksilv Read error: Connection reset by peer
1217881478 M * xdr btw anyone know about a good webcam for linux (wanna be able to check out our cats when out of the house)
1217881528 M * daniel_hozac IME, any older one will work fine.
1217881537 M * daniel_hozac but you'll need out-of-tree drivers.
1217881771 M * DavidS g'night
1217881778 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1217881813 Q * sid3windr Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1217882346 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B49C9.dip.t-dialin.net
1217883002 J * fatgoose ~samuel@98.80.modemcable.oricom.ca
1217883808 J * Aiken ~Aiken@ppp121-45-211-74.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1217884016 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1217885625 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23CBD2.dip.t-dialin.net
1217885745 P * mfv debian/rules!
1217886456 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
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1217887555 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving.
1217888196 J * dniel ~ary@host15.190-30-25.telecom.net.ar
1217889039 J * ary ~ary@host209.190-31-150.telecom.net.ar
1217889253 N * dniel Guest275
1217889254 N * ary dniel
1217889451 Q * Guest275 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1217889580 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1217889723 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1217889951 Q * loddafnir Remote host closed the connection
1217890057 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving