1216254035 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1216254042 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1216254394 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B95DF.versanet.de 1216254496 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216259403 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1216259988 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1216260813 Q * FaUl Server closed connection 1216261082 J * Moser_ ~chatzilla@X860e.x.pppool.de 1216261486 Q * Moser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216262273 J * fly_wolfcn ~root@114.231.245.34 1216262375 J * ary ~ary@host158.200-117-119.telecom.net.ar 1216262421 N * ary dniel 1216262465 M * dniel hi! can somebody help me? 1216262480 M * dniel I have problem with the unification 1216262491 M * fly_wolfcn what's wrong with you? dniel 1216262549 M * dniel fly_wolfcn: I did this: http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_manage_a_multi-guest_setup_with_vhashify.3F 1216262575 M * dniel fly_wolfcn: and then I did vserver ... build clone 1216262604 M * dniel but it didn't generate hardlinks 1216262611 M * fly_wolfcn wait a minit 1216262616 M * fly_wolfcn e 1216262693 M * fly_wolfcn oh,I am sorry,I almost a windows user,I can not help you 1216262752 M * dniel fly_wolfcn: windows user?? Linux-Vserver doesnt run in windows 1216262797 M * dniel fly_wolfcn: It's for linux 1216262822 M * fly_wolfcn I know ,so I can not help you 1216262907 M * fly_wolfcn my computer's os is linux and windows ,but I offen use the windows 1216262983 M * dniel fly_wolfcn: ok! no problem :) 1216263042 M * fly_wolfcn what do you do with VServer? game? 1216263247 Q * fly_wolfcn Quit: Ex-Chat 1216263957 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1216266129 Q * daniel_hozac_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216269866 J * z0d ~z0d@fw.wonderline.hu 1216269921 M * z0d hello 1216272124 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.79.37 1216272727 M * infotron hi z0d 1216273258 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.76.115 1216273672 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216273788 M * z0d hi infotron 1216273794 M * infotron sup 1216274014 M * z0d another work day has come 1216274557 M * infotron mine has finished, thankfully. :) 1216274816 M * z0d already that late? 1216275208 M * infotron yup. 12:14am here. 1216275378 M * z0d that's indeed late (-: 1216275555 M * infotron just a touch 1216276383 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B179.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1216276848 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@92.117.41.8 1216278567 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216278771 J * dna ~dna@172-202-dsl.kielnet.net 1216280594 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1216282860 M * matti Morning :) 1216282898 M * arachnist matti: moin 1216282906 M * matti Hi arachnist ;] 1216283044 M * arachnist :> 1216284001 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216284525 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1216285174 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1216285521 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216285523 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1216288676 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-145-230.lns4.mel6.internode.on.net 1216289109 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51 1216289437 J * Slydder ~slydder@194.59.17.53 1216289663 J * jacekowski ~jacekowsk@167.50.adsl.brightview.com 1216289675 M * jacekowski hi 1216289681 M * jacekowski vsysctl: chdir(): No such file or directory 1216289698 M * jacekowski and i have no idea how to know which directory it is 1216290413 Q * jacekowski Quit: leaving 1216290641 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@3.118-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1216290861 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216291051 M * cccp_ hrm 1216291065 M * cccp_ is there any documentation on how i should do network mounts inside guests? 1216291084 M * cccp_ from inside the guest i get a permission denied 1216291102 M * cccp_ if i mount it on the host, its only visiblein the vserver after i restart it 1216291143 M * cccp_ and when its working and the connection breaks down (fileserver rebooted) and i remount it, i'd have to restart the vserver guest again 1216291147 M * cccp_ but thats not really acceptable 1216291166 M * cccp_ then i mounted it in /mnt on the host and did a bind-mount of that directory inside the guest 1216291177 M * cccp_ but i dont really trust that, seems to behave strangely 1216291312 M * cccp_ should i try /etc/*/fstab? 1216291369 M * cehteh /etc/vserver/*/fstab 1216291390 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1216293885 Q * nou Server closed connection 1216293889 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667:: 1216293964 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1216294116 Q * mrfree 1216295362 Q * ard Server closed connection 1216295376 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net 1216295444 J * balbir ~balbir@12.157.249.2 1216295545 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1216295803 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection 1216295962 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1216295994 M * lilalinux re 1216296255 J * balbir ~balbir@12.157.249.2 1216296375 M * cccp_ hrm, so is there a way to remount that /etc/vserver/*/fstab mount without rebooting the vserver? 1216296588 M * cehteh yes .. but quite intrusive/manual way 1216296603 M * cccp_ hrm, annoying 1216296633 M * cehteh write a tool for it .. vserver $name remount ... 1216296642 M * cehteh i would like it :) 1216296673 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection 1216297513 Q * phedny__ Server closed connection 1216297543 J * phedny ~mark@2a02:348:35:5a26::1 1216297697 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1216297879 Q * Slydder Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [Iceape 1.1.10/2008061501] 1216297897 J * Slydder ~slydder@194.59.17.53 1216298517 Q * Slydder Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [Iceape 1.1.10/2008061501] 1216298555 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1216298627 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1216299211 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-571472d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1216300075 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1216302548 N * phedny Guest1343 1216302553 J * phedny ~mark@246-023-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl 1216302980 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.204.53 1216304783 J * opuk ~kupo@alla.beundrar.kupo.se 1216304976 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1216305385 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1216306482 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1216306786 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1216307185 M * fatgoose re 1216307188 N * fatgoose samtc 1216307389 M * samtc we can I get information on how to build a guest image ? 1216307417 M * samtc I would like to build custom image for fast deployment 1216307426 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems 1216307432 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.72.80 1216307765 M * samtc thanks, I'll use 'clone' method 1216308109 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216309469 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216309478 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216309608 Q * kir 1216309623 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216309624 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216309633 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216310123 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1216310232 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216310247 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216310249 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216310253 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216310418 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1216310606 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1216310627 M * Bertl morning folks! 1216310802 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl! 1216310850 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1216311032 M * infotron morning? woah, where'd that come from? 1216311074 M * Bertl that would have been me :) 1216311100 M * infotron oh cool. 1216312013 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1216312585 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1216312626 J * hijacker ~Lame@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1216312631 M * hijacker hi fellows 1216312651 M * hijacker just patched and build a new kernel and there seems to be a problem with vserver starting 1216312673 M * hijacker it's a 2.6.25.11-vs2.3.0.34.14 1216312706 M * hijacker 'VERIFYCAP' can be executed as root only 1216312707 M * hijacker capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup 1216312707 M * hijacker 1216312707 M * hijacker 1216312707 M * hijacker Failed to start vserver 'name' 1216312737 M * hijacker and i have in my .config file: 1216312751 M * hijacker grep VSERVER .config 1216312751 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK=y 1216312751 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_SINGLE is not set 1216312751 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_COWBL is not set 1216312751 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_VTIME is not set 1216312752 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE is not set 1216312752 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_PROC_SECURE=y 1216312754 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU=y 1216312754 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_IDLETIME=y 1216312756 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_IDLELIMIT is not set 1216312756 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_PRIVACY=y 1216312758 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS=8 1216312758 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_WARN=y 1216312760 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG=y 1216312760 M * hijacker # CONFIG_VSERVER_HISTORY is not set 1216312762 M * hijacker CONFIG_VSERVER=y 1216312762 M * hijacker sorry for flood 1216312851 M * sid3windr "capabilities" is not a vserver setting 1216312916 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1216312927 M * hijacker # CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES is not set 1216312941 M * hijacker sid3windr: is that the one above ? 1216312947 M * sid3windr not sure 1216312952 M * sid3windr don't think so though 1216312999 M * hijacker hmm 1216313023 M * hijacker i shall look for it then 1216313025 M * hijacker thank you sid3windr 1216313043 M * sid3windr heh I'm not much help but np :) 1216313229 M * hijacker well it is still some direction.. 1216313305 M * Bertl hijacker: first: (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1216313325 M * Bertl second: what util-vserver do you use? 1216313973 Q * pmenier_off Quit: Konversation terminated! 1216314210 J * ampex ~sterling@208.64.38.104 1216314315 J * miller7 ~adminbot@athedsl-171029.home.otenet.gr 1216314355 M * miller7 hello guys. Can someone help me with installing vserver host to a deb machine? 1216314385 M * Bertl get packages from backports 1216314408 M * miller7 what are backports? I am not a deb guy :/ I'm gentoo guy playing with deb now 1216314417 M * miller7 I installed 2.6.18-6-vserver deb 1216314420 M * Bertl well, ask debian folks :) 1216314422 M * miller7 with apt-get install 1216314451 M * miller7 is this version good? 1216314467 M * Bertl no, it's outdated, that's why I said, packages from backports 1216314472 M * miller7 ah ok 1216314489 M * miller7 ok, I will go to debian channel to ask what backports are 1216314492 M * miller7 tx bert 1216314498 M * Bertl np 1216314547 M * daniel_hozac hijacker: use recent utils. 1216314565 M * daniel_hozac hijacker: and make sure you have CONFIG_UID16 enabled in the kernel. 1216314597 M * Bertl hmm? UID16? 1216314609 M * sid3windr www.backports.org 1216314623 M * miller7 sid3windr: I am there, trying to figure out what this is 1216314632 M * sid3windr packages from debian unstable packaged for debian stable 1216314671 M * hijacker thanks Bertl 1216314681 M * hijacker from vserver-info: 1216314687 M * hijacker Versions: 1216314687 M * hijacker Kernel: 2.6.25.11-vs2.3.0.34.14nevir 1216314687 M * hijacker VS-API: 0x00020303 1216314687 M * hijacker util-vserver: 0.30.214; Sep 5 2007, 14:10:07 1216314702 M * hijacker what does config_uid16 do daniel_hozac? 1216314764 M * daniel_hozac dietlibc uses the legacy getuid/getgid syscalls rather than getuid32. 1216314769 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_UID16 turns them on. 1216314787 M * Bertl interesting ... will that be fixed soon? 1216314797 M * miller7 ok, I installed backports... now which version of linux-vserver should I install? 1216314807 M * Bertl the latest 1216314828 M * miller7 is this enough? apt-get install linux-image-vserver-amd64 1216314837 M * hijacker that's grant 1216314863 M * miller7 sorry, I meant "-t etch-backports" 1216314864 M * Bertl miller7: no idea, what packages does that pull in? 1216314884 M * miller7 Get:1 http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main linux-image-vserver-amd64 2.6.25+14~bpo40+1 [2352B] 1216314928 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i have no idea. 1216315034 M * Bertl maybe we should fix that ourself ... 1216315055 M * daniel_hozac i think i started at one point, but got distracted. 1216315066 M * daniel_hozac it's simple enough. 1216315087 M * Bertl but there seems to be a getuid32 syscall in dietlibc 1216315150 M * daniel_hozac so it's just a matter of making getuid do getuid32 and fall back to getuid if it fails with ENOSYS. 1216315206 M * Bertl maybe, not sure ... but it looks like 1216315338 M * miller7 is this util-vserver (0.30.214-5~bpo40+2) good? 1216315370 M * Bertl there should be a 0.30.215 1216315393 M * Bertl otherwise go for the 2.6.22 kernel and use 0.30.214 1216315412 M * miller7 sigh 1216315421 M * miller7 I think I've screwed it all up 1216315422 M * miller7 Unpacking linux-image-vserver-amd64 (from .../linux-image-vserver-amd64_2.6.25+14~bpo40+1_amd64.deb) ... 1216315422 M * miller7 Setting up linux-image-vserver-amd64 (2.6.25+14~bpo40+1) ... 1216315437 M * miller7 shouldn't this have installed in /boot the images? 1216315449 M * miller7 I still have vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 in /boot 1216315585 M * daniel_hozac that package should depend on the package that has the images. 1216315595 M * Bertl miller7: again, wrong channel ... check with debian folks 1216315601 M * miller7 ok Bert 1216315612 M * miller7 what do you guys here use? 1216315643 M * Bertl I am using mandriva, daniel_hozac uses fedora and hollow uses gentoo 1216315651 M * Bertl (feel free to correct me :) 1216315653 M * miller7 yeah, I know hollow :) 1216315656 M * daniel_hozac well, Fedora/CentOS. 1216315664 M * daniel_hozac but potatoe potato :) 1216315731 M * hijacker hey, just installed latest utils 1216315734 M * hijacker now i have: 1216315734 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.72.80 1216315736 M * hijacker Versions: 1216315736 M * hijacker Kernel: 2.6.25.11-vs2.3.0.34.14nevir 1216315736 M * hijacker VS-API: 0x00020303 1216315736 M * hijacker util-vserver: 0.30.215; Jul 17 2008, 20:21:09 1216315752 M * hijacker however i still get the same: 1216315753 M * hijacker 'VERIFYCAP' can be executed as root only 1216315753 M * hijacker capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup 1216315766 M * Bertl did you check for the CONFIG_UID16 as suggested? 1216315773 M * hijacker no 1216315777 M * hijacker will do now in a sec 1216315780 M * hijacker thank you Bertl 1216315789 M * arachnist hijacker: rebuild your util-vserver against your current kernel headers 1216316242 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216316390 M * hijacker arachnist: i think I have done so 1216316406 M * hijacker do i explicitly define the kernel source when configure ? 1216316411 M * daniel_hozac no. 1216316462 M * hijacker daniel_hozac: my CONIFG_UID16 was not available in menuconfig, it was not shown 1216316474 M * hijacker so i edited the .config file 1216316533 M * daniel_hozac if it's not in menuconfig, setting it in the .config file is not going to make a difference. 1216316561 M * Bertl try /UID16 in menuconfig 1216316582 M * Bertl check for the dependancies 1216316858 M * hijacker thanks 1216316862 M * hijacker i found this one 1216316865 M * hijacker it is in General 1216316868 M * hijacker then Configure standard kernel features (for small systems) 1216316872 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1216316892 M * hijacker and then then the CONFIG_UID16 is the very first option 1216316898 M * hijacker will do Bertl 1216316902 M * Bertl tx 1216316943 M * hijacker so I shall recompile the kernel one more time 1216316948 M * hijacker and will let you know the results 1216316960 M * Bertl or alternatively, you can try to fix up the dietlibc 1216316968 M * hijacker lool 1216316971 M * hijacker how do i do that? ;-) 1216316990 M * Bertl well, shouldn't be too hard, call the getuid32 first in the wrapper 1216317099 M * hijacker right 1216317119 M * hijacker i will have a look, thou i am not quite sure i will be able to get that one fixed 1216317167 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, it lookes like dietlibc is defining its own getuid32 (library/unistd) 1216317211 M * Bertl maybe use that instead? 1216317237 M * daniel_hozac i'd like to keep the dietlibc'isms to a minimum. 1216317256 M * daniel_hozac besides, this is something that dietlibc really should be doing. 1216317275 M * miller7 Bert, if I have 2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 and util-vserver 0.30.214 will it be a big problem for me? Debian guys didn't help me :/ 1216317279 M * Bertl well, in this ase, a 'fix' is not very likely, as it defines all the 32bit uid/gid handling as separate API 1216317282 M * Bertl *case 1216317312 M * Bertl miller7: well, you will have an ancient kernel with all known problems ... don't complain here 1216317341 M * miller7 any serious problems? security wise? 1216317351 M * Bertl miller7: you might want to talk to micah when he's around 1216317354 M * miller7 since if I can't install the latest version... what else can I do? 1216317355 M * miller7 ah 1216317357 M * miller7 thanks 1216317360 M * miller7 I will 1216317466 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: is there a way to do the RO bind mounts in the util-vserver config? 1216317475 M * Bertl (and if not, is it planned?) 1216317693 M * micah miller7: what do you mean Debian guys didn't help you? 1216317700 J * dErF ~dErF@ool-18b8ab9e.dyn.optonline.net 1216317715 M * miller7 I got a guy to help but he wasn't familiar with how to install latest 1216317726 P * dErF 1216317748 M * miller7 I have just managed to install 2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 and make it work (rebooted etc) 1216317774 M * miller7 but I can't see how to install backport versions or whatever it's called :/ 1216317814 M * micah miller7: did you follow the instructions on the backports site? 1216317818 M * miller7 yes 1216317834 M * micah and? 1216317838 M * miller7 It says it installs the latest version but I can't see any changes in /boot files 1216317844 M * miller7 so I'm doing something wrong 1216317855 M * micah what are you trying to solve exactly? 1216317874 M * miller7 trying to install latest vserver version Bert told me to install 1216317880 M * miller7 kernel + utils 1216317934 M * micah miller7: what did you do? 1216317952 M * miller7 aptitude -t etch-backports 1216317959 M * miller7 and selected vserver-image 1216317965 M * miller7 and installed it (I think) 1216317977 M * miller7 said it installed some strange version bkp-40^ something 1216317992 M * micah what package exactly 1216317993 M * miller7 but I don't think it did 1216318009 M * miller7 let me look 1216318057 M * miller7 I have this in aptitude 1216318058 M * miller7 i A linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 2.6.18+6et 2.6.25+14~ 1216318066 M * miller7 how do I install the right one? (backport) 1216318097 M * miller7 I'm a very noob in Deb 1216318127 M * micah miller7: have a read of these instructions: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions 1216318134 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hmm? just bind,ro as usual. 1216318149 M * miller7 micah: I am already there and doing these 1216318149 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1216318159 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1216318172 M * miller7 should I do the /etc/apt/preferences thing? 1216318188 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: and that does the mount and the remount? 1216318192 M * micah miller7: no, that is not necessary 1216318207 M * miller7 I've done the rest before, alone before asking #debian channel 1216318217 M * miller7 what "package" should I try to install? 1216318220 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: what? 1216318224 M * miller7 should I include the version somehow? 1216318231 M * micah miller7: can you tell me exactly what you typed for #3? 1216318237 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: mainline decided that bind,ro is not acceptable 1216318250 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you have to do a mount, and then a remount, adding the ro 1216318256 M * miller7 micah: apt-get -t etch-backports install linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 1216318273 M * miller7 wait 1216318275 M * miller7 doing it again 1216318282 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: ugh. 1216318300 M * daniel_hozac that is just... lame. 1216318319 M * Bertl well, they had to change something, oterwise it would not have been a new invention :) 1216318320 M * miller7 micah: installed it in /boot now 1216318336 M * miller7 let me boot with this kernel and see... it's the same I did before (I think...) 1216318338 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nah, seriously, it has advantages and disadvantages 1216318354 M * daniel_hozac mostly disadvantages... 1216318362 M * Bertl one advantage is that you can change a submount back to rw 1216318382 M * daniel_hozac that kind of defeats the point. 1216318421 M * daniel_hozac (but i guess we'll just block that in Linux-VServer, as usual) 1216318444 M * Bertl well, we probably can propagate the flags as usual, but I'd like to adopt the mainline bind mount semantics ASAP, because otherwise we have to explain to folks _why_ we do it different 1216318501 M * miller7 micah: Linux Debian-40-etch-64-minimal 2.6.25-2-vserver-amd64 now :-)) 1216318524 M * Bertl micah: isn't there a 2.6.22.19 based kernel too? 1216318579 M * micah Bertl: yes there is 1216318581 M * daniel_hozac not anymore, i don't think. 1216318588 M * micah daniel_hozac: I think its still in lenny 1216318589 M * miller7 micah: util-vserver is 0.30.214-5 1216318592 M * miller7 is this ok? 1216318601 M * Bertl well, not for 2.6.25 IIRC 1216318603 M * micah miller7: you can upgrade that one to the one in backports 1216318604 M * daniel_hozac micah: no, lenny is 2.62.5. 1216318621 M * miller7 micah: I see this as latest version in aptitude 1216318627 M * micah daniel_hozac: yes, but 2.6.22 hasn't been removed from lenny yet 1216318653 M * miller7 apt-get -t etch-backports install util-vserver 1216318655 M * micah miller7: backports has a newer version 1216318659 M * miller7 util-vserver is already the newest version. 1216318676 M * micah miller7: try apt-get install util-vserver=0.30.214-5~bpo40+2 1216318678 M * miller7 micah: this is what happened before with kernel too... same thing. 1216318679 M * miller7 ah ok 1216318681 M * miller7 let me try 1216318690 M * miller7 same 1216318694 M * miller7 already latest version it says 1216318708 M * micah miller7: and apt-cache policy util-vserver shows you with only 0.30.214-5? 1216318720 M * micah hmm, actually I see a problem 1216318733 M * miller7 Debian-40-etch-64-minimal:~# apt-cache policy util-vserver 1216318733 M * miller7 util-vserver: 1216318733 M * miller7 Installed: 0.30.214-5~bpo40+2 1216318736 M * micah 0.30.215-2~bpo40+1 was not built for amd64 at backports.org, thats frustrating 1216318863 M * micah in 41 1216318863 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer 1216318867 M * micah sorry, misttype 1216318877 M * miller7 ? 1216318913 M * miller7 should I type something else? I am not sure what I should do 1216318971 J * hijacker ~Lame@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1216319002 M * hijacker it's now fixed. cheers fellows 1216319110 M * micah miller7: sorry, there is no amd64 build of that package yet 1216319119 M * miller7 so what should I do? 1216319125 M * micah i'm working on resolving that 1216319128 M * miller7 ah ok 1216319131 M * miller7 thank you 1216319135 M * micah miller7: is the version you have non-functional? 1216319140 M * miller7 I don't know 1216319173 M * miller7 looks ok to me (??????) 1216319173 M * miller7 Debian-40-etch-64-minimal:~# vserver vserver1 start 1216319174 M * miller7 Starting system log daemon: syslogd. 1216319174 M * miller7 Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled. 1216319174 M * miller7 Starting periodic command scheduler: crond. 1216319175 M * miller7 Debian-40-etch-64-minimal:~# vserver vserver1 enter 1216319175 M * miller7 vserver1:/# 1216319192 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 1216319192 M * miller7 I installed a test one called vserver1 before the kernel upgrade we did just now 1216319196 M * miller7 sorry Bert 1216319202 M * miller7 sorry guys 1216319307 M * miller7 I don't know... looks to be working? Bert, you think I might have problems? 1216319330 M * Bertl check with daniel_hozac, but IIRC, 0.30.214 doesn't work correctly with 2.6.25.x 1216319341 M * miller7 ok, will IM him 1216319401 M * Bertl don't forget, this is an experimental kernel aptch (for 2.6.25) not a stable release 1216319412 M * Bertl the last stable is for 2.6.22.19 1216319437 M * miller7 micah: is there a way for me to install 2.6.22.19? 1216319623 M * micah miller7: I know Bertl disagrees with me, but I think you should use the kernel that comes with etch, until you have a problem with it and then complain to me and I'll help you get a newer version installed :) 1216319654 M * micah the 2.6.22 kernel is in lenny, which you aren't currently running. you could attempt to install it through pinning, but I have not done that on an etch system 1216319670 M * miller7 ok 1216319677 M * miller7 I think I should downgrade to etch kernel 1216319686 M * miller7 and if bad things happen see it then 1216319698 M * micah and am not sure I would recommend it as there are other issues that should be taken into consideration (such as security updates, and support in the system) 1216319744 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Feature_Matrix 1216319749 M * micah i know it can be done, I just have not done it so I cannot recommend it without trying that combination myself 1216319778 M * micah miller7: don't complain to people here if you have problems though as you will be running an older version 1216319789 M * miller7 I don't plan on complaining to anyone 1216319802 M * miller7 on the contrary, I am very thankful no matter what 1216319820 M * micah Bertl: thats a great chart btw. 1216319840 M * micah miller7: hehe, well I dont mean complain, but if you have problems 1216319853 M * miller7 2.6.18-6 is which version of the graph? 1216319872 M * Bertl micah: a 2.0.x kernel means, you have no cap masking and no cow link breaking 1216319893 M * micah miller7: 2.0 1216319914 M * Bertl miller7: for you that probably means that bind9 and unification with newer guests doesn't work as expected 1216319926 M * miller7 I don't use unification 1216319927 M * Bertl miller7: also, no ipv6 support 1216319934 M * miller7 I won't use bind or ipv6 1216319940 M * micah actually bind9 works, as long as your guests aren't lenny 1216319944 M * Bertl good, then you are probably fine 1216319949 M * miller7 I will use gentoo guests 1216319954 M * miller7 thanks Bert 1216319966 M * miller7 what is isolated loopback? This sounds cool 1216319985 M * Bertl bidirectional 127.0.0.1 mapping 1216319988 M * micah thats a nice feature :) 1216319991 M * miller7 yeah :) 1216319993 M * miller7 I think so too 1216320001 M * Bertl unfortunately not for debian folks :) 1216320006 M * miller7 but will have it in the future :) 1216320009 M * miller7 LOL bert 1216320035 M * micah not for debian etch at least 1216320057 M * miller7 well one can always compile his own kernel 1216320063 M * miller7 and util-vserver 1216320071 M * micah yes, that will work 1216320105 M * miller7 anyway guys thanks a million. I will go with older one and will see. Thanks A LOT 1216321004 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216322061 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180203198.adsl.alicedsl.de 1216322467 J * mib_hmdc6mv5 52524f05@67.207.141.120 1216322931 P * mib_hmdc6mv5 1216325200 Q * loddafni1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216325726 P * Rankin 1216325985 Q * hijacker Quit: Changing server... 1216326041 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1216326983 Q * miller7 1216327293 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1216327530 J * rgl ~rgl@lx2-84-90-11-153.netvisao.pt 1216327536 M * rgl hi 1216327553 M * Bertl hey! 1216327564 M * rgl my raid1 array of two disks is again with problems... :( 1216327575 M * rgl this time is so bizarre! 1216327595 M * rgl in syslog I got this message: mdadm: DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md/3 1216327616 M * rgl BUT my vserver VMs are running from it!!! 1216327647 M * Bertl means tht the device was physically detached 1216327664 M * Bertl (or well, te electronics thought so :) 1216327707 M * Bertl on a raid 1, that won't hurt the system .. only degrade it a little 1216327731 M * rgl md3 has an LVM2 PV, which has some LVM LV for each vserver guest (I have three guests) 1216327740 M * rgl but degrade what? 1216327750 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1216327753 M * rgl there is nothing it hte host! 1216327770 M * rgl cat /proc/mdstat shows this: 1216327771 M * rgl md3 : inactive sda7[0](S) 1216327771 M * rgl 468551620 blocks super 1.0 1216327775 M * rgl and thats it. 1216327796 M * rgl when I run pvdisplay the PV is not even showed :/ 1216327820 M * rgl but I can do vserver enter myguest without problems, howcome? :/ 1216327841 M * rgl its seems the device disapeared ONLY from host. 1216327853 M * rgl can that be possible? 1216327865 M * FaUl don't think so 1216327880 M * rgl so how is sthis still working? 1216327898 M * rgl I mean, I don't even known how in the heck is this still up :/ 1216327906 M * Bertl rgl: you see, a raid device with one disk? 1216327934 M * rgl its "inactive" 1216327973 M * Bertl so? 1216328002 M * rgl it shouldnt say degraded? 1216328016 M * Bertl well, depends on how the raid is setup 1216328030 M * rgl if it was working, the lvm tools could display the PV within, no? 1216328047 M * Bertl usually I'd say yes, but for example, if the device is dm based ... 1216328056 M * rgl its dm based 1216328071 M * Bertl well, then the mapping simply provides two I/O patches 1216328086 M * Bertl and it probably switched to one path when the other failed 1216328088 M * rgl you've lost me! 1216328096 M * rgl ah, two I/O paths. 1216328110 M * Bertl yep, typo 1216328156 M * rgl but when that happens, the lvm tools should display the PV? 1216328217 M * Bertl yes, I'd say so .. unless the 'device' section is restricted to the md device 1216328238 M * rgl what do you mean by that? 1216328257 M * Bertl first check with 'dmsetup table' 1216328307 M * rgl I never used dmsetup :( 1216328483 M * rgl http://dpaste.com/65662/ 1216328492 M * rgl what should I do with its output? 1216328532 M * rgl the "raide-*" are the LVM LV 1216328549 M * Bertl and I presume the guests are called piranha, calipo and ocelot? 1216328575 M * rgl that should happear when use the command "lvdisplay", but they don't. 1216328577 M * rgl yes 1216328595 M * Bertl anyway, you can see that the mappings are still there, but labeled 'linear' 1216328620 M * Bertl i.e. the dm-raid degraded to a linear mapping 1216328635 M * rgl what does it mean? 1216328652 M * rgl raid1 isn't always linear? 1216328659 M * Bertl it means, one disk failed (somehow) and the dm framework adjusted 1216328685 M * Bertl note that dm-raid is different from md-raid 1216328723 M * rgl I'm confused, sorry :( 1216328753 M * Bertl http://lwn.net/Articles/169140/ 1216328753 M * rgl to build the raid I've used mdadm, I don't known where that "dm-raid" come into picture 1216328755 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1216328794 M * Bertl http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/SoftRaid 1216328830 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1216328849 M * rgl thx! I'll surely read all of that. 1216329114 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-243-126.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1216329199 M * rgl jeebus, I can't understand the relation :/ 1216329219 Q * samtc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216329225 M * rgl the path to disk is: MD -> DM -> disc(s) 1216329230 M * rgl ? 1216329249 M * Bertl in cas of the dm-raid, yes 1216329253 M * Bertl *case 1216329261 M * rgl but which is my case? :| 1216329274 M * Bertl the md raid (which is an alternative) does not use the device mapper 1216329294 M * Bertl of course, you can combine dm and md to your likings 1216329305 M * Bertl to me, it looks like you use dm-raid 1216329329 M * rgl how can it be? 1216329341 M * rgl I mean, I've used a tool called MDadm :/ 1216329375 Q * rgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1216329405 J * rgl ~rgl@lx2-84-90-11-153.netvisao.pt 1216329418 M * rgl oh, irc died on me. 1216329422 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216329426 M * rgl did you answer Bertl ? 1216329641 M * Bertl maybe check with the raid/md/dm mailing list and/or your distribution 1216329655 M * FaUl aii 1216329668 M * FaUl never do netstat -rn on a mashine with bgp-fulltable *wait* 1216329772 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.77.28 1216329917 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1216330045 M * rgl oh ok. thx Bertl ! 1216331259 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216332410 M * rgl Bertl, oh, I got the MD vs DM now! 1216332452 M * rgl Bertl, MD is used by the software raid (mdadm) and the DM is used by LVM! 1216332459 M * Bertl excellent! .. off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1216332464 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1216332874 Q * Guest1343 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216333108 N * phedny Guest1415 1216333113 J * phedny ~mark@2a02:348:35:5a26::1 1216333590 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1216333726 J * balbir ~balbir@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1216334002 Q * fatgoose Remote host closed the connection 1216334283 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1216334804 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216336441 J * balbir ~balbir@12.157.249.2 1216336727 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1216337037 Q * ruskie Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating... 1216338386 Q * rgl Quit: Saindo