1217030427 J * vargadanis ~vargadani@catv-598710d9.catv.broadband.hu 1217030446 M * Bertl wb vargadanis! 1217030505 M * vargadanis sorry, I am back again 1217030517 M * vargadanis just wanted to let you know that I sorta documented the 1217030531 M * vargadanis process of patching ubuntu 8.04 kernel 1217030543 M * vargadanis to get it run vserver 1217030545 M * vargadanis http://hungarydan.com/wp/?p=17#more-17 1217030597 M * Bertl okay, maybe check/merge with http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Ubuntu ? 1217030633 M * Guy- vargadanis: and how is this different from the generic kernel patching procedure, other than that you build the kernel with make-kpkg in the end? 1217030674 M * vargadanis no difference 1217030675 M * Bertl which would be this one: http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6 1217030700 M * vargadanis i didn't say that i invented the wheel 1217030712 M * Guy- I was asking out of curiosity 1217030717 M * vargadanis I just applied the docs on ubuntu 8.04 1217030723 M * Guy- maybe I had missed something... 1217030738 M * vargadanis and some peeps get the gumps if they cant see the exact os version in front of the docs 1217030755 M * vargadanis you didnt miss anything 1217030769 M * Guy- OK 1217030770 M * vargadanis btw... had to downgrade the kernel 1217030790 M * vargadanis never mind 1217030793 M * Guy- does it work with the udev in Ubuntu 8.04? 1217030801 M * vargadanis udev? 1217030805 M * Guy- yes 1217030814 M * Guy- new udev releases keep depending on newer kernels 1217030846 M * Guy- I'm not sure what kernel release the udev in gutsy requires, maybe 2.6.22 is fine 1217030887 M * vargadanis well I got all my fses mounted 1217030901 M * vargadanis the only thing that doesnt seem to work properly was the sounds card 1217030908 M * vargadanis restricted driver 1217030925 M * Guy- yeah, those are a pain 1217030980 M * vargadanis didnt bother about them 1217030989 M * vargadanis no need for 3d and sound card on a server 1217030999 M * vargadanis udev was first implemented in 2.6.13 1217031045 M * Bertl I presume those sound drivers are for a different kernel version, yes? 1217031070 M * arachnist 2.6.13? i remember playing with udev before that. it was just that devfs was removed in 2.6.12 or .13 1217031106 M * vargadanis yup 1217031116 M * vargadanis they are for a different kernel version 1217031138 M * vargadanis arachnist: according to wikipedia it is 2.6.13 1217031215 M * vargadanis why are they updating kernel 2.4? 1217031223 M * arachnist why not? 1217031226 M * vargadanis most distros use 2.6 1217031232 M * arachnist some people still use it 1217031243 M * vargadanis some peeps still use OS/2 1217031247 M * vargadanis they live in the past 1217031312 M * Bertl there are good reasons for a 2.4 or even 2.2. ekrnel (one would be size :) 1217031327 M * vargadanis makes sense 1217031342 M * vargadanis but I can imagine using those kernels only for embedded devices 1217031350 M * vargadanis and for single board computers 1217031363 M * Bertl but they also want updates there, no? :) 1217031461 M * vargadanis yup 1217031463 M * vargadanis they do 1217031487 M * vargadanis i will try to compile kernel1.0 1217031499 M * vargadanis with busybox 1217031501 M * vargadanis maybe 1217031502 M * vargadanis haha 1217031532 M * vargadanis ahm.. what was kernel version 2.5? 1217031540 M * vargadanis ive never seen a distrib with it 1217031581 M * Bertl even numbers are stable branches, odd numbers are devel branches (until 2.6, which is kind of devel and stable combined) 1217031605 M * vargadanis i c 1217031611 M * vargadanis thx for the info 1217031615 M * vargadanis now i really go 1217031620 M * vargadanis bye again 1217031626 Q * vargadanis Quit: Távozom 1217031627 M * Bertl cya 1217032024 M * Guy- the kids today. a 2.4 kernel's no longer good enough for them. 1217032066 J * doener ~doener@i577BB289.versanet.de 1217032171 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217032274 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1217032278 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217036586 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1217038489 J * Moser_____ ~chatzilla@Yba26.y.pppool.de 1217038761 J * krtek ~krtek@satfw1.epfl.ch 1217038771 M * Bertl welcome krtek! 1217038776 M * krtek Hi Bertl 1217038828 Q * Moser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217038831 N * Moser_____ Moser 1217038839 M * krtek I have a weird problem with vserver :( When I try to start my newly created guest, it silently failed 1217038932 M * krtek has someone have the same kind of issue ? 1217038932 M * Bertl please define 'failed'? 1217038964 M * krtek I can't access my guest after the start, vserver complains that it isn't started 1217039004 M * Bertl well, looks like it started then, but no services (inside the guest) kept running, so once the last process exits, the context (guest) is disposed 1217039028 M * Bertl solution: enable a service which keeps running inside the guest 1217039099 M * krtek clever idea :) don't think about that myself, I'll give a try 1217039444 M * krtek thanks Bertl, it's working after starting cron in the guest :) 1217039596 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1217043224 Q * hparker Quit: g'nite 1217043740 Q * krtek Quit: Leaving 1217045918 M * infotron *hiccup* 1217050837 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1217050851 M * infotron later 1217050854 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1217051604 J * dna ~dna@p54BCCE88.dip.t-dialin.net 1217053807 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A39473.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1217054417 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-243-126.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1217056943 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-76-254-59-208.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net 1217056951 Q * bronson 1217058052 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-76-254-59-208.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net 1217058058 Q * bronson Remote host closed the connection 1217058649 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1217059943 J * freepenguin ~freepengu@host43-124-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1217060116 Q * freepenguin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1217060895 J * datacompboy ~datacomp@l64-89-221.cn.ru 1217060983 M * datacompboy Hi all! How non-shared quotas works? Do I need to setup vroot on every reboot? 1217061123 Q * ktwilight Quit: dead 1217062591 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1217063086 P * datacompboy 1217064083 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1217065229 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-240-14.netcologne.de 1217065680 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217066914 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1217067735 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1217068668 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1217069678 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217069691 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1217070035 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1217070842 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-57-122-129.dclient.hispeed.ch 1217073902 J * JulIee ~a@116.71.182.97 1217073908 M * JulIee ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i Ned Staff 4 my SerVer ircops local aops server admin else And regsiter ur favorite chan in friendly envorment 1217073910 M * JulIee ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i Ned Staff 4 my SerVer ircops local aops server admin else And regsiter ur favorite chan in friendly envorment 1217073912 M * JulIee ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i Ned Staff 4 my SerVer ircops local aops server admin else And regsiter ur favorite chan in friendly envorment 1217073913 Q * JulIee autokilled: This host triggered network flood protection. please mail support@oftc.net if you feel this is in error, quoting this message. (2008-07-26 12:05:12) 1217074069 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217074224 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1217075464 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1217075769 J * RenOS ~renos@athedsl-214018.home.otenet.gr 1217075781 M * RenOS hello 1217075826 M * RenOS i have a problem compiling util-vserver on ubuntu 7.10 1217075853 M * RenOS has anyone done it? 1217075869 M * RenOS the compile fails when diet come into play 1217075915 M * RenOS http://pastebin.com/me65b622 1217076089 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1217076435 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1217077200 J * hparker|laptop ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1217077201 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1217077229 N * hparker|laptop hparker 1217077253 M * RenOS I'm using util-vserver 0.30.204 and I get this error: Unknown build-method 'template 1217077261 M * RenOS when I try to build a vserver 1217077273 M * RenOS I already have a template as .bz file 1217077278 M * RenOS which I'd like to use 1217077468 M * RenOS debootstrap methods works fine.... 1217078182 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1217079079 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.207.131 1217080982 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217081452 M * Mr_Smoke RenOS: your version of util-vserver is out of date 1217081726 M * RenOS Mr_Smoke, yes you are right. I installed the 0.30.212 package directly from the debian packages and it worked 1217081758 M * RenOS I managed to startup 2 vservers easily (looks very similar to freebsd jails) 1217081879 M * Mr_Smoke :) 1217081895 M * Mr_Smoke When in doubt, update ;) (carefully of course) 1217081919 M * RenOS Mr_Smoke, :-) 1217082972 M * RenOS is there a place I can find the capabilities and how to enable them? 1217083016 M * RenOS I read multiple articles and I seem to have compatibility essues 1217083018 M * RenOS issues 1217083047 M * RenOS ok, I got it! 1217083827 Q * RenOS Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217083883 J * phedny ~mark@2001:610:656::115 1217084211 J * RenOS ~renos@adsl57-95.kln.forthnet.gr 1217084592 J * fatgoose ~samuel@69-196-132-52.dsl.teksavvy.com 1217085960 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1217086303 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1217087803 J * ryker_ ~ryker@76.16.114.60 1217087827 Q * ryker resistance.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1217087905 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1217087927 M * Bertl morning folks! 1217088403 M * MooingLemur *yawn* :) 1217089673 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1217090421 M * trippeh Phew 1217090543 M * trippeh Drank 5 litres of fluids during the exercise, yet I'm 2 litres below my normal .. uh, body fluid balance when I got home 1217090546 M * trippeh It's too hot! 1217090567 M * trippeh And I'm thirsty :/ 1217090570 M * Bertl what's your 'normal'? 1217090601 M * trippeh 'normal' what I had when I left out the door :p 1217090751 M * trippeh On an equal trip I usually drink about 2-2,5 litres, and are almost in balance when I get home 1217090766 M * trippeh and is, even :) 1217090855 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1217091113 M * RenOS is there a way I can install a vserver through a CD? like installing a linux distro on a pc? 1217091123 M * pmjdebruijn no that I know of 1217091131 M * Bertl yes, like you install a linux distro on a pc :) 1217091139 M * RenOS I would like to be able to create a e.g. slackware vserver using the CDs 1217091141 M * pmjdebruijn vserver can be used with most Linux distro's 1217091152 M * pmjdebruijn oh wait 1217091155 M * Bertl RenOS: then go ahead, install it somewhere 1217091156 M * pmjdebruijn RenOS: you mean a guest 1217091166 M * RenOS pmjdebruijn, yes guest 1217091186 M * RenOS Bertl, how can I make it start a specific process on a mounted CD ? 1217091200 M * Bertl how's that related? 1217091208 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: he want to start the installer 1217091216 M * RenOS Bertl, excactly 1217091224 M * pmjdebruijn RenOS: you should probably ask in #slackware how it can be installed into a chroot 1217091236 M * Bertl well, I wouldn't suggest that, as you might end up with a formatted disk then :) 1217091265 M * Bertl install it somewhere on a scratch PC, or in a virtual environment like QEMU 1217091283 M * RenOS Bertl, then dump it to a file and use it as template? 1217091296 M * RenOS rdump it probably 1217091305 M * Bertl or simply copy it to a dir 1217091317 M * RenOS not a bad idea :-) 1217091324 M * RenOS thanks Bertl 1217091329 M * Bertl np 1217091366 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-78-94-125-184.hsi.ish.de 1217093208 Q * RenOS Quit: later... 1217093244 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1217093455 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1217093685 M * yang Hey Bertl is there a problem starting up inetd (talk/d) on guest ? 1217093721 Q * hparker 1217093727 M * yang I have the talkd lines in the inetd.conf however they are not starting then i restart inetd 1217093803 M * pmjdebruijn yang: they should work just fine 1217093813 M * pmjdebruijn yang: make sure inetd is listing on the right interface/ip 1217093837 M * pmjdebruijn sometimes a process in the host will listen on an interface 1217093841 M * pmjdebruijn ssh has this issue for example 1217093851 M * yang pmjdebruijn: I only have the talkd lines in inetd.conf nothing about the interfaces 1217094175 M * Bertl yang: inetd is a superdaemon which 'connects' the services, so it's not always necessary to start a service when inetd is started 1217094206 M * Bertl (also there are many reasons for a service (under inetd) not starting properly) 1217095469 J * yarihm ~yarihm@77-57-122-129.dclient.hispeed.ch 1217096213 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1217098258 J * yoser ~Jogeraca@190.9.90.78 1217098323 P * yoser Saliendo 1217100659 M * yang this is the line "talk dgram udp wait nobody.tty /usr/sbin/in.talkd in.talkd" 1217100706 M * Bertl and what happens if you try to coonect to the port? 1217101267 M * yang connect to the udp port? 1217101311 M * daniel_hozac micah: did you see that i uploaded a pre2750 tarball? 1217101483 M * yang Bertl: i get ytalk error - no talk daemon on localhost 1217101538 M * Bertl well, that can have many reasons, try to connect to the port, check that it is bound with lsof, amke sure that it _isn_t_ bound by the host's inetd 1217101722 M * yang nope host doesnt have talkd service enabled 1217102115 J * phedny ~mark@2001:610:656::115 1217102235 M * yang here is the reason - Jul 26 21:56:16 uranus inetd[15750]: ident/tcp: bind: Address already in use 1217102265 M * Bertl so something _is_ already bound there :) 1217102335 M * yang yes this bident, which is tcp , but talkd is udp 1217102361 M * Bertl nevertheless something is trying to bind a tcp port, no? 1217102383 M * yang I only have 3 lines in /etc/inetd.conf 1217102397 M * yang # ident stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/bidentd bidentd 1217102397 M * yang talk dgram udp wait nobody.tty /usr/sbin/in.talkd in.talkd 1217102400 M * yang # ntalk dgram udp wait nobody.tty /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd in.ntalkd 1217102474 M * Bertl check with strace -fF 1217102564 M * yang Bertl: after that anything extra needs to be applied? 1217102589 M * Bertl you prepend the strace -fF to the process (in this case the inetd) 1217102627 M * yang ok 1217103635 M * yang Bertl: could you take a look at http://www.pastebin.sk/en/7569/ if you see something ? 1217103793 M * Bertl still loading 1217103990 M * Bertl no error till line 261 (where it stops) 1217104006 M * Bertl it did sucessfully bind port 517 1217104337 M * yang netstat -plont |grep 517 doesnt show an open port 1217104396 M * Bertl well, can't say that is was kept open, but it was opened and bound on startup (in your strace) 1217104418 M * yang ah, well it seems that something is stopping it to bind permanently 1217104548 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-243-126.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1217104863 M * yang thanks for looking bertl, I am going to bed now 1217104869 M * Bertl okay 1217106485 J * vargadani ~vargadani@catv-598710d9.catv.broadband.hu 1217106490 M * vargadani hi all 1217106562 M * Bertl hi 1217107498 M * micah daniel_hozac: no, I didn't. i just pulled r2750 and used that, should I try to get anything more in? 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