1215043365 Q * joern421 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215044192 J * the_herby ~herby@p5496CFCA.dip.t-dialin.net 1215044273 Q * the_herby 1215044608 J * the_herby ~herby@p5496CFCA.dip.t-dialin.net 1215044621 Q * the-herby Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215044660 J * openblast ~quassel@static.230.173.47.78.clients.your-server.de 1215044714 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B8FB6.versanet.de 1215044803 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215044816 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215044816 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215045410 Q * marv_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215045466 Q * tam_ Quit: Lost terminal 1215045548 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1215046320 J * alex-grishanov ~alexey_gr@port-126-pool-91-187-9.infonet.by 1215046324 M * alex-grishanov hi2all 1215046377 J * Wonka_ produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1215046394 Q * Wonka Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215046394 N * Wonka_ Wonka 1215046428 M * alex-grishanov which option i should enable when doing "make menuconfig" to work properly loadavg of guest machines on main machine? 1215046446 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand the question. 1215046449 M * alex-grishanov i.e. /proc/virtual//cvirt 1215046468 M * alex-grishanov earlier cvirt was like /proc/loadavg 1215046489 M * alex-grishanov but right now there are only 0 there instead of loadavg numbers 1215046493 M * alex-grishanov but if i will enter 1215046508 M * alex-grishanov to guest i will see that loadavg is not 0 1215046524 M * daniel_hozac and virt_loadavg is set? 1215046539 M * alex-grishanov where? 1215046551 M * daniel_hozac sorry, virt_load. 1215046556 M * daniel_hozac vattribute --get --xid 1215046561 M * daniel_hozac it should appear in the flags section. 1215046585 M * alex-grishanov nope 1215046597 M * alex-grishanov only virt_uptime 1215046604 M * alex-grishanov and other 1215046610 M * alex-grishanov no virt_load 1215046645 M * daniel_hozac so, set that to get the virtualized load inside the guest. 1215047023 M * alex-grishanov yeah, it works. thanks 1215047124 P * alex-grishanov 1215047307 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215047536 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215047831 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215048419 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1215050198 Q * the_herby Quit: Ex-Chat 1215052854 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23E38B.dip.t-dialin.net 1215053286 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215055440 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-61-144-35.bhm.bellsouth.net 1215056271 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215056804 J * grobie ~grobie@valgrind.schnuckelig.eu 1215060924 J * wumpiss Yeezy1@c-76-16-0-64.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1215060974 M * wumpiss --------------------MELODIC POPULAR MUSIC PRODUCERS---------------------- www.soundclick.com/josephsmithproductions 1215061014 Q * wumpiss 1215063121 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1215063830 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215064543 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1215064564 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215065224 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.207.32 1215065265 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215065516 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1215066187 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-035.ethz.ch 1215066335 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215066659 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@88-117-8-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215066756 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215067148 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.217.131 1215068505 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.138.233 1215068770 J * z0d ~z0d@apn-89-223-128-245.vodafone.hu 1215068782 M * z0d hello 1215068884 M * Supaplex hi 1215068885 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1215069056 M * z0d can one create more than 8 vroot devices? (a vroot device can only be used for 1 partition, right?) 1215069529 J * derjohn_foo aj@p57A6CF80.dip.t-dialin.net 1215070537 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable090.217-57-74.mc.videotron.ca 1215070906 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1215071001 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1215071090 Q * marv_ Quit: Leaving 1215072002 Q * meandtheshell1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215073141 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1215073161 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215073961 Q * ex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215075098 J * dna ~dna@7-224-dsl.kielnet.net 1215075320 J * joern42 ~jr@dyndsl-080-228-187-180.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215075385 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1215075461 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1215075484 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215075770 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1215076421 M * arekm hm, mv /vservers/guest /otherplace; ln -s /otherplace /vservers/guest and vserver guest start doesn't work well 1215076425 M * arekm utils don't seem to like symlinks 1215076427 M * arekm http://pld.pastebin.com/f5a5328d1 1215076616 M * sid3windr change the vdir in the config instead? 1215076796 M * arekm that works, thanks 1215078218 Q * ex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215078706 Q * loddafnir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215078742 J * loddafni1 ~mike@193.170.138.233 1215079520 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1215079688 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1215080192 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215080235 M * z0d What's the use of /etc/vservers/vserver-name/sysctl? Guests will 'inherit' sysctl settings from the host, won't they? 1215083055 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215083066 M * daniel_hozac but sometimes you might want to change certain values, e.g. IPC settings. 1215083113 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-134-156.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net 1215083141 M * daniel_hozac and one can create more than 8 vroots. just load the module with max_vroot=255 or similar. 1215083186 M * z0d daniel_hozac: thank you 1215083216 M * z0d daniel_hozac: so the sysctl file is just convenience. it's the same as if I've changed the value from the host 1215083244 M * daniel_hozac sometimes you don't want to have the same values. 1215083386 M * z0d ah, true. e.g. hostname can be different. I see, thank you 1215084115 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1215084672 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable090.217-57-74.mc.videotron.ca 1215084696 Q * marv_ 1215084705 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable090.217-57-74.mc.videotron.ca 1215085341 Q * marv_ Remote host closed the connection 1215085356 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable090.217-57-74.mc.videotron.ca 1215085599 J * JohnL ~john@195.171.3.9 1215085621 M * fanto666 if I want to exec own process instead of /sbin/init, do I have to put it into apps/init/cmd.start ? 1215085667 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215085679 M * fanto666 can it contain cmd-line arguents? 1215085711 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1215085718 M * daniel_hozac just put them on each on separate lines. 1215085745 M * daniel_hozac e.g. echo -e "/path/to/script\narg1\narg2" > apps/init/cmd.start 1215085747 M * fanto666 so it's not run by /bin/sh ? 1215085754 M * fanto666 good 1215085761 M * daniel_hozac no, it's execed directly. 1215085787 M * fanto666 ah, I missed it on the great flower... 1215085791 M * fanto666 thanks 1215086011 M * JohnL Hi all, I'm trying to debug why a vs thats been migrated from another host server can't start. it's FC6 host, 2.6.20 kernel, I've got as far as figuring chroot is causing issues. 1215086024 M * JohnL chroot /vservers/vs240 1215086034 M * JohnL chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory 1215086045 M * daniel_hozac what does ls -l /vservers/vs240 show? 1215086051 M * fanto666 ls -l /vservers/vs240/bin/bash 1215086055 M * daniel_hozac (use paste.linux-vserver.org) 1215086075 M * z0d Don't you need to use vserver vs240 enter, instead of chrooting? 1215086093 M * daniel_hozac to enter the actual guest, sure. 1215086107 M * JohnL pasted to paste 1215086121 M * fanto666 using chroot can be enough to find out if important packages were installed to the vserver 1215086162 M * JohnL just posted the error I get when I try to start the vserver 1215086164 M * daniel_hozac JohnL: please, ls -l /vservers/vs240. 1215086208 M * JohnL Thanks daniel, done that on paste.... 1215086250 M * fanto666 :-) 18. 1215086252 M * fanto666 You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root 1215086257 M * daniel_hozac okay, ldd /vservers/vs240/bin/bash 1215086274 M * daniel_hozac then for each file it mentions, make sure it exists in the guest. 1215086372 M * JohnL yes, 5 files, all in /lib and they exist 1215086397 M * fanto666 do they in /vservers/vs240/lib ? 1215086399 M * daniel_hozac try stracing the chroot. 1215086401 M * JohnL from the host box I can go /vservers/vs240/bin/bash and it gives me a shell ok. But I understand what you're getting at 1215086426 M * JohnL done that, earlier, will paste some of the output to paste..... 1215086426 M * daniel_hozac that's using the host's libraries. 1215086446 M * fanto666 JohnL do the libs exist in /vservers/vs240/lib ? 1215086463 M * JohnL yes 1215086470 Q * marv_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215086470 M * JohnL ok strace for chroot in paste now 1215086493 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable234.165-83-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215086529 M * daniel_hozac just to make sure, you _do_ have 32-bit emulation enabled in your kernel? 1215086545 Q * marv_ 1215086576 M * fanto666 he wouldn't be able to exec it from the host 1215086627 M * JohnL kernel is a prebuilt from one of the 'official' sites 1215086804 M * fanto666 well, chroot should work on any kernel 1215086826 M * JohnL [root@svr60 vservers]# ldd /vservers/vs240/bin/bash 1215086826 M * JohnL linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) 1215086826 M * JohnL libtermcap.so.2 => /lib/libtermcap.so.2 (0xf7ff1000) 1215086826 M * JohnL libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00776000) 1215086826 M * JohnL libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00634000) 1215086828 M * JohnL /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00617000) 1215086850 M * JohnL the linux-gate.so.1 is that line indicating that the file is missing? 1215086856 M * fanto666 does init_style matter when I have cmd.start defined? 1215086859 M * daniel_hozac no, that's fine. 1215086871 M * daniel_hozac fanto666: yes, choose the one that's most appropriate. 1215086898 M * fanto666 most possibly 'plain' if it's not real init 1215086953 M * daniel_hozac i'd wager you want sysv if you're just running some application. 1215086988 M * daniel_hozac (assuming it daemonizes) 1215087095 M * fanto666 pardon? 1215087155 M * fanto666 well, I don't understand differences described on http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:InitStyles 1215087168 M * fanto666 "aunches a unique init process for the guest that appears to run as PID 1." - who launches? 1215087214 M * daniel_hozac the vserver ... start script, of course. 1215087496 M * fanto666 I understood that as the "vserver <...> start" will execute whatever I set in apps/init/cmd.start 1215087610 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215087624 M * fanto666 while for "sysv" the "vserver start" script executes each script in /etc/rc?.d/ 1215087637 M * daniel_hozac no, that also runs apps/init/cmd.start. 1215087652 M * daniel_hozac apps/init/cmd.start overrides whatever the default command is for the current initstyle. 1215087770 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1215087802 M * fanto666 so what's the difference? is 'sysv' expected to background itself while 'plain' is not? 1215087814 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1215087820 M * daniel_hozac plain is stopped by killing pid 1. 1215087824 M * daniel_hozac sysv runs a command. 1215087832 M * daniel_hozac (apps/init/cmd.stop) 1215087847 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable139.74-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215087885 M * JohnL so is there anything that I can do to figure out whats wrong? I've figured if we build the vserver on a host it works fine. If we move a vs from one host to another thats the error we're seeing. 1215087909 M * daniel_hozac JohnL: how are you moving them? 1215087931 M * daniel_hozac also, make sure that all the files are executable. 1215087939 M * JohnL tar on the old host and unzip to the new 1215087954 M * marv_ did you take the /etc/vserver/ folder too? 1215087974 M * JohnL yes 1215088048 M * fanto666 johynl was the first host 64bit too? 1215088096 M * JohnL no 1215088113 M * JohnL but we do have 64bit hosts that run 32bit clients fine 1215088126 M * fanto666 johnl try renaming lib to lib32 in the vserver if it helps 1215088154 M * fanto666 /vservers/vs240/lib to /vservers/vs240/lib32 1215088254 M * JohnL ok 1215088427 M * JohnL no change 1215088451 M * fanto666 hmmm 1215088484 M * fanto666 do ls -l / 1215088486 M * fanto666 ops 1215088497 M * fanto666 do ls -l /vservers/vs240/lib32/ld-* 1215088514 M * marv_ isnt there links done in /etc/vservers thay may not be transfered in the tar cmd? 1215088519 M * marv_ vdir and such 1215088531 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1215088558 M * marv_ vdir cach and run 1215088563 M * marv_ cache * err 1215088581 M * JohnL [root@svr60 vs240]# ls -l /vservers/vs240/lib/ld-* 1215088581 M * JohnL lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jun 30 12:32 /vservers/vs240/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.3.6.so 1215088581 M * JohnL lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jun 30 12:32 /vservers/vs240/lib/ld-linux.so.2~ -> ld-2.3.2.so 1215088644 M * JohnL ah those symlinks are bad 1215088683 M * fanto666 remove the ! sne you seem to be missing ld-2.3.6.so 1215088711 M * fanto666 remove the ~ and you seem to be missing ld-2.3.6.so 1215088902 M * JohnL ok thanks, I'll see if I can move this myself now, got to shoot for lunch :-) 1215088919 M * JohnL Thanks for your assistance, it's been bugging me for ages. 1215089140 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.198.0 1215089224 M * fanto666 daniel_hozac: if the command exited (e.g. backgrounded) in plain vserver, would it be understood as error? 1215089235 Q * fatgoose Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215090126 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215090184 Q * marv_ Remote host closed the connection 1215090495 M * daniel_hozac fanto666: it's supposed to work, but that code is pretty much untested. 1215090617 M * fanto666 daniel_hozac: then I just don't understand the diff from the wiki docs :) 1215090633 M * fanto666 daniel_hozac: still much thanks for help 1215090691 M * daniel_hozac stop is the important difference. 1215090724 M * fanto666 killing the command vs. issuing "halt" ? 1215090747 M * daniel_hozac no, killing pid 1 vs. running a command. 1215090766 M * daniel_hozac since there's no pid 1 any more if you daemonize... it's not going to stop gracefully. 1215090794 M * fanto666 aha! 1215090877 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1215090911 M * fanto666 I'm thinking about butting this info into wiki 1215090953 M * fanto666 so killing the process (if we know its pid) should work always 1215091493 J * meandtheshell ~sa@88-117-9-15.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215091493 Q * meandtheshell Killed (resistance.oftc.net (Nick collision (new))) 1215091547 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@88-117-9-15.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215091667 M * fanto666 works 1215091941 M * z0d can you bridge ppp0 yet? 1215091966 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand the question. 1215092027 M * z0d can you create a bridge between an ethernet and a ppp device? 1215092063 M * daniel_hozac given that they are entirely different encapsulations, i don't see why that would ever work. 1215092481 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1215092633 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1215092636 M * Bertl morning folks! 1215092645 M * daniel_hozac morning 1215092719 M * fanto666 z0d I has machine connected via PPP to another machine on ethernet. I turned on 'proxyarp' so the ppp-machine was seen in the eth network 1215092727 M * fanto666 but that has nothing to do with vservers I'd say :) 1215092740 M * fanto666 s/has/had/ 1215092855 M * z0d daniel_hozac: I wanted give internet access to one of the vservers by bridging ppp0 to an eth device 1215092889 M * daniel_hozac i don't see how you accomplish that by bridging. 1215093081 M * fanto666 z0d you can give it another IP on eth0 1215093103 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1215093171 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable139.74-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215093191 M * fanto666 find: `var/lock': No such file or directory 1215093506 Q * kwowt- Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215093637 M * fanto666 hmmm, called by function prepareInit for 'sysv' styles 1215093659 M * fanto666 g/sysv 1215093664 M * fanto666 ops 1215093909 M * fanto666 daniel_hozac if I know the pid and set cmd.stop, is it irelevant if it's sysv of plain type? 1215093942 M * daniel_hozac no, as i said, plain initstyle simply kills pid 1. 1215093949 M * daniel_hozac sysv runs cmd.stop. 1215093955 M * fanto666 aha 1215094259 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net 1215094397 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1215094422 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215094448 J * dna ~dna@7-224-dsl.kielnet.net 1215094479 Q * mrfree Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215094573 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl 1215094579 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1215094987 Q * marv_ Remote host closed the connection 1215095023 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215095286 M * snooze hm, for chxid to work, you need the tag mount option 1215095292 M * snooze which i have for my /vservers (type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noacl,data=writeback,tag)) 1215095315 M * snooze however.. does / need to be ext3 as well then? 1215095323 M * daniel_hozac no. 1215095332 M * snooze hm ok 1215095351 M * snooze because i'm still getting Invalid argument for all files when executing chxid 1215095416 M * daniel_hozac so most likely it's not mounted with the right opiotn. 1215095430 M * snooze thing is tho 1215095447 M * snooze i just tested in vmware with the same kernel conf (well almost) 1215095451 M * snooze and same mount options 1215095453 M * snooze and it works 1215095474 M * daniel_hozac cat /proc/mounts 1215095511 M * snooze /dev/hda8 /vservers ext3 rw,noatime,nodiratime,data=writeback 0 0 1215095513 M * snooze thats weird 1215095539 M * snooze mount shows the tag option 1215095545 M * daniel_hozac mount is a liar. 1215095555 M * snooze hehe 1215095559 M * snooze hm 1215095568 M * daniel_hozac depending on your kernel, you might actually want tagxid. 1215095593 M * snooze what does it depend on? 1215095600 M * snooze im gonna test tho 1215095655 M * snooze mount -o tagxid /dev/hda8 /vservers 1215095656 M * snooze /dev/hda8 /vservers ext3 rw,data=writeback 0 0 1215095719 M * daniel_hozac the version of your kernel. 1215095736 M * snooze thats 2.6.22.19 1215095743 M * daniel_hozac and, of course, whether you've enabled tagging in it. 1215095756 M * micah it looks like in the newer vserver patch, if I do not have an interface defined in /etc/vservers/guest/interfaces, it doesn't default to the host's interface any longer 1215095757 M * daniel_hozac that's half the version... the irrelevant half. 1215095766 M * daniel_hozac micah: yes. 1215095777 M * daniel_hozac that was always a bug, IMHO. 1215095784 M * micah :) 1215095787 M * micah good to know for migration 1215095801 M * micah I guess I should use nodev? 1215095823 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1215095827 M * snooze daniel_hozac: half the version? it's patched with patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7-grsec2.1.11-20080317.diff anyway 1215095835 M * micah I'm always confused which way to configure it so it wont tear down the host's interface 1215095990 M * harry wiiiii... my patch, it gets used again! :) 1215096065 M * snooze of course i use your patch harry ;) 1215096308 M * harry i use it myself too, off course ;) 1215096358 A * harry off ==> home! 1215096387 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1215096906 Q * meandtheshell1 Quit: Leaving. 1215096920 M * snooze hmmm.. seems to be possible to use dlimits without tagging the guest dir? 1215096954 M * daniel_hozac no. 1215096975 J * meandtheshell ~sa@88-117-9-15.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215096989 M * snooze /dev/hdv1 1.0G 0 1013M 0% / 1215096997 M * snooze still it was limited to 1GB, but doesnt show any used space 1215097003 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1215097011 M * daniel_hozac and any new files you create also won't show up. 1215097049 M * snooze thats gonna be annoying 1215097055 M * snooze so any idea why chxid wont work for me? 1215097076 M * daniel_hozac no. try with a vanilla vserver kernel... 1215097091 M * snooze :/ 1215097119 M * snooze yet it works with the grsec one in vmware 1215097132 M * daniel_hozac so figure out what differs. 1215097158 M * snooze yeah 1215097513 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1215098270 Q * transacid Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215098717 Q * dowdle Quit: Konversation terminated! 1215098722 M * micah daniel_hozac: do you have any plans for when the next utils release will be? I'm just looking at debian freezing this month and wondering 1215098767 M * daniel_hozac as i said last night, whenever the 2.6.25 API is finalized and it works, i'll release. 1215098798 M * Bertl_oO that means the pid space stuff? 1215098818 M * micah daniel_hozac: hmm, I didn't see your response last night, sorry 1215098823 M * daniel_hozac i guess that's the biggest thing. 1215098841 M * Bertl_oO okay, will focus on that then ... 1215098956 M * micah daniel_hozac: since I do not know the exact date, it might be good to consider reviewing with you a set of patches that could be put in in lieu of a release... just in case things dont line up 1215098964 M * micah maybe next week 1215099000 M * daniel_hozac i'd just grab trunk. 1215099020 M * daniel_hozac it's only minor bugfixes since 0.30.215. 1215099025 M * daniel_hozac IIRC... 1215099135 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1215099400 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1215099564 J * fatgoose ~samuel@82.80.modemcable.oricom.ca 1215099660 M * micah cool, thanks 1215100323 J * yarihm ~yarihm@62.65.128.217 1215100440 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1215100623 Q * yarihm 1215102804 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable139.74-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215103394 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1215103648 Q * marv_ Remote host closed the connection 1215103806 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1215104264 J * marv_ ~marv@modemcable139.74-82-70.mc.videotron.ca 1215104909 J * kir1 ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215105277 Q * kir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215105403 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1215105410 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1215105582 Q * JohnL Quit: Leaving. 1215105752 Q * kir1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215106457 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215106703 M * sladen Bertl_oO: is there a current way to force ifconfig -a to show all 1215106744 M * marv_ use iproute2 1215107124 M * Bertl_oO sladen: ifconfig is outdated for like hmm. 8 years now? 1215107156 M * Bertl_oO sladen: iproute2 has replaced ifconfig for a long time and works with all recent and past kernels 1215107176 M * marv_ ip a (for short) 1215107181 M * marv_ ip addr show (for long) 1215107184 M * marv_ same results 1215108029 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-198-010.pools.arcor-ip.net 1215108405 Q * NaioN_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215108421 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1215108857 J * NaioN stefan@misc.mordor.unilogicnetworks.net 1215110265 J * z0d ~z0d@apn-89-223-128-245.vodafone.hu 1215110270 M * z0d hello 1215110384 M * Bertl_oO hello z0d! 1215110423 M * z0d hi Bertl 1215110940 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1215111200 J * dna_ ~dna@7-224-dsl.kielnet.net 1215111325 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215111896 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215112217 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1215112627 Q * meandtheshell Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215112653 Q * dna_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215112708 J * dna ~dna@7-224-dsl.kielnet.net 1215113227 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-61-144-35.bhm.bellsouth.net 1215114349 Q * ard Quit: [BX] Save water -- drink beer! 1215114889 Q * z0d Remote host closed the connection 1215115119 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net 1215115579 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@88-117-23-163.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1215115980 J * joern421 ~jr@dyndsl-080-228-191-020.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1215116311 Q * joern42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215116934 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1215117312 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-119-17.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1215117317 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1215117383 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1215117459 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer 1215117885 Q * meandtheshell1 Quit: Leaving. 1215117973 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-119-17.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1215118079 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1215119578 Q * loddafni1 Remote host closed the connection 1215119850 J * dniel ~ary@host115.200-117-122.telecom.net.ar 1215119892 M * dniel hi daniel_hozac! Can I ask you a question? 1215119907 M * daniel_hozac why not. 1215119945 M * dniel what is the correct form or the best to make a backup of a guest? 1215119963 M * daniel_hozac i use rsync. 1215119982 M * daniel_hozac dump/tar/cpio/etc. all work too. 1215120009 M * marv_ you forgot rsync 1215120013 M * marv_ :P 1215120021 M * marv_ howdy dan 1215120046 M * daniel_hozac umm, rsync was the first one i mentioned... 1215120061 M * marv_ now thats just proof that i need to goto bed 1215120065 M * marv_ lol 1215120131 M * dniel is it ok if I do a tar.gz and then I restore from a template (this template)? 1215120149 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1215120163 M * dniel a tar.gz of /var/lib/vservers/my_server 1215120208 M * dniel daniel_hozac: thank :) 1215120397 M * dniel daniel_hozac: and the configurations files (/etc/vserver/my_server)? How can I do a backup and then restore this files? 1215120424 M * daniel_hozac same. 1215120499 M * dniel daniel_hozac: because when I do "vserver --build" it will generate new configurations files 1215120510 M * dniel ah.. ok! 1215120659 M * dniel daniel_hozac: Are you busy? can I ash you another question? 1215120858 M * dniel daniel_hozac: can I install in other machine a opensuse11, then make a tar.gz and then move this tar.gz into my vserver and generate a guest from this tar.gz? obviously doing the necesary change 1215120879 M * dniel will it work? 1215120888 M * NaioN why not? 1215120917 M * NaioN we build a template of a vserver (in this case a debian) and we use it for a lot of vservers 1215120957 M * NaioN the template isn't more than a directory with all the files (or the tar.gz) you mention 1215120985 M * NaioN the only thing you have to do is to edit some files and change the settings to the new vserver 1215121001 M * NaioN thinks like hostname etc 1215121034 M * dniel NaioN: yes I supused that, but I never see a opensuse guest running into a vserver 1215121045 M * NaioN ofcourse you also have to copy the /etc/vserver/vservername dir 1215121055 M * dniel NaioN: yes 1215121083 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1215121098 M * daniel_hozac you'll have to modify it to do the right thing in a guest. 1215121101 M * NaioN in our setting we can move vservers from server to server 1215121139 M * NaioN daniel_hozac: yes thats the most work, checking all the files that need to be changed 1215121176 M * daniel_hozac only weird distributions need that. 1215121184 M * dniel daniel_hozac: for example, Do I need to remove the modules services in this guest? 1215121191 M * daniel_hozac Debian/Red Hat-derived distros can just use debian/redhat initpost scripts. 1215121203 M * daniel_hozac dniel: you can't load modules, so yes, that'd make snse. 1215121207 M * daniel_hozac sense even. 1215121208 M * NaioN dniel: yes, you can't load modules 1215121245 M * dniel daniel_hozac, NaioN : ahh! okey! Yes.. I read this in the wiki 1215121247 M * NaioN dniel: what are you trying to do? 1215121277 M * NaioN or what do you want to do? 1215121327 M * dniel NaioN: my boss loves opensuse and he want that I install a opensuse into vserver. 1215121341 M * dniel NaioN: I don't like opensuse but he is my boss 1215121358 M * dniel NaioN: my vserver (the host) is a debian etch 1215121389 M * NaioN ok, well it will give you some work 1215121394 M * dniel NaioN: and I want to install a opensuse guest 1215121398 M * dniel NaioN: why? 1215121432 M * NaioN well i think you want to install a opensuse distro on a server and pack it and unpack it in a guest? 1215121478 M * NaioN am i right? 1215121495 M * dniel NaioN: yes. I think that 1215121506 M * NaioN that will give you a lot of work :) 1215121519 M * NaioN because you need to edit a lot of files i think 1215121528 M * dniel NaioN: ahahha 1215121528 M * NaioN and change the init scripts 1215121548 M * dniel NaioN: wich files for example? 1215121565 M * NaioN as you stated the modules scripts 1215121571 M * NaioN but also for networking 1215121588 M * NaioN the mounting scripts 1215121601 M * NaioN to name a few 1215121606 M * dniel glups! 1215121637 M * NaioN and distro's like suse and redhat also have a lot of services that are hardware related 1215121648 M * dniel hahaha! I hate opensuse. 1215121659 M * NaioN you can't use any of them, so you have to strip them all 1215121739 M * dniel NaioN: what distribution are running in your host? 1215121745 M * dniel debian? 1215121746 M * NaioN debian 1215121747 M * NaioN yeps 1215121755 M * NaioN that's one of the easiest ;) 1215121763 M * dniel yes 1215121772 M * NaioN because you have a script that you can use 1215121782 M * NaioN and it generates a new guest 1215121803 M * dniel NaioN: and is your host a debian? 1215121807 M * NaioN yeps 1215121839 M * dniel NaioN: and what are they running into? 1215121850 M * NaioN debian on debian :) 1215121851 M * dniel NaioN: what service? 1215121855 M * NaioN oh 1215121868 M * NaioN samba, cups, mysql, interbase 1215121906 M * NaioN they are acting mostly as file and printer servers 1215121947 M * dniel NaioN: I thought that samba have problems into a vserver 1215121960 M * NaioN no problems here... 1215121960 M * dniel I read this in the wiki 1215121970 M * dniel :) 1215121972 M * NaioN could you give me the link? 1215121978 M * dniel yes... 1215122010 M * NaioN most services/daemons have to be bond to the IP of the vservers 1215122021 M * dniel NaioN: http://linux-vserver.org/Problematic_Programs 1215122070 M * dniel to the real server? 1215122088 M * NaioN no every guest gets one or more ips 1215122121 M * dniel NaioN: yes yes. 1215122124 M * dniel NaioN: http://linux-vserver.org/Problematic_Programs#Samba_printer_and_file_server_with_cups 1215122137 M * dniel cups is in this link 1215122193 M * dniel do you have any problem with this deamons? 1215122201 M * NaioN no 1215122210 M * dniel excellent :) 1215122255 M * NaioN you can use the link you paste to get them working 1215122324 M * dniel NaioN: I'm thinking to install a postfix into a debian guest. My host is debian 1215122341 M * NaioN that shouldn't be hard 1215122356 M * NaioN postfix should be easier than samba 1215122391 M * dniel yes... I think this 1215122397 M * dniel more hard is install opensuse. hahaha! 1215122415 M * NaioN yes i think you'll have some work with it 1215122439 M * dniel NaioN: if I can do that, I'll documentate this in the wiki 1215122458 M * NaioN that would be nice 1215122505 M * NaioN but i think we haven't had those problems with samba because every guest gets it own interface 1215122586 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@42.120-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1215122633 M * dniel How? Do you have a lot of interfaces? 1215122709 M * NaioN vlanning 1215122720 M * dniel :) 1215122811 M * dniel Ok.... I'm going to class. 1215122825 M * NaioN good luck! 1215122832 M * dniel NaioN: nice to chat with you, and thank for the information 1215122841 M * dniel thank daniel_hozac. 1215122850 M * dniel byes :) 1215122856 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1215122913 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1215123089 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1215123633 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1215124116 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1215126137 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1215127768 Q * fatgoose Ping timeout: 480 seconds