1215563166 J * doener ~doener@i577B9695.versanet.de 1215563272 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215564892 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1215564898 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1215572368 Q * GuilhermeCunha Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215573279 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1215573364 J * GuilhermeCunha ~Guilherme@189.30.49.33 1215576980 Q * tam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215578297 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1215579695 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1215580889 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1215581373 Q * tam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215581900 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1215583821 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.72.89 1215585208 J * z0d ~z0d@fw.wonderline.hu 1215585232 M * z0d hello 1215585388 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215585897 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215586466 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215587216 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-116.ethz.ch 1215587295 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215587781 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215587871 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1215588882 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215589049 M * fanto666 should lsof in context 1 work? 1215589055 M * fanto666 apache2 11530 httpd 0 unknown /proc/11530/fd/0 (readlink: Permission denied) 1215589076 M * fanto666 when I tried "chcontext --ctx 1 lsof -p 11530" 1215589106 M * fanto666 and many of "(stat: Permission denied)" errors 1215589663 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1215589699 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1215590465 J * joern42 ~jr@dyndsl-080-228-186-221.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215590655 P * joern42 1215592229 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215592267 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215592267 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215592273 J * frootat ~joern@dyndsl-091-096-062-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215592376 J * _kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com 1215592382 M * _kwowt moin =) 1215592422 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1215592519 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215592829 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215593112 J * dna ~dna@12-207-dsl.kielnet.net 1215593625 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.69.42.51 1215593866 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.72.89 1215594170 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215594171 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215594182 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215594427 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving. 1215594455 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1215594463 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1215594739 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215594772 Q * arekm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215594843 Q * nou Server closed connection 1215594844 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667:: 1215595528 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215595851 Q * daniel_hozac Server closed connection 1215595865 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1215597740 M * _kwowt hm 1215597752 M * _kwowt is there a really simple way to move guest vps to another partition? 1215597765 M * _kwowt or do i just copy the home directory somewhere else and thats it 1215597773 M * _kwowt i think not:P 1215598080 M * ktwilight symlink 'em 1215598950 Q * frootat Quit: :(){ :|:&};: 1215599340 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1215600101 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-145-230.lns4.mel6.internode.on.net 1215604036 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215605671 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving. 1215606093 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.202.253 1215606341 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1215606441 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1215606619 J * docelic_ ~docelic@78.134.196.119 1215606872 J * dna ~dna@12-207-dsl.kielnet.net 1215606985 M * daniel_hozac fanto666: did you enable guest privacy? 1215607031 Q * docelic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215607271 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215607410 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.64.9 1215607890 Q * ard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215609570 M * fanto666 daniel_hozac: is that a kernel option? 1215609579 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215609595 M * fanto666 yes it seems so 1215609639 M * fanto666 so I have to recompile kernel to see open files etc from outside vserver? 1215609640 M * fanto666 ok 1215609645 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1215610070 J * issamneo123 ~issam@196.203.207.50 1215610079 M * issamneo123 hi all; 1215610084 M * issamneo123 i'm back 1215610098 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net 1215610111 M * issamneo123 as i think there is no problem if i install a dhcp server on a guest 1215610113 M * issamneo123 ? 1215610140 M * daniel_hozac depends on the DHCP server. 1215610147 M * daniel_hozac ISC dhcpd requires CAP_NET_RAW. 1215610219 M * issamneo123 i so: 1215610239 M * issamneo123 sudo apt-get install dhcpd3-server 1215610275 M * issamneo123 how do i know if it's ISC dhcp or not? 1215610277 A * ard recompiled to put it in forwarded dhcp requests only 1215610283 M * ard debian == isc dhcp 1215610316 M * issamneo123 at ard i recompile what? 1215610323 M * ard dhcp requests are unicasted from my router to my vserver 1215610347 M * ard issamneo123 : if you want to do plain dhcp, no fuzz, just do what daniel_hozac says :-) 1215610359 M * daniel_hozac you could also use dnsmasq. 1215610374 M * daniel_hozac it uses a regular UDP socket, so it's supposed to work inside a guest. 1215610408 A * ard uses the forwarding also for other networks like wifi :-) 1215610490 M * ard and I have a something against dnsmasq. It is always installed and active in each new release of openwrt. 1215610542 M * daniel_hozac you can always build your own image. 1215610616 M * ard that's true... 1215610700 M * ard or come up with a generic fix 1215611273 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-057.ethz.ch 1215611950 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-4-50-84.bhm.bellsouth.net 1215613623 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1215614194 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1215614745 J * raphinou ~rb@88.197.235.173 1215614806 M * z0d bye 1215614809 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1215614853 M * raphinou hi, I'm a new user of vserver 1215614871 M * raphinou and I'm not sure about the network config 1215614949 M * raphinou the physical server has only one interface (eth0) , with its public IP. All vservers will have a private IP. Do I still specify the interface to be eth0 for vservers when I build them? 1215615138 M * issamneo123 raphinou 1215615148 M * issamneo123 when you create a vserver use : 1215615161 M * tam raphinou: I do something similar... and I bind my guests to dummy0 and use iptables to get them internet access via NAT 1215615341 M * PowerKe You can change the interface or ip easily after building the guest if you change your mind. Just stop the guest, change the config file and start it again. 1215615438 M * PowerKe The config files for the first interface are in /etc/vservers//interface/0/ 1215615517 M * raphinou PowerKe it doesn't cause problems to have a 10.X.X.X address on the same interface as a public IP? 1215615599 M * raphinou tam: how do you bring up your dummy0 interface? ifconfig -a doesn't show it 1215615609 M * PowerKe raphinou: no, it doesn't cause problems 1215615631 M * raphinou ok, thanks PowerKe ! 1215615651 M * raphinou I just found this: http://linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests 1215615662 M * raphinou will help me further :-) 1215615736 M * issamneo123 when you build your guest : --interface eth0:192.168.1.11/24 1215615779 M * PowerKe to get the dummy up I think you can just type ifconfig dummy0 x.x.x.x up 1215615796 M * issamneo123 or [as powerke say]then when the guest is build /etc/vservers//interface/0/ip 1215615829 M * raphinou ifconfig dummy0 x.x.x.x up is sufficient to bring it up indeed 1215615933 M * PowerKe If you use eth0, don't take it down while the guests are running, but I usually don't do that anyway since i'm usually connected through that interface :) 1215616147 M * PowerKe Keep in mind that you need ip forwarding enabled and possibly NAT if you want to communicate with external hosts. 1215616268 M * raphinou PowerKe: I'm also in ssh so I shouldn't take the interface down :-) 1215616269 M * PowerKe And click through on the sshd link at the bottom of the networking page if you want to run sshd in a guest. I think it's one of the most popular questions in the channel. 1215616320 M * raphinou And I have configure nat. and will look the ssh link. Thanks for the advices and answering questions even before they are asked :-D 1215616376 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1215616417 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1215616730 M * yarihm daniel_hozac, this might actually sound like a stupid question, but what distribution would you recommend as vserver-host? I'd like to have a distribution that provides binary kernels for linux-vserver including security support and preferably long-time security support. At the moment we use Debian which is fine. It seems though as if they were increasing the speed of releases which means shorter security-support. The alternative I have i 1215616730 M * yarihm n mind is centos, what do you think about it? 1215616876 M * PowerKe yarihm: Why would you prefer a binary kernel? I think it would be better to compile it yourself to match your hardware and the functionality you like? 1215617056 M * yarihm PowerKe, well, at first it sound the like, but when you maintain lots of machines you soon start to see what hassle this is. Furthermore it is up to you to make sure you are up to date with security and stability fixes. If you don't want to run the newest kernel all the time but something more stable (in terms of API, not reliability), you are bound to the sources maintained by your distributor and then I kind of feel that I can use their 1215617056 M * yarihm images just as well. Most precompiled kernels have virtually all functionality as module, I doubt that you loose much performance using such a kernel 1215617246 J * cryptronic1 ~oli@p54A392C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1215617265 M * daniel_hozac yarihm: i use CentOS on all my boxes... 1215617271 M * daniel_hozac so i'm rather biased in the matter. 1215617622 Q * cryptronic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215617715 M * yarihm daniel_hozac, that is no problem for me, if you use centos on all your boxes I have a kind of strong indication that the repos will be taken care of 1215617836 M * daniel_hozac PowerKe: you don't need forwarding for Linux-VServer. 1215618126 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1215618391 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215618591 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1215618635 M * PowerKe daniel_hozac: if the host has 10.0.0.1, and the guest has 192.168.1.1, the guest can communicate with another host 10.0.0.2 without ip forward? (assuming the 10.0.0.2 host has a routing entry to 192.168.1.1 via 10.0.0.1) ? 1215618645 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215618659 M * daniel_hozac as long as you have routing/NAT setup properly. 1215618674 M * daniel_hozac guests are just like processes on the host. 1215618679 M * daniel_hozac packets traverse INPUT/OUTPUT. 1215618830 M * PowerKe I haven't done much testing with multiple subnets on a single interface, outside of vserver 1215618849 M * PowerKe Usually I use 2 interfaces with different subnets 1215618869 M * daniel_hozac Linux doesn't care about interfaces. 1215618872 M * PowerKe So I just assumed I needed to turn on ip_forwarding in this case as well 1215619327 P * issamneo123 1215619358 M * infotron infowolfe: long time no see. remember me from Juniper support? :) 1215619487 M * infowolfe infotron, not entirely sure :-p 1215619533 M * infotron you had something J-series related with vpn's. i'm new to the team there :) 1215619606 M * infotron after I get my hardware in order, I'll be rolling a new gentoo box etc with your suggestions. I'm curious to see how it plays out 1215619670 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1215619687 M * infowolfe ah, gotcha 1215619694 M * infowolfe you're the ssg-5 guy 1215619705 M * infowolfe btw, we did end up buying 2 of them ;) 1215619742 M * infotron cool beans. 1215619755 M * infotron I have some errands to run, so ttyl. 1215619759 A * infowolfe just disabled a bunch of user accounts on a hosted vps 1215619771 M * infowolfe someone was torrenting copyrighted data on one of my work machines :| 1215619779 M * infowolfe take it easy 1215623012 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.64.15 1215623074 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1215623193 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1215623406 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215623445 J * dna ~dna@12-207-dsl.kielnet.net 1215624166 Q * fatgoose Remote host closed the connection 1215624349 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1215625361 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215626667 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1215626689 M * Bertl evening folks! 1215626719 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1215627070 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-78-94-103-112.hsi.ish.de 1215627425 M * raphinou hi Bertl 1215627547 M * Bertl hey 1215627643 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1215627712 M * raphinou I have to go Bertl . Talk to you next time! Have a good evening. 1215627718 Q * raphinou Quit: Leaving 1215628295 J * sebastiandeutsch ~sebastian@i538773C5.versanet.de 1215628327 M * sebastiandeutsch hi, by default vservers go into /var/lib/vservers is it possible to put them in /home/vservers? 1215628349 J * blizz ~stephan@e181068191.adsl.alicedsl.de 1215628366 M * Bertl sebastiandeutsch: nah, by default, "guests" go into /vservers 1215628386 M * Bertl but on debian everything is a little different, so there it is /var/lib/vservers 1215628415 M * sebastiandeutsch okay so i can put them wherever i want (etc)? 1215628426 M * Bertl to answer your question, yes, you can put them wherever you like, either on a global config/defaults database, or on a per guest base 1215628442 M * Bertl s/database/data base/ 1215628480 M * Bertl as you are using debian (or ubuntu), you might also consider updating the tools (and probably kernel) 1215628480 M * sebastiandeutsch thank you 1215628518 M * sebastiandeutsch it's gonna be a fresh debian 1215628543 M * Bertl so please consider updating to util-vserver from backports 1215628576 M * Bertl something like 0.30.215 should be fine 1215628603 M * sebastiandeutsch any more web ressources I should read beside the getting started and the wiki? 1215628626 M * Bertl the wiki is a good start, if you have specific questions/problems, see topic :) 1215628650 M * Bertl and feel free to hang around too ... 1215628657 M * sebastiandeutsch thx 1215628960 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1215629090 J * docelic__ ~docelic@78.134.199.43 1215629496 Q * docelic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215631519 Q * sebastiandeutsch Quit: sebastiandeutsch 1215631681 M * ktwilight i vaguely remember this, but xattr doesn't work in guest for xfs? 1215631699 M * ktwilight or was it, it works but not secure. 1215631754 M * Bertl it works fine, but with recent kernels there is no space left for xattr flags 1215631774 M * Bertl i.e. all (16) flags are used up 1215631836 M * Bertl or are you actually referring to 'extended attributes'? 1215631863 M * ktwilight yes am refering to extended attributes 1215631926 M * ktwilight k, lack of knowledge here. but i guess since all flags are used up, they'd just bump the number to 32? 1215631951 M * Bertl not possible without major change in the on disk layout 1215631987 M * ktwilight wow, great fun :) 1215632012 M * ktwilight what are the probable solutions? 1215632022 M * Bertl OTOH, EA should work inside a guest 1215632040 M * Bertl I'm currently investigating the options there 1215632062 M * ktwilight ah ok 1215632071 M * ktwilight this is suckage :( 1215632076 M * ktwilight Bertl, 加油! 1215632101 M * ktwilight literally mean, "add oil", it's an encouragement phrase as "you can do it!" 1215632105 M * ktwilight chinese :) 1215632158 M * Bertl my client doesn't render chinese very well (in the terminal :) 1215632185 M * daniel_hozac gnome-terminal works well... :) 1215632207 M * Bertl only with UTF8, and that disabled here ... 1215632218 A * Bertl is old fashioned in this regard 1215632338 M * ktwilight hm, i can't find an image with those two words :/ 1215632382 M * Bertl paint them (you're good at calligraphy?) 1215632421 J * docelic_ ~docelic@78.134.200.162 1215632448 M * ktwilight ah found :) not quite though 1215632449 M * ktwilight http://pic.66wz.com/0/00/31/19/311933_432229.jpg 1215632476 M * ktwilight so that pic has 5 words, read from top to bottom. the 3rd and 4th words are what i typed :) 1215632511 M * Bertl aha :) 1215632540 M * ktwilight common chinese phrase when cheering someone :) 1215632555 M * Bertl okay, will try to remember it 1215632557 M * ktwilight phonetically, it's "jia you" 1215632567 M * ktwilight though there are accents (tones), but i dunno how to write it out :/ 1215632831 Q * docelic__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215632873 J * docelic__ ~docelic@78.134.207.220 1215633281 Q * docelic_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215633736 J * sebastiandeutsch ~sebastian@i577BBF3C.versanet.de 1215633945 P * sebastiandeutsch 1215634694 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1215634802 Q * docelic__ Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1215635057 Q * blizz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215635938 M * cehteh http://programm.froscon.org/2008/ 1215635952 M * cehteh openvz :P 1215636107 M * Bertl so? 1215636195 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1215636493 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215637457 M * cehteh Bertl: where is yor vserver talk there :P 1215637510 M * cehteh well the program looks very good 1215637527 M * Bertl nobody invited me .. nobody is paying for transport and/or accomodation :) 1215637580 A * cehteh considers to take a week off and go by bike, do some camping .. make a small vacation 1215638117 Q * fatgoose Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215638943 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1215639271 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1215639358 Q * fatgoose 1215640194 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-119-17.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1215640661 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1215640915 Q * the_fafa Quit: the_fafa 1215641016 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1215641021 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1215641315 Q * ard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215641354 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1215641386 J * the_fafa ~fafa@p5496E6FE.dip.t-dialin.net 1215641747 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215641773 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@194.120-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1215642039 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215642171 Q * cryptronic1 Quit: Leaving. 1215643371 Q * loddafnir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215643853 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1215644648 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.73.118 1215645034 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds