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1214093699 J * dniel ~ary@host54.190-31-207.telecom.net.ar
1214093729 M * dniel Bertl_oO: I Bertl. I'm from Argentina. I'm studying Computer Engineering in Cordoba, Argentina. I'm thinking to do a final work about an implementation of linux-vserver
1214093763 M * dniel Bertl_oO: I was reading the wiki.
1214093858 M * dniel Bertl_oO: today I test vserver on Debian Etch. It works very good!
1214093925 M * daniel_hozac _oO == operation octopus -> he's "otherly occupied".
1214093991 M * dniel daniel_hozac: ahh okey! I didn't know that!
1214093998 M * dniel daniel_hozac: thaks!
1214094083 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1214094092 M * Bertl dniel: hey! how's going?
1214094116 M * dniel Bertl: fine!
1214094151 M * Bertl so what do you have in mind with your 'final'?
1214094230 M * dniel Bertl: sorry... my english is bad. I'm from Argentina. Ahaha! well I don't know yet... but I readed about this proyect and it's cool
1214094240 M * dniel Bertl: do you have any idea?
1214094269 M * Bertl what are the requirements?
1214094270 M * dniel Bertl: I work in NOC (network operation center) in the University of Cordoba
1214094328 M * dniel Bertl: security. We have a lot of servers, but our security is bad
1214094359 M * Bertl hmm, well, actually I meant for your 'final' .. what do 'they' expect from you?
1214094489 M * dniel Bertl: they told me that I can do an implementation as a final work with something like vserver
1214094526 M * Bertl so, you want to work on some area of Linux-VServer, i.e. improve something or so?
1214094684 M * dniel Bertl: yes... I have this idea but today was my first day with vserver. I am not an expert in vserver.
1214094729 M * Bertl just trying to get an idea what you want and/or supposed to do :)
1214094871 M * dniel Bertl: yes.... you have reason. For the moment I want to familiarize with vserver.
1214094941 M * Bertl okay, you said you started with debian ... I would suggest you familiarize yourself with the basics there (keep away from newvserver though) and then build your own kernel (and probably tools) to explore the real power of Linux-VServer ...
1214095034 M * dniel Bertl: Okey! I will do that! :)
1214095080 M * Bertl feel free to hang around and ask questions ... it might take some while till they get answered, but you should get your answer sooner or later
1214095180 M * dniel Bertl: thanks a lot!
1214095189 M * dniel my idea was implemet a secure linux-vserver and then migrate our servers into vserver. But I don't know if it will become in a final work
1214095231 M * dniel In the university, we have a mail servers, webserver, dns servers (bind) and more
1214095261 M * Bertl well, not sure that will suffice for a 'final work' (so better check with your folks)
1214095309 M * Bertl i.e. that's not really complicated ... basically a 1-3 day efford
1214095326 M * Bertl (and that's including the familiarization phase :)
1214095562 M * dniel Bertl: yes! I have just realised... but I'll try to do something and I'll try to collaborate with the proyect!
1214095679 M * dniel Bertl: because after to test vserver, I stayed happy
1214095726 M * Bertl good to know that you like it!
1214095739 M * dniel :)
1214095780 M * dniel Bertl: what is the different between openvz and vserver?
1214095842 M * Bertl the basic concept (OS level virtualization) is the same, but while OVZ focuses on completeness, we focus on making it as light and unintrusive (minimal) as possible
1214095864 M * Bertl means, we avoid 'virtualization' if possible and use 'isolation'
1214095913 M * Bertl it might also be worth mentioning, that we are not 'company controlled' in our development :)
1214096081 M * dniel Bertl: ahh okey! Yes when I tested linux-vserver I saw that it ran very light!
1214096127 M * dniel Bertl: yes... I like that you are not a 'company controlled
1214096206 M * dniel Bertl: this was good reason for that I choise vserver :)
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1214096442 M * dniel Bertl: ok! I'll continue with Vserver!
1214096454 M * dniel Bertl: thanks a lot for your help!
1214096467 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1214096543 M * dniel Bertl: you and your team make a good software :) congratulations
1214096567 M * dniel Bertl: nice to chat with you!
1214096584 M * Bertl thanks, and the pleasure is mine
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1214100313 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1214100319 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1214100365 M * dniel Bertl_zZ: good bye!
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1214134298 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1214134325 M * hijacker hey fellows
1214134337 M * hijacker are there any patches for the 2.6.26 kernel tree already ?
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1214135502 M * daniel_hozac which isn't released? no.
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1214137019 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1214137025 M * Bertl morning folks!
1214137037 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1214137076 M * hijacker morning
1214137129 M * hijacker daniel_hozac, thanks, i'll wait then
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1214142705 M * snooze hi, i was trying to tag one of my vserver directories with the vserver's xid, by doing
1214142712 M * snooze chxid -c 40105 -R /vservers/guest
1214142725 M * snooze but i get Invalid argument for all files
1214142765 M * Bertl maybe your filesystem is not mounted with the 'tag' flag, or maybe your filesystem doesn't support tagging at all?
1214142776 M * Bertl check with /proc/mounts
1214142781 M * snooze (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noacl,data=writeback,tag)
1214142805 M * Bertl okay, fs is ext3?
1214142807 M * snooze yep
1214142855 M * Bertl could you run testme.sh and upload the output to paste.linux-vserver.org?
1214142879 M * snooze okay, where do i find that one?
1214142899 M * snooze util-vserver package?
1214142906 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/
1214143023 M * snooze http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12224
1214143185 M * Bertl looks good so far, let's try with testfs.sh too
1214143198 M * Bertl you need a scratch device for that one
1214143215 M * Bertl e.g. setup a loopback for a file or create an empty lvm volume
1214143224 M * Bertl you run it like this:
1214143282 M * Bertl testfs.sh -txy -D /dev/scratch -F ext3 -M /test
1214143306 M * Bertl where /dev/scratch is the device (which will be formatted!) and /test a mount point
1214143349 M * Bertl btw, what does 'gv' (as in 2.6.22.19-gv) mean?
1214143375 M * snooze ah well thats grsec
1214143377 M * snooze +vserver
1214143391 M * Bertl so it could as well be a misconfigured grsec then :)
1214143418 M * snooze i suppose
1214143722 M * Bertl well, the testfs should give some clues
1214143957 M * snooze yeah
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1214143962 M * snooze i have to get back to you with that tho
1214143970 M * Bertl np
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1214144226 M * Bertl Genghis: please fix your client asap!
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1214152436 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1214152440 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1214164625 M * dniel I installed vserver on debian etch. Where is the guests networks configurations? i.e: IP address and netmask?
1214164671 M * dniel etc/network/interfaces is empty
1214164685 M * dniel (in the guest)
1214164925 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de
1214165112 M * dniel cohan: can you help me?
1214165473 J * ary ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar
1214165604 M * snooze dniel: http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html check out /etc/vservers/<vserver-name>/interfaces
1214165632 M * snooze dniel: mask, dev and ip is all that's required though, i believe
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1214166055 M * dniel snooze: thanks! yes! :)
1214166142 M * dniel snooze: perfect!
1214166183 M * snooze :)
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1214166473 M * snooze Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12226 and the testfs.. seems ok?
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1214171313 M * cohan hm, beside util-vserver which sets barrier flags on startup, is there any concept to set the barrier correctly upon vserver startup?
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1214171579 M * cohan (for clarification: util-vserver does it on system startup, but for newly created or migrated vservers it has to be done manually, if their vdirs do not all reside in the same parent directory)
1214173634 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build sets it with recent util-vservers.
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1214173802 J * dniel ~ary@host213.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar
1214173882 M * cohan daniel_hozac: build is not executed when i move vservers between hosts
1214173905 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180196208.adsl.alicedsl.de
1214173921 M * daniel_hozac shared storage?
1214173983 M * daniel_hozac (in which case you should already have the attributes...)
1214174097 M * cohan no, not always shared storage. some of the vservers are copied around with rsync, or regenerated/created with custom scripts (not using build)
1214174114 M * daniel_hozac so, set the barrier in your scripts.
1214174133 M * cohan yes, i do, i just don't trust that i get every script etc.
1214174172 M * daniel_hozac i suppose you could use an initialize script that handles it for you.
1214174178 M * cohan well, it will become part of a wrapper, i guess, since i did not find functionality to log vserver-related activity either
1214174392 M * cohan initialize scripts... those in scripts/ per vserver?
1214174411 M * daniel_hozac in .defaults.
1214174569 M * cohan when will these scripts be executed? *don't find the wiki page about this*
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1214174610 M * daniel_hozac "The scriptlet which will be executed before the root filesystem is mounted and the configuration has been loaded. Before executing the script, the configuration directory will be made the working directory. "
1214174610 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180196208.adsl.alicedsl.de
1214174765 M * cohan could it be that this only applies to vservers not running their own init?
1214174774 M * cohan init-style non-plain?
1214174784 M * daniel_hozac no.
1214174813 M * daniel_hozac that script runs before util-vserver even knows the init style...
1214174962 M * cohan i'll give it a try. if these are executed under any cicrumstances, whenever vserver <vservername> start/stop is executed, that is what I am looking for 
1214175826 M * daniel_hozac uh, no. just on vserver ... start.
1214175854 M * daniel_hozac for stop you want {pre{,pre},post{,post}}-stop.
1214176030 M * daniel_hozac actually, make that {pre,post{,post}}-stop.
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1214176408 M * dniel daniel_hozac: how I can limit the space in my virtual servers? with quota?
1214177361 M * dniel I found that! :) http://linux-vserver.org/Disk_Limits_and_Quota
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