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1213842803 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya!
1213842808 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1213858989 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
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1213859692 N * Genghis Guest724
1213861024 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1213861189 J * blathijs ~matthijs@katherina.student.ipv6.utwente.nl
1213861231 M * blathijs Is there any particular reason that all of the "how to create a vserver guest" pages on the wiki fail to mention that you need to assign a context id to a newly created vserver?
1213861251 J * bfremon ben@lns-bzn-29-82-248-229-3.adsl.proxad.net
1213862003 M * LuckyLuke blathijs: probably because you don't have to?
1213862018 M * LuckyLuke I'me new to the vserver thing but never assigned context ids to my guests
1213862438 M * blathijs LuckyLuke: Which version are you using?
1213862456 M * blathijs I read a faq somewhere that dynamic context id's were disabled as of 2.2 or something
1213862955 M * LuckyLuke I'm on the stable stuff
1213862966 M * LuckyLuke 2.2.0.7 with utils 0.30.215
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1213863382 N * Genghis Guest730
1213863620 J * dna ~dna@16-239-dsl.kielnet.net
1213863971 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-132.ethz.ch
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1213864604 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
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1213865538 J * bfremon ben@lns-bzn-29-82-248-229-3.adsl.proxad.net
1213866102 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
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1213867072 N * Genghis Guest736
1213867393 M * blathijs LuckyLuke: Interesting, I'm using 2.2.0.7 as well
1213867403 M * blathijs LuckyLuke: How do you build your vservers?
1213867409 M * blathijs LuckyLuke: Just vserver build?
1213869029 M * blathijs Hmm, I'm seeing very slow network inside my vserver guest
1213869041 M * blathijs Is there some common config error that can cause that?
1213869085 M * blathijs DNS lookups take aroudn 5 seconds, and ping only sends one packet each 5 seconds or so (but ping response time is the normal few ms)
1213869411 J * bfremon1 ben@lns-bzn-57-82-249-11-231.adsl.proxad.net
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1213870141 J * pflanze ~chris__@77-56-76-190.dclient.hispeed.ch
1213870541 M * daniel_hozac blathijs: recent utils will generate a static context id for you.
1213870697 M * blathijs recent being later than .30.212 I guess? (which ships in Debian Etch)
1213870730 N * Guest736 Genghis
1213870737 M * daniel_hozac NEWS says it was added in 0.30.213.
1213870741 Q * pflanze Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1213870748 M * daniel_hozac you really do want to use backports.org for etch...
1213870753 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer
1213870761 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-160-167-96.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1213870762 N * Genghis Guest740
1213871062 M * blathijs hm, it seems that dynamic context id's work in 215 as well? Or is NEWS referring to some other concept of dynamic contexts?
1213871196 M * blathijs Let's add backports.org then (didn't get around to that yet). It's probably a good idea to use current userspace when using a current kernel patch :-)
1213871295 Q * infowolfe Quit: Thanks for all the fish!
1213871609 M * blathijs daniel_hozac: Any thoughts on my slow network issue? Upgrading util-vserver didn't help :-)
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1213871851 A * blathijs is off for lunch, bbl
1213871878 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1213871912 J * bfremon ben@lns-bzn-57-82-249-11-231.adsl.proxad.net
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1213872044 J * opuk ~kupo@2001:16d8:ffbd:100::10
1213872990 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1213874421 N * Guest740 Genghis
1213874452 N * Genghis Guest747
1213874511 J * AndrewLe1 ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1213874512 Q * AndrewLee Write error: connection closed
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1213875308 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1213875396 M * renihs hmm our vserver host died and i used my livecd to take it up on another host (which worked fine)....today the temporary host died too and i tried to take it up on another host....same steps again
1213875412 M * daniel_hozac blathijs: dynamic contexts still work, but they're no longer the default.
1213875413 M * renihs but now i get errors like /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 1246: /bin/umount: No such file or directory
1213875427 M * renihs is there *ANY* config somewhere except in /etc/vservers?
1213875433 M * renihs which i might have forgotten to copy? 
1213875439 M * daniel_hozac no.
1213875443 M * renihs hmmm
1213875450 M * renihs its even the same hardware....
1213875480 M * renihs this is so odd....hmmm
1213875488 M * daniel_hozac what is /bin/umount?
1213875626 M * renihs how do you mean?
1213875652 M * renihs binary but i guess you didnt mean that :p
1213875654 M * daniel_hozac is it a regular executable file?
1213875666 M * renihs file /vservers/dns/bin/umount
1213875672 M * daniel_hozac not in the guest, on the host.
1213875686 M * renihs /bin/umount: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
1213875687 M * renihs yar
1213875692 M * renihs executable
1213875701 M * daniel_hozac and all the libraries it needs are on /, too?
1213875705 M * renihs yap
1213875710 M * renihs this is the livecd i used yesterday
1213875723 M * renihs worked just fine...just the hardware died -> put into other box 
1213875776 M * renihs and i am nearly absolutely certain that i did completely the same steps
1213875798 M * renihs (boot thingie, mount raid, mount lvm, cp /etc/vservers from backup) -> start vserver
1213875817 M * renihs i do have the interfaces from the vservers i tried to start (eth0:dns) etc
1213875823 M * renihs but nothing else
1213875858 M * daniel_hozac well, i'd be wary of using a live-CD... they tend to do funky stuff wrt. mounts.
1213875868 M * renihs its my own livecd, using it since years
1213875869 M * daniel_hozac so you might want to disable the namespace cleanup.
1213875872 M * renihs yar
1213875876 M * renihs thats what i want
1213875879 M * renihs EXACTLY :)
1213875892 M * renihs how again was that hmmm file called?
1213875895 M * renihs nonamespace?
1213875907 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers/.defaults/nonamespace-cleanup
1213875924 M * renihs yesssss
1213875925 M * renihs :p
1213875931 M * renihs worked 
1213875937 M * renihs i knew there was something i keep forgetting
1213875945 M * renihs stupid brain
1213875956 M * renihs thanks alot daniel_hozac ....once again
1213875967 M * renihs though i did not do that last time (nonamespace cleanup)
1213875970 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome!
1213876023 A * renihs creates entry in wiki for nonamespace
1213876036 M * renihs maybe the brainbackup will help me remember next time...
1213876042 M * renihs always years inbetween :)
1213876060 M * renihs daniel_hozac, if you ever get to vienna give me a knock :)
1213876072 M * renihs you get a huge crate of beer or whatever you prever :)
1213876078 M * daniel_hozac lol
1213876199 M * renihs also, if you happen to have a need for ALOT cpu power....i could offer you a day or like on a 16 cores 3.2 ghz 64gb ram box thingie ....once it arrives....wont be for long though :p
1213876364 M * renihs everything up again 
1213876371 M * renihs i tell you, a vserver livecd can be really usefull :)
1213877698 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1213878008 M * blathijs daniel_hozac: Is there any advantage of using static constatns?
1213878015 M * blathijs uh, contexts I mean
1213878111 N * Guest747 Genghis
1213878143 N * Genghis Guest758
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1213879037 M * daniel_hozac blathijs: other than the fact that they're required with recent kernels?
1213879066 M * daniel_hozac yes, dynamic context ids don't work with filesystem tagging, network contexts, etc.
1213879277 M * blathijs ah, right
1213879515 M * LuckyLuke blathijs: I build my servers with my own stage4 (gentoo linux) and vserver build blahblah. the same commands that are in the doc for vserver on gentoo.
1213879547 M * blathijs LuckyLuke: Yeah, daniel_hozac pointed out that my util-vserver tools were out of date, so that was probably the difference :-)
1213879623 M * LuckyLuke yeah
1213879930 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1213879943 M * renihs LuckyLuke, hmm vserver-utils in portage are outdated or what did you mean?
1213879951 M * renihs my zod is gentoo too :)
1213880099 M * LuckyLuke vserver-utils are current on gentoo but not working on gentoo/hppa and there aren't prebuilt stages for gentoo/hppa on vserver. I worked on those things.
1213880139 M * LuckyLuke you can find the whole "vserver on hppa effort" at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221951 and the util-vserver patches at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228135
1213880141 M * renihs ah ok hmm hppa :)
1213880154 M * renihs oh nice, will take a look there
1213880175 M * LuckyLuke Hostname: J6750 - OS: Linux 2.6.22.19-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.7-safe/parisc64 - Distro: Gentoo 1.12.11.1 - CPU: Duet W2 PA8700 (PCX-W2) (875.00 MHz) - Processes: 6 - Uptime: 21h 41m - Users: 1 - Load Average: 1.57 - Memory Usage: 231.52MB/8046.81MB (2.88%)
1213880180 M * LuckyLuke yeah, hppa :)
1213880186 M * renihs cool
1213880195 M * renihs i only have a gentoo on sparc
1213880200 M * renihs not vserver kernel though :p
1213880206 M * renihs i mean, on non x86
1213880215 M * LuckyLuke yup
1213880272 M * renihs grisu: Netra t1 (UltraSPARC-IIi 360MHz)
1213880274 M * renihs also cute :)
1213880313 M * renihs running since many many years, not killable :)
1213880319 M * LuckyLuke yup. I am an hppa aficionado and also find that you can get faster hw for less money than other more or less esotic architectures
1213880326 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1213880331 M * Bertl morning folks!
1213880338 M * renihs morning Bertl! :)
1213880385 M * LuckyLuke yo :)
1213881628 M * blathijs daniel_hozac: My network slowness was due to wrong DNS servers
1213881645 M * blathijs daniel_hozac: Turns out that ping does a reverse DNS lookup on every packet when you supply it with a hostname
1213881673 M * LuckyLuke yep, unless you use -n
1213881764 M * blathijs Didn't know that, so I thought my problem was not DNS related :-)
1213881801 N * Guest758 Genghis
1213881813 M * Bertl blathijs: DNS is _always_ fun :)
1213881832 N * Genghis Guest766
1213882026 M * LuckyLuke thank dns so we don't have to remember stuff like 209.62.26.130
1213882219 M * daniel_hozac or 2001:16d8:ff15:101:215:c5ff:fe78:fa72 :-)
1213882272 M * LuckyLuke it's been a long time since my last v6 tunnel :)
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1213887283 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1213898515 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1213900386 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
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1213903584 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-147-84.dclient.hispeed.ch
1213903998 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl
1213904002 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1213908949 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-113-120.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
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1213912031 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
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1213915252 N * Genghis Guest854
1213916539 J * kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1213916541 M * kwowt hi
1213916557 M * Bertl_oO hey kwowt! how's going?
1213916572 M * kwowt hey Bertl_oO
1213916585 M * kwowt eh, ok i guess
1213916626 M * Bertl_oO good to hear ...
1213916661 M * kwowt um
1213916669 M * kwowt i'm using gentoo-vserver right
1213916702 M * kwowt can i use a different distribution of gentoo for the client server?
1213916708 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1213916745 M * daniel_hozac as long as it knows how to boot inside of a guest.
1213916753 M * kwowt like..hosting debian virtual environments
1213916763 M * kwowt eh
1213916767 M * kwowt different distribution
1213916769 M * kwowt of linux
1213916771 M * kwowt sry:)
1213916773 M * daniel_hozac well, yeah.
1213916777 M * daniel_hozac that's kind of the point.
1213916785 M * kwowt lol
1213916789 M * kwowt nice:p
1213916811 M * kwowt and where would i find any more info about that?
1213916816 M * kwowt (gonna google now, but anyway)
1213916821 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems
1213916991 M * kwowt where to find templates (stages)?
1213917020 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~hollow/stages/
1213917025 M * kwowt danke:)
1213917051 M * kwowt um no
1213917053 M * kwowt but wait
1213917084 M * Bertl_oO stages are for gentoo guests
1213917098 M * Bertl_oO other distros (guest) use different build methods
1213917109 M * kwowt ok, thats what i wanted to know :P
1213917126 M * Bertl_oO (e.g. debootstrap for debian/ubuntu, rpm/yum for redhat/fedora/centos)
1213917145 M * Bertl_oO but you could as well package them as tars and use those as templates
1213917195 M * daniel_hozac (and end up with old packages in your guest)
1213917413 M * Bertl_oO yes, as we know from debian, old == stable :)
1213917447 M * Bertl_oO anyway, I'm off to bed now ... enjoy!
1213917453 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1213917453 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1213917752 M * kwowt thanks, night
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