1214265730 M * dniel Bertl_zZ: good night! Zzz 1214265974 N * Guest1520 Genghis 1214266012 N * Genghis Guest1524 1214267246 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1214268487 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1214269665 N * Guest1524 Genghis 1214269702 N * Genghis Guest1531 1214269740 J * doener_ ~doener@i577BBBE6.versanet.de 1214269843 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214273355 N * Guest1531 Genghis 1214273392 N * Genghis Guest1539 1214274665 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214274718 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-149-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1214275266 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p5B23CFBF.dip.t-dialin.net 1214275698 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214277045 N * Guest1539 Genghis 1214277082 N * Genghis Guest1548 1214277365 J * dniel ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar 1214277490 M * dniel daniel_hozac: are you here? Can you help me? 1214277727 A * dniel is going to sleep! --> ZzzzZ 1214280735 N * Guest1548 Genghis 1214280772 N * Genghis Guest1556 1214281118 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1214284425 N * Guest1556 Genghis 1214284462 N * Genghis Guest1568 1214287040 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1214287163 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1214288115 N * Guest1568 Genghis 1214288152 N * Genghis Guest1572 1214288185 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1214288193 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1214288367 F * ChanServ +o Bertl 1214288395 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-67-194.231210.adsl.tele2.no 1214288507 K Guest1572 Bertl please fix your client 1214288536 M * Bertl morning folks! 1214289447 M * yang Hi Bertl ! 1214289667 M * Bertl hey yang! how's going? 1214290337 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214290411 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B3E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1214290660 J * meandtheshell ~sa@d86-33-47-83.cust.tele2.at 1214291266 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214291910 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1214292601 J * esa bip@62.123.8.108 1214293546 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1214293931 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1214296588 F * Bertl -o Bertl 1214296610 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1214296624 M * Bertl_oO off for now .. bbl 1214297058 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1214297171 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.193.89 1214297624 Q * meandtheshell Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214298246 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214298281 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1214298308 J * meandtheshell ~sa@d86-33-47-83.cust.tele2.at 1214298929 Q * mrfree Quit: Leaving 1214299631 J * esa bip@62.123.8.108 1214300860 N * ensc Guest1599 1214300860 Q * Guest1599 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214300869 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1214301870 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-89-42.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net 1214301888 P * kir 1214302417 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@87.66.195.45 1214302417 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214304142 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1214304800 J * renihs__ ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1214304862 M * renihs__ hmm i have a very odd behaviour....if i try to ping (inside a guest) a dns name of the guest itself, it resolves correctly, but ping "freezes" (strg+c doesnt kill) 1214304867 M * renihs__ if i ping the resolved ip, it works fine 1214304976 M * renihs__ dunno if that has anything todo with vserver though, never seen this :p 1214305446 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214305757 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1214306050 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1214306126 J * meandtheshell ~sa@d86-33-47-83.cust.tele2.at 1214307269 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214307291 Q * opuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214307373 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1214308798 J * esa bip@62.123.8.108 1214309606 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1214309798 N * arekm_ arekm 1214310834 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1214311495 J * mick_home ~clamwin@h-74-2-196-226.miatflad.covad.net 1214311648 M * sid3windr 2.6.22.14-vs2.3.0.29 <- any known problem of memory corruption with this? :x 1214311697 J * matthiasw ~matthias@ulmg-4d02b689.pool.mediaWays.net 1214311796 M * matthiasw hello there... i have just a question... i discovered that the lastest diff is http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.2/patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7.diff... what should i do with ubuntu 8.04 with kernel 2.6.24 ? arent vservers possible with this kernel? 1214311995 M * kir matthiasw: it doesn't really matter what kernel it is, so you can use 8.04 with 2.6.22 kernel 1214312033 M * kir matthiasw: also ubuntu 8.04 comes with openvz kernel -- maybe you'd give it a try 1214312247 A * pmjdebruijn is currently using openvz with ubuntu 8.04 on his personal server, works fine with the -19 kerenl, earlier ones are broken 1214312257 M * matthiasw hm the problem is... we have old debianserver here... and there allready some vservers running... we want to add new server (this time with ubuntu) with the possibility to use some older vservers on this one to.. 1214312265 M * pmjdebruijn on our debian machines we use our own compiled 2.6.22.19 vserver kernels 1214312337 M * matthiasw ah so i need the 2.6.22-19 sources and it should work? ^^ 1214312346 M * pmjdebruijn matthiasw: you can install ubuntu ,and compile your own 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7, that shouldn't be an issue 1214312358 M * pmjdebruijn matthiasw: just make sure, you compile in correct hardware support 1214312359 M * matthiasw ok 1214312364 M * pmjdebruijn regular ubuntu uses a ramdisk 1214312381 M * matthiasw puh... could you give me a step by step? *g* 1214312570 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1214312703 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: does the changelog indicate it? 1214312821 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1214313065 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac: I didn't check :x 1214313091 M * pmjdebruijn matthiasw: you don't need to ramdisk if you compile in proper hardware support 1214313145 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1214313240 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1214313250 M * Bertl (for newer patches) 1214313280 M * daniel_hozac pmjdebruijn: really? Ubuntu doesn't need udev? 1214313300 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1214313386 M * Bertl matthiasw: I would advise against ubuntu on the host, it is broken in so many ways 1214313408 M * Bertl matthiasw: you can, of course, create ubuntu guests, if you must 1214313445 M * matthiasw Bertl, what for example is broken? and what do you think i should use? 1214313459 M * daniel_hozac dietlibc has been broken for so long, leading to broken util-vserver. 1214313474 M * daniel_hozac apparently it might be fixed in a recent release, but i'm not sure about the details. 1214313492 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: why shouldn't udev work without the ramdisk? 1214313523 M * daniel_hozac because most udev-based systems have no /dev-nodes at all. 1214313552 M * pmjdebruijn well it works for us with debian, with udev enabled 1214313592 M * pmjdebruijn matthiasw: swapping your kernel is always tricky if you're not intimate familiar with kernel/init stuff 1214313624 M * pmjdebruijn http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.25.8-vs2.3.0.34.12.diff 1214313632 M * pmjdebruijn how features complete alpha/beta/rc/ is that patch? 1214313641 M * daniel_hozac not feature complete. 1214313653 M * matthiasw yes i know... my last kernel compilestuff was with suse 5.3 ;) thats long ago... and i havent used linux since this old suse 1214313663 M * pmjdebruijn matthiasw: things have changed a bit 1214313673 M * matthiasw yes i think so ^^ 1214314496 Q * Mojo1978 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214315299 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1214315408 J * loddafnir ~mike@193.170.48.107 1214315725 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1214316387 N * esa eSa| 1214316571 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1214316598 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch 1214316630 Q * yarihm 1214316728 J * cruser ~chatzilla@219.Red-79-147-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1214316901 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl, daniel_hozac: isn't it a thought to sooner of later announce an alpha release, which has gotten _some_ testing, with clear release notes, what works, what doesn't, and other caveats 1214317279 Q * cruser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214317374 J * cruser ~chatzilla@3.Red-79-155-101.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1214317376 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: please rephrase 1214317661 J * cruser_ ~chatzilla@127.Red-81-35-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net 1214317692 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: now there are just some patches 1214317709 M * pmjdebruijn without a clear readme, detailing what works and what doesn't 1214317724 M * pmjdebruijn detailing some tips/caveats 1214317738 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: just making it easier to beta test 1214317798 M * Bertl please feel free to make a page about the current status with all the details (what works and what not) 1214317853 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: you think it's too soon for users to beta-test? 1214317879 M * Bertl not at all, the patches are there because they work for me 1214317901 M * daniel_hozac ard has a list at http://linux-vserver.org/GroteblupsList 1214317916 Q * cruser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214317919 N * cruser_ cruser 1214317939 M * Bertl ah, nice ... 1214318002 M * pmjdebruijn is XFS still not recommended? 1214318011 A * pmjdebruijn doesn't use XID tagging 1214318019 J * cruser_ ~chatzilla@127.Red-81-35-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net 1214318035 M * Bertl with recent kernels, the barrier flag isn't available in xfs, so no, not recommended 1214318079 M * pmjdebruijn ok 1214318082 M * pmjdebruijn :( 1214318114 M * pisco Bertl: but xfs should work basicly? f.e. in testing environments? 1214318126 M * daniel_hozac it can't work securely. 1214318129 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: feel free to sponsor xfs specific development and/or do it yourself 1214318136 M * daniel_hozac i.e. guests can break out easily. 1214318141 M * pmjdebruijn I understand 1214318143 M * Bertl pisco: yes, it's not secure, but it works 1214318185 M * pisco same issues on jfs? 1214318220 M * Bertl let me check, jfs could be fine 1214318351 M * Bertl definitely needs some testing, but looks fine from the source code PoV 1214318369 M * Bertl (both xid and attributes) 1214318401 Q * cruser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214318640 M * pisco thx for the info's 1214318645 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1214318677 M * Bertl let me know when/if you tested jfs and/or you encounter any issues 1214318806 Q * ktwilight_ Quit: dead 1214318826 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@87.66.195.45 1214319057 Q * cruser_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214319321 J * cruser_ ~chatzilla@96.Red-81-35-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net 1214319323 N * cruser_ cruser 1214319456 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214319561 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1214319669 M * matthiasw cya 1214319672 Q * matthiasw Quit: Verlassend 1214319840 Q * renihs__ Quit: Leaving 1214319956 J * yarihm ~yarihm@62.65.128.217 1214320337 Q * cruser Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214321193 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1214321421 Q * weasel Quit: Reconnecting 1214321425 J * weasel weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net 1214321536 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214321596 J * Evgeniy evgeniy@hoasnet-fe12dd00-74.dhcp.inet.fi 1214322027 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214322218 Q * Evgeniy Quit: Leaving 1214322410 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1214322786 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1214322805 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1214323684 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1214324347 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1214325923 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1214326505 M * pisco sl 1214326566 Q * ag- Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214326594 J * ag- ~ag@fedaykin.roxor.cx 1214327680 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1214327689 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1214327800 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@80.69.42.51 1214328553 M * micah pisco: apt-get install sl 1214328600 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@d86-33-47-83.cust.tele2.at 1214330462 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214331236 J * markus ~markus@chello084112136139.36.11.vie.surfer.at 1214331402 M * markus Hi. I can't get a vserver to provide the proper capabilities for ionice to work within a vserver and would like to ask for help. I've set SYS_NICE in /bcapabilities but still get "ioprio_set: Operation not permitted " when using e.g. "ionice -c3 find /". I'm using 2.6.22.19 with vserver 2.2.0.7; any idea what I'm doing wrong? 1214331573 M * daniel_hozac anything other than the best-effort class requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN. 1214331605 M * markus echo SYS_ADMIN >> /bcapabilities ? 1214331623 M * daniel_hozac you don't really want to do that... 1214331630 M * markus why? 1214331635 M * daniel_hozac CAP_SYS_ADMIN is the biggest capability of them all. 1214331650 M * markus It's a pure dev server 1214331653 M * daniel_hozac i.e. the guest can mess with all sorts of stuff. 1214331692 M * markus hach, finally it works .. thanks :) 1214331768 M * markus Just a question for my better understanding: whenever someone mentions CAP_WHATEVER he actually means the symbol WHATEVER in the file /bcapabilities , right? I find the documentation sometimes unclear on those things ... 1214331820 M * markus I banged my head for hours because http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Nice_disk_I.2FO_scheduling.2C_is_that_possible.3F doesn't mention that SYS_ADMIN is required for the full featureset ... 1214331834 Q * opuk Quit: leaving 1214331850 J * opuk ~kupo@2001:16d8:ffbd:100::10 1214331870 M * daniel_hozac bcapabilities accepts entries both with and without the prefi. 1214331872 M * daniel_hozac +x 1214331922 M * markus ah ... Do you find it ok when I add the sys_admin flag to the faq entry with your warning? 1214332057 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1214332116 M * daniel_hozac sure... 1214332325 M * markus hmm .. quite old version of mediawiki, isn't it? :-/ 1214332366 M * daniel_hozac probably from the about the time we installed it. 1214332374 M * daniel_hozac but Hollow would know for certain. 1214332784 M * markus It's 1.10 ... quite old. An upgrade to 1.12 would quite some improvements, especially for editing. 1214333554 J * joern ~chatzilla@dyndsl-091-096-041-153.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1214334962 Q * markus Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906] 1214336809 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214337549 J * dniel ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar 1214337614 Q * dniel 1214337851 Q * fatgoose_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214338343 J * dniel ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar 1214338558 M * dniel Is the patch vs2.2.0.7 only for the kernel 2.6.22.19 version? Can I use it in other kernel version? 1214338599 M * daniel_hozac it'll be fine for 2.6.22-series kernels. 1214338715 M * dniel daniel_hozac: ahh okey! because the table in the wiki confused me 1214338887 M * dniel daniel_hozac: do you speak spanish? 1214338901 M * daniel_hozac no. 1214338908 M * daniel_hozac and this is an English channel. 1214338960 M * dniel daniel_hozac: yes I know that... but only asked 1214339032 M * dniel daniel_hozac: don't anger 1214339144 M * dniel daniel_hozac: how I can make a openSUSE 11 guest? 1214339162 M * daniel_hozac a lot of fiddling... 1214339174 M * daniel_hozac IIRC, yum should be able to install it. 1214339322 M * dniel daniel_hozac: thanks! I'll try to make this guest 1214339366 M * daniel_hozac i'd suggest you pick another distribution though. one that is supported OOTB... 1214339507 M * dniel daniel_hozac: what is the mean of OOTB? 1214339689 M * Wonka Out Of The Box 1214339708 M * dniel Wonka: thank! 1214339711 M * Wonka np 1214339769 M * dniel Wonka: I didn't understand daniel_hozac? why not openSUSE? 1214339791 M * dniel Wonka: I'm very new in vserver 1214339804 M * daniel_hozac it's not supported. you'll have to write the cleanup scripts, figure out where the repositories are, etc. 1214339810 M * Wonka dniel: because there are no vserver-related packages in/for opensuse, i'd think 1214339862 M * dniel Wonka: ah! okey! 1214339867 M * dniel daniel_hozac: okey 1214339968 M * dniel Wonka: today I show vserver to my partners (in my works). they were happy. 1214339979 M * dniel in my work 1214340000 M * dniel but my boss loves openSUSE :( 1214340122 A * dniel is going to drink a lemon tea 1214340135 M * Wonka then opensuse should find someone to support vserver stuff in opensuse? 1214340150 M * Wonka write scripts, generate packages, ... 1214340389 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-119-17.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net 1214340419 M * joern dniel: ubuntu should be easier to install i think.. and its "easy" like suse.. 1214340442 M * daniel_hozac ubuntu is also not recommended, but at least it's installable OOTB. 1214340499 M * dniel joern: now I'm using debian 1214340508 M * joern yes me too 1214340538 M * emag i was...really happy...to see a 2.6.25-2-vserver 1214340580 M * dniel joern: but I wanna make a opensuse guest. Only for my boss 1214340598 M * joern have fun :) 1214340599 M * dniel emag: where you saw this? 1214340605 M * dniel joern: ahahaha 1214340652 M * dniel emag: sorry.... where did you see this? 1214340705 M * emag dniel: debian unstable 1214340768 M * emag dniel: making an opensuse guest, when i tried it, involved using vmware or virtualbox to install opensuse into, then a long "scp" to copy things. it was painful. 1214340856 M * dniel emag: hahahaha! 1214340865 J * bfremon ~ben@lns-bzn-26-82-254-74-47.adsl.proxad.net 1214340868 M * joern ehmm.. in theory it should be simple.. i dont see the problem.. (?) 1214340882 M * dniel emag: did you made a tar.gz? 1214340894 M * dniel emag: did you make a tar.gz? 1214340900 M * emag i thought it would be, too. i gave up after a while of trying to find a simple way in favor of brute force 1214340908 M * joern just install a minimal version on a normal pc, tar it, and extract it on the host filesystem and make the config for the host.. 1214340949 M * joern ehm config for the guest i mean.. 1214340953 M * emag yeah, see, preferring debian, sometimes lowering myself to centos, dealing with opensuse as a vserver guest was by far the most painful 1214340977 M * joern i never thought about installing suse.. sry :) 1214340990 M * dniel joern: yes. I thought that 1214341057 M * emag it's also where i learned a lot of....odd things are depended upon by the base system in opensuse 10.2, like PPDs and other things a server shouldn't need 1214341149 M * joern yes, weird stuff.. 1214341278 M * dniel emag joern: thanks guys! I'll try. ahaha! 1214341314 A * dniel is going to drink a coffe :) 1214342300 J * joern__ ~chatzilla@dyndsl-091-096-040-210.ewe-ip-backbone.de 1214342302 Q * meandtheshell1 Quit: Leaving. 1214342602 Q * joern Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214342612 N * joern__ joern 1214342636 N * joern joern42 1214343183 J * meandtheshell1 ~sa@d86-33-47-83.cust.tele2.at 1214343631 Q * joern42 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1214344247 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214344472 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1214344636 Q * dniel Quit: Leaving 1214346077 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180222033.adsl.alicedsl.de 1214346192 Q * loddafnir Remote host closed the connection 1214346293 Q * kaner Server closed connection 1214346294 J * kaner ~kaner@zzz.strace.org 1214347104 Q * bfremon Quit: Leaving. 1214348756 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1214348952 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1214349913 Q * meandtheshell1 Quit: Leaving. 1214350893 J * PowerKe ~tom@d5153A1EB.access.telenet.be 1214351893 J * marv ~marv@modemcable130.216-57-74.mc.videotron.ca 1214351897 N * marv marv_ 1214351945 M * marv_ naddress --remove --nid [context] --ip [ip] i'm getting: "naddress: vc_net_remove(): Invalid argument" 1214351951 M * marv_ i am running an IPv6 kernel 1214351977 M * marv_ util-vserver: 0.30.214