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1212730676 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
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1212735179 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1212738085 J * dna ~dna@64-196-dsl.kielnet.net
1212738882 M * hijacker morning fellows
1212740007 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1212743134 J * nkukard ~nkukard@dsl-146-5-165.telkomadsl.co.za
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1212748262 J * Mojo1978 ~Mojo1978@ip-78-94-99-83.hsi.ish.de
1212749238 J * rgl ~rgl@bl8-142-197.dsl.telepac.pt
1212749245 M * rgl hellos
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1212754235 J * pflanze ~chris__@77-56-81-231.dclient.hispeed.ch
1212755728 M * micah i'm having a strange networking problem on one guest
1212755752 M * micah the guest can ping all hosts in 10.0.1.0/16 except for 10.0.1.50
1212755757 M * micah the host itself can ping that ip
1212755768 M * micah and all my other hosts can ping that ip
1212755775 M * micah there are no firewalls involved
1212755846 M * daniel_hozac on the host, does ping -I <guest IP> 10.0.1.50 work?
1212755878 M * micah the guest has two IPs, but I'll try both
1212755899 M * daniel_hozac is either of them in 10.0.0.0/16?
1212755911 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B714.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1212755998 M * micah daniel_hozac: the second ip, which I expect to work, does ping with ping -I
1212756015 M * micah (10.0.2.2/16)
1212756022 M * daniel_hozac but the first IP does not?
1212756031 M * daniel_hozac what kernel are you using?
1212756033 M * micah no, but the first ip is not within 10.0.0.0/16
1212756051 M * micah this is the etch 2.6.18 kernel
1212756089 M * daniel_hozac i'd assume that doesn't have the proper source address selection code.
1212756150 M * micah it was working, but I guess the source selection depends on how the networking gets laid out on boot maybe
1212756973 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
1212756973 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1212759234 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1212759417 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1212759423 M * Bertl morning folks!
1212759471 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1212759492 M * daniel_hozac how are you?
1212759521 M * Bertl fine .. I think ... to early to tell :)
1212759531 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1212759543 M * Bertl and you?
1212759593 M * daniel_hozac it's a bit too hot for my taste, but otherwise i'm good.
1212759618 M * Bertl how hot is too hot for your taste? (careful, trick question :)
1212759715 M * daniel_hozac anything above 25C indoors is too much, IMHO. (it's 29C at the moment)
1212760491 M * Bertl okay, have to get some groceries ... bbl
1212760496 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1212765057 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1212765059 J * _eSa|_ ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
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1212765283 J * eSa| ~kvirc@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1212765347 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1212765358 M * Bertl back now ...
1212766731 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer
1212767708 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
1212768957 M * nox sry but i still have problems with rndc, the hosts still sees connects to 127.0.01 and blocks them obviosly allowing the connect also doesn?t work
1212769019 M * Bertl the _host_ sees them?
1212769027 A * nox buys the missing 2 dots :)
1212769031 M * nox yes
1212769041 M * Bertl could it be that you have bind running on the host too?
1212769056 M * nox no
1212769056 M * Bertl (or at least something on the rndc port)
1212769079 M * nox neither
1212769081 M * Bertl well, who on the host is seeing the connects then?
1212769099 M * nox the iptables logging rule
1212769116 M * nox Jun  6 18:11:26 log kernel: !bind9_OUT_DROP!IN= OUT=lo SRC=88.198.151.46 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=18591 DF PROTO=TCP SPT
1212769131 M * daniel_hozac you're using 2.3?
1212769145 M * nox yes
1212769156 M * nox rest of the line =58312 DPT=953 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
1212769201 M * Bertl if you allow that (from the iptables side) what happens?
1212769218 M * Bertl i.e. does the rndc connect work for you?
1212769220 M * nox rndc just sits and waits for timeout
1212769237 M * nox tried that yesterday
1212769248 M * Bertl okay, time to enable vserver debugging
1212769444 M * nox ok will make a new kernel with VSERVER_DEBUG tonite or at least over the weekend
1212769468 M * Bertl k, let me know when you're ready to test ...
1212769482 M * nox will do
1212769575 M * nox forgot to say it is 2.6.25.1-vs2.3.0.34.9
1212769675 M * Bertl well, in this case, definitely update to 34.11 and 25.4
1212769744 M * nox on the way :)
1212770011 M * nox 64 Per-CPU History Size is enough? or better more?
1212770037 M * Bertl disable it completely, hmm, shouldn't even be selectable now
1212770091 M * Bertl ah, no sorry, my bad, yes 64 is fine
1212770146 M * nox when i enabled debug, history tracing came up, selecting that showed die hist size.
1212770150 M * nox k
1212770167 M * Bertl I confused it with the scheduler debugging
1212770182 J * virtuozzo ~rpavlyuk@195.160.234.2
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1212770282 M * virtuozzo Hi guys! Is multicast well supported by vserver?
1212770467 M * Bertl define well supported ... Linux-VServer does not change the multicast behaviour
1212770492 M * virtuozzo hm... I do have a strange problem
1212770492 M * Bertl you can assign multicast IPs to guests like 'normal' ones
1212770505 M * virtuozzo I'm running two vservers on one host
1212770521 M * Bertl okay
1212770523 M * virtuozzo ... they are using the same multicast IP
1212770534 M * Bertl have both been assigned the IP?
1212770542 M * virtuozzo YEP, THEY DOservices on 
1212770566 M * Bertl okay, and the problem is?
1212770569 M * virtuozzo sorry, typo
1212770569 M * virtuozzo should be just "yep, they do"
1212770575 M * virtuozzo so,..
1212770621 M * virtuozzo first server, prod-c3-prr2 starts with no problems and all services hosted there, like apache httpd and tomcat start well
1212770657 M * virtuozzo when I'm going to start the second one, I'm getting some thing like "Unable to bind to port 80: socketse"
1212770679 M * virtuozzo means "socket in use"
1212770690 M * Bertl so you are using the multicast ip for port 80?
1212770720 M * virtuozzo I've been following http://linux-vserver.org/Multicast
1212770727 M * virtuozzo actually, no
1212770749 M * virtuozzo they use difrrent ports in range 48000 - 49000
1212770775 M * virtuozzo ..but for some reason HTTPD and Tomcat try to bind to multicast address as well
1212770776 M * Bertl so you assigned a second ip (besides the multicast) to the guest, yes?
1212770802 M * Bertl (to each guest, to be precise)
1212770816 M * virtuozzo yes, I did
1212770824 M * virtuozzo ... the same for both
1212770835 M * virtuozzo it is 228.0.1.3 in my case
1212770835 M * Bertl well, there you are
1212770848 M * Bertl if you have the same ip, apache will clash
1212770865 M * virtuozzo yes, I know that, BUT ...
1212770865 M * Bertl i.e. apache will only be able to run inside one of the two guests
1212770893 M * virtuozzo I was sure apache won't try to bind to the IP which belongs to multicast range (class D)
1212770921 M * virtuozzo yes, Bertl, that's how apache's is dealing in my case
1212770923 M * Bertl well, it will bind to 0.0.0.0, unless you specifically tell it to bind to something else
1212770969 M * virtuozzo hmmm, I've been trying to avoind touching apache's default configs but it looks like I would have to
1212770974 M * Bertl try to assign e.g. 228.0.1.2 to one guest
1212770983 M * Bertl and 228.0.1.3 to the other one
1212771044 M * virtuozzo that will cause Tomcat's session broadcasting (that's what I'm actually setting up) to work incorrectly
1212771045 M * Bertl or the other way round: I don't know what you expect to happen, if you use the same IP for both guests (to bind apache onto)
1212771079 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1212771103 M * virtuozzo the idea of using the same IP is that Tomcat's are "broadcasting" messages about their session to the group which 228.0.1.3 actually is
1212771146 M * Bertl okay, but you have an IP for each guest outside class D, yes?
1212771160 M * virtuozzo yes, I do
1212771173 M * virtuozzo and the solution is to modile httpd.conf
1212771182 M * Bertl one for each, or a single for both?
1212771182 M * virtuozzo modile=modify
1212771203 M * virtuozzo no, each guest has its own 192.168.0.0/16 ip
1212771224 M * Bertl okay, and which one is the first assigned ip? the 192.x or the class D?
1212771238 M * Bertl and what kernel/patch do you use?
1212771242 M * daniel_hozac hmm, sending messages to multicast should work without assigning the address, IMHO.
1212771255 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yes, but not receiving, or?
1212771264 M * daniel_hozac right.
1212771271 M * virtuozzo Daniel, I need to receive them as well
1212771286 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I suspect that we want to exclude class D in collision checks
1212771304 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i think so too.
1212771320 M * Bertl virtuozzo: wanna help/test some things?
1212771321 M * virtuozzo first assigned IP is 192.x (eth0), then 228.x (with nodev)
1212771343 M * virtuozzo Bertl: why not ;)
1212771370 M * Bertl okay, kernel version and patches you are currently using?
1212771372 Q * bfremon Read error: Connection reset by peer
1212771396 M * virtuozzo uname -a:
1212771396 M * virtuozzo Linux prod-c3-prr2 2.6.22.19-vs2.3.0.34.1 #1 SMP Mon Mar 17 02:33:42 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1212771441 M * virtuozzo guest: CentOS 5.1
1212771441 M * virtuozzo host: CentOS 5.1 
1212771558 M * Bertl good, you have the kernel build tree (source) at hand?
1212771569 M * virtuozzo no, not a the moment
1212771579 M * virtuozzo SRPM should be enough?
1212771583 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1212771583 M * Bertl okay, get one, build the kernel yourself and test it
1212771597 M * virtuozzo okay, doing
1212771720 M * Bertl hmm ... wait, I see a potential problem there
1212771739 M * virtuozzo so?...
1212771778 M * Bertl I don't think it would be too good to exclude multicast ips from collision checks .. because then we might end up with more than one socket on the same IP
1212771810 M * Bertl the problem here is at a different layer, i.e. you actually do not want apache to bind to the multicast IP
1212771825 M * virtuozzo yep, right
1212771834 M * Bertl so, we need to get a better semantic for multicast here first
1212771860 M * Bertl the question is, is 0.0.0.0 supposed to bind multicast ips too?
1212771869 M * Bertl (I don't think so, no?)
1212771874 M * virtuozzo actually, it should be like:
1212771874 M * virtuozzo bind to 0.0.0.0 means bind to all IPs except class D
1212771901 M * Bertl yes, that is my understanding too, can you confirm that for a 'normal' linux machine?
1212771904 M * virtuozzo at present time, 0.0.0.0 includes multicasts as well
1212771921 M * virtuozzo hmm, let me check that
1212772001 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: in this case, we could define a new flag/attribute for IPs (assigned to guests) which basically classifies them as 'not contained in ADDR_ANY) for now, auto configured by a class D check, thoughts?
1212772304 M * daniel_hozac sounds good.
1212772335 M * virtuozzo guys, I have to leave - will let you know about the test result
1212772335 M * virtuozzo PS: my mail roman.pavlyuk[at]gmail.com
1212772340 M * virtuozzo thanks for help
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1212773489 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
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1212774519 M * fatgoose hi
1212774523 N * fatgoose samtc
1212774523 M * Bertl hey
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1212775097 J * SpComb^_ terom@zapotek.paivola.fi
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1212775356 J * larsivi ~larsivi@169.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
1212776407 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1212776578 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1212776604 M * samtc hey
1212776611 M * samtc is the swig config still available?
1212776617 M * samtc for libvserver ?
1212776626 M * daniel_hozac "still"?
1212776673 M * daniel_hozac that implies there once was one in existence.
1212776693 M * samtc http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-09/LOG_2005-09-06.txt
1212776781 M * daniel_hozac that's a long time ago. i believe Hollow has rewritten libvserver from scratch since.
1212777298 J * Linus ~Nuhx@bl7-139-83.dsl.telepac.pt
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1212778123 M * Bertl nap attack .. bbl
1212778128 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1212780329 M * nox Bertl_zZ: with 2.3.0.34.11 it works now ootb ... didn't change anything but the debug option in the kernel
1212783615 Q * samtc Quit: samtc
1212783920 M * daniel_hozac that's because the bug is fixed :)
1212783950 M * daniel_hozac (the kernel rewrote 1.0.0.127, not 127.0.0.1)
1212784533 N * SpComb^_ SpComb
1212784647 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1212786407 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1212786423 M * Bertl nox: see, it's always good to use the latest kernel/patches :)
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1212791478 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1212792046 M * nox daniel_hozac: Bertl thx again for your great work
1212792067 M * daniel_hozac actually, the credit for that one goes to ard.
1212792088 M * nox so i add ard to the "huglist" :)
1212792089 M * Bertl yep, he provided the patch
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1212792382 M * sid3windr lol, huglist :)
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