1215389422 M * dniel daniel_hozac: what is the function of setattr? 1215389484 M * daniel_hozac it sets attributes. 1215389577 M * dniel where does it set?? 1215389642 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1215389656 M * dniel I'm lost 1215389666 M * dniel :( 1215389693 M * Bertl_oO file system attributes 1215389703 M * dniel ahh! 1215389751 M * dniel I didn't understand this part: setattr --iunlink 1215389796 M * Bertl_oO sets the so called 'immutable-but-unlink-able' flag 1215389841 M * daniel_hozac which also double as the COW bits. 1215389851 M * dniel Bertl_oO: ahh! 1215390363 J * doener ~doener@i577BBEEB.versanet.de 1215390466 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215391092 J * Diluvium nobody@laptop2.daemoncore.org 1215391096 M * Diluvium hey all 1215391103 M * Bertl_oO hey 1215391109 M * Diluvium how ya doing Bertl_oO 1215391118 M * Diluvium any ideas howto allow a user to mount things in his jail 1215391121 M * Diluvium err vserver* :) 1215391133 M * Bertl_oO SECURE_MOUNT? 1215391144 M * Diluvium Bertl_oO, mount -t smbfs 1215391150 M * Diluvium hmm 1215391164 M * Bertl_oO http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags 1215391191 M * Bertl_oO for smbfs you probably need BINARY_MOUNT too 1215391270 M * Diluvium where do I actually add these flags 1215391280 M * Diluvium ah found it :) 1215391381 M * daniel_hozac smbfs doesn't work inside a guest. 1215391394 M * daniel_hozac it requires spawning kernel threads, which is prohibited. 1215391405 M * Bertl_oO wasn't that cifs? 1215391423 M * daniel_hozac i thought smbfs was just an alias for cifs these days? 1215391442 M * Bertl_oO well, don't know, but IIRC, smbfs (the real one) just worked 1215391480 M * daniel_hozac hmm, looks like smbfs is still around. 1215391496 N * Guest3939 Genghis 1215391534 N * Genghis Guest3945 1215391541 M * Diluvium daniel_hozac, how do I enable kernel threads 1215391692 M * daniel_hozac they're on that same page. 1215391744 M * Diluvium daniel_hozac, hmm is it dangerous to enable them 1215391747 M * daniel_hozac but you should know that allowing a guest to spawn kernel threads is risky business... you might end up with a guest that you cannot stop. 1215391756 M * Diluvium shit. 1215391762 M * Diluvium I need some form of network mounted share 1215391766 M * Diluvium on each of my vservers 1215391770 M * Diluvium several hundred of them 1215391770 M * daniel_hozac why? 1215391771 M * Diluvium >.< 1215391781 M * Bertl_oO wel, same almost goes for all _inside_ the guest mounted network stuff 1215391784 M * Bertl_oO *well 1215391793 M * Diluvium i wonder if I can mount it on the host 1215391800 M * Diluvium and somehow share the directory down into the vserver 1215391808 M * Bertl_oO sure 1215391809 M * daniel_hozac bind mounts work well... 1215391821 M * Bertl_oO you even can mount it on guest startup 1215391828 M * Bertl_oO (directly into the guest space= 1215391893 M * Diluvium hmm 1215391898 M * Diluvium that seems alot better idea 1215391906 M * Diluvium then they cant even see the username@ for the backup server 1215392154 M * dniel uouu!!! Thank a lot daniel_hozac and Bertl_oO! This thing you taught me is very interesting 1215392183 M * Bertl_oO you're welcome! 1215392312 M * daniel_hozac Diluvium: you want to manage the backups from inside the guest? 1215392337 M * Diluvium daniel_hozac, well my idea is 1215392345 M * Diluvium im gonna drop every user a 2gb remote filesystem 1215392349 M * Diluvium /backup or something 1215392367 M * Diluvium just for important stuff 1215392394 M * Diluvium daniel_hozac, btw just to rest your mind assured, im helping a friend out with this im not the admin :P (just incase my incompetance scares you) 1215392397 M * dniel Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: should CoW work better than unionfs? 1215392452 M * daniel_hozac dniel: much easier to setup, at least... 1215392460 M * Bertl_oO dniel: well, less overhead, no additional layer, I'd say yes :) but if you want to verify, please go ahead and test it ... just don't forget to keep us updated :) 1215392707 M * dniel yes! If I test it, I will comment it 1215392789 M * dniel off to dinner! See you! 1215392845 N * dniel dniel_dinner 1215395155 N * Guest3945 Genghis 1215395193 N * Genghis Guest3954 1215396265 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1215396269 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1215396270 Q * dniel_dinner Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215397060 J * dniel_dinner ~ary@host206.190-136-238.telecom.net.ar 1215397128 M * Diluvium cya Bertl_zZ 1215397634 Q * FloodServ charon.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1215397635 N * Guest3954 Genghis 1215398309 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1215398318 N * Genghis Guest1 1215398454 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23CF6E.dip.t-dialin.net 1215398886 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215400288 J * ary ~ary@host22.190-136-233.telecom.net.ar 1215400681 Q * dniel_dinner Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215401980 N * Guest1 Genghis 1215402017 N * Genghis Guest11 1215402207 Q * Diluvium Quit: Leaving 1215404610 Q * ary Quit: Leaving 1215405640 N * Guest11 Genghis 1215405677 N * Genghis Guest19 1215408465 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@88-117-7-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215409300 N * Guest19 Genghis 1215409338 N * Genghis Guest27 1215410113 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.72.187 1215412960 N * Guest27 Genghis 1215412997 N * Genghis Guest33 1215413114 J * z0d ~z0d@fw.wonderline.hu 1215413129 M * z0d re 1215413790 J * Linus ~Lee@bl7-150-197.dsl.telepac.pt 1215413983 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1215414651 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215415150 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215415636 M * hijacker hey fellows, will there be experimental patch released for 2.6.25.10? 1215415856 J * dna ~dna@170-242-dsl.kielnet.net 1215416620 N * Guest33 Genghis 1215416658 N * Genghis Guest41 1215416679 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1215417076 J * joern42 ~jr@dyndsl-091-096-046-156.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215417559 P * joern42 1215417761 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215418427 J * joern421 ~jr@dyndsl-091-096-062-136.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215418437 P * joern421 1215419178 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215419178 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1215419184 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215419451 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1215419555 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1215419944 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1215420165 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1215420202 M * Slydder morning all 1215420280 N * Guest41 Genghis 1215420318 N * Genghis Guest48 1215422391 Q * ag- Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215422471 J * ag- ~ag@fedaykin.roxor.cx 1215423535 J * cruser ~chatzilla@121.Red-79-150-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1215423646 M * cruser Hi. Is it possible for a vguest to have two IP addresses? 1215423695 M * sid3windr yes 1215423830 M * cruser Great! Do you know how? 1215423893 M * Supaplex yup. 1m 1215423938 M * Supaplex http://rafb.net/p/olKJ8y68.html 1215423940 N * Guest48 Genghis 1215423961 M * Supaplex try 1/ and 2/ etc for more. that's a wild guess, but that's what I'd do next myself. :) 1215423977 N * Genghis Guest52 1215424110 M * cruser Supaplex: Thanks. 0/ is already being used. I tried 1/ and that did not work. 1215424133 M * Supaplex did you restart the guest? 1215424157 M * cruser Yes. It was from vserver foo start 1215424162 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving. 1215424177 M * Supaplex humm. no idea. anything in the wiki? 1215424206 M * cruser I was thinking that interfaces/0, interfaces/1 have to represent real nics...? 1215424240 M * Supaplex *shrug* 1215424333 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1215424393 M * cruser Supaplex: I try variations of yours paste. Have you gotten IPs on a guest? Thanks. 1215424409 M * Supaplex I only care about one ip on a guest so far. 1215424424 M * Supaplex anyway, zzz land calls me (some 4 hours after my norm) 1215424426 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable234.72-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215424441 M * cruser two IPs ona guest. that is. 1215424459 A * marv_ waves a warm hello to all... 1215424479 M * sid3windr they don't need to represent real nics, 1/ should just work afaik 1215424484 M * bXi crap i cant access my server atm 1215424510 M * cruser sid3windr: Thanks. 1215424522 M * bXi yeah 1/ will work 1215424559 Q * marv_ 1215424875 M * cruser Thanks everyone "ifconfig" shows it working. I used interfaces/1. 1215425331 J * cruser_ ~chatzilla@121.Red-79-150-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1215425348 Q * cruser_ 1215425626 Q * cruser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215426876 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215427431 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1215427600 N * Guest52 Genghis 1215427637 N * Genghis Guest57 1215428297 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.74.189 1215428394 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-145-230.lns4.mel6.internode.on.net 1215428698 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215430992 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1215431029 M * Bertl morning folks! 1215431260 N * Guest57 Genghis 1215431297 N * Genghis Guest62 1215431975 M * pmjdebruijn mornin 1215432385 J * Slydder1 ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1215432433 Q * Slydder Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215432870 J * rgl ~rgl@bl8-135-252.dsl.telepac.pt 1215433282 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215433607 Q * Slydder1 Quit: Leaving. 1215433730 M * rgl hello 1215433749 M * daniel_hozac hi 1215434589 J * joern421 ~jr@dyndsl-091-096-062-136.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215434606 P * joern421 1215434610 J * joern421 ~jr@dyndsl-091-096-062-136.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215434614 P * joern421 1215434631 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1215434731 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1215434920 N * Guest62 Genghis 1215434957 N * Genghis Guest70 1215436811 Q * meandtheshell1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215438175 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1215438184 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1215438580 N * Guest70 Genghis 1215438617 N * Genghis Guest80 1215439261 J * meandtheshell ~sa@88-117-14-212.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215439641 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215440137 M * fanto666 what is cachebase for? 1215440159 M * daniel_hozac caching dlimit values across reboots. 1215440628 J * dniel ~ary@200.16.16.15 1215440692 M * dniel Hi everyone! 1215440786 M * dniel where can I find more information about setattr? 1215440817 M * dniel I don't understand how it works :( 1215440840 M * daniel_hozac setattr --help 1215440879 M * dniel daniel_hozac, yes. I did that, but it didn't help me. Only the usages 1215440949 M * dniel I don't understand the flags when I do showattr 1215441003 M * dniel I see a lot of people that doing setattr --barrier /var/lib/vservers 1215441101 M * dniel and they say this is for more security. Is it correct? 1215441155 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215442119 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1215442240 N * Guest80 Genghis 1215442278 N * Genghis Guest91 1215442281 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215442305 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1215443315 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1215444360 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1215444364 M * Bertl back now ... 1215445900 N * Guest91 Genghis 1215445937 N * Genghis Guest100 1215446119 N * _Hunger Hunger 1215446142 F * ChanServ +o Bertl 1215446192 K Guest100 Bertl same as last time, please fix your client, 2 nick changes per hour are inacceptable 1215446213 F * Bertl -o Bertl 1215446237 M * fanto666 hmmm 1215446804 M * bXi hmmm 1215446821 M * bXi are there plans for allowing people in certain groups to allow to start/stop certain vservers? 1215446838 M * daniel_hozac sudo? 1215446869 M * bXi then you can start every vserver 1215446877 M * daniel_hozac no... 1215446884 M * bXi not? 1215446885 M * daniel_hozac you can get very specific with sudo. 1215446925 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1215446926 M * bXi hmmmm 1215446931 M * bXi i'll have to look into that then 1215446973 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1215447206 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1215447549 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1215448276 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1215448310 P * emag 1215448418 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1215449423 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1215449423 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215449852 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.201.30 1215449860 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1215449932 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.78.49 1215450094 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.193.100 1215450200 J * z0d ~z0d@apn-89-223-131-72.vodafone.hu 1215450208 M * z0d re 1215450326 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215452142 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl 1215452150 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1215453388 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1215453939 J * BenoitStandre ~bstandre@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca 1215453968 M * BenoitStandre hello everyone 1215454005 M * BenoitStandre I was looking at the page http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Disk_Limits_and_Quota, and I'm not sure I understand correctly what the "vdu" command does 1215454032 M * BenoitStandre I thought vdu was a wrapper around "du" , aware of unifcation 1215454063 M * BenoitStandre or maybe this is the meaning of the "(why do we have two commands ??) " on the wiki page 1215454091 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1215454095 M * daniel_hozac vdu is its own program, that only counts files with the specified xid. 1215454112 M * daniel_hozac or, tag rather. 1215454164 M * BenoitStandre Ok, in this case, is there any way of knowing how much disk space is saved by unification ? (or, the opposite way, what is the weight of the unified files) ? 1215454189 M * daniel_hozac du -sch /vservers/ /vservers/ 1215454217 M * daniel_hozac the size of guest1 - the size the of guest2 = how much you saved. 1215454217 M * BenoitStandre ! 1215454221 M * BenoitStandre too obvious 1215454221 M * BenoitStandre :-) 1215454338 M * BenoitStandre Sorry for the noise. So ,on the wiki page, I'll add for clearer info that "You can also use the ''vdu'' command ... to count space or inodes used in a specific vserver", that would be good ? 1215454402 M * daniel_hozac used _by_ a specific guest. 1215454431 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1215454437 M * BenoitStandre of course 1215454484 M * BenoitStandre done, thanks for your help, sorry for the noise 1215455430 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1215455559 Q * rgl Quit: Saindo 1215455632 M * z0d bye 1215455634 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1215456492 J * Genghis ~Genghis@got.debian-inside.com 1215456513 Q * BenoitStandre Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215456710 J * simonp ~simonp@132.208.20.9 1215457134 J * BenoitStandre ~bstandre@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca 1215457335 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215458004 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.183.51 1215459096 J * dib ~dib@98.165.75-86.rev.gaoland.net 1215459190 M * dib hi! trying a reboot from the guest (ubuntu dapper) give an error: shutdown: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1215459247 M * dib host using a linux 2.6.22.18-vs2.2.0.6 kernel 1215459254 M * daniel_hozac why? 1215459264 J * dniel ~ary@200.16.16.15 1215459267 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 is pretty old by now. 1215459278 M * daniel_hozac also, use reboot -f/halt -f 1215459502 M * dniel I did that in the host: touch test1; setattr --iunlink test1; ln test1 /var/lib/vservers/cyntia/home; vserver enter cyntia; But I can't modify this file :( 1215459502 M * dib fine, it's works! Are there any good reasons to compile a new kernel ? 1215459507 M * dniel any idea? 1215459540 M * dniel read-only 1215459572 M * daniel_hozac dib: you mean, other than the two oopses fixed in Linux-VServer? 1215459739 M * dib damn, haven't meet them for now, but i'm going to compile that new kernel (and subscribe me to the mailing list!) 1215460026 M * dib which 2.6.19 to choose among rev 1 to 7 ? The last one is ok ? 1215460072 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1215460279 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1215460309 M * dib i see linux-2.6.19.1.tar.bz2, linux-2.6.19.2.tar.bz2, etc... 1215460340 M * dib downloading 2.6.19.7 anyway 1215460390 M * daniel_hozac uh. 1215460395 M * daniel_hozac i said 2.6.22.19. 1215460481 M * dib hum! yes, looking at the date of the archives, i see my mistake :-( 1215461155 M * dib by the way, there was a page somewhere explaining the nice way to patch a kernel by making a parallel dir with a hard link. do you know the way to do it ? 1215461263 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6 1215461485 M * dib thx! 1215461540 Q * BenoitStandre Remote host closed the connection 1215463031 J * SIMPOTIK ~simpa@host86-170-186-69.range86-170.btcentralplus.com 1215463326 Q * SIMPOTIK 1215463654 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B5FDE.dip.t-dialin.net 1215464257 Q * loddafnir Remote host closed the connection 1215465888 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215465976 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1215467221 J * dniel ~ary@host22.190-136-233.telecom.net.ar 1215467398 M * dniel daniel_hozac: Hi!. Sorry to bother you but I did find /path/to/template -type f -print0 | xargs -0 setattr --iunlink and then vserver ... build -m clone. But it doesn't work because when I try to modify a file it is only in read mode 1215467428 M * dniel :( 1215467494 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1215467618 M * dniel daniel_hozac: I want to do a virtual server using CoW as you told me yesterday 1215467659 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215467717 M * dniel but when I did this 1215467720 M * dniel find /path/to/template -type f -print0 | xargs -0 setattr --iunlink and then vserver ... build -m clone 1215467776 M * dniel But it doesn't work because when I try to modify a file it is only in read mode 1215467784 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215467913 M * daniel_hozac what claims that? 1215467927 M * daniel_hozac what does touch say? 1215467933 M * daniel_hozac does your kernel have COW enabled? 1215468072 M * dniel daniel_hozac: for example: when I do vim /etc/resolv.conf It say "Warning: Changing a readonly file" 1215468119 M * dniel daniel_hozac: I don't know. Good idea. I install an image-kernel from debian repository 1215468147 J * dna_ ~dna@170-242-dsl.kielnet.net 1215468193 M * daniel_hozac dniel: but what does it say if you try to write to it? 1215468228 M * dniel daniel_hozac: E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override) 1215468241 M * daniel_hozac or, even more interestingly, what does echo/touch have to say. 1215468352 M * dniel daniel_hozac: bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied 1215468375 M * daniel_hozac so, most likely, your kernel does not support COW. 1215468383 M * daniel_hozac you can run testme.sh -d to verify. 1215468383 M * dniel daniel_hozac: glups! 1215468405 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215468528 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215468615 M * dniel daniel_hozac: ok! I'll try it and then. I keep you updated. 1215468663 M * dniel I'll be back in a few minutes 1215468668 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1215468959 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@ANantes-157-1-168-136.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr 1215468995 Q * the_fafa Quit: the_fafa 1215469034 J * dniel ~ary@host22.190-136-233.telecom.net.ar 1215469042 Q * ViRUS Quit: Leaving 1215469046 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.219.6 1215469091 J * the_fafa ~fafa@p5496D942.dip.t-dialin.net 1215469396 M * dniel daniel_hozac: yes! you're on right! My kernel don't have CoW support 1215469419 M * dniel daniel_hozac: thanks a lot for the help! 1215469445 M * dniel daniel_hozac: I'll compile a new kernel 1215469672 Q * Linus Quit: I'll Be Back! 1215469892 Q * dib Quit: Ex-Chat 1215469964 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1215470026 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215471068 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-119-17.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1215471610 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1215471775 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1215472065 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.74.92