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1214181645 M * dniel Bertl_oO: Hi! May I ask you something?
1214182564 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1214182569 M * Bertl dniel: sure ..
1214182693 M * dniel Bertl: I don't understand your trick explained here: http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6
1214182708 M * dniel Bertl: # Create a hard-linked copy of the vanilla sources, this will get the Linux-VServer patch applied
1214182709 M * dniel cp -la linux-2.6.22.19 linux-2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7
1214182750 M * Bertl not really a trick, basic unix hardlinks
1214182804 M * Bertl I would phrase the comment slightly different though
1214182814 M * Bertl i.e.
1214182834 M * Bertl # Create a hard-linked copy of the vanilla sources (this one will get the patch applied)
1214182850 M * Bertl or maybe
1214182870 M * Bertl # Create a hard-linked copy of the vanilla sources (to apply the patch lateron)
1214182909 M * dniel Bertl: ahhh ok!
1214182915 M * Bertl i.e. it doesn't mean that the cp -la applies the patch :)
1214182935 M * dniel Bertl: Yes I know!
1214182984 M * dniel Bertl: Can I do the same with debian kernel-source 
1214183017 M * Bertl sure, just the patch won't apply to that (at least I think so)
1214183021 M * dniel Bertl: Can I do the same with debian kernel-source? instead of vanilla kernel
1214183032 M * dniel Bertl: ahh ok! :)
1214183191 M * dniel Bertl: I will try to do the "Manual Kernel Compilation"
1214183245 M * Bertl good idea .. take some time to go through the various options, and read the help messages ... that should help you cut down the kernel config to the essentials
1214183286 M * Bertl don't worry if it doesn't boot the first time, you might simply have forgotten to add an essential driver ... 
1214183315 M * Bertl but it's definitely a good way to learn more about the kernel
1214183337 J * doener ~doener@i577B8F91.versanet.de
1214183340 M * dniel Bertl: yes!... I did my own kernel but never with vserver patch
1214183350 M * Bertl so, I'm off to bed now ... have a good one everyone ... cya!
1214183356 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1214183375 M * dniel Bertl: and when I did that... I lernt a lot!
1214183383 M * dniel Bertl_zZ: good night!
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1214209302 M * LuckyLuke 'morning
1214209801 M * phedny morning, LuckyLuke 
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1214211495 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.nonfood.de
1214211501 M * TheSeer good morning...
1214211567 M * TheSeer on a 'vserver foo enter' i get a   vtag: vc_tagopt2tag(""): No such file or directory
1214211570 M * TheSeer what is that trying to tell me?
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1214214202 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1214214207 M * Bertl morning folks!
1214214212 M * TheSeer morning Bertl :)
1214214227 M * Bertl TheSeer: looks like you are using dynamic contexts, which are deprecated for a few years now
1214214248 M * TheSeer the funny thing is - it worked before
1214214248 M * Bertl TheSeer: maybe you created the guest with 'newvserver' instead of 'vserver ... build'?
1214214272 M * TheSeer but yeah, it was on a dynamic context - for whatever reason
1214214280 M * TheSeer it was the only vserver with a dynamic one
1214214305 M * TheSeer strange thing was, the only thing not working was the "enter"
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1214214351 M * Bertl well, let me put it like this: the only thing which reported an issue was the enter :)
1214214366 M * TheSeer hehe
1214214449 M * Bertl note that even this message/bug should be fixed in recent util-vserver, IIRC
1214214645 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1214214844 M * TheSeer i re-added a context to the vserver as it was supposed to be anyway
1214214847 M * TheSeer so that fixed the problem too
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1214215750 J * bfremon ben@lns-bzn-26-82-254-74-47.adsl.proxad.net
1214215757 Q * jsambroo1 
1214216148 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl
1214216153 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1214218919 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1214218922 M * Bertl back now ...
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1214231684 M * snooze Bertl: 22:27:53 < snooze> Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12226 and the testfs.. seems ok?
1214231746 M * Bertl looks good, so chxid should work for you (given that it is a recent version)
1214231767 M * snooze vserver 0.30.215 -- manages the state of vservers
1214231787 M * snooze latest i think?
1214231804 M * Bertl so if that doesn't work, and grsec isn't causing it, then please contact daniel_hozac 
1214231820 M * snooze alright
1214231843 M * snooze im gonna test on another box with and without grsec
1214231869 M * Bertl if it is indeed grsec related, I'd check with the grsec folks how to 'allow' this
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1214232809 M * Bertl Genghis, Guest1460: last warning! two nick changes each hour are inappropriate ...
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1214239584 M * Bertl bonbons, daniel_hozac: is this an old bug, or introduced by mainline changes? also, is this fix correct? http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-inet6-fix01.diff
1214239660 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1214239700 M * bonbons Bertl: I've already seen a patch like this (don't remember for what function(s) it was)
1214239716 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1214239808 M * bonbons so I can't tell you which of the cases is true: mainline change or old bug
1214239840 M * Bertl okay
1214239928 M * Bertl so I take it, that the patch is fine .. yes?
1214239940 M * bonbons Bertl: looks fine for me
1214239981 M * bonbons unfortunately the context is a bit small (and I have no idea to which kernel version+vserver patch it should apply)
1214240012 M * Bertl well, I just wrote it for 2.6.25.8/vs2.3.0.34.12
1214240012 M * bonbons what I'm missing is what the *ifa is (or was)
1214240048 M * Bertl ifa is used for the default case (i.e. unicast)
1214240100 M * bonbons at least the context of the patch indicates "introduced distinction for IPv6 address types anycast and multicast"
1214240102 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting
1214240110 M * Bertl the semantic is the same now for uni-, multi- and any-cast
1214240131 M * Bertl (from the linux-vserver PoV that is)
1214240135 M * bonbons this would make sense
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1214240302 M * bonbons without that patch we would access uninitialized pointer when listing anycast or multicast addresses
1214240313 M * Bertl precisely
1214240344 M * Bertl (the gcc warning is what actually made me aware of that issue)
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1214240709 M * bonbons so thanks gcc :)
1214240727 M * Bertl yeah, kudos to the gcc developers :)
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1214246877 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1214246882 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1214262244 P * dowdle time to catch the bus
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1214263525 J * dniel ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar
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1214263554 M * dniel hi!
1214263573 M * Bertl_oO hey
1214263583 M * dniel Bertl_oO: hi! :)
1214263596 M * dniel Bertl_oO: where I can donwload templates?
1214263618 M * Bertl_oO wherever you like :)
1214263651 M * Bertl_oO we do not provide guest templates, because most guests can be built via network
1214263670 M * dniel Bertl_oO: ahh! ok! :)
1214263721 M * dniel Bertl_oO: yes i built a debian guest yesterday
1214263737 M * dniel Bertl_oO: but now I wont to build a centos5 guest
1214263766 M * Bertl_oO in that case, yum or rpm are your best choices
1214263812 M * dniel Bertl_oO: yes... I'm reading the documentation in the wiki
1214263856 M * dniel Bertl_oO: I'm very interest in vserver. I like this proyect
1214263863 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-147-90-170.bhm.bellsouth.net
1214263933 M * Bertl_oO well, we like it too :)
1214264008 M * dniel Bertl_oO: Tomorrow I'll make a manual compilation kernel with vserver patch. What is the difference beetwen the patch 2.2 and "2.2 + grsecurity"?
1214264058 M * Bertl_oO vs2.2.x is the 'mainline' patch, while vs+grsec is a combination of Linux-VServer and grsec (maintained by harry)
1214264238 M * dniel Bertl_oO: for what is grsec used for?
1214264242 M * Supaplex *hiccup*
1214264311 M * dniel Bertl_oO: glups! my english is not very good :(
1214264365 M * Bertl_oO dniel: grsec is a 'security enhancement' like selinux ... the idea of the Linux-VServer + grsec combo is to make it even more secure ... IMHO most of the grsec security is more a problem with Linux-VServer than a help .. but if you know how to handle grsec, it's probably an improvement after all
1214264521 M * dniel Bertl_oO: ahh.... For this moment I'll try only with 2.2
1214265422 M * dniel Bertl_oO: I'm going to download the linux-sources with apt-get. Then I'm going to apply the vserver stable patch and finaly I'm going to build a kernel in Debian way, generating a .deb. May I documentate it in http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian, if it works properly?
1214265501 M * Bertl_oO why not? but you _are_ aware that recent kernel packages are available for debian (as .debs)
1214265515 M * Bertl_oO (in backports)
1214265566 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1214265574 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ