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1216432021 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1216432024 M * Bertl back now ...
1216432036 M * hparker wb
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1216435901 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1216435906 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1216440036 M * laptopnenolod why do apps not dump core in vservers?
1216440052 M * laptopnenolod and how do i make them dump core? /etc/security/limits.conf is ignored in the vserver
1216440149 J * ReaCT ~ReaCT@75.141.193.228
1216440184 M * ReaCT any here know why core dumps seem to fail in vserver?, i have ulimit -c unlimited and the dumps fail in every one of my vservers
1216440199 M * ReaCT i am currently running 2.6.22-3-vserver-amd64
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1216462783 J * yury ~yury@adsl-67-119-195-182.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net
1216462896 M * yury hi, I need a little help moving a vserver. I had a vserver running on 2.6.22.14-vs2.2.0.5. I rsync'ed it over to a 2.6.18-6-vserver debian kernel with whatever version etch happens to use. I am having some trouble with permissions. When the server starts, the files are owned by the wrong users.
1216463082 M * tokkee yury: Did you use --numeric-ids when rsync'ing?
1216463092 M * yury no, I don't think so
1216463104 M * yury anything else I should do?
1216463109 M * tokkee That _might_ be the problem...
1216463119 M * yury ok, let me try.
1216463130 M * yury One more question, I keep hearing about setattr --barrier
1216463139 M * yury I did not do that originally, should I have?
1216463140 M * tokkee -a might be useful as well - see the manpage...
1216463150 M * yury I tried it, and my vserver will not start
1216463159 M * yury I read about it preventing a chroot break out
1216463168 M * yury but when I set it on my vserver copy, I cannot start it
1216463174 M * tokkee You don't _have_ to but it adds some more security - you should read the documentation about it.
1216463192 M * yury I believe the error was vcontext: chroot(): Permission denied 
1216463303 M * yury I support I should have copied with numeric ids for my user data as well, then
1216463543 M * NaioN yury: you need to set the barrier on the directory below the vserver guest...
1216463630 M * NaioN if you have a guest in /var/vservers/<guest> you have to set the barrier on /var/vservers
1216463638 M * yury what do you mean below? on each individual subdir? /bin /sbin ...
1216463647 M * yury oh
1216463649 M * yury I see
1216463661 M * yury so that's how barrier works
1216463686 M * yury it will not let two vservers see each other, if it's on the directory above?
1216463710 M * NaioN so if you have all vservers in /var/vservers if assume they can't breakout to the host system, but i assume they can breakout to each other
1216463726 M * NaioN yury: yes i think they can do that
1216463730 M * yury that's nasty
1216463745 M * yury I guess I can split them up further
1216463745 M * NaioN no you can use XID's on the vserver directory
1216463756 M * yury I would have to mount with that option
1216463766 M * yury I wonder if etch vserver patch supports it
1216463779 M * NaioN yes as far is i know
1216463804 M * NaioN so every vserver tree gets its own XID and that way they can't breakout to each other
1216463821 M * NaioN and the barrier is for preventing to breakout to the host system... 
1216463836 M * NaioN i think it works that way... not 100% sure...
1216463854 M * yury thanks
1216463857 M * NaioN np
1216463955 M * yury looks like that did the trick
1216463964 M * yury tokkee: thanks
1216463966 M * yury it worked
1216464028 M * NaioN if you don't use the numeric-ids to transfer between different host rsync uses the passwd file to lookup the names and if you have the same user with a different uid you end up with different uids on all files
1216464028 M * yury now I need to figure out why it is trying to read my kernel module dep map
1216464038 M * yury NaioN: yeah, I got that
1216464045 M * yury I didn't know how vserver did permissions
1216464051 M * yury sort of assumed it had a db somewhere
1216464059 M * yury but I guess it just uses uids
1216464074 M * yury I know, silly assumption
1216464130 M * yury ah, cupsys is trying to modprobe stuff
1216464188 M * yury alright, thanks a lot guys
1216464211 M * yury quite impressed with vservers now
1216464559 M * tokkee NaioN, yury: Iirc, vservers cannot break out to each other.
1216464577 M * yury well... if they can break you to the parent dir
1216464585 M * yury why can't they just decend down another?
1216464588 M * yury *out
1216464598 M * tokkee They can't get to the parent directory.
1216464628 M * tokkee When trying to get there, you'd get EACCESS...
1216464647 M * yury but the barrier is on the parent dir, not on the vserver guest dir
1216464670 M * tokkee Right...
1216464718 M * tokkee The barrier is not meant to be "you cannot _pass_ here" but rather "you cannot _get_ to here".
1216464745 M * tokkee So, the parent dir is the right place to put the barrier on.
1216464767 M * yury counter intuitive
1216464772 M * yury anyway, thanks
1216464780 M * yury I'll try that right after I get some kinks out
1216464785 M * yury the transition was not seemless
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1216472867 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
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1216473596 M * rgl hi
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1216486865 J * datacompboy ~datacompb@90.189.223.124
1216486885 M * datacompboy Hi everybody! Can someone helps me with really stupid question?
1216486988 M * datacompboy I have CentOS 5 host, and CentOS 4 guest. Trying to enable quoate in guest.
1216487006 M * datacompboy host mounted with  (rw,usrquota,grpquota)
1216487021 M * datacompboy guest done as http://linux-vserver.org/Standard_non-shared_quota, but can't do quotaon: 
1216487065 M * datacompboy [root@ip-72-167-164-162 ~]# quotaon -a
1216487065 M * datacompboy quotaon: using //aquota.group on /dev/sda3 [/]: Device or resource busy
1216487065 M * datacompboy quotaon: using //aquota.user on /dev/sda3 [/]: Device or resource busy
1216487117 M * datacompboy oo! excellent! as far, as i found -- just quotaon on host fix problem.
1216487124 M * datacompboy thanks for all :) see you
1216487126 P * datacompboy 
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1216490514 M * mrjack_ re
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1216493828 M * mrjack_ i love vserver!
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1216500782 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1216500787 M * Bertl evening folks!
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