1216685219 Q * fatgoose Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216686464 J * doener ~doener@i577BA451.versanet.de 1216686567 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216686608 J * esa` ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1216686621 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216686822 Q * pmjdebruijn Server closed connection 1216686823 J * pmjdebruijn ~pascal@jester.pcode.nl 1216687188 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1216689446 J * segfault_ ~segfault@softwarelivre.net 1216689483 M * Bertl segfault, nice nick :) 1216689526 M * segfault_ Bertl: :) 1216689620 P * segfault_ 1216692799 Q * tam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216693899 J * misc-- ~misc@122.2.122.190 1216693939 M * misc-- hello... I created a guest but when I start it, a few seconds go by then nothing happens, the guest is still not started. Is there a way I can make it be a bit more verbose when starting the guests? 1216693973 M * Bertl sure, just add '--debug', although I doubt it will help in your case 1216694025 M * misc-- that's better than nothing =) 1216694161 M * Bertl what probably happens is that your guest commits suicide (in some way :) 1216694170 M * misc-- if I run -v for verbose then it shows me my new security context 1216694174 M * misc-- yeah 1216694189 M * Bertl i.e. nothing keeps running inside after basic startup, which terminates the security context 1216694191 M * misc-- it's fine to install a debian distribution guest as part of a centos host right? 1216694202 M * misc-- ah right ok 1216694213 M * Bertl sure, definitely, and recent tools should get that right and working too 1216694226 M * Bertl care to share some details about kernel and util-vserver version? 1216694274 M * misc-- yep util versions is 0.30.216 and kernel is 2.6.22 1216694310 M * Bertl I hope a Linux-VServer patch is involved too :) 1216694361 M * misc-- oh, of course :) the full kernel version is 2.6.22.10-vs2.3.0.29.1 1216694376 M * misc-- I have about 10 other guests all running fine 1216694384 M * Bertl okay, is an older experimental version, but should be fine 1216694397 M * Bertl how did you create the debian guest? 1216694494 M * misc-- it was created like this: vserver eeerepo build -m debootstrap --hostname=eeerepo.mydomain.com --interface eth0:192.168.1.229/255.255.255.0 -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian 1216694515 M * misc-- I have pasted the last part of the debug when I run it here: http://pastebin.com/m29b88fe5 1216694570 J * Moser_____ ~chatzilla@Zd525.z.pppool.de 1216694571 N * Moser_____ Moser 1216694580 M * Bertl in line 69 the further control of the guest processes is transferred to the rc script 1216694589 M * Bertl (which is inside the guest) 1216694594 M * misc-- yep... 1216694604 M * misc-- and then is_executed=1... 1216694622 M * Bertl that, for some reason, does not leave any processes inside the guest running 1216694639 M * Bertl so your best chances are to check the logs _inside_ the guest for hints 1216694644 M * misc-- is it safe to run that manually on the command line? 1216694646 M * misc-- ahhh ok 1216694650 M * misc-- will do then, thanks! 1216694683 M * Bertl yes you can run the entire line 69 on the command line too 1216694692 M * misc-- alright great thanks 1216694713 M * Bertl (just make sure to be in the right directory :) 1216694739 M * misc-- heh cool 1216694783 M * Bertl if I'd had to make a wild guess, I'd say the guest has only one service configured (syslog?) which for whatever reason fails 1216694907 Q * Moser____ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216695092 J * balbir ~balbir@204.50.130.82 1216695232 M * misc-- ok well... if I run that long command from /etc/vservers/eeerepo/vdir dir then it doesn't seem to fail ($? returns 0). If I check the logs in that guest, well, there is no messages file but there is a bootstrap.log and the last thing it says is Setting up tasksel (2.74.2) ... nothing else of interest 1216695292 M * misc-- actually there is no services according to the /etc/rc2.d aside from local 1216695304 M * Bertl as I said, nothing fails on the guest startup, probably something fails _inside_ the guest, or the guest isn't configured to run any services, in which case the shutdown is intentional 1216695333 M * misc-- I'd say you are right.. makes sense 1216695341 M * Bertl runlevel 2 is the default now? always thought debian had rlvl 3 1216695386 M * misc-- according to inittab it's run level 2 1216695413 M * Bertl /etc/init.d/rc 3 1216695427 M * Bertl then you should re-configure your guest 1216695450 M * Bertl (and of course, enable some services there :) 1216695500 M * misc-- the host (Centos) is run level 3 but this debian guest is run level 2... Debian definitely uses run level 2 (well I'm not sure for how long but it does now apparently) 1216695518 M * misc-- yeah I think if I install syslog then that will keep it up 1216695579 M * misc-- I don't think I can use vyum... oh good there is a vapt-get. OK that should do it 1216695597 M * Bertl definitely, the only unusual thing is, that should have been isntalled and enabled as default (from the post install scripts) 1216695630 J * los7 ~los7@97-113-26-119.tukw.qwest.net 1216695633 Q * kaner Server closed connection 1216695636 J * kaner ~kaner@zzz.strace.org 1216695679 M * misc-- hmmm yeah it should have. It does that to all the other guests I have built (however they're only other Centos ones). Just realized that the vserver needs to be up before I can use vapt-get 1216695903 Q * mrjack Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216696124 Q * los7 Quit: Ex-Chat 1216696250 M * misc-- don't understand that. If I run /usr/sbin/rsyslogd as part of rc.local then all good. Linking it to rc2 however doesn't work but rc3 did so I guess you are right there, I read that it was rc2 run level. Oh well. Just have to add it to rcS as well, then all good 1216696455 Q * loddafni1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216696582 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1216696738 M * misc-- seems to be good now. Is it possible to run X inside a guest? It would be good to have a host then inside that is my guest which is my desktop. Would be great..... 1216696775 M * Bertl both, X server and client can be run, but usually all you want to run is either a vnc x11 or x11 apps 1216696841 M * misc-- I was thinking of actually running a full desktop environment through there, with all the bells and whistles... only problem I could see was access to the hardware but I think you can bind /dev to a guest so that the nvidia driver would work and everything else it needs (mouse etc) 1216696893 M * Bertl to some extend, but usually X11 itself requires direct access to all memory/port space (because it is crappily written :) 1216696973 M * misc-- ahhh right ok. That's a shame... would be a really clean setup to have the host taking care of some hardware like the networking side of things, then the guest doing other things. Then you can try different dists without worry about wireless stuffing up, easily snapshot running guest before you try some major change etc 1216696979 M * misc-- I guess there are other ways to get around it though 1216697003 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216697025 M * Bertl you can do that without putting X11 into a guest too :) 1216697044 M * Bertl that's what a vnc based X server or x11 forwarding is for 1216697143 M * misc-- yeah... vnc is good and all but I don't see the point of running X on a server... unless it has to in which case would probably just use x11 forwarding unless it's over a slow link 1216698278 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection 1216698831 Q * svenk Server closed connection 1216698833 J * svenk ~sven@213.73.89.36 1216698854 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1216699317 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya! 1216699327 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1216700398 N * nenolod_ nenolod 1216700895 M * misc-- thanks for your help, cya 1216701043 J * datacompboy ~datacomp@l64-89-221.cn.ru 1216701058 M * datacompboy Hi all! How to setup vrsetup for alive after reboot? 1216701068 M * datacompboy Looks like it needs to be run every time? 1216703583 Q * datacompboy Quit: Õðÿï 1216705738 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.65.107 1216707050 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1216707050 T * ChanServ - 1216707634 J * datacompboy ~datacomp@l64-89-221.cn.ru 1216707707 M * datacompboy Hi all! I have two vservers, vbq1 and vbq2 setup in /vservers; have enabled on host quotase on it; have enabled two different vroot's (for one common device /dev/sda3), and prepared quotase in vservers 1216707728 M * datacompboy Now everything works fine, except of all quotas setup in vbq1 are also set for vbq2, and vice versa 1216707741 M * datacompboy what's wrong? why quota limits shared across vservers?! 1216708273 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1216709270 J * dna ~dna@180-240-dsl.kielnet.net 1216710866 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216710872 Q * datacompboy Quit: Õðÿï 1216712896 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1216713303 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216714202 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216714652 Q * bXi Server closed connection 1216714653 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk 1216715001 J * opuk_ ~kupo@82.117.110.202 1216715427 Q * opuk_ Quit: leaving 1216719911 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1216720647 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216721021 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1216721368 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216722382 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-145-230.lns4.mel6.internode.on.net 1216722475 J * jsambrook1 ~jsambrook@host-62-69-64-93.bsve.net 1216722719 J * balbir ~balbir@204.50.130.82 1216723330 J * mrjack ~mrjack@p54B58344.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1216723333 M * mrjack hi 1216723445 J * user ~user@athedsl-302115.home.otenet.gr 1216723453 M * user hello all 1216723477 M * user someone here using vserver for commercial vps hosting? 1216723477 N * user Guest717 1216723537 N * Guest717 Renos 1216723712 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1216723982 M * mrjack Renos: yes 1216724014 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.192.57 1216724024 M * Renos mrjack hello. 1216724039 M * Renos I'm just wondering if you had any stability issues 1216724050 M * mrjack Renos: not in the last 5 years. 1216724054 M * Renos :-) 1216724059 M * Renos that's great 1216724082 M * Renos Im planning on using vps for a small web hosting company but I don't want to use openvz 1216724097 M * mrjack well, then just use linux-vserver :) 1216724358 M * Renos that is the plan 1216724359 M * Renos i 1216724378 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216724380 M * Renos I'm using freebsd jails for the past 4 years happily but clients want linuxas well 1216724429 M * mrjack for customers which do not want linux-vserver, i only offer vmware servers 1216724438 Q * zbyniu Server closed connection 1216724439 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl 1216724463 M * Renos how come you're not using xen? 1216724465 M * mrjack but there are not much customers... 1216724500 M * mrjack Renos: the customers using vmware have rented their systems somewhat 2003 where xen was not so public spread. 1216724503 M * Renos mrjack yes, you're right 1216724571 M * Renos mrjack do you use a software to manage and provision the vservers? 1216724612 M * mrjack i have just some custom made scripts, and accounting is done on our routers. 1216724681 M * Renos not a bad idea to use routers and netflow! 1216724688 M * Renos thanks for the tip 1216724723 M * mrjack you could even just use net-acct on the host-system 1216724872 M * Renos i think the router aproach + ntop can give realtime data as well to diagnose netwrork performance problems 1216726750 N * phedny joost 1216726860 N * joost phedny 1216728701 Q * DoberMann Server closed connection 1216728709 M * harry_ pong! ;) 1216728714 J * DoberMann ~james@cap31-6-88-180-72-76.fbx.proxad.net 1216728718 M * harry_ (just to show you that i'm still alive ;)) 1216729029 J * docelic_ ~docelic@78.134.198.171 1216729245 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1216729431 Q * docelic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216730053 Q * Renos Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216730142 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.64.142 1216730218 M * mrjack hm, is there a way to show the vservers load with vserver-stat? 1216730405 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp3-195.ethz.ch 1216730686 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1216730689 M * pmjdebruijn mrjack: doesn't it already? 1216730723 M * mrjack no, it just displays CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1216730729 M * mrjack but not the actual load 1216730743 M * pmjdebruijn oh ok 1216730744 M * pmjdebruijn my bad 1216731090 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1216731095 M * Bertl morning folks! 1216731487 J * infotron_ ~infotron@166.70.62.200 1216731498 Q * infotron Read error: Connection reset by peer 1216732094 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1216732284 Q * jsambrook Quit: Leaving. 1216734121 P * friendly 1216734182 Q * blathijs Server closed connection 1216734183 J * blathijs ~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl 1216736364 J * disposable ~disposabl@blackhole.sk 1216736526 M * disposable i need to compile my 2.6.18 (debian) kernel with vserver support. the table at http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads is a bit confusing as the few diff files listed seem to be bound to certain kernel versions. which patch should i download from where for my 2.6.18 debian etch kernel? 1216736618 Q * franck34_ Server closed connection 1216736619 J * franck34 franck34@sd-10138.dedibox.fr 1216736628 M * Bertl well, it will not be easy to patch your 2.6.18-debian kernel :) 1216736665 M * Bertl but the main question is, why would you want to do that in the first place? 1216736862 M * disposable because i need a preemptible one with timer set to 1000Hz for asterisk servers 1216736914 M * Bertl sounds good to me, but why 2.6.18-debian? 1216736914 M * arachnist ok 1216736922 M * arachnist why 2.6.18-debian? 1216736943 M * disposable Bertl: stable, sources with debian patches available as a package 1216736980 M * Bertl well, then you should get the debian vserver kernel (Source) and rebuild that, if you prefer nostalgia :) 1216736982 M * arachnist disposable: make-kpkg is your friend 1216737001 M * disposable arachnist: indeed it is, but patches it does not find for me 1216737044 M * arachnist disposable: btw, NO_HZ (tickless) works better than 1000Hz 1216737060 M * disposable arachnist: that is good to know 1216737079 A * arachnist has vserver with NO_HZ 1216737092 M * Bertl disposable: google for 2.6.18-6-vserver 1216737282 M * disposable Bertl: that one gave me rtc errors and it isn't preemptible 1216737300 M * Bertl as I said, you have to re-build it from the source 1216737348 M * disposable Bertl: there isn't any source for that kernel on packages.debian.org 1216737352 M * Bertl (after changing the .config options) 1216737395 M * Bertl disposable: IIRC, debian is free software and open source, so in case of doubt, ask the debian folks for the source (kernel is GPLv2) 1216737592 M * disposable Bertl: i'll contact the guy who maintains the vserver version of that kernel. thanks anyway 1216737630 M * Bertl that'd be micah, and you can find him here too 1216737653 M * disposable Bertl: :) 1216737820 M * arachnist i'd try apt-get source 1216737825 M * arachnist or something like that 1216737836 A * arachnist doesn't remember debian very well 1216738119 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1216738310 M * disposable Bertl: arachnist: i've got the patch now :) http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch6.diff.gz 1216738821 M * Bertl congrats! 1216740478 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1216740498 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1216740814 Q * jsambrook1 Quit: Leaving. 1216741879 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1216742584 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1216743791 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1216744360 J * fatgoose_ ~samuel@85.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1216744448 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1216744846 Q * fatgoose_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216745033 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp3-150.ethz.ch 1216745192 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1216745368 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.67.38 1216745771 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216746482 Q * franck34 resistance.oftc.net 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franck34@sd-10138.dedibox.fr 1216746584 J * blathijs ~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl 1216746584 J * arachnist arachnist@atlnts.org 1216746584 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1216746584 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1216746584 J * BobR_oO odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1216746584 J * eyck Ta0oyL8p@nat05.nowanet.pl 1216746584 J * localghost anders@ies57-061.ies.luth.se 1216746584 J * weasel weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net 1216746584 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1216746584 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org 1216746584 J * C14r ~C14r@h58173.serverkompetenz.net 1216746584 J * lownoize_ ~lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de 1216746584 J * michal ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1216746584 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1216746584 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1216746584 J * fanto666 fantomas@fantomas.fantomas.sk 1216747091 J * yarihm_ ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-48.ethz.ch 1216747468 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216747646 J * Linus_ ~Nuhx@bl7-156-40.dsl.telepac.pt 1216748048 Q * Linus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216748213 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1216749091 Q * nou Remote host closed the connection 1216749698 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1216750346 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1216750353 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216750874 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1216750977 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1216753805 Q * loddafnir Quit: Leaving. 1216754646 Q * docelic_ Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1216754973 M * mrjack re 1216754979 M * Bertl wb 1216755151 M * mrjack did vserver 1.2 had loopback device enabled as default within a vserver? 1216755185 M * Bertl definitely not, why? 1216755221 M * mrjack because one of my users complain about not having loopback device any more.. but i think i never setup loopback for the vservers.. 1216755255 M * Bertl we are talking about 'lo' as in network loopback or about 'loop0' as in loopback file 1216755279 M * mrjack i mean lo as a network loopback device. 1216755287 M * mrjack not the block loop dev. 1216755306 M * Bertl well, you should have that in 'new' guests unless you explicitely disable it 1216755332 M * mrjack as you know, i converted from 1.2 config style to the new config-style, maybe i missed something out.. 1216755343 M * Bertl what is your kernel/patch version? 1216755357 Q * yarihm_ Quit: Leaving 1216755380 M * mrjack do i just have to add a interface? 1216755407 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-147-78-95.bhm.bellsouth.net 1216755415 M * Bertl no, you do not add 'lo' ips unless you exactly know what you're doing :) 1216755415 M * mrjack i use debian Kernel: 2.6.18-5-vserver-k7 1216755415 M * mrjack VS-API: 0x00020002 1216755415 M * mrjack util-vserver: 0.30.212; Dec 9 2006, 12:26:51 1216755443 M * Bertl update to a vs2.2 (stable) kernel or vs2.3 with auto-loopback 1216755460 M * mrjack oh no, not again :-P 1216755490 M * Bertl ah, right, you are that debian person :) .. so in this case, complain to micah :) 1216755514 M * Bertl but I do not see why 2.0.2 shouldn't show lo 1216755531 M * mrjack i have no problem compiling my own kernels, but if i had this info before, then i would have compiled my kernels myself instead of just installing debian kernel :) 1216755587 M * mrjack well, in interfaces i just have 0/ with dev ip and name 1216755608 M * Bertl that's fine 1216755623 M * mrjack ls 1216755626 M * mrjack oops :) 1216755638 M * Bertl my_first_file.txt 1216755642 M * mrjack lol. 1216755685 M * Bertl what does 'ip addr ls' show on the host and inside the guest? 1216755693 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1216755728 J * geb ~geb@AOrleans-151-1-84-132.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr 1216755737 M * geb hi 1216755758 M * Bertl mrjack: but actually, it could be that 2.0 didn't show lo .. not sure and I don't have a 2.0 installation at hand to check 1216755772 M * Bertl hey geb! 1216755795 M * mrjack http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12319 1216755854 M * mrjack http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12320 1216755889 M * Bertl interesting setup ... 1216755894 M * mrjack why? 1216755907 M * Bertl you have each address as /24 and /32 as it seems (i.e. twice) 1216755928 M * mrjack yes, i think this is because when i restarted with the new kernel, first all vservers started with legacy config style 1216755932 M * Bertl and you use very unintuitive aliases (which aren't required) 1216755935 M * mrjack then i created the new configs 1216755956 M * mrjack and restarted each vserver, so there are currently old ip's assigned which should vanish after a reboot 1216755958 M * Bertl you might want to remove them manually (the /32 ones) 1216755972 M * Bertl (ip addr del ...) 1216755973 M * mrjack no 1216755979 M * mrjack i need the /32 ones, not the /24 1216755987 M * mrjack i am routing subnets directly to the host. 1216756001 M * Bertl hmm? 1216756071 M * mrjack lets say, a vserver-host system has 16 vservers running, then i give a static ip to my host-server, and then directly route the vserver-ip's to the host's ip 1216756089 M * Bertl why? 1216756099 M * mrjack why? 1216756107 M * mrjack because it is nice :) 1216756116 M * mrjack so i have every host system in a separate vlan 1216756117 M * Bertl well, it won't be routed by the host :) 1216756125 M * mrjack yes, that is no problem 1216756137 M * Bertl so why use /32 not /24 ? 1216756143 M * mrjack because there is no /24 1216756157 M * Bertl ah, you have no networks? 1216756189 M * mrjack i have networks :-) e.g. for my host-system vlinux01 i route a /27 to the hosts ip to use it as /32 within the vservers. 1216756235 M * mrjack and those ip's listed with ip addr ls whic are currently /24 should vanish after a reboot 1216756247 M * mrjack because they were set with the legacy config 1216756332 M * Bertl well, you can use /32 if you like, but I'd use the actual network prefix 1216756341 M * mrjack this won't work 1216756363 M * mrjack the host has a different network 1216756365 M * mrjack eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0B:6A:32:38:63 1216756365 M * mrjack inet addr:91.204.168.162 Bcast:91.204.168.191 Mask:255.255.255.224 1216756456 M * Bertl if it works for you :) 1216756464 M * mrjack sure why should it not. 1216756491 M * Bertl no specific reason, just not the 'typical' setup 1216756508 M * mrjack what is a typical setup? 1216756522 M * mrjack just put hosts in a /24 and share that ip space with the vservers? 1216756533 M * Bertl several networks, each one with a proper routing table and source based routing 1216756562 M * mrjack well it is what i have, but i just have it well segmented. 1216756598 M * Bertl k, fine 1216756640 M * mrjack looks somewhat like this: 1216756640 M * mrjack 91.204.170.0 255.255.255.224 91.204.168.162 vlan28 1644673 1216756640 M * mrjack - direct 0 static 1 60 1216756661 M * Bertl which is _not_ /32 :) 1216756687 M * mrjack yes, that is because i want to do traffic shaping/packet limiting on a per port setup. 1216756711 M * mrjack currently there are max. 32 host servers per rack 1216756736 M * mrjack 91.204.168.160 255.255.255.224 0.0.0.0 vlan28 1647634 1216756736 M * mrjack - direct 0 interface 1 0 1216756762 M * mrjack so why should i route more than 32 ip's on that port to that rack, i can't use more there is no more space left :-) 1216756796 M * Bertl /32 is a _single_ ip 1216756800 M * mrjack yes 1216756813 M * mrjack that is true, but i don't route /32 to the vserver's host-system 1216756842 M * Bertl so why do you configure the guests to assume it was /32 then? 1216756881 M * mrjack because anyway it does not make sense to use something else than /32 - there is no gateway in that network, no broadcast, etc.. 1216756918 M * Bertl okay, that is a valid point .. although a somewhat untypical setup 1216756929 M * mrjack i would say structured :) 1216756965 Q * hparker Quit: Off for a road trip 1216757079 M * mrjack but anyways, what about the loopback device? 1216757108 M * Bertl as I said, 2.0 is so long ago, I neither do remember, nor do I have a system to test 1216757136 M * Bertl but it could be that 'lo' wasn't shown there .. check with micah, I'm pretty sure he has a test system somewhere 1216757174 M * geb how can i heck my vserver version ? i may have one 1216757206 M * Bertl your API says 2.0.2, normally the kernel name 'uname -a' shows the vs patch version 1216757210 M * daniel_hozac lo isn't shown pre-2.3. 1216757328 M * mrjack is ist just not shown, or not available? 1216757366 M * mrjack Linux vlinux01 2.6.18-5-vserver-k7 #1 SMP Wed Dec 19 00:16:08 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 1216757373 M * mrjack debian stock kernel. 1216757418 M * geb you should be able to use that: 1216757435 M * geb echo 127.0.0.1 > /etc/vservers/vs-name/interfaces/1/ 1216757444 M * geb grrr 1216757446 M * geb echo 127.0.0.1 > /etc/vservers/vs-name/interfaces/1/ip 1216757453 M * geb echo lo > /etc/vservers/vs-name/interfaces/1/dev 1216757456 M * mrjack so add a separate int? 1216757519 M * geb yes 1216757534 M * Bertl don't do that 1216757542 M * mrjack why? 1216757563 M * geb ? 1216757567 M * Bertl because it will give you access to host (and potentially other guest's 127.0.0.1) 1216757590 M * mrjack hm, k 1216757609 M * Bertl there is a reason why we did lo isolation in 2.3.x 1216757626 M * mrjack so i should upgrade to 2.3.x - is it stable? 1216757629 M * geb what's better (for those who don't have 2.3.x) ? a tun / tap for each vserver ? 1216757646 M * Bertl for what? 1216757666 Q * Linus_ Quit: Lost terminal 1216757671 M * Bertl mrjack: no, vs2.3 is the development branch 1216757676 M * geb for having a loopback interface per vserver (or simulating it) 1216757698 M * Bertl geb: if you want that, get vs2.3, otherwise the guests are fine without 1216757713 M * geb ok :) 1216757748 Q * AndrewLee Remote host closed the connection 1216757774 M * geb that's not a necessary for now for my usage 1216757848 M * daniel_hozac worth noting: I've been running 2.3 since we added IPv6, and i'm not aware of any bugs. 1216757903 M * daniel_hozac 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